i live in bolton and yep ur right its full of cunts and the lot of them are smack eds living of immoral earnings and basicaly layabouts with nothing else better 2 do than drugs and rob people of the hard earned living they make , the justice system fail us law abiding citizens day in day out if we cant disipline our own children then we dont stand a chance with the scum infested shitole we live in called bolton its a disgrace ................ so well said easanuk !!!!!
@CarpMagic95 Both cities are well known to have high rates of gun crime, Manchester is often referred to as 'Gunchester' because of this. When I said quite a lot, I meant more than people from other countries such as America might believe there to be, as they may think Britain doesn't have any gun crime due to the fact guns are illegal.
@rossy1988h We do,there are plenty.Most are out in the country though,for good reason.I wouldn't put it past local town/city yobbos to constantly try to hold up a gun shop.Also owners of what were inner city gunshops were sick and tired of them getting broken into,also insurance companies started to refuse insurance on these types of risks.There are now more gun shops opening due to gov banning mail order airguns etc. since the 2006 VCRA.
@Flayprime No, it would have happened in the same way. This is a hit-and-run attack. Even if you have all the guns in the world, you can't be on edge 24/7. Once you loosen your guard, they can hit-and-run. The same thing happens in Mexico all the time against police. And police are trained to return fire as quickly as possible. Are you telling me that a civilian that is watching TV in a safe environment and has a shotgun on the table is safer than a cop who is prepared with a pistol in his belt?
@Anandfulness An armed Society is a polite society. That does not stop hit men. Police are big targets for those who would attack them, it's easy too, just find a uniform, do not fling conjecture. This is the way things are. If the guy was armed, as well as the rest of society, He would have probably got sniped. This line of conversation also raises another question, what was he doing to get plugged? Certainly something that was not polite.....
@Anandfulness I do not expect you to understand this statement..... But your prolly delving into some thoughts of government regulation in order to stop that kind of behavior...... "Any nation that would sacrifice freedoms for security has niether." The birth of a nation was formed over that very idea. To live in a community of like minded people is ideal. Enough said. Asked and answered.
@Flayprime Global anarchism and total freedom isn't the answer either. People are too unconscious to be given total freedom. Maybe when we all have more wisdom, compassion and love, then you can talk about giving the people absolute freedom. But for now, I am pro-regulation, pro-government. I recognize the faults in government but as long as the basic conditions aren't met, we aren't ready. But don't worry, a more enlightened society will come eventually, then you will have nothing to shoot.
@Anandfulness Regulation is a socialist concept. The very notion that freedoms should not be given due the factors that people are "unconscious" is a repugnant contrivation of control and ideological perversion. I will remind you that times have got top be right for a dictator to come to power. Freedom does not mean anarchy, and regulations on a populace do not mean freedom. There are no absolutes to the "Rule of Law," yet there is right and wrong within any given society.
@Flayprime And these rights and wrongs need to be enforced. The government needs to have the ''monopoly of violence'' otherwise you will get anarchy whether you like it or not. That said, I am for democracy off course. But you can't say that the people will know what to do. That is just too idealistic. If you only look at what we have done to our environment then you have to agree with me that government is the only thing that stands between us and total pollution.
@Anandfulness There is no monopoly on violance except when used in combat arms. Controled use of force is acceptable in both the UK and USA. This is why police have light, intermediate, and heavy weapons. When someone acts a fool, they get what they get. That does not mean just cause they have an unfair advantage they have a monopoly of violance, it means they have an advantage to maintain order. Anarchy is a complete state of lawlessness, that can never exsist for long there after a breakdown.
Monopoly of violence -> Max Weber's philosophy of law. The police and the military are the state's main instruments, the private force ( private security) can be used too, as long as it has legitimacy derived from the state. All such "functional" states function by reproducing the forms of violence that sustain existing social power relationships, and suppressing the forms of violence that threaten to disrupt them. States with unregulated militia are not stable -> Anarchy.
