I'm reading Pat Buchanan's book on Hitler and Churchill these days and it seems to be that we in the US have been fighting England's wars time and again. And that British leaders have historically been Sowers of Discord (bound for Hell's Eighth Circle) in Europe in order to prevent a continental power from emerging.
I'm Polish-American so England means nothing to me, neither does Germany nor Russia, but I'd like to see Poles get along with their Teutonic and Slavic neighbors better.
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Pat Buchanan has written that US intervention in WWI led to WWII. Because the US intervened in WWI, Germany was handily defeated and humiliated, prompting the rise and popularity of a figure like Hitler. If the US hadn't intervened, the European powers would have fought to a stalemate in WWI; Germany wouldn't have been humiliated, and Hitler wouldn't have gained power. WWII never would have happened if the US hadn't intervened in WWI.
@xtremejohnny69 Wrong. The Lusitania was a British ship. Furthermore it was sailing in war zone waters and was carrying war munitions. The Germans said before the event that they would torpedo ships in such situations.
@SirTenenbaum Its true but doesn't sinking a ship engaged in trade count as violating neutral rights? I know it was a biritsh ship, but I think it was privately owned and carrying american citizens while also engaged in trade with america.
Violating neutral rights is an act of war.
I'm very interested in etting to the bottom of this so please correct me if I'm wrong.
@SirTenenbaum The Germans were on their knees as it was. Their soldiers had no food, no supplies, they were completely cut off from the rest of the world by the Royal Navy and morale was in the minus figures. The Germans would've surrendered regardless of American intervention. The threat of moblising millions of American troops certainly quickened their decision but didn't decide it for them. WW2 however is a completely different story. The US DID make the difference, that's a certainty
in ww2 we didnt start nation building till after the war in europe.We went to diffrent parts like north africa to italy franch beligumm etc to flush them out same with the pacific
Wow, people should watch this and compare it with today's war problems and the intervention of United Nations with Libya and Obama's crime of going to war without congress approval....its BS! Ron Paul 2012 !
1st of all 911 has been proven by scientists and engineers to be an inside job. OBL had nothing to do with 911. Dr. Steven Jones along with 1400 scientists have conducted experiments at their labs to study the dust that was collected from building 1, 2 and 7. They have found Hi-tech military explosives called Nano-thermite which cave people from M.Est couldn't produce. People with security access could have planned such attack n it involves, Military Ind Comx, Central Bankers, Halliburton etc...
I have an idea what about the rest of the countries with freedom and armies start pulling their weight. It is not the US's job to be the sole fighter of terrorists and dictators. We can't do it by ourselves and caused our government to begin on the dictatorship path. There are those that are using the War on Terrorism to assume control. The rest of the world talks about protecitng freedom and humanity than let's see step it up Lets the African dictators overthrown and the genocide militia killed
One should be aware that the only reason little middle eastern terrorists hate us is because we are the massive, intervening world power which has pretty much taken the place of the European colonial powers who out that region down in the early 20th century. Our own imperialism is our bane.
WWII was merely the inevitable continuation of WWI; in which we had no business interfering. Wilson's actions made WWII a foregone conclusion, the Versailles treaty was both vindictive and fraudulent, making Hitler (or someone like him) inevitable.
Ultimately, World War II served only to determine whether Eastern Europe was controlled by a mass-murderer with a little moustache, or a mass-murderer with a big moustache.
@webfulcrum Your points are quite true, about the two world wars and about the only difference between the size of the moustaches (hilarious and sadly true). But don't give an inch to the warmongers -- whose tactic is to pit us against "supporting the troops" -- by saying your great-uncles died in vain. That generation faced a complete propaganda media with little or no access to information like we have today. They at least died in a constitutional war, against a real (not invented) threat.
@Fighting31406 The key word is "Axis" Not alliance. Hitler, against the advice of his inner circle declared war on America in the belief that the Axis agreement required him to do so. Because the Japanese struck first, he had no such legal burden.
Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda..... I'm German who's family fought the Russians, my Grand mother spent 4yrs of her life captured by Russians from 45 to 49. Fuck Russia. Germany should of only fought Russians. Germans were fighting the WORLD from 41 and on. USA would of had its ass handed to them in early in 39 to 42. Anyways..... Still glad of the outcome in 45 America did it! And we'll do it again sooner or later. Did I express enough that I dislike Russians
Germany was never a Naval power. They couldnt even cross a 22 mile wide channel much less the Atlantic. Lacking amphibious warfare capability, German would have had to establish a beach head in Mexico or South America. The show would have been on the other foot with German convoys getting sunk by American planes, ships, and submarines. The "Real battle" Would not have been against the Germans but Carrier, Battleship, & Submarine Admirals fighting over who would get to sink this round of Germans
Im not sure if im misunderstanding the time frame of your statement, but Germany in around the time of its declaration of war on the US, had a very potent force of u-boats.
I live in Texas, and here they sank many oil tankers as they were leaving port. Many many American sailors died right in our own waters.
Most people think the mainland was never attacked. That's false. It was attacked by the u-boats.
@icwiz A submarine presence does not a threat of invasion make. Yes, they did have U Boats sinking ships off our shore after we were supplying weapons to thier enemy. This is a far cry from a German invasion and ocupation.
Lady Liberty Walks forward, I agree with the caller, stamp out evil were you know were it is! That was the ultimate purpose our country was founded for. Not to be neutral. Kill evil were you find it and let the cream of a nation rise to the top and carry forth freedom for all world wide. PERIOD.
@altops -What evil? Who defines what is evil? Germans were trying to free themselves from jewish cultural and financial domination and protect themselves from jewish communist mass murders. Jewish communist run Soviet Union was mass murdering Russian chrisitians in death camps in the 1920's onward, murdering thousands of Russian Christian priests and buring down thousands of Russian Orthodox churches.
@altops -You claim to be "born again/saved believer", yet you will the ignore the genocide of Russian christians and ukrainian christians, murdered by jewish communists like Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, and Lev Bronstein(Leon Trotsky). You are ignoring the largest mass murder of christians in the history of the world. All you have to do is google "jewish communists yagoda". You are a sick bastard.
@funkybjorn you are a dirissionist You would say lies about me, you have no Idea what I ignore, your pulling lies out of thin air. I know this last century has seen more Christians die for their faith than all the rest of time combined, but if you think I'm going against God, your kidding yourself. the JEWS are Gods chosen people, I will bless them as God commands weather they are the scourge of the earth or not. You are at enmity with God for cursing the Jews. I call any and all Jews my friend.
@altops -You're another American Protestant who has been conned by the Scofield Reference Bible. Talmudic Judaism and Christianity two very different religions. The Jewish holy book the Talmud says that jews hanged jesus and that jesus is boiling in a pot of feces. The Talmud also says that Mary, mother of Jesus, is a whore who had sex with a roman soldier. In Israel, religious students will spit in the face of Christian priests. The New Testament has been burned at an organized rally.
@altops - The Jewish god is a tribal god that Hebrews created for themselves. The "God" that supposedly chose them is their own tribal god. The jewish tribal god is no one elses god. The Christian god and the Jewish god are two very different gods. You are not going against your own Christian god. Your theology sounds like the Scofield Reference Bible footnotes that were inserted into new editions by pro-jewish editors.
@funkybjorn11 All I know is the father of lies is the devil, and you lied in public on me. So you have negative credibility to even speak on the matter to all who see you r lies. You know how I know My Jewish God is the true and correct God? I did what the Bible says do to have peace with God, and my prayers are answered. How you manage to separate Christ from the Jew is beyond common sense , believability, reason, purpose.... You have no grasp on the Bible , what its for and why. God help you
@altops -Christianity is based on the New Testament. Christianity isn't about one ethnic group(Jews). Talmudic Judaism and Christianity are 2 different religions. If you are a christian, you are following a Christian god, not the jewish god. Who is teaching you this strange Judaized Christianity? You didn't address the 2,000 year old jewish hostility towards christianity or the jewish mass murder of christians. Read Israel Shahak's book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion".
