zildjian conversion

[xXPH4GGaTr0n5o0oXx]

actually pretty good sounding

How did you cut it though?

[donnyfox123]

how did you cut it???????? i hav a cracked zbt crash too

[chickenbeforeegg]

It sounds like the one Matt Greiner uses on his ride :D I should try doing that, I have a bunch of super cracked cymbals to get bells out of haha

[eatrocksah]

fail....blink-182 poster in the background

[FlorianWaletzko]

@eatrocksah fail its +44

[1111ccccgggg]

Zbts are awful!

[passion4drums]

zildjians all machine now...

[TheThedrummer03]

How did you cut it out?

[Maidenfan4497]

i wonder if hes travis barker influenced........hmmmmm

[byronthe4th1]

i did the same thing lol

[monkeymcman5]

that sounds freaking amazing!



[djblaizemusic]

I used an old advis 16" crash I found, sounds darker than a zil bel but less bright it's ok. I despise any b8 cymbal though... Oh! And if you come upon an old firebell or school bell those work GREAT!!!!! I has one and love it :)))))))

[Jaco979]

sounds better than the zilbel i reckon. i want it.

[mythkid1208]

What band posters do you have in the backround? (minus the red hot chilli peppers)

[blindrock1]

that sounds OK and it is true to never throw out your cymbals Even my shitty starter crash was bent and now sounds like an OK china cymbal

[mapex24x18]

thts what me and my pops did...love it!

[MarkoMaddy]

wow such a cool sound, good job for you and gramps :) and bloody hell you must of hit the shit out of that thing to make a crack like that!

[dougie159753]

that sounds quite nice man.

[badwes666]

Wuhan chinas the the best i have a 20'' with rivets best for breakdowns and they take a beating also

[autoexec]

cool man! you and your grandpa rule! :)

[locomotion17]

dude tht is smart i was thinking on doing tht but you did it first congrats

[1000000jackpot777]

paiste makes the best chinas

[GuitarHeroN00b]

This is my own opinion:

Best Chinas: Wuhan/Sabian XS20s

Best Hi-Hats: Zildjian A Custom Mastersound Hats

Best Crashes: Basically ALL high-end crashes

Best Rides: Various Sabians, couple Piastes, and a couple Zildjians.

[ThatDrummerTrent]

guys:

Meinl makes good chinas

zildjian makes good crashes

sabian makes good hihats

paiste makes good rides

ok? now shut up with "oh this cymbal sux this is the best blah blah blah blah blah"

[BeamerSkatePark]

what did u use to cut out that old one cause ive got a crappy old crash that i wanna cut into a spash or bell how do u suggest i go about it?

[WhenxChristxReturnsx]

Sounds nice! I try not to hit my cymbals hard, but it sucks cause I like splashes and those tend to be thin and crack easily. Plus I'd very much like a crash cymbal so I could just use my ride/crash cymbal solely for riding.

[dartthewarrior]

it almost sounds like a cup chime (sabian/paiste) great idea!! this way you don't have to waste a cymbal!!

[Alisterbmx]

i did the same thing with and 18 and 16" paiste crashes!! im pretty happy with them :)

[sptz46]

ended up sounding pretty good.

[wrthdrumer]

oooo

for a broken cymbal that doesnt sound too bad

[Killadelphi420]

thats genius

[OhYeaIRemeber]

wow that's amazing awesome sounding

haha better than i expected

[UnearthGOD114]

what did u cut it with?

[agentgear]

thats sick,i was just thinking to do that to my broken a custom.

[avenged7xfan12]

sounds sick what did u cut itwith

[abaddon5]

That actually sounds pretty nice.

[abaddon5]

I don't know...John Bonham said that he used Paiste because they were the only cymbals he couldn't break. And I've gotta say: I have never cracked a cymbal. I've bent small splashes. How are you guys breaking these cymbals?

[joedrummer8]

Paiste, huh? i gotta get me some of those cuz i just broke my second cymbal in 2 years

[abaddon5]

Paistes are worth it, dude. Even the PST5s are a better value than, say, Zildjian ZBTs. You *may* pay a little more for them, but they last. Hell, a lot of pro drummers still use Alphas (like Joey Jordinson), because they sound great and the prices are fair. Zildjians are just too expensive and not very good (in my opinion).

