All educated honest neutral [not brainwashed] and unbiased Muslims and non-Muslims MUST MUST MUST search following GREAT video in Google and watch. Will shake ground under ur feet if u are a psycho-Fanatic:
U are a big liar. Ghamidi left Pak bcaz in Pak vast majority is brainless blindly following Psycho-Fanatic Mushrik Hadithers like u who follow crap that Persian Imams [Disguised Zoroastrians] forged 250-400 years after Prophet in their fake hadith books and do not follow Book of Allah. Pak is in no way PRACTICALLY a Muslim country but a Coutry where majority is brainaless wolds' most dangerous Mad-Psycho-Fanatics animals live
@Factszz If you think you can make your own version of islam then go ahead but PLEASE dont call it islam. Islam means primarliy following the prophet muhammad (s.a.w.) and that is a command of Allah in the Holy Quran. And, following the prophet OBVIOUSLY implies following the sunnah. Stop deviating people from the path of Allah!
If u beleive in Quran then Listen; It was ONLY duty of all Prophets to Establish laws of Books of Allah tht Allah sent upun them [read verse 2:213 & 5:44] & It was not their duty to invent their own suna+hadith NOR EVER any prophet invented them but By Defeated Nation's Persian Imams [research 100% prove they wr Non-Muslims] 250-400 years aft the death of Prophet. Allah says his BOOK is Complete & Detailed. So u do not need to follow forged crap frm Persian's Books.
"During Hazrat Omar's caliphate the ahadith were in abundance. He made sure by putting the people under oath that whatever hadith the people had in their possession ought to be brought before him. As ordered, the public submitted whatever they possessed. He then ordered to make a public bonfire of those hadiths."
Thirty yrs after the death of Prophet Chief Scribe for Quranic Wahi Zayd visited the palace of Caliph Amir Moaavia. One day he told a very good story about Prophet. Caliph liked the story very much and called a person to write down that story But Zayed said, NO, Prophet forbade us to write any of his hadith EXCEPT Quran.
Do u believe in what Allah says? Quranic Verse 5:44 declares those persons "KAAFIRS" who make sharia Laws from other Books than Noble Quran. [So no any Sharia law is valid but from Quran]
Abu Bakar said:
"If anyone inquires, you can always say tht we have the Holy Quran between us. Whatsoever it has been granted must be made permissible & whatsoever has been prohibited must be relinquished."
To follow Prophet in Person is possible when he was alive. When he was alive. he was telling people to Follow Book of Allah. How u can follow Prophet after his death? There is only one way to following him which is to follow what he said us to follow: What he told us to follow? In Hadith Book of Muslim, he Said not one but FIVE times, [we can show u] "If u will hold fast after me one thing, u will never go Astray that is BOOK OF ALLAH. [hadith never existed when he said so]
@FictionsBlaster Your last statement makes it clear to me that you clearly have no knowledge of what you are speaking about. Do you actually know what hadees means?!? Hadees is simply the saying of the prophet muhammad (s.a.w.) When you claim that in Sahih muslim that is what was said by the prophet (s.a.w.) then that in reality is a hadees. If you follow simply the Quran without the live example of the prophet (s.a.w.) there are serious chances you would be mislead. Follow both
No one can disrespect TRUE PERSONAL SAYING [his personal hadith] of Prophet. So this is not the argument. But the point is that there was strict ban on possessing hadiths in the time of Prophet by Prophet and 4 Guided Caliphs and there is full fledged historical evidence for this ban on hadith. Why they banned? Bcaz they wanted Muslims shud follow only BOOK OF ALLAH. Allah says his book is complete. When u hv complete BOOK in ur hands, why shud u see other Book. U dumb
Allah says again and again in his BOOK that his Book is complete and Fully detailed. After this what Allah has said; if any person say, Quran is not complete and is not enuf & so we see forged hadiths, THEN he is biggest bastrd on this earth and his head has no brain but shit of pig.
Should u Bloody Fool badly brainwashed Psych-Fanatic Believe in Allah or ur Gay Pig Liar Mullahs who brainwashed u piglet? U not a Engineer. Simply: What is not Fard in BOOK is not Fard
U are a bigggg liar. U are not an engineer but a Crooked Donkey disguised in human skin. No any engineer in this world can be so brainless and stubborn blindly following fool as u are. Just shut-up and get lost frm here. Matter of truth will never enter in ur empty head. U are who deny even 2+2=4, Go to mad's hospital
@FictionsBlaster Your wordings and foul language, just goes on to prove how poor and backward your way of speaking is. It is only when people like you claim they know more about the Quran than the prophet (s.a.w.) himself that proves how dangerous this mentality is. Your abusive language shows how bad your upbringing was and how much you need to learn about manners. Please avoid insulting islam its not the right thing to do.
Why people take sides. just enjoy the discussion. how many people do we have in this country who can discuss such big issue like this. have fun and gain knowledge from both. They are great clerics and scholars of Islam.
@manidar1977 Is it not surprising that they differ each other despite the fact they have the same book? Allah says: "The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.2:113
@reasonlight . my dear friend. These two people do not have any fundamental difference like Jews and Christians have. These two clerics beleive in One God, five time prayers, 30 days fasting , giving charity and performing Hajj once in lifetime and doing good to people. This discussion is about setting the protocols of an islamic state. its a totally educational issue where everyone is allowed to have difference of opinion.
@manidar1977 Thank you friend. They may not have difference like Jews and Christians but they are rivals in profession. Allah has revealed guidance which is simple. It addresses direct to people. No cleric needed.
Their discussion in this video is based on false or unauthentic reports and not on Quran.
i would like to know about the approach of Mr.Javed Gamdhi's regarding Qanooni Itmaame-hujjat verses of Holy Quran, does he mean those verses and its implications are no more practically acceptable. these are the Mansookh verses? please be kind enough to let me know, thnx, Suhail Akhtar from India
Islam is no kheer .............. everyone can digest easily ......... after become Muslim there is more strict role will come and as a Muslim we have to follow ....
Ghamidi is more knowledgeable and calm. Also check the gestures of both while discussing. One fanatic who intend to kill the whole humanity in the name of religion. While second man tries to explain the broader sense of Jihad and whole scenario of Quranic proof and Prophet's regime.
Dr. Israr is sick and has the mission of killing the humanity only. He needs to understand Quran rather than imposing his wishes. Pitty on such scholars who spent 50 years and has this level to claim a scholar.
Ghamidi Shaib is great man. and he really made it clear and he more logicall whereas Dr.Israr is going ilogicall and has gone baseless. although i respect both of them. but i am impressed with Ghamidi Sahib and he made me satisfied
Ghamidi Shaib is great man. and he really made it clear and he more logicall whereas Dr.Israr is going ilogicall and has gone baseless. although i respect both of them. but i am impressed with Ghamidi Sahib and he made me satisfied
Ahmedi brothers and sister please follow Quran...........please read these two surahs to understand the tricks HMGA played with the words of Allah.....surah 81and 75.
