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  • The deadly wound by the sword (war) and did live is talking about the Nazi's. That,. as of this day, are on the rise with national socialism and the swastika is coming back. Look into the Denver Airport.

  • All wrong - denying the power of the Gospel, the power of God's word through prophecy...denies the renewal of the earth at judgement, denies Paul who said the the judgement won't come until the man of sin is revealed...more false teachings...and this is why America will be judged because it is the source of confusion and not truth. America is judged because those who call themselves Christians are faithless...fulfilling the Lord's prediction of the false brethren of America

  • And, John reclined himself on Jesus... the opposite of Jerusalem leaning on Rome.

    I think you're absolutely right....

  • try this one on for size

    The Greek name for rome was

    Ἡ Λατινη βασιλεια

    The greek number of this name is χξς

    The Arabic symbol for this number is 666

  • There are those who claim they know me yet I know them not. In those days there will be a vail over the eyes of the wicked. Who's hearts are waxed cold. They shall look for the truth and find it not. Be wary of those who speak half truths for they will deceive many for theirs are the interpretations of fools who know not the truth. There hearts know truth yet they careth not and are workers of iniquity Be true to yourself and to others. Walk in Truth and SEE all before thee. SEEK Truth in Light

  • @iOpener89 its rome trying to make the islamic the bad guys.

  • Does Jerusalem fit all the criteria of the biblical harlot? E.g does it hold a golden religious cup full of abominations in one of its hands? If yes, what's it (with unequivocal references)? Also does Judaism hold sway in all the nations of the Earth including fundamentalist Islamic nations & dominating their kings? All these aint likely. The RCC is the only 'church' that fulfills all these criteria historically & even doctrinally today as well. It started from early apostasy (grievous wolves).

  • @7olusegun The prophecy was about Israel, the Roman Empire and the Christians during the first century. The Bible is telling us God was dealing with these nations as he was punishing Israel for killing the prophets and Jesus Christ and using the Roman army to destroy the once chosen people. Judaism holding sway throughout the land simply refers to the old sacrificial system which was practiced and enforced throughout the 10 tribes of Israel. Islam was not in view in this prophecy.

  • The woman is Jerusalem and the Jews. She is a Whore from sexual immorality. The sexual immorality is spiritual by denying and killing the prophets, Jesus and turning from God. How can people or nations commit spiritual adultery against God in the first century when they didn't exist then? How can Rome commit spiritual adultery against God when they were never his spiritual bride to begin with? It is more than obvious it is Jerusalem and the Jews.

  • God Bless you Peter, I think you are in a half-truth, and I contribute the remaining half. It is true that Israel as a nation can only adulterate against the true God, as he did according to the books of major and minor prophets. But today it is difficult to apply this description to the modern state of Israel. And his religious past adultery, were taken in the form of sin to the land of Shinar (Zechariah 5:5-11)

  • @PeterCornstalk jews and the muslims are the national enemy put forth by the united states. The Jews are gods chosen people. theres the bride of christ( the church) and the harlot ( the abomination) The vatican is the smallest yet richest state on earth. not to mention their domination of the school board. and the book of revelation is an endtime prophetic book. sunday worship? Infant Baptism? the papacy? the jews kept gods commandments, the catholics changed them.

  • i think you are a catholic and you are serving the pope! you do this to twist minds! the pope is the antichrist! read the bible carefully sir...

  • @pemski2001 If you let the Bible speak, you will learn that antichrist does not refer to a single individual. In Paul's day, so many antichrist already existed just as Jesus prophesied before the fall of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. They tried to deceive the people claiming that they were the Christ. So antichrist actually refers to anyone who claims to be Jesus Christ when in reality he is not. Does the pope claim to be Jesus Christ? I haven't heard of any pope who claimed to be Christ.

  • i disagree with you sir... the mother of harlots is the vatican

  • the woman on the beast is the Vatican City!!!!!

  • How do you get this from the context of Revelation?

    John is writing to seven churches in the first century about events that must shortly take place ... in the Middle Ages?