@funkybjorn11 It doesn't come close to mattering what the Jews did, not one centilla! God has set aside the Jew, now is the Church age. 2000 Christians doesn't hold a candle to 6 million murdered Jews. You have been corrupted I know because you spew lies on me and on the Bible, thus God.
In the Danzig Corridor, Jews were massacring Ethnic Germans; that didn't happen any more than the Dresden Massacre happened......that is, until David Irving exposed Dresden.
The rest needs to be exposed, and the Israeli EXTORTION ended.
Oh I forgot this brilliantly stupid quote by FDR on Stalin
"I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man. ... I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask for nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace."
That's one blind man with extremely poor judgment. Our civilian leadership and their overarching strategy was dumb dumb dumb.
Russian domination of Eastern Europe and the Iron Curtain is based on a series of strategic mistakes. Russia always wanted all that European land to buffer it against land invasions, but could never get before then. US helped Russia get it.
Blunders like sending in military aid to the Russians, not accepting conditional surrender from Germany where the German army under a non-Nazi regime could continue to fight against USSR, and the Tehran/Yalta/Postdam Conferences.
BUT, then Russia would have gone into Europe after its defeat and we'd now have Russian countries of Germany, Spain, England... Ron Paul would have given Europe to Russia and simply "defended our coast lines.. wow!
There is no proof for this domino theory, where if US does nothing an all-or-nothing result would happen. Either Nazis would completely dominate Europe or USSR would completely dominate Europe. Really??
And US didn't help USSR get half of the European continent??
The tight alliance with Uncle Joe was a huge strategic blunder. Stalin killed several times more civilians than Nazi ever did. Events like Operation Keelhaul make the US-British complicit in their atrocities.
@Pkr Yeah so? After two deployments to Europe, I agree. Why defend a nation against communism when the people try to sabotage our submarine and wave Soviet flags? Having made the mistake of saving Europe from Hitler, we should have given them to Stalin. They would then have had thier socialist paradise 50 years ago.
Germany never had any intentions on the west. When France declared war, it was an unwelcome distraction. If Germany would not have had to fight its western flank, it would have won against Russia.
@Pkr Nothing wrong with that. Two deployments to Europe made an isolationist out of me. People waiving Soviet flags, People trying to sabotage our Sub, Sport divers trying to learn secrets they can give to the Soviets. We SHOULD have given them to Stalin. They would have had their "Socialist paradise" 60 years ago.
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We forget it was the UK and France that declared war on Germany in 1939; the Germans declared war on them only afterward. Had the British and French not done this, it's very unlikely there would have been a war in western Europe. Hitler stated in Mein Kampf that any expansion Germany did in the future should be to the east. Undoubtedly a German-Russian war was inevitable due to both German and Soviet expansionism, but it didn't have to involve western Europe, the UK, or the US.
Seemed to me like the original caller was desperately trying to to prove that Ron Paul is an isolationist and total pacifist, but failed miserable in doing so
It should be known that the only reason we are able to support today's military spending is because of the Federal Reserve - via printing oceans of money - and other countries (e.g. China, Russia, India, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Australia, etc) lending the poor U.S. gov't money. One could argue that today's military is not being paid dollars but Chinese yuan. Remember Rome?
"It's more P.C. to criticize fascism than it is to criticize communism." I've felt this way for quite a while now.
WWII was a replay of WWI. And both WWI and WWII was germinated by the international banking House of Rothschild. Get rid of central banking, get rid of war. War costs lots of money and wars on the scale we've fought can only be financed by fractional-reserve lending.
For the record, once the USA declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the USA. We didn't really have to choose whether to fight Germany or not, Hitler made that a foregone conclusion.
@NSResponder The USSR and England were taking care of hitler. USSR won the European war. Hitler was getting his ass kicked by Stalin. He didn't let up with that campaign and couldn't win. Once he was defeated we should have taken out stalin and helped russia restore proper government. As a result Russians and half of Europe had to wait 50 years to be free again. Because we just rushed in head first and played right into Stalin's hands going through france, leaving eastern europe open to stalin.
@NSResponder And at the same time people like Prescott Bush was funding Hitler through Harriman Brothers bank in Manhattan, Rockefeller was selling Hitler fuel and Henry Ford was selling him trucks. Franklin Roosevelt knew months before Pearl Harbor that an attack there was imminent from intercepted transmissions. Just like LBJ had the USS Liberty shot up by Israeli air force and Robert MacNamara staged the Gulf of Tonkien attack to take the US into Vietnam.
@NSResponder yeah, but you got to admit, japan had it coming for them, they slaughtered china, bombed australia (TWICE), took over the pacific ocean (which is fucking huge), and then bombed pearl harbour. america was the last to join in the pacific war. but what your saying doesn't make sense, america is NOT full of stupid people, the country must have been a fucking idiot if they think germany isn't gonna declare war, what?, you think there just gonna forget about it and let it pass.
@BernieEOD That is true. The number of deaths on his head make 6 million look like nothing. The Bolshevik revolution was basically attempted Genocide.
@BernieEOD Its horrible.. but we cannot completaly blame communism.. considering the failed crops and natural russian cruelty. Russia has always been a cruel land. Still, Stalins Communist government still failed miserably, except maybe the manufactoring increasing.
@rangergxi It is a Lie that Germany was responsible for WW1. Had the USA stayed out of WW1, Europe would have gotten tired of killing each other. Europe created the Nazis, Europe deserved the Nazis. The Isolationiasts were right.
FDR wanted to get into the war. After Versalles, America wanted no part of another war in Europe. The American mentality at the time was "Europe created Hitler, Europe deserved Hitler".
Frustrated with the nations unwillingness to go to war in Europe, FDR was heard to have said "If I cant get into this war on the Atlantic, I'' do it in the Pacific!"
BernieEOD: I don't know, those Yorktown and Hornet and especially Essex class carriers were no joke. They made the decks of the Essex classes with mahogany which wouldn't allow for penetration of over head bombs. That was the elite carrier of the day and the largest. Of course it really turned out that the most important ship of the Pacific war would be a measly troop carrier that was by and large unarmed. All others supported the troop carrier ultimately.
@BernieEOD. The video asked whether the US would have fought in World War II under a Non-Interventionalist foreign policy. The answer is 'yes' because Germany declared war on the US first. I'm responding to the video not the pro-nazi debate.
Had America had a truly non interventionalist policy, Germany would not have declared war nor would Japan have attacked Pearl Harbor. If, after conquering Europe, Hilter set his sights on America, the "Real battle" Would not have been with the Germans but between Battleship Admirals, Carrier Admirals, Submarine Admirals, and Air Force Generals all fighting over who gets to sink this latest German attempt to invade us.
@BernieEOD. We may be playing a semantic game here. Interventionalism would have had the US declaring war on Japan in defense of China or declaring war on Germany in the mid-30s because they were a threat to Europe. The United States WAS a non-interventionalist nation until WWII.
You seem to be equating Non-interventionalism with Isolationism.
Defense of China? I don't think so. Defense of our economic interests? Perhaps. Europe? After what Europe did to Germany at Versalles, the American attitude at the time was "Europe created Hitler, Europe deserved Hitler".
Two Deployment to Europe during my military career made an isolationist out of me. I would have had no problem allowing Stalin to take all of Europe after having been there.
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On a different note, we didn't declared war on Germany in WW2. When we declared war on Japan to retaliate for Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on us because Germany and Japan were in a military alliance. Regardless of whether Paul would have declared war on Germany, when he certainly would have defended us against Japanese military aggression, we would have been brought into war with Germany anyway.
Since 1924, the Dawes Plan flooded Germany with a large amounts of American capital. Rockefeller's National City Bank, STD Oil. Edsel Ford (President of the Ford Motor Co.), On the Board of Directors of this corporation was Edsel Ford (President of the Ford Motor Co.), Charles E. Mitchell (Pres. of National City Bank in NYC), Walter C. Teagle (President of Standard Oil of New York), Paul Warburg (Chairman of the Federal Reserve), and Herman Metz (Director of the Warburg's Bank of Manhattan)
History is replete with examples of countries that projected their military power to other countries. Some attempted to do so indefinitely. Those that did eventually collapsed or retracted because their poulace eventually became overly weary of the whole business. And of the latter, many became victims of agressors because they had lost heart to even defend themselves.