@@Whole Sharia law is contained in Noble Quran. Any law or ritual that has no roots in Quran are unnecessary and so are not mandatory.
These freak Mullahs has made up many laws frm hadith bks tht were fabricated in the name of Prophet by Irani Parsi hadith Imams 300 yrs aft Prophet & these hadith bks insult Allah Prophet & attack Quran.
Imams bokhari Muslim, IbneMaja Nisaee abudaud Tirmizi & PIg Kileeni who forged shia bk al-kaafi were all enemy of Allah & Rasool
@Factszz You clearly have no idea how much hard work scholars like bukhari and muslim (rahima hullah) have done. You know you are slandering against these scholars. And that in and of itself is a big sin. So please think before you type....
How u a blindly following Jahil Fanatic know if Bukhari &other Persian Pseudo Imams [disguised Zoroastrians] wr scholars or enemy of Allah/Rasool? U beleive so bcaz ur Freak Mullah told u this lie. Tell us hioestly, hv u read these fake hadith books frm A to Z? If u say Yes, then u are the biggest liar on the face of planet. When u hv not read these Books fully as we hv; then how u know if they wr Scholars or IBlees? Can a Muslim Imam insult Allah Prophet & Quran in his book?
@Factszz The work of scholars in islam can NOT be under estimated. Its the sweat and blood of thousands of scholars who worked tirelessly only for the sake of Allah, to spread the message of islam. But, here you are so arrogantly SLANDERING against these noble scholars of Islam.
Secondly, your foul language and abusive words clearly show what kind of lacking you have of islam. Finally, you yourself have not read all the hadith, so you are lying and slandering. DISGUSTING!
O boy u must have right brain to understand difference between True scholars and a Iblees. Ur most of so called Scholars and Mullahs are in fact sons of Iblees.
These Persian Criminal Imams were enemy of Allah and Rasool. For Proof, search in Google following line and read the fully 5 times this page So that u must convert from a Jhail Hadither Mushrik to a Real Muslim:
"Some so called Hadiths that every educated Muslim on this planet must read"
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thr is no comparison between the two...Dr. Israr has the ocean of real knowledge of Quran n ahadith, which ..cant change in any situation concerning any time of the present world.... while Javed sahab, misinterprets the aayats of Quran n interprets them as per the convenience of the present world....
8:50 what an evil concept of Islamic state. May Allah save us from Dr. Israr sahibs mentality and state. Rasool Ullah SAW's Islam was entirely different. If Islamic state makes non muslims 2nd grade citizen, then why not non muslims states can bane islam there?
@ThePakiparis '' are u about sunnat e Rasool SAW??? no his sunnat was not that type... Rasool ullah SAW treated non muslims same like muslims were.... and this concept makes Islam as a international religion for all times
@ismahooAhmad brother plz listen again carefully what he said i think thats the best and equal way of treating non muslims they should be free for thair faith and religion and they can practice thair religion freely they can follow the law of thair religion and they should not go to army by force but if they want they can and they will b protected
@ismahooAhmad hello? kia islam ki tareekh parhie hy? tum chahte ho ke mumy dady islam ho to tumhari soch intihai past hy. aur jahan tak AAP S.A.W ki baat hy tu jung ke asoolon men yeh bat Quran kehta hy kre jiska mafhom ye hy aur NAbi ko ye shayan e shan nai dta ke apne pas qaidi rakhe yahan tak ke unka khon zameen par bahab diya jae
@muab6 Well,,,, first of all can u give me refrence where u got the ''mafhoom'' from Quran? and Rasool Ullah SAW was a prophet of Allah, not a worrier. Allah says, ''wa maa arsalnaaka illa rahmatul lil alameen'' so what do you mean by Mommy Dady Islam? any way Mummy Daddy Islam is better then BLODDY and Nasty religion...
3:00 basicallt this question is the answer of Dr. Israr sahibs wrong concepts. Now the islamic world is facing the same attitude of powerfuls. Bcz this concept is a cruel one.
mr ghamidi if you dont have proper knowlegde pls get some you said about imam mahdi there are no sahih hadeeth about him sir there are 50 sahih hadeeth about imam mahdi i am afraid you have some business with qadianis may Allah guide you and us on rt path ameen.
Ghamdi is a great religious scholar .... He puts thought and facts together... People who are commenting on Javed Ahmed Ghamdi should not talk in air .. the best way to retaliate is to quote anything in response from Quran, Sunnah or Ahaddeth .... This man can bring lots of prosperity of Islam in Pakistan... Hail Ghamdi
Mr ghamdi is lost, I'm not sure where he's been studying the Quran and what kind of Islam he's trying to teach. He believes there's nothing said by Prophet Mohammad (SAW) about the Mehdi when there're plenty of authentic Hadiths. Also Nearly every translated copy of the Quran confirms that Esa (AS) didn't die he still thinks he Died. Allah's law everything living thing must taste death. If Esa (AS) Died, Is he going to come back and Die again?? Is every translated copy of the Quran wrong???
GAMDI SB BASICALLY AIK MUNTASHAR ADMI HA WO HAR JAGA APNE AP KO BOHAT AQAL MAND AUR DANISH WAR SAMJTHE HA,JIS WAJA WO HAR KISI KI RIGHT BAAT SE B IKTHELAF KARTE HA AUR APNA KNOWLEDGE JARNE KI NAKAM KOSISH KARTE HA.
Superb Explanation of Ayats regarding Punishment from God to the people of Prophet & those who were Aware about it by Ghamdi No Muslim who has read the Quran thoroughly can't Deny it
Both the scholar at the start have same teacher....I don't remember his name but I have read this some where.... But own they are from different school of thoughts...
israr ahmed and his islam got exposed.. precisely aap karen to achchha ham karen to kharab.. aap spain fatah karen to achchha aur aap ko koi aur hataye spain se to inquisition.. sharm karo bhai sharm karo
You are right. Dr Israr sab is not right here. Ghamdi's point is closer to Islam. But plz dont use offensive words.
It is just a matter of good interpretation and bad interpretation. Finally you can judge both on your own wisdom and take the point of view you like most.
If Israra ahemd's intepreptation is real then Islam is nothign but blood thirsty sword wielding epire expanding philopshy .. And if world calls it terror factory then they are right in their assessment
@raqib56 Truth hurts brother. And yes adhominem is sign of intellectual bankrupcy. I am comparing apples with apples. Islamic conquest and their removal by other empire. It's certainly apples to apples
@raqib56 I hope your regurgitation makes sense to you at least.. To me those incoherent collection of words don't mean anything.. For betetr communication you can write in urdu in roman script ..
For sane person with no age to grind it's simple .. Bin Zayed didn;t reach Spain with flower in his hand he had sword in his hand so those progeny of Zayed have no right to cry wolf when they themselves are thrown on sword point from Spain.. Same story plays everywhere.