  • Those who bless Israel shall be blessed, those who curse Israel shall be cursed. This is nothing more than racist hatred of Israel and replacementism. He should check Romans 9 to 11 which talks of the blessings we can receive from the jewish acceptance of our messiah

  • Actually he has deliberately left out important text from Zechariah 12:10 which is what a lot of biassed preachers do and highlights his suspicious intentions. He omits the 1st part of verse 10 which reads "And I will pour out a spirit of compassion and supplication upon the house of David and inhabitants of Jerusalem......... This talks about national repentance NOT judgement. Therefore Jerusalem is NOT Babylon

  • Maybe you mean "on something" like drugs. He is hallucinating what the Word of God says or deliberately ommitting important text. he quotes part of Zechariah 12 but not the whole verse. The part he leaves out is VERY revealing which is "and I will pour out on the house of Israel a spirit of compassion and supplication". This comes before the looking on the one they have pierced. In other words, the mourning refers to national repentance NOT judgement

  • I think this guy is on to something.

  • Mr. narrator; no sir. The woman sitting on the beast is the religious part of Rome (i.e. the Roman Catholic Church, which fufilled all the criteria of the woman's evil properties via the popes of Rome) while the 'beast' itself is the geo-political component of Rome. Historically and biblically these tie together seamlessly.

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  • Just read the Old Testament. Jeremiah for instance.

  • In the Tanakh, Israel was at times called a "Harlot" yes, but never "Mother of Harlots" -meaning she has had to create false religions to cause people to be drunk off her fornication.

    Roman Catholicism has branched out many denominations in Christianity, also Freemasonry and even Islam.

    Israel has only Judaism and Kabbala.

  • I always thought it was Luther and Calvin who spawned multiple fake churches. But why have none of you people heard of the Orthodox church that Rome changed the creed and split from? What about the really weird oldest churches of all, the Coptic, Syriac-Indian and Armenian 'Oriental Orthodox' that the 'Eastern Orthodox' Greek and later Russian split from?

  • @theheat151 John's audience would have had no knowledge of the Roman Catholic Church. That doesn't make sense in context.

  • Wrong! Oh well, He was so close. The harlot is the catholic church, her children are all of the churches that are out here decieving Many! Beware of mans religions.

  • If the Roman Catholic Church in in the book of Revelation then how do you interpret Revelation 1:1?

  • Revelation is not just about past, present, and future. It means a revealing. Man has always thought they had an understanding of Gods Word.

    Heres one for example, Jesus turned the water into wine, Have you ever saw the meaning of that parable?

    Yes parable. no one ever talks about it, because most people only know what man says the Bible means! Theres alot more. Peace

  • a better translation than the one your probably reading is "...god gave him to show his servants what has to take place with speed..."

    Besides the beast (roman catholic church) isnt the first thing that happens in revelation. for example, the white horseman with a bow and a crown was likely the cretan emperors (In my opinion)

  • I don't understand in the head wound part. Didn't he say that the Beast is Nero not a political organization etc but when Rome carries on after Nero's death and the world is amazed at that.Isn't he calling the Roman Empire the Beast by saying that? Am I missing something? Because Nero wasn't revived,the empire was. Or am I wrong?

  • Side note: Handydude is right about the existence of CIA mind control programs. It's well documented and acknowledged by the government.

    Projects PAPERCLIP and MKULTRA subjected thousands of innocent persons to horrific mental experimentation.

  • This is THE most deceiving interpretation of the WORD I have ever heard. I would suggest the speaker go to a CIA mental ward; to get his brain wiped clean, then never touch the subject again. The Beast is Rome, the woman riding the beast is the Roman Catholic Church, the mother of Harlots, because they do not keep the Commandments of Yahweh.

  • The question is: How do you know of such CIA mental wards -- and if people had their memories wiped clean, how would they even remember having been there?

    The Beast IS Rome of the first century and the woman is the city of Jerusalem and those Jews who rejected Christ.

  • After the 10 tribes and then the two tribes were carried off, they were to be ruled by four horns. These were the four horns of the alter that blood was wiped on. Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and then Rome. Jerusalem never controlled Rome! The Papacy controls the whole earth right now. Bush kisses his ring, as a sign to the Popes authority. All the world leaders of the earth are Masonic Freemasons from one Secret Society or another, which were created by the Jesuits, and they all kiss the ring.

  • What if the False Prophet is a false Catholic and the Anti-Christ is a False Jew?