Had we gone in significantly earlier, it's a certainty that Hitler would have recognized that he could not commit half of Germany to fight the Russians, and the other half to fight the English and the Americans. He would have compromised on the Russian front. The Americans entering in early would have not had the capacity of ships and planes that we had by postponing, so we would have faced the full might of the german army, with significantly fewer resources.
The people who profit from war are merchants, bankers and industrialists working with militarists and scientists-"defending" a nation has more to do with these people's agendas than any love of a nation-"the state" or "the nation" is a front for the people making money off the resources in the area- The Japanese navy was built using US iron. US Bankers, including Prescott Bush, funded the re-emergence of a broke 1930s Germany . War usually means arm your enemy then goad him into attacking you
Oi, SA, there's one easy solution to the WW2 and Ron Paul problem. Paul would have retaliated against Japan, no question. The solution is inherent in the fact that Japan and Germany (and Italy) had an alliance. When American declared war on Japan, Germany and Italy declared war on America.
No doubt you are right but we all know that Rosevelt was wanting to jump into the war in Europe long before 12/07/43. There is even the theory he knew about the Jap plan prior to the attack in order to be able to get into the war in Europe due to exactly what your saying.
he did knew it is confirmed.many many more leaders did.Nero hitler himself and 1 modern 1.i let u geuss and i give 1 hint.9/11 he knew about it 1 year before. :( he is just pure evil
Dallenor: I was doing a little research last night on the Dec. 7, 1941 attack at Pearl. As insensitive as it is to say this with regards to the American military personel that lost their lives that day, the truth is, in some ways it seems to me the Japs did the US Navy a favor at Pearl. For the most part, the ships & planes lost at Pearl were all obsolete and out dated. This includes the many P-40 fighters blown to bits on tarmacs, the USS Arizona and most of the other ships....
.... A consinderable ammount of what was destroyed at Pearl was salvaged and used to build newer and more modern ships/aircraft. Even the turrets were popped off the Arizona for this very purpouse as well as the tower while the rest still remains at the bottom of Pearl to this day. Sounds to me that the US Navy managed to benefit from the vast ammounts of money that was spent on modernizing the fleet, old obsolete ships/planes died for a good cause. I suppose some would say the men did too.
ALL of the Battleships at Pearl Harbor were obsolete rust buckets destined for the scrap heap. All of them were WW1 vintage. Their replacements, the South Dakota, Iowa, and the Kentucky were either in the water or on the building ways.
Even when raised, re furbished, and upgraded, these battleships were considered 2nd rate units.
BernieEOD: Pryor to WWII the battleship had been the ultimate symbol of a super power since the days of the wooden sailing ship. The debate was between having the biggest baddest ship on the seas or having more battleships than any other nation. Pearl Harbor changed that for ever. Just as the atomic bomb roughly 4 years later would once again redefine a super power. The American fleet had nothing that could have been a match for the Bismarc at Pearl nore the Yamamoto class Jap battleship.
Wrong. On December 7, 1941, the South Dakota Class Battleships were already in the water and the Iowa was close to being launched. The Kentucky was ordered as a new "Super Iowa" with a fourth turret. It was alter re ordered as an Iowa class. Iowa would have been more than a match for Bismarc and Yamamoto.
The Montana would have outmatched them. ALL of the Battleships at Pearl Harbor were obsolete WW1 vintage destined for the scrp heap anyway.
As it turned out, even the large carrier was not needed. Had "Taffy 3" Simply had the right ordinance for the job in its magazines, the puny escort carriers would have turned the battle of Leyte Gulf into "The Leyte Gulf massacre"
The problem with the large carrier was that it was too valuable to risk. A little know fact during Guadalcanal was that after the major naval battles, Halsey withdrew and infomormed the Marines "You are authotised to surrender"
Not something the Navy wants to be reminded of. In later battles, the CVE's Remained on station to provide the support needed while the "Real Carriers" ran to safety.
BernieEOD: Ha Ha... I never heard it put like that but sounds fair to me. The CVE was not really introduced untill later in the war was it? Around late 1943? The Lexington and many of the earlier carriers were cruise ships and cargo ships modified to be able to take off, land and store aircraft on right? You do have a point about them being to valuable to risk, especially earlier on in the war.
The Ranger was the first carrier built as one from the Ground up as were the Yorktown, Lexington, Hornet, and Enterprise. Ironically, these carriers were built as part of a Jobs program under the WPA. Since there was a 20 year ban on Battleships but none on carriers. The cargo ships / cruiser hulls built into carriers were the CVE's
BernieEOD: I tip my hat to you, you know your stuff. Have you ever followed the story of the Yamamoto? Not only it's "sea life" but it's construction? "The Anti Battleship Proliferation Treaty" was a hoax that tried to limit the "battleship proliferation" but yet gave special exemptions to the US and Britain. No wonder nobody else took it to seriously. The Yamamoto was built under complete secrecy, no two builders/designers had complete plans to it and the plans were destroyed upon launch.
Not all that much. I can tell you that the Battleships at Pearl Harbor were WW1 vintage ships re built several times over due to the 20 year moratorium on Battlehsip construction. Ironically, this is what led to the development of carriers and their aircraft. The Yamamtos sister ship was sunk by carier planes and Yamamoto withdrew from the onslaught of planes from escor carriers. Had "Taffy 3" Simply had the right ordinance in its magazines, Leyte Gulf would have been a massacre, not a battle.
BernieEOD: Your understanding of Leyte Gulf far surpasses mine. The Yamamoto class battleship was both Japan's pride & joy militarily speaking as well as Japan's achillies heal. The Japanese did assymble the largest and most powerful battleship in history, amazingly fast for it's size as well. But they wasted a tremendous ammount of resources they desperately needed else where on those ships. They probably could have built 3-4 carriers with the resources needed to build one Yamamoto Class BB.
I know the defintion well and I disagree with what you said.
I agree thought we need more liberty, we have been heading towards fascism for a while, but I would not say we are complete fascist or comparable to say Nazi Germany.
I said absolutely nothing about Nazis or Nazism. All Nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are Nazis.
As the identifying characteristic of fascism is the government control of the means of production and we currently have in excess of 70K pages of regulations on business on the books the US is now fully fascist.
Ask around. See how many people agree that government should control business.
technically thats correct, but self defense is a stretch. they did not attack us and had we not had our ships in that region, would not be defending anything in our interests.
We further need to be open to the idea that we were just one of the belligerents, not a holy warrior.
The United States had essentially been at a state of war with Germany long before the declaration of war, and despite the promises made by Roosevelt, was led by a man who wanted to get involved in what was another European conflict. Completely in contradiction to the will of the Founding Fathers.
there are lots of UN resolutions, i think there is one for Israel back in the sixtys but who cares? either you believe in Globalism and what the Globalists have told everyone about how great things would be or not. we are not in all these countries because we want to protect our allies. its assets we are protecting. one asset is a millitary that needs constant rearmoring and upgrading, who do you suppose profits from that.there is BIG change coming its just been in the works for a long time
The question must be asked, why did Japan attack our navy at Pearl Harbor when they knew they could never win a war with the U.S..
What positive resulted from winning the war.
China fell to the communist resulting in millions killed. All of Eastern Europe fell behind the Iron Curtain. These were the people we were suppose to save. Their liborators were worse than the conquerers.
The US would have intervened in ww2 no Mather how you look at it, just by the fact the Japanese attacked the US,
the Japanese and the Germans had a alliance called the Tripartite Pact so whatever happened the Germans and Italy would have automatically become the enemys
of the US and also the US dearly needed the naval and air forces of England and the Netherlands to face the Japanese Imperial Navy in the early days of the war so they had to make a military pact with England and such
This is ignoring that Japan was occupying a great number of islands in southeast Asia and turned hostile towards the Netherlands and Britain. The oil embargo was called for.