I guess it's futile to debate with braindeads like you.. If you have courage refute the points raised this continuous attack on me personally is not going to change the fact that islamists when on ascendancy went around the world with sword in one hand and quran in other
I request you all brothers not to abuse each other or any scholars because our language and our negative opinion gives non-muslims (whose intention is bad) an opportunity to defame Islam and its scholars.
Ghamidi Qadiani fitna hai. Agar is ke sooch ko na rooka gaya to jab Rasool ke Hadith ko challenge kerta hai to Sahaba ka kaya kary ga. Ye shaitan hai. Qayas kerta hai aur Allah ke hukam per apni rai deta hai. Apny ko Hadith aur Quran ka follower kahta magar us ka he inkar kerta hai. Apny knowledge ke buniad per bran washing ker raha hai. Knowledge hony se koi deendar nahi ban jata jaisy Mirza Ghulam Ahmad bahak gaya tha. Ghamidi kafer hai shaitan hai. Dr Israr aur Zakir Naik ko suno.
kuy bakwaas kar rahay ho that wat the need of time befoure 1500 year know today fallow today live today nonsince fools fuck u one man is like a non human i can make one big roap with your beard and you r fat need some exersise but the other uncle gaamzi is good man
plzz plzzz, I am a hindu, I wanna live under the sharia.What a freedom u have provided me with.I want to be protected minority.protected by you from you....What an option...I donot want freedom.......i want to be a second grade citizen.........You uuuuuuuuuuuu ......retards
Look at your retarded, foolish and third rated hinduism (which I think is not even religion, its a continuity of ignorance) then comment here....I dont want to put down ur pants by telling fetish stories of radha, krishna, ram and other perverts....so just fuk off!!!
You are stupid. You want to live in an Islamic state as an equal but Hindu. It is like you live in USA on green card but you want rights like US citizen. You have to become US citizen (American) befor you can even vote. Like wise you have to become a muslim in a Islamic state to enjoy equal rights or just live on a green card.
Israr Ahmad was right because Itmam-e- Hujjat WILL be Completed COMPLETELY When the Whole World lives under Islam, Whether As Muslims or As Non-Muslims under the Muslim rule.
Quran main jo jehad ki ayat hai vo qayamat tak key musalmanon key leye hai. ghamdi apni khopri ka engine zyada na chala !.. jehad-e-iqdami rehti dunya tak muslamn par fard hai..
He has invariably spent 25 years doing on Quranic text and i am really seeing total logic in his opinion most of the times. There is a vital difference between hadith and Sunnah that most of our religious AAlims do not alaborate. the issue of rajam punishment women witnesses and many others are remarkably defined by Ghamidi in true Light of islam.
he did'nt say tht killing people or non muslims without any hesitation..listen carefuly b4 comment. he said IF they(non muslims) interrupt our Islamic system or they don't follow our Islamic laws then this thing will possible. And if they do nothing bad or follow are Islamic laws even they r jewish, christians or hindu etc then we Muslim have no right 2 kill them.
May b my comment clairs ur tought abt Dr.Israr ahmed.
Search on youtube Dr Israr hazrat Ali ka gustakh and you will see the video in which he apologize that he had done GUSTAKHI ... Mahawara mashoor hai 1 modooodi .. 100 Yahoodi .... Ye Wahabi - ahlehadith log hain ... in ka ISHQ-E-ILAHI say koi wasta nahi .. in kay apnay bachay America may parhtay hain
kam az kam inhon ne Mafi to mangi hai na , bhut se aise hotain hain jinhain ALLAH ye tofeeq nhi dayte ke wo kisi ke samne jhukein ya un se mafi mangay.
Jazakallah , Dr.israr talks more with daleel of quran and hadiths and mashallah is very knowledgable and has produced very educated people in his quran academy,one of them is shuja uddin. dr zakir naik choose him for peace tv
Israr is one of the best " Jaahileen " of Pakistan. Yeah apni meraaj ko pohnchay huway Jaahil haiN. See how arrogant he is, Elm ka saath " Hilm " ka hona bohat zaruri hay, or is ka fuqdaan hai Israar Sahib maiN. You guys can see how he differ by saying that Ghamid is " Ghalat" whereas, Ghamidi, whenever, try to convey his opinion. He says that " maiN ikhtilaf kernay ki jisarat karooN ga. Ahle-Elm ka yehi tariqa hota hay. Mazay ki baat yeah hay kay, dono Jamat-e-Islami kay " Khaarji " haiN.
'zainahmed69', Ghaamidi is nor " Ahmadi " not " Munkar-e--hadeeth " He is, actually, " Munkar-e-Ahle-hadeeth ". He is more knowledgeable & capable than Dr. Israar Ahmad Saahib. He is really a " Faqeeh " as Quraan says that " Tafaqqu fid-Deen " or Mullah Gahamidi iss ki amali tafseer hay.
Israr is one of the best " Jaahileen " of Pakistan. Yeah apni meraaj ko pohnchay huway Jaahil haiN. See how arrogant he is, Elm ka saath " Hilm " ka hona bohat zaruri hay, or is ka fuqdaan hai Israar Sahib maiN. You guys can see how he differ by saying that Ghamid is " Ghalat" whereas, Ghamidi, whenever, try to convey his opinion. He says that " maiN ikhtilaf kernay ki jisarat karooN ga. Ahle-Elm ka yehi tariqa hota hay. Mazay ki baat yeah hay kay, dono Jamat-e-Islami kay " Khaarji " haiN
Jazakallah , Dr.israr talks more with daleel of quran and hadiths and mashallah is very knowledgable and has produced very educated people in his quran academy,one of them is shuja uddin. dr zakir naik choose him for peace tv
According to Dr Isra If he becomes powerful like America he will do what America is doing. What difference will it make to world peace there will be war anyway.
I think the best way is to win hearts with love and peace rather.
sorry logically ghamdi does not make any sense because a right system has a right to be spreaded so that everyone take benefit of it and you need to do it forcefully because capitalist will never agree to adopt islamic system
although dr. israr makesno sense whatsoever i agree here tht ghamidi doesnt make much sense too. IT IS NEVER llgical tht GOD/Allah command humans to carry out punishment on His behalf like in the case for apostasy. This is ebcause only GOD can read the ultimate intentions of any human. We cannot and thus an american maybe closer to GOD than any of us. NOW what dr. israr is promoting is the absurd notion of "might is right". What follows from that logicallly is tht...
...ultimately every one is goinf to kill everybody over EVER SMELLER DIFFERENCES in what GOD or GOD and His messenger really want because lastly it is ALL US HUMANS INTERPRETING THOSE STATEMENTS. We humans make ourslves imams, scholars, etc. This is wht these guys dont understand. The holy spirit doesnt come down and make us imams or khalifas does it? This is exactly the danger inheret to some extent in every organized religion. They think that how they interpret a cetrtain religious text ...
...is wht GOD wants. Angered by this other individuals will also start thinking the same. Thus every religion will fight the other and non will be left alive. Moreover the kind of "islam" dr. israr is promoting is NOT AT ALL just. it is extremely unjust to women and ultimetaly favors only the imaam or khalifa or scholars who are again mostly all men. There r also so many restritions on common men. their lives would become a living hell. and looting others wld be easy by just declaring one...