  • the ppl who wanted Jesus dead believed He would say blasphemies, they didn't believe He was the son of God, it's why they wanted Him dead....so the harlot has names of blasphemies, so how can this be that jerusalem be the harlot?

    who were the ones that crucified Him exactly, who did He had to go through wasn't it the roman empire?

    so it was the romans who did all of it, not the ppl of jerusalem, they were ignorant and followed what the priests said and by that time the priests were corrupt

  • this makes no sense. it would make more sense that the beast would be the Papal Rome. They persecuted many many many more people than the roman empire and are still very powerful today. and lead people astray with false version of christianity. I kind of doubt the beast was ceasar since he is dead and the world never ended and the great war of armageddon never happened. so some where in your research you made a slight mistake.

  • The "Battle of Armageddon" occurred in 70 AD.

  • @jcr4runner are you mad? the amageddon marks the return of christ.

  • I am not insane, most noble Gordonculp.

  • Sigh. Traditions die hard.

    The Bible doesn't say that the world will end. It says that the age (old covenant, Jewish economy) was to come to an end, but not the world.

  • As in "hyper"-preterism?

  • Whatever you want to call it is fine by me. It's all heresy anyway, right? ;)

  • Is denying a major tenet of every Christian creed in existence heresy?

    "He will come again to judge the living and the dead and His kingdom will have no end."

  • Well, you tell me. Ultimately, do we follow the Bible or the creeds?

  • You follow the Bible and creeds.

    In fact, your statement: "I don't follow creeds!" is a creed.

    Don't tell me you don't follow creeds. The question is: Are your creeds orthodox?

  • Calm down.

    Yes, I affirm 80-90% of the creeds. The only place I differ is with the future coming of Christ, which I place in the past rather than in the future.

  • Don't you find it strange though that the earliest creeds always had this statement?

    "He will come again to judge the living and the dead and His kingdom will have no end."

    They didn't possibly think that it was fulfilled in 70 AD.

    One of the reasons I don't consider the argument of full preterism is that it isn't found except among named heretics in the New Testament, Hymaneaus and so on.

    Is there good proof of a single second century or later Church Father who was a FP?

  • Is the good proof of a single example anywhere at any time that the Jews understood how the Messiah would come about? No. In fact, they all got it wrong which is why they killed Jesus. Sometimes even the LEADERS don't get everything straight. So the standard then is not popular thought amongst leaders but instead biblical accuracy. I don't care if Tertullian said 666 was Alexander the Great. Doesn't make him right because he's of ancient time.

  • Hymaneaus said the physical resurrection had come. Thats' what made him deceiver. Paul said that the spiritual resurrection had already taken place and would continue to. Simply read Galatians 2:20 and Romans 6 just for starters. "Judgment day" in Daniel took place during the Roman empire in 7:10 and then in Revelation 20 why should be any different?

  • ABSOLUTELY DEAD ON!

  • Except that the Holy Roman Empire was not "soon." Also, the "Iron" and "clay" in Daniel 2 represent Rome and Jerusalem. This relationship is also represented as the prostitute and the beast in Rev 17. The beast destroyed the prostitute at the end of the chapter. The prostitute is called the "great city" at the end of the chapter. In Rev 11:8, "the great city" is Jerusalem and has other figurative names that describe it like "Egypt" and "Sodom." (cont.)

  • (cont.) Also, the Jews were the first persecutors of Christians. All Christian martyrs in the bible faced their deaths in Jerusalem. Paul was a major contributor to the deaths of Christians before his conversion. Read Luke 11:47-51!

  • Michaeld7

    Youre on the right track

  • iOpener89

    So are practicing Muslims OK with my belief that Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity and is in His very nature God and not just a lesser Prophet to Mohamed?

  • research the jewish talmud........??????it still presecutes christ TODAY! the koran say his miracles are of god ...the talmud says they were sorcerry....i just learned this! im a 44 year old american....make sence???

  • Reading from a first century mindset makes Revelation lose a lot of the mystery premils have shrouded it in.

  • THE WORLD WONDERED?????????? HMMMM

  • In the ancient world view the Roman Empire was the "whole world."

    In John's thinking and to his hearers, the "whole "world" would not include China, India, Africa, the Americas, etc. since these lands were yet unknown.

  • Luke 2:1 "Now in those days an order was published by Caesar Augustus that the WHOLE WORLD should be registered." HMMM?

  • Exactly. The Roman Empire was registered in a census for the the purpose of pledging allegiance to Caesar.

  • Thank you for posting this. This is an excellent lecture and I'm learning a lot!

  • Me too, I'm not a Preterist but it's interesting.

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