One is forced to ask: What is a viable act of war? If one believes that only attacking first is an act of war then yes, the Japanese started it. On the other hand, if one forward deploys ones fleet to it westernmost base and then makes threats of a naval blockade, then the U.S. commitied the first act of war. Had the Japanese forward deployed thier fleet to thier easternmost base and made the same threats, we would have attacekd first.
What also can not be forgotten is that interventionism helped lead to a climate in Germany that permitted Hitlers rise. Without the Treaty of Versailles decimating the country of Germany after World War I, there would never have been a climate to foster a movement such as Hitlers. Interventionism is not a philosophy that can be used sparingly. It must be cultivated, used throughout time, and built upon. After you begin to intervene with countries, militarily or economically, the dominoes fall.
there are terroists "pirates" too. WEneed to train be vigulant and be diplomatic. WE'VE made some mistakes but don't deleegitimize all the good we've done because of some extortion or mitakes we've made. Saddam was our responsability because after the shah fell CARTER was a puss and refused to recongize and try to call duty the good nations of the world to stop the iatola's insurgency to power. We knew Reza was better for all than the iatola. Instead we backed saddam. Our mess to clean up.
The worlds world warII generation was willing to risk lives and spend money regardless of potential finacial debt or crisis. This generation whines about money and brave lives spent because it is cowardly lazy selfish and spoiled and is kidding it self. Nation building is what Japan the Communists the Faciststs and the Islamists want to do. And the are terrorists "pirate
The other side of the argument and it is legitimate that Saddam Husein was a loose cannon who could have obtained nukes. LOOK IDIOTS Akmenajad is trying to develop them NOW. Saddam would have maybe had the excuse of defending having to defend IRAQ by gaining nukes. And what about prosecution of Sadam's crimes against humanity. CAH! To an honorable world WMDs wouldn't matter.
I'm reading Pat Buchanan's book on Hitler and Churchill these days and it seems to be that we in the US have been fighting England's wars time and again. And that British leaders have historically been Sowers of Discord (bound for Hell's Eighth Circle) in Europe in order to prevent a continental power from emerging.
I'm Polish-American so England means nothing to me, neither does Germany nor Russia, but I'd like to see Poles get along with their Teutonic and Slavic neighbors better.
Torgo1969 7 months ago
"Since when do we take our orders from the UN?" Hell yeah!!!!!
xtremejohnny69 7 months ago
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AmericanValues321 7 months ago
Pat Buchanan has written that US intervention in WWI led to WWII. Because the US intervened in WWI, Germany was handily defeated and humiliated, prompting the rise and popularity of a figure like Hitler. If the US hadn't intervened, the European powers would have fought to a stalemate in WWI; Germany wouldn't have been humiliated, and Hitler wouldn't have gained power. WWII never would have happened if the US hadn't intervened in WWI.
SirTenenbaum 8 months ago 2
@SirTenenbaum We intervened in WW1 because of the sinking of the Luistiana, one of our ships.
xtremejohnny69 7 months ago
@xtremejohnny69 Wrong. The Lusitania was a British ship. Furthermore it was sailing in war zone waters and was carrying war munitions. The Germans said before the event that they would torpedo ships in such situations.
SirTenenbaum 7 months ago
@SirTenenbaum Its true but doesn't sinking a ship engaged in trade count as violating neutral rights? I know it was a biritsh ship, but I think it was privately owned and carrying american citizens while also engaged in trade with america.
Violating neutral rights is an act of war.
I'm very interested in etting to the bottom of this so please correct me if I'm wrong.
Hashishin13 7 months ago
@SirTenenbaum The Germans were on their knees as it was. Their soldiers had no food, no supplies, they were completely cut off from the rest of the world by the Royal Navy and morale was in the minus figures. The Germans would've surrendered regardless of American intervention. The threat of moblising millions of American troops certainly quickened their decision but didn't decide it for them. WW2 however is a completely different story. The US DID make the difference, that's a certainty
aspiringdrummer17 5 months ago
No evidence at Pentagon and ShanksVille. Where is the evidence!!
Anothercoilgun 8 months ago
Those responsible are on the Hill.
Anothercoilgun 8 months ago
I hold that WWII could have been prevented if Hoover didn't institute the Smooth Hawley Tariff.
Visfen 8 months ago
Germany declared war on us. So yes, we had every reason to go to war in Europe.
agumon12 9 months ago
in ww2 we didnt start nation building till after the war in europe.We went to diffrent parts like north africa to italy franch beligumm etc to flush them out same with the pacific
trevorthemonkeey 10 months ago
Wow, people should watch this and compare it with today's war problems and the intervention of United Nations with Libya and Obama's crime of going to war without congress approval....its BS! Ron Paul 2012 !
unite4peaceonearth 11 months ago
We were attacked but we had already entered the war with Lend Lease.
The "Holocaust" is a myth created by the victors to justify their war. There are many videos that demonstrate this - here is one: v=fh_wrJ7sjYI
catothewiser 11 months ago
1st of all 911 has been proven by scientists and engineers to be an inside job. OBL had nothing to do with 911. Dr. Steven Jones along with 1400 scientists have conducted experiments at their labs to study the dust that was collected from building 1, 2 and 7. They have found Hi-tech military explosives called Nano-thermite which cave people from M.Est couldn't produce. People with security access could have planned such attack n it involves, Military Ind Comx, Central Bankers, Halliburton etc...
RojehBand 11 months ago
America was attacked by Japan because FDR's administration deliberately steered us in that direction.
patsfanczar 11 months ago
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
tiger12220 11 months ago
That was a really good piece. Something you won't hear in the mainstream, why?? Because it makes people think.
HansBooBee 1 year ago
I have an idea what about the rest of the countries with freedom and armies start pulling their weight. It is not the US's job to be the sole fighter of terrorists and dictators. We can't do it by ourselves and caused our government to begin on the dictatorship path. There are those that are using the War on Terrorism to assume control. The rest of the world talks about protecitng freedom and humanity than let's see step it up Lets the African dictators overthrown and the genocide militia killed
PATTONM14A1 1 year ago
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hcwcars1 1 year ago
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hcwcars1 1 year ago
One should be aware that the only reason little middle eastern terrorists hate us is because we are the massive, intervening world power which has pretty much taken the place of the European colonial powers who out that region down in the early 20th century. Our own imperialism is our bane.
patsfanczar 1 year ago
That was a great discussion! Thanks for sharing!
brucevdk 1 year ago
WWII was merely the inevitable continuation of WWI; in which we had no business interfering. Wilson's actions made WWII a foregone conclusion, the Versailles treaty was both vindictive and fraudulent, making Hitler (or someone like him) inevitable.
Ultimately, World War II served only to determine whether Eastern Europe was controlled by a mass-murderer with a little moustache, or a mass-murderer with a big moustache.
Yes, my Grandmother's brothers died in vain.
webfulcrum 1 year ago
@webfulcrum Your points are quite true, about the two world wars and about the only difference between the size of the moustaches (hilarious and sadly true). But don't give an inch to the warmongers -- whose tactic is to pit us against "supporting the troops" -- by saying your great-uncles died in vain. That generation faced a complete propaganda media with little or no access to information like we have today. They at least died in a constitutional war, against a real (not invented) threat.
VoteCliffHutchison 1 year ago
When the U.S. was attacked by the Japanese, they were also attacked by the Germans. Who do you think the Axis powers were?