[joedrummer8]

sweet. if joey and bonzo can't break them, i doubt i can

[plopenstien]

yeah id just watch out for the splashes, bigger tightened ones break, i broke mine and the other splash snapped on my snare rim so, splashes from paiste will break but other than them i havent broke one yet, and im a fairly hard hitter myself

[bigmuffexpress]

Agreed!

I am a Grohl-influenced rock drummer, and i had a Paiste Alpha 16" crash for nearly 5 years. So that's 5 years of being whaled on and once even stuck into a brick wall....

I still play it but it has just developed a *tiny* crack on the edge.

I had a Zildjian 19" Medium Thin (avedis) and i had it replaced after 2 months or less because of a design fault.

Go Paiste, kids.

[a7d7f7]

finally someone agrees that zildjian sucks, meinl is the best

[napalmdeatho1]

stupid

[xXKRoweXx]

i think meinl makes amazing cymbals too maybe the best but zildjian is far from sucking my friend

[nuluos9]

agreed

[Ramen1020]

they cant break paistes because most of peistes lines (even their pro ones) are made of b8 bronze which is stronger than b20

[abaddon5]

I don't get how people can break cymbals in the first place. The worst thing I've done to a cymbal was bend up some cheap little Sabian B8 splash.

[Ramen1020]

yea if you have technique you shouldnt break cymbals often (that goes for hard hitters too)

ive had my 14" b8 thin crash for a year and i hit it pretty hard

[flashvideomasta]

I've only broken a K Custom splash due too a crappy production glitch. There was a weakness in the lathing.

[wp08021]

@flashvideomasta

i had something like that with a sabian HH crash, the hammering was off a little, someone did not do there job right

[PaisteMaster1234]

PAISTE IS THE BEST!

[xDrummingPiex]

dude what did u guys cut it out with

[EILIVdrummer]

it sounds almost as good as the original....

[benny704]

you shouldve jsut cut that cracked bit off

or maybe make like a funny shaped cymbal

experimant u no

[abaddon5]

It really degrades the sound if you cut out the cracked part or when you drill the end of the crack.

[bandvideolog]

that's mostly because paiste's cymbal weights differ from other companies. what would be condsidered heavy in the paiste range, would be more like a medium in the zildjian. i've cracked plenty of paiste cymbals as well. 5 infact. whoops.

[thebazooka88]

well, ZBTs are made of B8 which is the same material as 2oo2s and RUDES and GIANT BEATS.

Would you say a K custom or A custom is much more durable than a 2oo2?

If you say no, than you're contradicting yourself, because if materials play that big a role in cymbals durability than a 2oo2 could break just as easily as a ZBT.

[Ramen1020]

i thought i heard somewhere that the beginner cymbals were made to be more durable since they would be played by (obviously) the beginning drummer that would have bad technique.

thats probably why they sound so bad.

either way, all cymbals (with the exeption of thin crashes) should probably last about the same amount of time

[thebazooka88]

no, any cymbals can last years and years without breaking with proper technique.

The material doesnt necessarily make it any less durable.

if you have bad technique an A is just as easy to crack.

[thebazooka88]

wrong. A, K and Zs will break just as easily with bad technique or bad mounting.

ZBTs do sound alot worse, but theyre not any less durable.

[spartany38]

wow that sounds awsome. i did somthing like that with a zbt china.

[pepe7drum]

no man! aint rubbish! i really want to mean that my cymbal broken it was history for me, so im trying to do the zil thing whit it! hehe dont missunderstand me!

[PearlDrummer1977]

rofl its like a K zildjian type cymbal with the dark sound...id buy it lol

[Dontgetclose914]

is that a +44 poster?

[pepe7drum]

oh man ive sabed! i have a 18 inch avediz crash and is destroyed! for me it was rubbish but now i can use it as a zil bel, very good advice! great way to recycle the cymbals!

[WiiMan19952004]

Pinstripes Ftw, help me make fun of those Evans' Sheeps

[cjguth3]

I have the same cymbal and if that ever happens I'll def. do that! Haha thanks

[Craig3786]

we cut it out with tin snips. it took a while so take your time. we filed the edges so it was not so sharp. the end rusult was suprisingly good. i would Definitely recommend doing this.

[Craig3786]

that would sound beast!

[Craig3786]

Im a very hard hitter and when I was hitting it i didnt now how to hit cymbals.

I now know that you swipe the cymbal.