...an apostate as infact has been the case in paksiatan when the leaders at a certain time wanted to eradicate the oppsoition. They then played the apostasy card. This is not justice. This is INjustice at it's best!
Ghamdi is a fool and a big liar of the dajjalic media .
userzain 5 days ago
Ghamdi is coward is siting out of pakistan son of america and jews
5940279 1 week ago
All educated honest neutral [not brainwashed] and unbiased Muslims and non-Muslims MUST MUST MUST search following GREAT video in Google and watch. Will shake ground under ur feet if u are a psycho-Fanatic:
Fabricated hadiths books and Vimeo
Factszz 1 week ago
Ghamdi is Son of America and Europe that is why skiped from pakistan
5940279 2 weeks ago
@5940279
U are a big liar. Ghamidi left Pak bcaz in Pak vast majority is brainless blindly following Psycho-Fanatic Mushrik Hadithers like u who follow crap that Persian Imams [Disguised Zoroastrians] forged 250-400 years after Prophet in their fake hadith books and do not follow Book of Allah. Pak is in no way PRACTICALLY a Muslim country but a Coutry where majority is brainaless wolds' most dangerous Mad-Psycho-Fanatics animals live
Factszz 1 week ago
@Factszz If you think you can make your own version of islam then go ahead but PLEASE dont call it islam. Islam means primarliy following the prophet muhammad (s.a.w.) and that is a command of Allah in the Holy Quran. And, following the prophet OBVIOUSLY implies following the sunnah. Stop deviating people from the path of Allah!
engineering4logic 5 days ago
@engineering4logic
If u beleive in Quran then Listen; It was ONLY duty of all Prophets to Establish laws of Books of Allah tht Allah sent upun them [read verse 2:213 & 5:44] & It was not their duty to invent their own suna+hadith NOR EVER any prophet invented them but By Defeated Nation's Persian Imams [research 100% prove they wr Non-Muslims] 250-400 years aft the death of Prophet. Allah says his BOOK is Complete & Detailed. So u do not need to follow forged crap frm Persian's Books.
Factszz 4 days ago
@engineering4logic
"During Hazrat Omar's caliphate the ahadith were in abundance. He made sure by putting the people under oath that whatever hadith the people had in their possession ought to be brought before him. As ordered, the public submitted whatever they possessed. He then ordered to make a public bonfire of those hadiths."
(Tubqaat ibn Sa'ad, vol.5, page 141)
Factszz 4 days ago
@engineering4logic
"Abu Bakar RA brought collection of Hadiths and then he made a bonfire of them all."
(Quoted in Tudween e Hadith, page 285-88)
Factszz 4 days ago
@engineering4logic
A great Well known TRUTHFUL scholar of past Maulana Ubaid Ullah Sindhi says,
'I feel embarrassed to ask a Neo-Muslim European to read Bukhari's Hadith.'
(Risala al'Furqan, Shah Waliullah number, page # 286)
Factszz 4 days ago
@engineering4logic
Thirty yrs after the death of Prophet Chief Scribe for Quranic Wahi Zayd visited the palace of Caliph Amir Moaavia. One day he told a very good story about Prophet. Caliph liked the story very much and called a person to write down that story But Zayed said, NO, Prophet forbade us to write any of his hadith EXCEPT Quran.
Factszz 4 days ago
Whole Islamic law is contained ONLY IN QURAN.
Do u believe in what Allah says? Quranic Verse 5:44 declares those persons "KAAFIRS" who make sharia Laws from other Books than Noble Quran. [So no any Sharia law is valid but from Quran]
Abu Bakar said:
"If anyone inquires, you can always say tht we have the Holy Quran between us. Whatsoever it has been granted must be made permissible & whatsoever has been prohibited must be relinquished."
(Quoted in Tazkara tul Hifaaz e Zuhby, page 321)
Factszz 4 days ago
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To follow Prophet in Person is possible when he was alive. When he was alive. he was telling people to Follow Book of Allah. How u can follow Prophet after his death? There is only one way to following him which is to follow what he said us to follow: What he told us to follow? In Hadith Book of Muslim, he Said not one but FIVE times, [we can show u] "If u will hold fast after me one thing, u will never go Astray that is BOOK OF ALLAH. [hadith never existed when he said so]
FictionsBlaster 4 days ago
@FictionsBlaster Your last statement makes it clear to me that you clearly have no knowledge of what you are speaking about. Do you actually know what hadees means?!? Hadees is simply the saying of the prophet muhammad (s.a.w.) When you claim that in Sahih muslim that is what was said by the prophet (s.a.w.) then that in reality is a hadees. If you follow simply the Quran without the live example of the prophet (s.a.w.) there are serious chances you would be mislead. Follow both
engineering4logic 4 days ago
@engine
No one can disrespect TRUE PERSONAL SAYING [his personal hadith] of Prophet. So this is not the argument. But the point is that there was strict ban on possessing hadiths in the time of Prophet by Prophet and 4 Guided Caliphs and there is full fledged historical evidence for this ban on hadith. Why they banned? Bcaz they wanted Muslims shud follow only BOOK OF ALLAH. Allah says his book is complete. When u hv complete BOOK in ur hands, why shud u see other Book. U dumb
FictionsBlaster 3 days ago
@eng
Allah says again and again in his BOOK that his Book is complete and Fully detailed. After this what Allah has said; if any person say, Quran is not complete and is not enuf & so we see forged hadiths, THEN he is biggest bastrd on this earth and his head has no brain but shit of pig.
Should u Bloody Fool badly brainwashed Psych-Fanatic Believe in Allah or ur Gay Pig Liar Mullahs who brainwashed u piglet? U not a Engineer. Simply: What is not Fard in BOOK is not Fard
FictionsBlaster 3 days ago
@engineering4logic
U are a bigggg liar. U are not an engineer but a Crooked Donkey disguised in human skin. No any engineer in this world can be so brainless and stubborn blindly following fool as u are. Just shut-up and get lost frm here. Matter of truth will never enter in ur empty head. U are who deny even 2+2=4, Go to mad's hospital
FictionsBlaster 3 days ago
@FictionsBlaster Your wordings and foul language, just goes on to prove how poor and backward your way of speaking is. It is only when people like you claim they know more about the Quran than the prophet (s.a.w.) himself that proves how dangerous this mentality is. Your abusive language shows how bad your upbringing was and how much you need to learn about manners. Please avoid insulting islam its not the right thing to do.
engineering4logic 2 days ago
Why people take sides. just enjoy the discussion. how many people do we have in this country who can discuss such big issue like this. have fun and gain knowledge from both. They are great clerics and scholars of Islam.
manidar1977 1 month ago
@manidar1977 Is it not surprising that they differ each other despite the fact they have the same book? Allah says: "The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.2:113
Don they follow Quran?
reasonlight 4 weeks ago
@reasonlight . my dear friend. These two people do not have any fundamental difference like Jews and Christians have. These two clerics beleive in One God, five time prayers, 30 days fasting , giving charity and performing Hajj once in lifetime and doing good to people. This discussion is about setting the protocols of an islamic state. its a totally educational issue where everyone is allowed to have difference of opinion.
manidar1977 3 weeks ago
@manidar1977 Thank you friend. They may not have difference like Jews and Christians but they are rivals in profession. Allah has revealed guidance which is simple. It addresses direct to people. No cleric needed.