Fighting31406 1 year ago
@Fighting31406 The key word is "Axis" Not alliance. Hitler, against the advice of his inner circle declared war on America in the belief that the Axis agreement required him to do so. Because the Japanese struck first, he had no such legal burden.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda..... I'm German who's family fought the Russians, my Grand mother spent 4yrs of her life captured by Russians from 45 to 49. Fuck Russia. Germany should of only fought Russians. Germans were fighting the WORLD from 41 and on. USA would of had its ass handed to them in early in 39 to 42. Anyways..... Still glad of the outcome in 45 America did it! And we'll do it again sooner or later. Did I express enough that I dislike Russians
Antibacterialspray01 1 year ago
Germany was never a Naval power. They couldnt even cross a 22 mile wide channel much less the Atlantic. Lacking amphibious warfare capability, German would have had to establish a beach head in Mexico or South America. The show would have been on the other foot with German convoys getting sunk by American planes, ships, and submarines. The "Real battle" Would not have been against the Germans but Carrier, Battleship, & Submarine Admirals fighting over who would get to sink this round of Germans
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@BernieEOD
Im not sure if im misunderstanding the time frame of your statement, but Germany in around the time of its declaration of war on the US, had a very potent force of u-boats.
I live in Texas, and here they sank many oil tankers as they were leaving port. Many many American sailors died right in our own waters.
Most people think the mainland was never attacked. That's false. It was attacked by the u-boats.
icwiz 1 year ago
@icwiz A submarine presence does not a threat of invasion make. Yes, they did have U Boats sinking ships off our shore after we were supplying weapons to thier enemy. This is a far cry from a German invasion and ocupation.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
I bet the first caller has never been to war.
souldonor 1 year ago
Lady Liberty Walks forward, I agree with the caller, stamp out evil were you know were it is! That was the ultimate purpose our country was founded for. Not to be neutral. Kill evil were you find it and let the cream of a nation rise to the top and carry forth freedom for all world wide. PERIOD.
altops 1 year ago 2
@altops -What evil? Who defines what is evil? Germans were trying to free themselves from jewish cultural and financial domination and protect themselves from jewish communist mass murders. Jewish communist run Soviet Union was mass murdering Russian chrisitians in death camps in the 1920's onward, murdering thousands of Russian Christian priests and buring down thousands of Russian Orthodox churches.
funkybjorn11 1 year ago
@funkybjorn11
Your a sick bastard.
altops 1 year ago
@altops -You claim to be "born again/saved believer", yet you will the ignore the genocide of Russian christians and ukrainian christians, murdered by jewish communists like Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, and Lev Bronstein(Leon Trotsky). You are ignoring the largest mass murder of christians in the history of the world. All you have to do is google "jewish communists yagoda". You are a sick bastard.
funkybjorn11 1 year ago
@funkybjorn you are a dirissionist You would say lies about me, you have no Idea what I ignore, your pulling lies out of thin air. I know this last century has seen more Christians die for their faith than all the rest of time combined, but if you think I'm going against God, your kidding yourself. the JEWS are Gods chosen people, I will bless them as God commands weather they are the scourge of the earth or not. You are at enmity with God for cursing the Jews. I call any and all Jews my friend.
altops 1 year ago
@altops -You're another American Protestant who has been conned by the Scofield Reference Bible. Talmudic Judaism and Christianity two very different religions. The Jewish holy book the Talmud says that jews hanged jesus and that jesus is boiling in a pot of feces. The Talmud also says that Mary, mother of Jesus, is a whore who had sex with a roman soldier. In Israel, religious students will spit in the face of Christian priests. The New Testament has been burned at an organized rally.
funkybjorn11 1 year ago
@funkybjorn11 Hang the cost.
altops 1 year ago
@altops - The Jewish god is a tribal god that Hebrews created for themselves. The "God" that supposedly chose them is their own tribal god. The jewish tribal god is no one elses god. The Christian god and the Jewish god are two very different gods. You are not going against your own Christian god. Your theology sounds like the Scofield Reference Bible footnotes that were inserted into new editions by pro-jewish editors.
funkybjorn11 1 year ago
@funkybjorn11 All I know is the father of lies is the devil, and you lied in public on me. So you have negative credibility to even speak on the matter to all who see you r lies. You know how I know My Jewish God is the true and correct God? I did what the Bible says do to have peace with God, and my prayers are answered. How you manage to separate Christ from the Jew is beyond common sense , believability, reason, purpose.... You have no grasp on the Bible , what its for and why. God help you
altops 1 year ago
@altops -Christianity is based on the New Testament. Christianity isn't about one ethnic group(Jews). Talmudic Judaism and Christianity are 2 different religions. If you are a christian, you are following a Christian god, not the jewish god. Who is teaching you this strange Judaized Christianity? You didn't address the 2,000 year old jewish hostility towards christianity or the jewish mass murder of christians. Read Israel Shahak's book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion".
funkybjorn11 1 year ago
@funkybjorn11 It doesn't come close to mattering what the Jews did, not one centilla! God has set aside the Jew, now is the Church age. 2000 Christians doesn't hold a candle to 6 million murdered Jews. You have been corrupted I know because you spew lies on me and on the Bible, thus God.
altops 1 year ago
"The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
“No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.”
Murdoch v. Pennsylvania, U.S.
“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation, which would abrogate them.”
- Miranda v. Arizona, U.S.
altops 1 year ago
One of our allies(USSR) was just as evil as the axis powers.
sandythebear 1 year ago
@sandythebear well at the start of the war, russia was on germanys side, they just turned against them when the germans invaded Stalingrad
lachlanthelunatic 9 months ago
Oi veh! I don't like people using my messiah to support attacking countries that never attacked us
MrAbolitionist 1 year ago
Iran is NOT a secular country, it is an islamic state. It used to be a secular country(although we kinda fucked that up.)
SdM45 1 year ago
Another lie....
In the Danzig Corridor, Jews were massacring Ethnic Germans; that didn't happen any more than the Dresden Massacre happened......that is, until David Irving exposed Dresden.
The rest needs to be exposed, and the Israeli EXTORTION ended.
David Cole. David Cole. David Cole.
The REAL "holocaust" was the Holodomor.
LPLandingZone 1 year ago
Guys, don't miss out on the following vid: watch?v=z0-TbbZUa68
ZilverGalacticon 1 year ago
Oh I forgot this brilliantly stupid quote by FDR on Stalin
"I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man. ... I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask for nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace."
That's one blind man with extremely poor judgment. Our civilian leadership and their overarching strategy was dumb dumb dumb.
flyinggeng 1 year ago
Russian domination of Eastern Europe and the Iron Curtain is based on a series of strategic mistakes. Russia always wanted all that European land to buffer it against land invasions, but could never get before then. US helped Russia get it.
Blunders like sending in military aid to the Russians, not accepting conditional surrender from Germany where the German army under a non-Nazi regime could continue to fight against USSR, and the Tehran/Yalta/Postdam Conferences.
flyinggeng 1 year ago
BUT, then Russia would have gone into Europe after its defeat and we'd now have Russian countries of Germany, Spain, England... Ron Paul would have given Europe to Russia and simply "defended our coast lines.. wow!
Pkr 1 year ago
@Pkr
There is no proof for this domino theory, where if US does nothing an all-or-nothing result would happen. Either Nazis would completely dominate Europe or USSR would completely dominate Europe. Really??
And US didn't help USSR get half of the European continent??
The tight alliance with Uncle Joe was a huge strategic blunder. Stalin killed several times more civilians than Nazi ever did. Events like Operation Keelhaul make the US-British complicit in their atrocities.
flyinggeng 1 year ago
@Pkr Yeah so? After two deployments to Europe, I agree. Why defend a nation against communism when the people try to sabotage our submarine and wave Soviet flags? Having made the mistake of saving Europe from Hitler, we should have given them to Stalin. They would then have had thier socialist paradise 50 years ago.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@BernieEOD
Fool
The Nazis were already on the path to defeat before any US troops landed in Europe
And the US DID hand a lot of Europe to Stalin
maxine2win 1 year ago
@maxine2win
Germany never had any intentions on the west. When France declared war, it was an unwelcome distraction. If Germany would not have had to fight its western flank, it would have won against Russia.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@BernieEOD
Huh?
Say for the sake of argument say France and Britain abandoned Poland as they the Czechs.
Do you then think Stalin would have been more wary of Hitler.