@Anandfulness I do not see how a private security force or any police agency can be construed as an unregulated militia.... Perhaps your dabbling in alternate definitions. Within the USA, Unregulated Militiamen are completely unorganized and maintain no rolls or established guidelines other than supporting the US Constitution and maintaining the law when asked by the local sheriff. Police ALWAYS operate under state mandate, most have charters, and regulate themselves. Security is different...
@Anandfulness .. Max Weber is a nutcase by all acounts from sgtaff at the Uof Chicago. His "Theory" was a nice publication, just like Carl Marx.... Webers definitions were enough to set off anyone with a brain. Such generalizations in subject material are vulger and repugnant. While he mirrored many sociologists rhetoric in normal teaching, he elaborated on stuff that only a minion would suckle. If one of your teachers turned you onto that asshole, I would get another teacher.
@Flayprime This is exactly what I was expecting from a pseudo youtube-intellectual. If you don't study Weber's theories, you're not going to get far in understanding how governments (or in that case, any social structures) work. His theories on bureaucracy and the sociology of religion are MUST READS for anyone. Without Weber there wouldn't be any ''critical theory''. So please, shut up. You already misunderstood what I was saying about unregulated militia, keep your nose out of this one plz.
@Anandfulness Critical theory is not applicable knowledge. You can have all the knowledge you want but in truth... and reality it's entirely different. As far as being pseudo-intellectual. I never claimed to be, but your elevated anus seems to have your ass on your shoulders over an idea tha you vow is truth. Will you associate yourself with a mere concept or will you just be yourself? ::cracks ego whip:: Freedom of expression biatch! Oh and... That'll be the first ammendment. Limey fcuk. ;)
@Anandfulness Your posture promotes more of a digrssion towards some rhetorical passive reasoning. You are not right, your subscription to false doctrines and teachings of what you think you know, is information that is just not so. Things are a bit dense "over there," but I advise you to keep your mock philosophies to the marginal masses that allow and confide in the type of BS your fed. Truth is relative. Get over it.
@Flayprime ''Truth is relative.'' So you are absolutely sure that there is no absolute truth? Logic is nowhere to be found.
Why are you so defensive when I brought up Max Weber? He has some brilliant works. Off course, you need to read them in their context and in their time but some of his theories still apply to modern governments. Like I said, Max Weber, Karl Marx, you don't need to agree with them but you ABSOLUTELY need to recognize them as great thinkers and use their knowledge wisely.
@Anandfulness Recognizing a great thinker who thinks about things that are just not so. Why would someone recognize a fool? Only to point out their foolishness. Applicable knowledge is the only knowledge in which we can proceed through our lives. Anything else is superfluous garbage. Your defense of the falacy in thier theory creates a false sense of power in your self righteousness. Relativity of truth is not entirely based on logic. However I will say that Carol taught about what I propose.
@Flayprime All knowledge is applicable. There is no such thing as inapplicable knowledge. There are theories and those theories bring forth further research which bring forth your so called applicable knowledge. Without the great thinkers we wouldn't have a democracy, without great dreamers we wouldn't have airplanes or cars. I feel like a botanist talking to a farmer. How would farmers have done if it wasn't for the people that actually studied the soil and it's properties?
@Anandfulness So the flat earth theory was applicable? Was Copernicus wrong? Certainly those ideas can be applied. In truth they are not. As far as application, botanists know little of manual labor or milking cows. Sure, they can cite the latin names of plants what type of root structure they have and how to cross polinate plants for better yield (subspecialized botanists), But generally, they could not know all there is to know about farming. Perhaps you should articulate a bit better.
@Anandfulness Weber was wrong on many points, like I said before. Staffers at Uof Chicago said he was nuts. I happen to live outside of Chicago so i have a clue as to some of the studies he conducted, by the way... some of his findings were applied to the city of Chicago and they did not work. Things just got worse. They were applied even more in Saint Louis, I have also lived there. City planners and law makers made huge mistakes on applying his theory. That is my case in point.