Their discussion in this video is based on false or unauthentic reports and not on Quran.
reasonlight 3 weeks ago
This interpretation of why Surah Tauba does not have Bismillah in the start is a new thing for me. and it looks very reasonable.
manidar1977 1 month ago
@jannatkichidya
please search
Ghamidi- The Divine Law of Punishment [Azaab]
kudkhan 1 month ago
i would like to know about the approach of Mr.Javed Gamdhi's regarding Qanooni Itmaame-hujjat verses of Holy Quran, does he mean those verses and its implications are no more practically acceptable. these are the Mansookh verses? please be kind enough to let me know, thnx, Suhail Akhtar from India
jannatkichidya 4 months ago
Dr israr is right.. And he was and still is the greatest scholar of south-central Asia.
xphaisalx 4 months ago
dr israr is best.
SATTI255 5 months ago
Ghamidi is the greatest scholar of our time. May Allah bless & protect him.
sanwal 6 months ago
Khush Haali Laanay Waali 7 Cheezain:
1. Quran Ki Tilaawat.
2. Namaaz Ki Paabandi.
3. ALLAH Ka Shukr Ada Karna.
4. Majboor Ki Madad Karna.
5. Gunahon Se Tauba.
6. Azeezon Se Achha Sulook.
7. Subah K Waqt Surah Yaseen
Aur Shaam K Waqt Surah Waqia Ki Tilaawat.
SkySmile100 6 months ago
Islam is no kheer .............. everyone can digest easily ......... after become Muslim there is more strict role will come and as a Muslim we have to follow ....
fahadali2018 6 months ago
agree with ghamidi
umerabadpirzada 8 months ago
I completly agree with Gamidhi Sahab!!!
shariyaaaa 8 months ago
haq ki jhat patahat haq hy bateil k mojudgi pay ...
arsu85 9 months ago
Ghamidi is more knowledgeable and calm. Also check the gestures of both while discussing. One fanatic who intend to kill the whole humanity in the name of religion. While second man tries to explain the broader sense of Jihad and whole scenario of Quranic proof and Prophet's regime.
Dr. Israr is sick and has the mission of killing the humanity only. He needs to understand Quran rather than imposing his wishes. Pitty on such scholars who spent 50 years and has this level to claim a scholar.
artistlikeu 10 months ago 2
@artistlikeu shut up you son of America
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imhere002 - ahmadiyyat is a cult, not a religion, how can mgaq be a nabi,eisah.......
qizzak 10 months ago
chaloo dr israr sb ne ye to sabit kr diya k amarica is doing right......lol
gamdi is right but israr sb k pojariyoon ko kaise samhaj aye. may Allah guide us to right. Ameen
akdlhr 1 year ago
Ghamdi is stupid cunt......
smightyking2002 1 year ago
Mr Ghamidi is the MAN!
Mann4821 1 year ago
Ghamidi Shaib is great man. and he really made it clear and he more logicall whereas Dr.Israr is going ilogicall and has gone baseless. although i respect both of them. but i am impressed with Ghamidi Sahib and he made me satisfied
latenightpromenade 1 year ago 2
Ghamidi Shaib is great man. and he really made it clear and he more logicall whereas Dr.Israr is going ilogicall and has gone baseless. although i respect both of them. but i am impressed with Ghamidi Sahib and he made me satisfied
latenightpromenade 1 year ago 2
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Ahmedi brothers and sister please follow Quran...........please read these two surahs to understand the tricks HMGA played with the words of Allah.....surah 81and 75.
theonepointonly 1 year ago
@@Whole Sharia law is contained in Noble Quran. Any law or ritual that has no roots in Quran are unnecessary and so are not mandatory.
These freak Mullahs has made up many laws frm hadith bks tht were fabricated in the name of Prophet by Irani Parsi hadith Imams 300 yrs aft Prophet & these hadith bks insult Allah Prophet & attack Quran.
Imams bokhari Muslim, IbneMaja Nisaee abudaud Tirmizi & PIg Kileeni who forged shia bk al-kaafi were all enemy of Allah & Rasool
Awake up Muslims
Factszz 1 year ago 19
@Factszz You clearly have no idea how much hard work scholars like bukhari and muslim (rahima hullah) have done. You know you are slandering against these scholars. And that in and of itself is a big sin. So please think before you type....
engineering4logic 1 week ago
@engineering4logic
How u a blindly following Jahil Fanatic know if Bukhari &other Persian Pseudo Imams [disguised Zoroastrians] wr scholars or enemy of Allah/Rasool? U beleive so bcaz ur Freak Mullah told u this lie. Tell us hioestly, hv u read these fake hadith books frm A to Z? If u say Yes, then u are the biggest liar on the face of planet. When u hv not read these Books fully as we hv; then how u know if they wr Scholars or IBlees? Can a Muslim Imam insult Allah Prophet & Quran in his book?
Factszz 1 week ago
@Factszz The work of scholars in islam can NOT be under estimated. Its the sweat and blood of thousands of scholars who worked tirelessly only for the sake of Allah, to spread the message of islam. But, here you are so arrogantly SLANDERING against these noble scholars of Islam.
Secondly, your foul language and abusive words clearly show what kind of lacking you have of islam. Finally, you yourself have not read all the hadith, so you are lying and slandering. DISGUSTING!
engineering4logic 1 week ago
@engineering4logic
O boy u must have right brain to understand difference between True scholars and a Iblees. Ur most of so called Scholars and Mullahs are in fact sons of Iblees.
Factszz 1 week ago
@engineering with out 4logic
These Persian Criminal Imams were enemy of Allah and Rasool. For Proof, search in Google following line and read the fully 5 times this page So that u must convert from a Jhail Hadither Mushrik to a Real Muslim:
"Some so called Hadiths that every educated Muslim on this planet must read"
Factszz 1 week ago
PLEASE VISIT alislam.org FOR REAL ISLAM. FOR KHILFAT E HAQA ISLAMIYA. FOR PEACE AND FOR MAKING YOUR LIVES AS ISLAMIC TEACHINGS.