You assertion that the Nazi would have won is uncertain.
maxine2win 1 year ago
@maxine2win My father fought in Stalingrad. Had the resources diverted to the west been available on the Russian Front, they would have won.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@Pkr Nothing wrong with that. Two deployments to Europe made an isolationist out of me. People waiving Soviet flags, People trying to sabotage our Sub, Sport divers trying to learn secrets they can give to the Soviets. We SHOULD have given them to Stalin. They would have had their "Socialist paradise" 60 years ago.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
This anti-war ideological blindness is quite astonishing.
stater68 1 year ago
@stater68 More astonishing are the chickenhawks who never served talking tough and sending others to war.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
911 was an inside job !! wake up , i do like the Letter of marqe and reprisal .. Classic Ron Paul .. I just dont see How can Ron Paul can not see 911 is AL CIA DUH~~
pipesmoker76 1 year ago
We forget it was the UK and France that declared war on Germany in 1939; the Germans declared war on them only afterward. Had the British and French not done this, it's very unlikely there would have been a war in western Europe. Hitler stated in Mein Kampf that any expansion Germany did in the future should be to the east. Undoubtedly a German-Russian war was inevitable due to both German and Soviet expansionism, but it didn't have to involve western Europe, the UK, or the US.
evergreenpotato 1 year ago
Seemed to me like the original caller was desperately trying to to prove that Ron Paul is an isolationist and total pacifist, but failed miserable in doing so
Bokababe 1 year ago
It should be known that the only reason we are able to support today's military spending is because of the Federal Reserve - via printing oceans of money - and other countries (e.g. China, Russia, India, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Australia, etc) lending the poor U.S. gov't money. One could argue that today's military is not being paid dollars but Chinese yuan. Remember Rome?
Tasadaru 1 year ago
i find it disturbing that he noe pointed out that Germany declared war on us 3 days after japan did because Japan, Italy, and Germany were allies.
DixieOfDeKalbCounty 1 year ago
"It's more P.C. to criticize fascism than it is to criticize communism." I've felt this way for quite a while now.
WWII was a replay of WWI. And both WWI and WWII was germinated by the international banking House of Rothschild. Get rid of central banking, get rid of war. War costs lots of money and wars on the scale we've fought can only be financed by fractional-reserve lending.
axltyler 1 year ago 4
For the record, once the USA declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the USA. We didn't really have to choose whether to fight Germany or not, Hitler made that a foregone conclusion.
-jcr
NSResponder 1 year ago 16
@NSResponder The USSR and England were taking care of hitler. USSR won the European war. Hitler was getting his ass kicked by Stalin. He didn't let up with that campaign and couldn't win. Once he was defeated we should have taken out stalin and helped russia restore proper government. As a result Russians and half of Europe had to wait 50 years to be free again. Because we just rushed in head first and played right into Stalin's hands going through france, leaving eastern europe open to stalin.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@NSResponder And at the same time people like Prescott Bush was funding Hitler through Harriman Brothers bank in Manhattan, Rockefeller was selling Hitler fuel and Henry Ford was selling him trucks. Franklin Roosevelt knew months before Pearl Harbor that an attack there was imminent from intercepted transmissions. Just like LBJ had the USS Liberty shot up by Israeli air force and Robert MacNamara staged the Gulf of Tonkien attack to take the US into Vietnam.
Google Operation Northwoods. Wake Up
MrRiceowlex 1 year ago
@MrRiceowlex War makes money and makes the state stronger. It is the antithesis
of a free country. Read "War is a Racket" by General Smedly Butler.
MrRiceowlex 1 year ago
@MrRiceowlex Major General Smedly Butler. one of two Marines to be awarded TWO medals of honor? that General Smedly Butler?
1969challenger 1 year ago
@NSResponder The US still made the choice to send troops.
rangergxi 1 year ago
@NSResponder yeah, but you got to admit, japan had it coming for them, they slaughtered china, bombed australia (TWICE), took over the pacific ocean (which is fucking huge), and then bombed pearl harbour. america was the last to join in the pacific war. but what your saying doesn't make sense, america is NOT full of stupid people, the country must have been a fucking idiot if they think germany isn't gonna declare war, what?, you think there just gonna forget about it and let it pass.
lachlanthelunatic 9 months ago
@NSResponder Beat me to it!
Hashishin13 7 months ago
I wish it was the good ol d days when we were allied with the russians and the chinese and fought against evil.
Oh well.
CannibalKlok 2 years ago
Stalin was more evil than Hitler ever was.
BernieEOD 2 years ago 33
@BernieEOD That is true. The number of deaths on his head make 6 million look like nothing. The Bolshevik revolution was basically attempted Genocide.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@BernieEOD The Bolshevik revolution led to the deaths of 60 million people.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 Actually, according to Yelstin, the total body count of the 75 year year "Experiment" Exceeds 200 million.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@BernieEOD Its horrible.. but we cannot completaly blame communism.. considering the failed crops and natural russian cruelty. Russia has always been a cruel land. Still, Stalins Communist government still failed miserably, except maybe the manufactoring increasing.
rangergxi 1 year ago
@BernieEOD How do you measure evil on that scale?
rangergxi 1 year ago
@rangergxi Hitler killed million, Stalin killed hundreds of millions. People were liberated from Nazi Death Camps and into Soviet Gulags
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@BernieEOD Hitler would have killed more and enslaved more if given the chance.
rangergxi 1 year ago
@rangergxi Europe created Hitler, Europe deserved Hitler. The Nazis were a monster created by Versales.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
@BernieEOD The Individuals of Europe did not create the treaty, their leaders did (Many from monarchies or dictatorships)
They did go a bit harsh on Germany.. But Austria did lose its coast, and Russia became a communist country...
Also, The Im sure the French were a bit mad, considering the Millions of dead and how close the fighting got to Paris itself.
rangergxi 1 year ago
@rangergxi It is a Lie that Germany was responsible for WW1. Had the USA stayed out of WW1, Europe would have gotten tired of killing each other. Europe created the Nazis, Europe deserved the Nazis. The Isolationiasts were right.
BernieEOD 1 year ago
FDR wanted to get into the war. After Versalles, America wanted no part of another war in Europe. The American mentality at the time was "Europe created Hitler, Europe deserved Hitler".
Frustrated with the nations unwillingness to go to war in Europe, FDR was heard to have said "If I cant get into this war on the Atlantic, I'' do it in the Pacific!"
BernieEOD 2 years ago
BernieEOD: I don't know, those Yorktown and Hornet and especially Essex class carriers were no joke. They made the decks of the Essex classes with mahogany which wouldn't allow for penetration of over head bombs. That was the elite carrier of the day and the largest. Of course it really turned out that the most important ship of the Pacific war would be a measly troop carrier that was by and large unarmed. All others supported the troop carrier ultimately.
BradNC11175 2 years ago
Actually, the Essex class did not have armored flight decks. The Midway was the first to have a steep armored flight deck.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
Obvious answer: Germany declared war on us first...
jaimondrow 2 years ago
@jaimondrow
Only after Pearl Harbor. Even so, supplying ones enemy is a viable act of war so by legal definition, Germany was justified. Foolish but justified.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
@BernieEOD. The video asked whether the US would have fought in World War II under a Non-Interventionalist foreign policy. The answer is 'yes' because Germany declared war on the US first. I'm responding to the video not the pro-nazi debate.
jaimondrow 2 years ago
Had America had a truly non interventionalist policy, Germany would not have declared war nor would Japan have attacked Pearl Harbor. If, after conquering Europe, Hilter set his sights on America, the "Real battle" Would not have been with the Germans but between Battleship Admirals, Carrier Admirals, Submarine Admirals, and Air Force Generals all fighting over who gets to sink this latest German attempt to invade us.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
@BernieEOD. We may be playing a semantic game here. Interventionalism would have had the US declaring war on Japan in defense of China or declaring war on Germany in the mid-30s because they were a threat to Europe. The United States WAS a non-interventionalist nation until WWII.