@Anandfulness good points, like your analysis but cant be arsed reading the whole convo between you 2 faggots...u both troll each other good shit......but fools are the new free thinkers.....david ickes face is foolish but then again so is my existence....
Is this in England ?
Vietboy1st 1 week ago
@Vietboy1st Yes.
KeiranHD 2 days ago
racist pigs
sadataef 1 week ago
once you let paki pond life in they infest the area
turksmikey 3 weeks ago
white bastards
husslaa786 1 month ago
@slashpr1suwooo
ians672 1 month ago
pakis cant ride bikes n the wrist to skinny 2 fire a hand ting
slashpr1suwooo 1 month ago
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mirpurkigaand 4 weeks ago
as long as it was an asian, i dont really give a shit
FockYouIFication 1 month ago
@FockYouIFication I;me not a racist but your a white cunt?
123mrtarzan 1 month ago
AMIR KHAN GOT ROBBED, THIS WAS HIS REVENGE
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netcoolro 2 months ago
i live in bolton and yep ur right its full of cunts and the lot of them are smack eds living of immoral earnings and basicaly layabouts with nothing else better 2 do than drugs and rob people of the hard earned living they make , the justice system fail us law abiding citizens day in day out if we cant disipline our own children then we dont stand a chance with the scum infested shitole we live in called bolton its a disgrace ................ so well said easanuk !!!!!
mph197041 2 months ago 10
guns in the uk?
Dancing88Mike 3 months ago
@Dancing88Mike There's quite a lot of gun crime in the UK, especially in Manchester and Glasgow
MattQ94 3 months ago
@MattQ94 You say quite alot but what are you comparing that to in order to say, quite alot? Or is it just your opinion on what quite alot is?
CarpMagic95 2 months ago
@CarpMagic95 Both cities are well known to have high rates of gun crime, Manchester is often referred to as 'Gunchester' because of this. When I said quite a lot, I meant more than people from other countries such as America might believe there to be, as they may think Britain doesn't have any gun crime due to the fact guns are illegal.
MattQ94 2 months ago
@Dancing88Mike lots of guns in the uk. only difference is we dont have gun shops
rossy1988h 2 months ago
@rossy1988h We do,there are plenty.Most are out in the country though,for good reason.I wouldn't put it past local town/city yobbos to constantly try to hold up a gun shop.Also owners of what were inner city gunshops were sick and tired of them getting broken into,also insurance companies started to refuse insurance on these types of risks.There are now more gun shops opening due to gov banning mail order airguns etc. since the 2006 VCRA.
silver760 2 months ago
Greater manchester : The most scummiest place in the north ..
CHRISIDDON17 3 months ago
@MegaSweeneyman Either you're joking, or you've not been to Bolton recently. About 40% of the town centre is full of Asians
MattQ94 4 months ago
@MattQ94 i always go to town , its soo dead i hardly see any asians
maliktary 3 months ago
@TheKin64 white asshloe again you
turnfootsherlock 4 months ago
Bolton... what a diseased ridden, cunt infested shit hole
estanuk 6 months ago 28
@estanuk back at you as I'm from Bolton and actually I came out just fine. Not all dicks come from Bolton.
techyknowsbest 4 months ago
@techyknowsbest Maybe so, but Bolton is still a fucking toilet lol
estanuk 4 months ago
@estanuk
cheeky fuckbag this kind of thing never happens in bolton! whoever did it was probably not from the area
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@estanuk and what majestic place do you hail from u fucking cunt
ItzShotGun 2 months ago
@techyknowsbest lol
Jmagok 4 months ago
@estanuk they're called humans
IntergalacticGnome 3 months ago
@IntergalacticGnome fail much?
estanuk 3 months ago
@estanuk
Was there any need?
FamousPixels 2 months ago
@estanuk and what majestic place do you hail from u fucking cunt
ItzShotGun 2 months ago
i think that was big bird and gonzo...