AHMADIYYAT ZINDABAD PAENDABAD
imhere002 1 year ago
Ghamidi is nothing infront of Dr israr ahmed
basraali2 1 year ago
right
7616557 1 year ago
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markjartansson 1 year ago
thr is no comparison between the two...Dr. Israr has the ocean of real knowledge of Quran n ahadith, which ..cant change in any situation concerning any time of the present world.... while Javed sahab, misinterprets the aayats of Quran n interprets them as per the convenience of the present world....
simplysajid11 1 year ago
dr israr is great ,,,.. no parallel...
kashmiriyan 1 year ago 2
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Ghamidi's arguments are very solid and logical,
Dr Asrar is surprisingly negative ! His qayass were
unecessary !!
raqib56 1 year ago
8:50 what an evil concept of Islamic state. May Allah save us from Dr. Israr sahibs mentality and state. Rasool Ullah SAW's Islam was entirely different. If Islamic state makes non muslims 2nd grade citizen, then why not non muslims states can bane islam there?
ismahooAhmad 1 year ago
@ismahooAhmad 8:50 IS A GREAT ANSWER accordind to sunnat
ThePakiparis 1 year ago
@ThePakiparis '' are u about sunnat e Rasool SAW??? no his sunnat was not that type... Rasool ullah SAW treated non muslims same like muslims were.... and this concept makes Islam as a international religion for all times
ismahooAhmad 1 year ago
@ismahooAhmad brother plz listen again carefully what he said i think thats the best and equal way of treating non muslims they should be free for thair faith and religion and they can practice thair religion freely they can follow the law of thair religion and they should not go to army by force but if they want they can and they will b protected
ThePakiparis 1 year ago
@ismahooAhmad hello? kia islam ki tareekh parhie hy? tum chahte ho ke mumy dady islam ho to tumhari soch intihai past hy. aur jahan tak AAP S.A.W ki baat hy tu jung ke asoolon men yeh bat Quran kehta hy kre jiska mafhom ye hy aur NAbi ko ye shayan e shan nai dta ke apne pas qaidi rakhe yahan tak ke unka khon zameen par bahab diya jae
muab6 1 year ago
@muab6 Well,,,, first of all can u give me refrence where u got the ''mafhoom'' from Quran? and Rasool Ullah SAW was a prophet of Allah, not a worrier. Allah says, ''wa maa arsalnaaka illa rahmatul lil alameen'' so what do you mean by Mommy Dady Islam? any way Mummy Daddy Islam is better then BLODDY and Nasty religion...
ismahooAhmad 1 year ago
3:00 basicallt this question is the answer of Dr. Israr sahibs wrong concepts. Now the islamic world is facing the same attitude of powerfuls. Bcz this concept is a cruel one.
ismahooAhmad 1 year ago
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Ghamdi thinks Quran is "story book" instead book of principles...
Ghamdi limits Quran in time, place and land. shallow thinking.
sherirao 1 year ago
mr ghamidi if you dont have proper knowlegde pls get some you said about imam mahdi there are no sahih hadeeth about him sir there are 50 sahih hadeeth about imam mahdi i am afraid you have some business with qadianis may Allah guide you and us on rt path ameen.
g1heart 1 year ago
Allah taala hameen hifazat mein rakheen aameen
jalilabsar 1 year ago
Maulana israr sb!! america say pehlay tu muselmanun ka imlosion ho gaya hai.. us ke fikr karen, apnay logun ke taleem o terbiat karain
kudkhan 1 year ago
strange..THE HUMAN IS VERY STRANGE.......
danial673 1 year ago
Ghamdi is a great religious scholar .... He puts thought and facts together... People who are commenting on Javed Ahmed Ghamdi should not talk in air .. the best way to retaliate is to quote anything in response from Quran, Sunnah or Ahaddeth .... This man can bring lots of prosperity of Islam in Pakistan... Hail Ghamdi
danykh0nn 1 year ago 2
Mr ghamdi is lost, I'm not sure where he's been studying the Quran and what kind of Islam he's trying to teach. He believes there's nothing said by Prophet Mohammad (SAW) about the Mehdi when there're plenty of authentic Hadiths. Also Nearly every translated copy of the Quran confirms that Esa (AS) didn't die he still thinks he Died. Allah's law everything living thing must taste death. If Esa (AS) Died, Is he going to come back and Die again?? Is every translated copy of the Quran wrong???
os0902 1 year ago
Gamdi makes much more sense. its good we got rid of mullata like israr. but unfortunately he left behind lots of tedpoles...
franzxxxx 1 year ago
Tuba Mr. ghamdi has his own interpretations on deen. may Allah giude him. Ameen
fati0983 1 year ago
who says Ghamdi is a scholar ???????
fati0983 1 year ago
GAMDI SB BASICALLY AIK MUNTASHAR ADMI HA WO HAR JAGA APNE AP KO BOHAT AQAL MAND AUR DANISH WAR SAMJTHE HA,JIS WAJA WO HAR KISI KI RIGHT BAAT SE B IKTHELAF KARTE HA AUR APNA KNOWLEDGE JARNE KI NAKAM KOSISH KARTE HA.
landscapech 1 year ago
host is idiot
kamikim1 1 year ago
Superb Explanation of Ayats regarding Punishment from God to the people of Prophet & those who were Aware about it by Ghamdi No Muslim who has read the Quran thoroughly can't Deny it
bilal2exclusive 1 year ago
javed ghamdi is a fucktard...
haartengineer 1 year ago
He rejects
1. Any form of Had (Prescribed Punishment),
2. Hadith to be direct
3. Nazool Eesa Alahi Salam and his Life (like Qadiyanis)
4. Had for an Apostate (Murtad)
5. Claims the 7 recitations of quran to be wrong (he is a close ally and aide of Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer)
6. Music and Dancing of all sorts is permissible
7. Jihad against oppression is the only jihad allowed
8. The Shahadat of a man and woman are equal
9. There is no concept of Purdah (Hijab / Veil) in Islam
shutupji 1 year ago
Both the scholar at the start have same teacher....I don't remember his name but I have read this some where.... But own they are from different school of thoughts...
jawadulhasan 1 year ago
How can you force people to believe when the Qur'an says that there can be no compulsion in Deen??
mubashir56 1 year ago
Ghamdi sab is one of the greatest living scholar in Muslim world.
Love u sir... may ur seed prosper...
Pathetic personal attack will not diminish ur stature
haemakhan 1 year ago
Ghamdi Cannot recite Ayat of Quran in true arabic way. Quran is not in punjabi, you must recite Quran according to the rules of Qirat.
saqipak 1 year ago
@ Dadarocks
You are an ultimate example of an illiterate historian.
No offense.
EnthusiasticLearner 2 years ago
I like the arguments of MR.Ghamidi, Dr.Israr has weak arguments and fixation of the ideas.
rizviwajidrizvi 2 years ago
Ghamdi tum alam hote howe bhi la elem ho
mralam98 2 years ago
Dr. Israr Ahmed is a great scholar , May Allah bless him forever. ameen ya rabul Alameen.
lovelytuberoses 2 years ago
I fully endorse Ghamdi sab. Dr Israr's interpretation is not correct.
oksialkot 2 years ago
so true
NawazTakla 2 years ago
israr ahmed and his islam got exposed.. precisely aap karen to achchha ham karen to kharab.. aap spain fatah karen to achchha aur aap ko koi aur hataye spain se to inquisition.. sharm karo bhai sharm karo
dadarocks 2 years ago
You are right. Dr Israr sab is not right here. Ghamdi's point is closer to Islam. But plz dont use offensive words.