You seem to be equating Non-interventionalism with Isolationism.
jaimondrow 2 years ago
Defense of China? I don't think so. Defense of our economic interests? Perhaps. Europe? After what Europe did to Germany at Versalles, the American attitude at the time was "Europe created Hitler, Europe deserved Hitler".
Two Deployment to Europe during my military career made an isolationist out of me. I would have had no problem allowing Stalin to take all of Europe after having been there.
BernieEOD 2 years ago 2
Ron Paul 2012. Truth be told Ron Paul will never win an election people are drawn to people like Bush and Obama for they till people what they like to hear then when elected do what the party said do. That why American is fixing to go broke for the only way to fix things in their mind is to SPEND, GROW GOVERNMENT, AND SPEND SOME MORE!
ke4jcd 2 years ago
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Germany was never our enemy!
Here is a hint:
Stalin - Jew
Churchill - Jew
FDR - Jew
Can you guess where the conspiracy to conquer the world came from?
Live414 2 years ago
>Churchill - Jew
haha, oh dear...
afaultytoaster 2 years ago
You have to kidding me. Churchill Jewish? Who told you this crap your Neo-nazi boyfriend?
wdghk 2 years ago
lol ofc XD.the right thing....
dallenor 2 years ago
He spent way to much time explaining a very simple answer. The president doesn't declare war, congress does... POTUS executes that order.
yostevoak1 2 years ago 3
Damn straight yostevoak1.
On a different note, we didn't declared war on Germany in WW2. When we declared war on Japan to retaliate for Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on us because Germany and Japan were in a military alliance. Regardless of whether Paul would have declared war on Germany, when he certainly would have defended us against Japanese military aggression, we would have been brought into war with Germany anyway.
Firnubulations 2 years ago
I think you should do a video on Vietnam!
lionfoxxx 2 years ago
Since 1924, the Dawes Plan flooded Germany with a large amounts of American capital. Rockefeller's National City Bank, STD Oil. Edsel Ford (President of the Ford Motor Co.), On the Board of Directors of this corporation was Edsel Ford (President of the Ford Motor Co.), Charles E. Mitchell (Pres. of National City Bank in NYC), Walter C. Teagle (President of Standard Oil of New York), Paul Warburg (Chairman of the Federal Reserve), and Herman Metz (Director of the Warburg's Bank of Manhattan)
Permindex 2 years ago
It's a shame the Germans lost the war. The world would be a much better place today.
decimator333 2 years ago
probably no greedy jews
magefrench1 2 years ago
That's right.
decimator333 2 years ago
Hey, Hitler declared war on us we didn't declare war on him.
cfpa1 2 years ago
History is replete with examples of countries that projected their military power to other countries. Some attempted to do so indefinitely. Those that did eventually collapsed or retracted because their poulace eventually became overly weary of the whole business. And of the latter, many became victims of agressors because they had lost heart to even defend themselves.
4GooMan 2 years ago
Had we gone in significantly earlier, it's a certainty that Hitler would have recognized that he could not commit half of Germany to fight the Russians, and the other half to fight the English and the Americans. He would have compromised on the Russian front. The Americans entering in early would have not had the capacity of ships and planes that we had by postponing, so we would have faced the full might of the german army, with significantly fewer resources.
saxrider 2 years ago
Another excellent video, keep up the great work friend.
epicstyle29 2 years ago
The people who profit from war are merchants, bankers and industrialists working with militarists and scientists-"defending" a nation has more to do with these people's agendas than any love of a nation-"the state" or "the nation" is a front for the people making money off the resources in the area- The Japanese navy was built using US iron. US Bankers, including Prescott Bush, funded the re-emergence of a broke 1930s Germany . War usually means arm your enemy then goad him into attacking you
Hanksalot 2 years ago 2
i agree i think we should leave the UN they do nothing but use our money to bash us it makes no damn sense!!fuck the UN!!!
TheDodger19 2 years ago
Exactly. Fuck the U.N. especially with a bayonet on the end of my rifle.
TheFeralFury 2 years ago
Oi, SA, there's one easy solution to the WW2 and Ron Paul problem. Paul would have retaliated against Japan, no question. The solution is inherent in the fact that Japan and Germany (and Italy) had an alliance. When American declared war on Japan, Germany and Italy declared war on America.
Legatoful 2 years ago
No doubt you are right but we all know that Rosevelt was wanting to jump into the war in Europe long before 12/07/43. There is even the theory he knew about the Jap plan prior to the attack in order to be able to get into the war in Europe due to exactly what your saying.
BradNC11175 2 years ago 2
he did knew it is confirmed.many many more leaders did.Nero hitler himself and 1 modern 1.i let u geuss and i give 1 hint.9/11 he knew about it 1 year before. :( he is just pure evil
dallenor 2 years ago
Dallenor: I was doing a little research last night on the Dec. 7, 1941 attack at Pearl. As insensitive as it is to say this with regards to the American military personel that lost their lives that day, the truth is, in some ways it seems to me the Japs did the US Navy a favor at Pearl. For the most part, the ships & planes lost at Pearl were all obsolete and out dated. This includes the many P-40 fighters blown to bits on tarmacs, the USS Arizona and most of the other ships....
BradNC11175 2 years ago
.... A consinderable ammount of what was destroyed at Pearl was salvaged and used to build newer and more modern ships/aircraft. Even the turrets were popped off the Arizona for this very purpouse as well as the tower while the rest still remains at the bottom of Pearl to this day. Sounds to me that the US Navy managed to benefit from the vast ammounts of money that was spent on modernizing the fleet, old obsolete ships/planes died for a good cause. I suppose some would say the men did too.
BradNC11175 2 years ago
@BradNC11175
ALL of the Battleships at Pearl Harbor were obsolete rust buckets destined for the scrap heap. All of them were WW1 vintage. Their replacements, the South Dakota, Iowa, and the Kentucky were either in the water or on the building ways.
Even when raised, re furbished, and upgraded, these battleships were considered 2nd rate units.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
BernieEOD: Pryor to WWII the battleship had been the ultimate symbol of a super power since the days of the wooden sailing ship. The debate was between having the biggest baddest ship on the seas or having more battleships than any other nation. Pearl Harbor changed that for ever. Just as the atomic bomb roughly 4 years later would once again redefine a super power. The American fleet had nothing that could have been a match for the Bismarc at Pearl nore the Yamamoto class Jap battleship.
BradNC11175 2 years ago
Wrong. On December 7, 1941, the South Dakota Class Battleships were already in the water and the Iowa was close to being launched. The Kentucky was ordered as a new "Super Iowa" with a fourth turret. It was alter re ordered as an Iowa class. Iowa would have been more than a match for Bismarc and Yamamoto.
The Montana would have outmatched them. ALL of the Battleships at Pearl Harbor were obsolete WW1 vintage destined for the scrp heap anyway.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
As it turned out, even the large carrier was not needed. Had "Taffy 3" Simply had the right ordinance for the job in its magazines, the puny escort carriers would have turned the battle of Leyte Gulf into "The Leyte Gulf massacre"
BernieEOD 2 years ago
The problem with the large carrier was that it was too valuable to risk. A little know fact during Guadalcanal was that after the major naval battles, Halsey withdrew and infomormed the Marines "You are authotised to surrender"
Not something the Navy wants to be reminded of. In later battles, the CVE's Remained on station to provide the support needed while the "Real Carriers" ran to safety.
Officially- CVE: Carrier Vessel, Escort
Unofficial- CVE: Combustable, vulnerable, Expendable.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
BernieEOD: Ha Ha... I never heard it put like that but sounds fair to me. The CVE was not really introduced untill later in the war was it? Around late 1943? The Lexington and many of the earlier carriers were cruise ships and cargo ships modified to be able to take off, land and store aircraft on right? You do have a point about them being to valuable to risk, especially earlier on in the war.