MrJuide 6 months ago
@TheKin64 Why can't we deport them~?
mellowNdark 6 months ago
proper gangster bolton is like
grantisbwfc 9 months ago
DID THEY DIEDED?
sh4p3shifter 1 year ago
Well, if everyone was armed chances are that would not have happened, not just like that anyhow.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime if everyone was armed life would be a big game of call of duty 4 lol
Chazer78 1 year ago
@Flayprime No, it would have happened in the same way. This is a hit-and-run attack. Even if you have all the guns in the world, you can't be on edge 24/7. Once you loosen your guard, they can hit-and-run. The same thing happens in Mexico all the time against police. And police are trained to return fire as quickly as possible. Are you telling me that a civilian that is watching TV in a safe environment and has a shotgun on the table is safer than a cop who is prepared with a pistol in his belt?
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness An armed Society is a polite society. That does not stop hit men. Police are big targets for those who would attack them, it's easy too, just find a uniform, do not fling conjecture. This is the way things are. If the guy was armed, as well as the rest of society, He would have probably got sniped. This line of conversation also raises another question, what was he doing to get plugged? Certainly something that was not polite.....
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprim "what was he doing to get plugged? Certainly something that was not polite....."
Excellent point raised.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness I do not expect you to understand this statement..... But your prolly delving into some thoughts of government regulation in order to stop that kind of behavior...... "Any nation that would sacrifice freedoms for security has niether." The birth of a nation was formed over that very idea. To live in a community of like minded people is ideal. Enough said. Asked and answered.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime Global anarchism and total freedom isn't the answer either. People are too unconscious to be given total freedom. Maybe when we all have more wisdom, compassion and love, then you can talk about giving the people absolute freedom. But for now, I am pro-regulation, pro-government. I recognize the faults in government but as long as the basic conditions aren't met, we aren't ready. But don't worry, a more enlightened society will come eventually, then you will have nothing to shoot.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness Regulation is a socialist concept. The very notion that freedoms should not be given due the factors that people are "unconscious" is a repugnant contrivation of control and ideological perversion. I will remind you that times have got top be right for a dictator to come to power. Freedom does not mean anarchy, and regulations on a populace do not mean freedom. There are no absolutes to the "Rule of Law," yet there is right and wrong within any given society.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime And these rights and wrongs need to be enforced. The government needs to have the ''monopoly of violence'' otherwise you will get anarchy whether you like it or not. That said, I am for democracy off course. But you can't say that the people will know what to do. That is just too idealistic. If you only look at what we have done to our environment then you have to agree with me that government is the only thing that stands between us and total pollution.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness There is no monopoly on violance except when used in combat arms. Controled use of force is acceptable in both the UK and USA. This is why police have light, intermediate, and heavy weapons. When someone acts a fool, they get what they get. That does not mean just cause they have an unfair advantage they have a monopoly of violance, it means they have an advantage to maintain order. Anarchy is a complete state of lawlessness, that can never exsist for long there after a breakdown.
Flayprime 1 year ago
Monopoly of violence -> Max Weber's philosophy of law. The police and the military are the state's main instruments, the private force ( private security) can be used too, as long as it has legitimacy derived from the state. All such "functional" states function by reproducing the forms of violence that sustain existing social power relationships, and suppressing the forms of violence that threaten to disrupt them. States with unregulated militia are not stable -> Anarchy.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness I do not see how a private security force or any police agency can be construed as an unregulated militia.... Perhaps your dabbling in alternate definitions. Within the USA, Unregulated Militiamen are completely unorganized and maintain no rolls or established guidelines other than supporting the US Constitution and maintaining the law when asked by the local sheriff. Police ALWAYS operate under state mandate, most have charters, and regulate themselves. Security is different...