It is just a matter of good interpretation and bad interpretation. Finally you can judge both on your own wisdom and take the point of view you like most.
oksialkot 2 years ago
If Israra ahemd's intepreptation is real then Islam is nothign but blood thirsty sword wielding epire expanding philopshy .. And if world calls it terror factory then they are right in their assessment
dadarocks 2 years ago
Dada,
u put apples and oranges together and
say they are the same, u rock dada,
certainly ur logic is that of Mullah Nasruddin's donkey, when did u consult
ur doctor last on the subject of sharm ?
raqib56 2 years ago
@raqib56 Truth hurts brother. And yes adhominem is sign of intellectual bankrupcy. I am comparing apples with apples. Islamic conquest and their removal by other empire. It's certainly apples to apples
dadarocks 2 years ago
dada,
again the same bullshit,
u r mixing truth with falshood and btw, both seems to be your appriciations.
and on the top of it, u r looking for
intellectual degree in your cacophony.
YOU DISAPPOINTED US ALL BY INSISTING ON YOUR SHORTSIGHTEDNESS.
YE ANGOOR KHAUTTAY HEIN !!
raqib56 2 years ago
@raqib56 I hope your regurgitation makes sense to you at least.. To me those incoherent collection of words don't mean anything.. For betetr communication you can write in urdu in roman script ..
For sane person with no age to grind it's simple .. Bin Zayed didn;t reach Spain with flower in his hand he had sword in his hand so those progeny of Zayed have no right to cry wolf when they themselves are thrown on sword point from Spain.. Same story plays everywhere.
dadarocks 2 years ago
dadarocks,
you insist on your pagalhood, u repeat like
bleeding zionit qadiani Hasan Nisar, its called
demagogy,
raqib56 2 years ago
I guess it's futile to debate with braindeads like you.. If you have courage refute the points raised this continuous attack on me personally is not going to change the fact that islamists when on ascendancy went around the world with sword in one hand and quran in other
dadarocks 2 years ago
dada ji,
same feeling about u, u don't impose
ur point of view on others, particularly,
historical, You tend to run your own agenda. You are contradicting yourself,
as if all other sects & religions created
" paradise " when ascending every where
around the planet with Brahin-e
Ahmadyya in one hand & colonial certificates of loyalties in the other.
Have you ever read history, Sir ?
raqib56 2 years ago
do not abuse any muslim scholar if even he is wrong ..you dont know who is right ...dont take a side
ahreeb007 2 years ago
Dr ISrar Is the most stupid islami scholar i have ever seeen in my whole life he is just a perfect idiot....lol
aliwarraich 2 years ago
A great debate based on knowledge. Don't take it personal... just take it easy.
kashifsamad 2 years ago 4
I request you all brothers not to abuse each other or any scholars because our language and our negative opinion gives non-muslims (whose intention is bad) an opportunity to defame Islam and its scholars.
Rest Allah knows best.
bmujeeb 2 years ago 32
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Ghamdi is Qadyanii Agent, he kaffir simple
GreaterPakistan 2 years ago
I think he is Irani agent, he is defending Qadiyahi because he thinks that next is shiaism
nashar65 2 years ago
Ghamidi Qadiani fitna hai. Agar is ke sooch ko na rooka gaya to jab Rasool ke Hadith ko challenge kerta hai to Sahaba ka kaya kary ga. Ye shaitan hai. Qayas kerta hai aur Allah ke hukam per apni rai deta hai. Apny ko Hadith aur Quran ka follower kahta magar us ka he inkar kerta hai. Apny knowledge ke buniad per bran washing ker raha hai. Knowledge hony se koi deendar nahi ban jata jaisy Mirza Ghulam Ahmad bahak gaya tha. Ghamidi kafer hai shaitan hai. Dr Israr aur Zakir Naik ko suno.
saleemfarooq123 2 years ago
Israr sahib ser per Kafan bando our laro .Logon ko kyon marwate ho.
World has become very very civilized and changed.Try to understand,but your vision is very narrow.Ghamidi like people are hope for the future.
Muneeb58 2 years ago
kuy bakwaas kar rahay ho that wat the need of time befoure 1500 year know today fallow today live today nonsince fools fuck u one man is like a non human i can make one big roap with your beard and you r fat need some exersise but the other uncle gaamzi is good man
raja973 2 years ago
plzz plzzz, I am a hindu, I wanna live under the sharia.What a freedom u have provided me with.I want to be protected minority.protected by you from you....What an option...I donot want freedom.......i want to be a second grade citizen.........You uuuuuuuuuuuu ......retards
rahul1116 2 years ago
Look at your retarded, foolish and third rated hinduism (which I think is not even religion, its a continuity of ignorance) then comment here....I dont want to put down ur pants by telling fetish stories of radha, krishna, ram and other perverts....so just fuk off!!!
barelyaverage 2 years ago
good luck to you.live your (intellectual) life.
rahul1116 2 years ago
You are stupid. You want to live in an Islamic state as an equal but Hindu. It is like you live in USA on green card but you want rights like US citizen. You have to become US citizen (American) befor you can even vote. Like wise you have to become a muslim in a Islamic state to enjoy equal rights or just live on a green card.
imranutube 2 years ago
Ghamdi is my hero!
mehbooburrehman 2 years ago
Dr Israr is the epitome of illogic.
jamesmaxwell007 2 years ago
Our job is to listen both of them and its upon us to decide who is better rite....
Hammadasian 2 years ago 4
dr sab is great true man and good beliver
awais5344 2 years ago
Israr Ahmad was right because Itmam-e- Hujjat WILL be Completed COMPLETELY When the Whole World lives under Islam, Whether As Muslims or As Non-Muslims under the Muslim rule.
paki3393 2 years ago
Quran main jo jehad ki ayat hai vo qayamat tak key musalmanon key leye hai. ghamdi apni khopri ka engine zyada na chala !.. jehad-e-iqdami rehti dunya tak muslamn par fard hai..
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I think Gam di is a honest dog of American n jewish Lobby
wikixyz 2 years ago
He has invariably spent 25 years doing on Quranic text and i am really seeing total logic in his opinion most of the times. There is a vital difference between hadith and Sunnah that most of our religious AAlims do not alaborate. the issue of rajam punishment women witnesses and many others are remarkably defined by Ghamidi in true Light of islam.
kudkhan 2 years ago 4
ghamdi is gr8
waqiuddinbaig 2 years ago 4
Dr. Israr Ahmad you just dont make any sense, Sir. Sorry.
PakistaniPathan786 2 years ago
sense pathan g
7wajih 2 years ago
Dr. Ghamidi is THE MAN, we muslims need leaders like you , Sir. May ALLAH bless you.
