Ableton Tutorials Week 5: DJing w/ Live - Warping + (Salva & St. Andrew)

[Dreadfun1k]

Been using live for a few years, and never knew about the "warp from here at XXX BPM." Such a time saver!!!!

[cuervacho]

I wish I had the money to enter your online courses!

Great video. Thanks!

[wgasa]

This is the BEST warping & DJ tutorial out there. Thanks.

[FatCash123]

Very Good one! Thank you!

[FatCash123]

Very Good one! Thank you!



[DJStickyFusion]

I like this video but or DJing and performing I have never heard Complex was preferred. I can hear a huge degredation in sound quality in using Complex mode...how do you get around that?

[snalepa]

@DJStickyFusion There's also Complex Pro. It depends on how much you are stretching the song. If you use repitch it will have the best quality but the pitch will change, and if you are looking to match keys, it might end up somewhere in between and be hard to match.

[DanielGrozier]

great tips

[iAmFractalSky]

- dang that aggrevating that it doesnt save the tempo change in the clip.. it becomes QUITE confusing and a bit frustrating.. unless im doing it wrong?

[iAmFractalSky]

hey dubspot gotta quick question, When i drag the audio into the arrangement view and initiate the tempo change; ill drag it back into the session view but im not capturing the tempo change when i play the clip.. whats am i missing here? -thnks

[KeenBean42]

Great video!

Nothing i hadn't figured out by now, but it should be helpful to a lot of people getting into mixing with Ableton.

[snalepa]

@bathinthefountain A master tempo is like the Highlander, there can be only one. It is like that in every program btw. The purpose of this example was to show how Live lets you rename the scene to a bpm. In the example, the Salva track is 150bpm and definitely not dubstep, and I wouldn't slow it down because it functions differently at 140. Thus, you can trigger the row and change the tempo at the same time to preserve the original tempo.

[bathinthefountain]

so much bullshit. if you DJ with ableton you have the unique awesomeness of having one master BPM. if you DJ dubstep, the temporange is between 130 & 150 bpm, so why not go with 140?

[3S0JJD]

I don't know, isn't DJing with something like Traktor more dynamic? I mean, I can use effects on the fly among other things. Isn't DJing with ableton more like automating everything? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[snalepa]

@3S0JJD I primarily use Ableton to DJ/perform my own productions. There's a lot of other options out there for doing a traditional DJ set, but I love Live's ability to add effects, the simplicity of the MIDI mapping, and the quantization feature. It really depends on your own unique needs for a particular performance. I know a lot of people use Ableton for creating a DJ mix, though maybe they DJ out in clubs with another app. Using Ableton for Live performance can be very dynamic, many ppl do it

[sheepybreaker]

@3S0JJD Yea I recently switched from Ableton to Tracktor, Dont get me wrong live is an awesome program and has a lot of capabilities but I find it more useful to produce with, where as Traktor seems to be more accurate and efficient on many different levels, I do with ableton went with traktor instead of Scratch for the whole bridge concept

[KeenBean42]

@3S0JJD Over all, Ableton gives more options than Traktor, especially with a good controller such as the APC40. There's a lot more flexibility with effects, timing, etc. For instance, you can create your own effect racks with as many of Ableton's fx + VST plugins as you desire, then assign parameters to the 8 macro knobs. Each knob can control multiple parameters, and you can set the exact range of each control! (Also, automation is used when arranging a dj mix, not usually used in performance.)

[KeenBean42]

@KeenBean42 That said, Traktor is still great software, and is well sufficient for doing a traditional set. It's definitely a personal preference!

[sonofdasea]

@3S0JJD no, i use ableton. depending on your contollers, you can do tons of effects on the fly. i dont do any automation and i use an apc40 and an ipad and a djm800

[altron64]

@3S0JJD Ableton can do anything Traktor can do. As well as making your own effects instead of using only what effects come with the program. You dont have to automate anything, you could just map the master tempo to a fader, and control tempo in realtime. Also Ableton Live can actually be used in sync with Traktor to use both programs at once. Another plus to using Live is that you have as many decks as you want, rather than being stuck with 2-6 decks in Traktor. Both are very good programs.

[neopandorex2]

@3S0JJD try to find a lunice live set.. tell me if its static ;)

its like everything, no matter what it allows u to do, its your role to push it to the next level

[jdelsohn]

@3S0JJD your wrong



[Discchord]

Doesn't it make more sense to do the set 1.1.1 before doing the warp from? Also put a limiter on your master, Professor, you were clipping badly when both tracks were playing.

[BLAZE45]

@Discchord THE LIMITER IS THE DEVIL LOL

[lonelywolfy]

@Discchord the point wasnt whether he was clipping or not the point was about warp markers and other things when youre djing

[snalepa]

@Discchord Either order works fine, figure out a process that works best for you. Just showing one example of how to do it, a shortcut I use. Also, at 8:30 I made the point about keeping an eye on your levels and adjusted the volume accordingly, brought both tracks down 6dbs. Limiters are nice because they set an upper limit, but if you are playing back already mastered/compressed tracks, they can end up sounding overcompressed, so use your discretion.

[Discchord]

@snalepa Thanks for the reply. After some playing around with it on my end I was having a very hard time determining if the order made any amount of difference in accuracy. I tried several different songs (of different genres and eras) and while in each instance the order did make a big difference in where the warp markers ended up, it was unclear to me which drifted less. I wonder if you or anyone at DubStep would care to explore wtf Ableton is actually doing in a future video on the subject?

[1DENVERMARK]

THANK YOU SIR . MORE KNOWLEDGE PLEASE



[loczster]

the best tut out there..nice

[djeddienet]

Great Tutorial thxs alot,

[Towly263]

thx!some nice tips there..

[novo740]

Damn good tut! Only thing is, what if you want to change tempo in a live situation on the fly type thing? Does it have to be pre-prepared or would you just MIDI assign the tempo?

[marxdrive]

@novo740.... yes mate, you assign midi controller to tempo and the nudges. Personally I found all the setting of markers annoying and very time consuming compared to Traktor...Especially if you have hundreds of mp3s

[novo740]

@marxdrive That is what I was hoping the case wouldn't be lol, yeah warping tracks manually is pretty time consuming alright

[snalepa]

@marxdrive This is in fact true, it can be time consuming. I knew some high profile DJs back in the day who actually hired people to warp tracks for them. I mean, I've seen people do amazing DJ sets with Ableton. I primarily use it for performing my own productions, the effects are great. At the end of the day, every artist needs to take a look at how they do things and decide what are the right tools for the job.

[snalepa]

@novo740 One technique I use is to click your mouse on the Tempo box, then hit the down (or up) arrow on your typing keyboard in time with the beat, this will change the tempo one bpm at a time, so you can smoothly change it up to get to where you need to go. You can also map a knob, but I'd definitely recommend defining the range of that knob so that a little turn doesn't lead to a huge change in bpm, it can be very jarring.

[ClubdunnyTv]

I dont understand how you dj in live you got any sets ? what makes it soo special ?

[snalepa]

@ClubdunnyTv Being able to freak out your tracks in real time by MIDI mapping the powerful effects in live, as well as all the VSTs available. That would be my short answer. The fluidity, the flexibility and the fun of it all.

[ClubdunnyTv]

@snalepa can you send me a link to a ableton mix then i

[TheSpambomber]

amazing tutorial as always thank you so much

[colbertvp]

YES a dubspot warping tutorial

thank you!