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Anandfulness .. Max Weber is a nutcase by all acounts from sgtaff at the Uof Chicago. His "Theory" was a nice publication, just like Carl Marx.... Webers definitions were enough to set off anyone with a brain. Such generalizations in subject material are vulger and repugnant. While he mirrored many sociologists rhetoric in normal teaching, he elaborated on stuff that only a minion would suckle. If one of your teachers turned you onto that asshole, I would get another teacher.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime This is exactly what I was expecting from a pseudo youtube-intellectual. If you don't study Weber's theories, you're not going to get far in understanding how governments (or in that case, any social structures) work. His theories on bureaucracy and the sociology of religion are MUST READS for anyone. Without Weber there wouldn't be any ''critical theory''. So please, shut up. You already misunderstood what I was saying about unregulated militia, keep your nose out of this one plz.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness Critical theory is not applicable knowledge. You can have all the knowledge you want but in truth... and reality it's entirely different. As far as being pseudo-intellectual. I never claimed to be, but your elevated anus seems to have your ass on your shoulders over an idea tha you vow is truth. Will you associate yourself with a mere concept or will you just be yourself? ::cracks ego whip:: Freedom of expression biatch! Oh and... That'll be the first ammendment. Limey fcuk. ;)
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime I rest my case
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness Your posture promotes more of a digrssion towards some rhetorical passive reasoning. You are not right, your subscription to false doctrines and teachings of what you think you know, is information that is just not so. Things are a bit dense "over there," but I advise you to keep your mock philosophies to the marginal masses that allow and confide in the type of BS your fed. Truth is relative. Get over it.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime ''Truth is relative.'' So you are absolutely sure that there is no absolute truth? Logic is nowhere to be found.
Why are you so defensive when I brought up Max Weber? He has some brilliant works. Off course, you need to read them in their context and in their time but some of his theories still apply to modern governments. Like I said, Max Weber, Karl Marx, you don't need to agree with them but you ABSOLUTELY need to recognize them as great thinkers and use their knowledge wisely.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness Recognizing a great thinker who thinks about things that are just not so. Why would someone recognize a fool? Only to point out their foolishness. Applicable knowledge is the only knowledge in which we can proceed through our lives. Anything else is superfluous garbage. Your defense of the falacy in thier theory creates a false sense of power in your self righteousness. Relativity of truth is not entirely based on logic. However I will say that Carol taught about what I propose.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Flayprime All knowledge is applicable. There is no such thing as inapplicable knowledge. There are theories and those theories bring forth further research which bring forth your so called applicable knowledge. Without the great thinkers we wouldn't have a democracy, without great dreamers we wouldn't have airplanes or cars. I feel like a botanist talking to a farmer. How would farmers have done if it wasn't for the people that actually studied the soil and it's properties?
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness So the flat earth theory was applicable? Was Copernicus wrong? Certainly those ideas can be applied. In truth they are not. As far as application, botanists know little of manual labor or milking cows. Sure, they can cite the latin names of plants what type of root structure they have and how to cross polinate plants for better yield (subspecialized botanists), But generally, they could not know all there is to know about farming. Perhaps you should articulate a bit better.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Anandfulness Weber was wrong on many points, like I said before. Staffers at Uof Chicago said he was nuts. I happen to live outside of Chicago so i have a clue as to some of the studies he conducted, by the way... some of his findings were applied to the city of Chicago and they did not work. Things just got worse. They were applied even more in Saint Louis, I have also lived there. City planners and law makers made huge mistakes on applying his theory. That is my case in point.
Flayprime 1 year ago
@Anandfulness good points, like your analysis but cant be arsed reading the whole convo between you 2 faggots...u both troll each other good shit......but fools are the new free thinkers.....david ickes face is foolish but then again so is my existence....
OldDirtyRetard 11 months ago
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bigeup187 1 year ago
did anyone get injured
coasterrick 1 year ago
that is naughty
BingobONGOyesyo 1 year ago
Anyone knows anything please let me or the police know!!..
princessjennie0708 1 year ago