PakistaniPathan786 2 years ago 4
Is larki ko kis ne bithaya hai program main
wahdateumat 2 years ago 9
Mullah Israr pagal hogia
Shahzad03 2 years ago
ha ha ha so right man! thats hilarious
muqadama 2 years ago
Jis ko din ki thori si bhi samaj ho, jo logon ko koi nuksaan nhi dayta or QURAN ki ayyat bayaan kerta ho us ki izzat krni chahiye......
person16crazy 2 years ago
Dr. Israr talking about killing people or non muslim without any hesitation. Is the non muslim r not humen being or they dont have childeren?.
sam71berlin 2 years ago
he did'nt say tht killing people or non muslims without any hesitation..listen carefuly b4 comment. he said IF they(non muslims) interrupt our Islamic system or they don't follow our Islamic laws then this thing will possible. And if they do nothing bad or follow are Islamic laws even they r jewish, christians or hindu etc then we Muslim have no right 2 kill them.
May b my comment clairs ur tought abt Dr.Israr ahmed.
person16crazy 2 years ago
Search on youtube Dr Israr hazrat Ali ka gustakh and you will see the video in which he apologize that he had done GUSTAKHI ... Mahawara mashoor hai 1 modooodi .. 100 Yahoodi .... Ye Wahabi - ahlehadith log hain ... in ka ISHQ-E-ILAHI say koi wasta nahi .. in kay apnay bachay America may parhtay hain
TradeMiracle 2 years ago
kam az kam inhon ne Mafi to mangi hai na , bhut se aise hotain hain jinhain ALLAH ye tofeeq nhi dayte ke wo kisi ke samne jhukein ya un se mafi mangay.
person16crazy 2 years ago
WOW is Dr. IsRAR drunk .....
uatk 2 years ago
no i think he would be worse when drunk, he is completely sane ,,, can u imagine?
muqadama 2 years ago
Mohteram Ghamidi is very convincing.
Munibsamir 2 years ago
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Ghamidi Kutta
74i 2 years ago
Jazakallah , Dr.israr talks more with daleel of quran and hadiths and mashallah is very knowledgable and has produced very educated people in his quran academy,one of them is shuja uddin. dr zakir naik choose him for peace tv
loveurcreator 2 years ago
Islam is very very Simple DEEN but stupid imposters have made it complex.
My very dear and beloved Wise Muslim Brother and Sister!
Islam has very very Simple Fundamental Rule, which is:
Do not do at all what is forbidden in Quran and What Quran does not discuss explicitly or implicitly, is Optional to you
PurgingFalsehood 2 years ago
Israr is one of the best " Jaahileen " of Pakistan. Yeah apni meraaj ko pohnchay huway Jaahil haiN. See how arrogant he is, Elm ka saath " Hilm " ka hona bohat zaruri hay, or is ka fuqdaan hai Israar Sahib maiN. You guys can see how he differ by saying that Ghamid is " Ghalat" whereas, Ghamidi, whenever, try to convey his opinion. He says that " maiN ikhtilaf kernay ki jisarat karooN ga. Ahle-Elm ka yehi tariqa hota hay. Mazay ki baat yeah hay kay, dono Jamat-e-Islami kay " Khaarji " haiN.
Charascheid 2 years ago
'zainahmed69', Ghaamidi is nor " Ahmadi " not " Munkar-e--hadeeth " He is, actually, " Munkar-e-Ahle-hadeeth ". He is more knowledgeable & capable than Dr. Israar Ahmad Saahib. He is really a " Faqeeh " as Quraan says that " Tafaqqu fid-Deen " or Mullah Gahamidi iss ki amali tafseer hay.
jammjelly 2 years ago
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Israr is one of the best " Jaahileen " of Pakistan. Yeah apni meraaj ko pohnchay huway Jaahil haiN. See how arrogant he is, Elm ka saath " Hilm " ka hona bohat zaruri hay, or is ka fuqdaan hai Israar Sahib maiN. You guys can see how he differ by saying that Ghamid is " Ghalat" whereas, Ghamidi, whenever, try to convey his opinion. He says that " maiN ikhtilaf kernay ki jisarat karooN ga. Ahle-Elm ka yehi tariqa hota hay. Mazay ki baat yeah hay kay, dono Jamat-e-Islami kay " Khaarji " haiN
jammjelly 2 years ago
Jazakallah , Dr.israr talks more with daleel of quran and hadiths and mashallah is very knowledgable and has produced very educated people in his quran academy,one of them is shuja uddin. dr zakir naik choose him for peace tv
loveurcreator 2 years ago
This debate effectively throws away accepting Islam by choice.
mubashir56 3 years ago
According to Dr Isra If he becomes powerful like America he will do what America is doing. What difference will it make to world peace there will be war anyway.
I think the best way is to win hearts with love and peace rather.
awais9428 3 years ago
sorry logically ghamdi does not make any sense because a right system has a right to be spreaded so that everyone take benefit of it and you need to do it forcefully because capitalist will never agree to adopt islamic system
hassanz25 3 years ago
although dr. israr makesno sense whatsoever i agree here tht ghamidi doesnt make much sense too. IT IS NEVER llgical tht GOD/Allah command humans to carry out punishment on His behalf like in the case for apostasy. This is ebcause only GOD can read the ultimate intentions of any human. We cannot and thus an american maybe closer to GOD than any of us. NOW what dr. israr is promoting is the absurd notion of "might is right". What follows from that logicallly is tht...
jonnykzj 2 years ago
...ultimately every one is goinf to kill everybody over EVER SMELLER DIFFERENCES in what GOD or GOD and His messenger really want because lastly it is ALL US HUMANS INTERPRETING THOSE STATEMENTS. We humans make ourslves imams, scholars, etc. This is wht these guys dont understand. The holy spirit doesnt come down and make us imams or khalifas does it? This is exactly the danger inheret to some extent in every organized religion. They think that how they interpret a cetrtain religious text ...
jonnykzj 2 years ago
...is wht GOD wants. Angered by this other individuals will also start thinking the same. Thus every religion will fight the other and non will be left alive. Moreover the kind of "islam" dr. israr is promoting is NOT AT ALL just. it is extremely unjust to women and ultimetaly favors only the imaam or khalifa or scholars who are again mostly all men. There r also so many restritions on common men. their lives would become a living hell. and looting others wld be easy by just declaring one...
jonnykzj 2 years ago
...an apostate as infact has been the case in paksiatan when the leaders at a certain time wanted to eradicate the oppsoition. They then played the apostasy card. This is not justice. This is INjustice at it's best!
jonnykzj 2 years ago
Dear I think this is a good debait. Its a healthy debait. It should go on and we'll reach on an agreement.
AFilmDirector 2 years ago
ghamidi is 4m ahmedia,,,hes not muslim..he seems to be muslim,,,he is munkar e hadis
zainahmed69 3 years ago
no 'zainahmed69', he doesn't belong to Ahmedia. Do your research before you post comments.
im0316 3 years ago
Ghamidi speak with authority and have more knowledge then this Mullah Israr
MindMasters 3 years ago