BradNC11175 2 years ago
The Ranger was the first carrier built as one from the Ground up as were the Yorktown, Lexington, Hornet, and Enterprise. Ironically, these carriers were built as part of a Jobs program under the WPA. Since there was a 20 year ban on Battleships but none on carriers. The cargo ships / cruiser hulls built into carriers were the CVE's
BernieEOD 2 years ago
BernieEOD: I tip my hat to you, you know your stuff. Have you ever followed the story of the Yamamoto? Not only it's "sea life" but it's construction? "The Anti Battleship Proliferation Treaty" was a hoax that tried to limit the "battleship proliferation" but yet gave special exemptions to the US and Britain. No wonder nobody else took it to seriously. The Yamamoto was built under complete secrecy, no two builders/designers had complete plans to it and the plans were destroyed upon launch.
BradNC11175 2 years ago
Not all that much. I can tell you that the Battleships at Pearl Harbor were WW1 vintage ships re built several times over due to the 20 year moratorium on Battlehsip construction. Ironically, this is what led to the development of carriers and their aircraft. The Yamamtos sister ship was sunk by carier planes and Yamamoto withdrew from the onslaught of planes from escor carriers. Had "Taffy 3" Simply had the right ordinance in its magazines, Leyte Gulf would have been a massacre, not a battle.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
BernieEOD: Your understanding of Leyte Gulf far surpasses mine. The Yamamoto class battleship was both Japan's pride & joy militarily speaking as well as Japan's achillies heal. The Japanese did assymble the largest and most powerful battleship in history, amazingly fast for it's size as well. But they wasted a tremendous ammount of resources they desperately needed else where on those ships. They probably could have built 3-4 carriers with the resources needed to build one Yamamoto Class BB.
BradNC11175 2 years ago
"Yamamoto" was the name of a Japanese admiral. "Yamato" was the name of the battleship.
-jcr
NSResponder 1 year ago
"It is more fashionable to criticize Fascism than Communism."
It is interesting that we have now become Fascists. Who, exactly, won WWII?
steve0281 2 years ago
We are not fascists.
JCostiganII 2 years ago
I am afraid so. Look up the definition, or I will be happy to direct you to it.
steve0281 2 years ago
I know the defintion well and I disagree with what you said.
I agree thought we need more liberty, we have been heading towards fascism for a while, but I would not say we are complete fascist or comparable to say Nazi Germany.
JCostiganII 2 years ago
I said absolutely nothing about Nazis or Nazism. All Nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are Nazis.
As the identifying characteristic of fascism is the government control of the means of production and we currently have in excess of 70K pages of regulations on business on the books the US is now fully fascist.
Ask around. See how many people agree that government should control business.
steve0281 2 years ago
I firmly oppose government ran buisness, I agree with you on that, I am a Libertarian.
I think I misinterperted your statment.
JCostiganII 2 years ago
As am I.
Not a problem.
steve0281 2 years ago
Well lets fight to bring back the Constitution!
JCostiganII 2 years ago
Stay tuned...
steve0281 2 years ago
"Yes miss I may be drunk right now, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will STILL be ugly"
Sir Winston Churchill
theallmightychad 2 years ago
'Wait until all of Europe became 'Nazi'...
Well, the U.S. and Britain did hand over half of Europe over to Communism.
I suggest everyone read Pat Buchanan's latest book, 'The Unnecessary War'.
Britain and America were antagonists -- just as they were against Iraq.
AntiBullshitCrusader 2 years ago
Don't any of them know that Germany declared war on US in WWII, and it wasn't really a matter of policing europe, it was about self defense?
Odyssey54 3 years ago
technically thats correct, but self defense is a stretch. they did not attack us and had we not had our ships in that region, would not be defending anything in our interests.
We further need to be open to the idea that we were just one of the belligerents, not a holy warrior.
thescreamingid 2 years ago
The United States had essentially been at a state of war with Germany long before the declaration of war, and despite the promises made by Roosevelt, was led by a man who wanted to get involved in what was another European conflict. Completely in contradiction to the will of the Founding Fathers.
AntiBullshitCrusader 2 years ago 2
Even the Cold War was a waste of time, we should have done what Robert Taft proposed, dont antagonise the Russians with NATO and leave them alone.
espunde 3 years ago
there are lots of UN resolutions, i think there is one for Israel back in the sixtys but who cares? either you believe in Globalism and what the Globalists have told everyone about how great things would be or not. we are not in all these countries because we want to protect our allies. its assets we are protecting. one asset is a millitary that needs constant rearmoring and upgrading, who do you suppose profits from that.there is BIG change coming its just been in the works for a long time
lezlitaz 3 years ago
SA,no offense but you don't understand how the world works
lordtiberius 3 years ago
DO YOU?
attalahotboy 3 years ago
The question must be asked, why did Japan attack our navy at Pearl Harbor when they knew they could never win a war with the U.S..
What positive resulted from winning the war.
China fell to the communist resulting in millions killed. All of Eastern Europe fell behind the Iron Curtain. These were the people we were suppose to save. Their liborators were worse than the conquerers.
tomrdee 3 years ago
The US would have intervened in ww2 no Mather how you look at it, just by the fact the Japanese attacked the US,
the Japanese and the Germans had a alliance called the Tripartite Pact so whatever happened the Germans and Italy would have automatically become the enemys
of the US and also the US dearly needed the naval and air forces of England and the Netherlands to face the Japanese Imperial Navy in the early days of the war so they had to make a military pact with England and such
PyramidHead17 3 years ago
The U.S. and Britain wanted war with Germany and Japan. The U.S. antagonized both Japan and Germany years prior to any declarations of war.
There is a mentality in the West, in America and Britain, to believe they are guiltless of being aggressors. It is nonsense.
AntiBullshitCrusader 2 years ago
im not saying America is guiltless they did had a aggressive policy that angered Japan with the oil embargo's and other natural resources
PyramidHead17 2 years ago
This is ignoring that Japan was occupying a great number of islands in southeast Asia and turned hostile towards the Netherlands and Britain. The oil embargo was called for.
Loserido 2 years ago 3
well they did wanted to become a "great empire"
in that mater the western country's where no better they also had a lot of colonies in Asia
PyramidHead17 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree, but that doesn't change a thing. Seen from their perspective, the oil embargo was called for.
Loserido 2 years ago
They were antagonizing Nazis and Militarist Fascists?? omg...
Loserido 2 years ago
One is forced to ask: What is a viable act of war? If one believes that only attacking first is an act of war then yes, the Japanese started it. On the other hand, if one forward deploys ones fleet to it westernmost base and then makes threats of a naval blockade, then the U.S. commitied the first act of war. Had the Japanese forward deployed thier fleet to thier easternmost base and made the same threats, we would have attacekd first.
BernieEOD 2 years ago
Selective memory eh?
The UN opposed the Iraq war
KarateKidX 3 years ago
What also can not be forgotten is that interventionism helped lead to a climate in Germany that permitted Hitlers rise. Without the Treaty of Versailles decimating the country of Germany after World War I, there would never have been a climate to foster a movement such as Hitlers. Interventionism is not a philosophy that can be used sparingly. It must be cultivated, used throughout time, and built upon. After you begin to intervene with countries, militarily or economically, the dominoes fall.
forthepeople88 3 years ago 3
there are terroists "pirates" too. WEneed to train be vigulant and be diplomatic. WE'VE made some mistakes but don't deleegitimize all the good we've done because of some extortion or mitakes we've made. Saddam was our responsability because after the shah fell CARTER was a puss and refused to recongize and try to call duty the good nations of the world to stop the iatola's insurgency to power. We knew Reza was better for all than the iatola. Instead we backed saddam. Our mess to clean up.
JEBO777 3 years ago
The worlds world warII generation was willing to risk lives and spend money regardless of potential finacial debt or crisis. This generation whines about money and brave lives spent because it is cowardly lazy selfish and spoiled and is kidding it self. Nation building is what Japan the Communists the Faciststs and the Islamists want to do. And the are terrorists "pirate
JEBO777 3 years ago
The other side of the argument and it is legitimate that Saddam Husein was a loose cannon who could have obtained nukes. LOOK IDIOTS Akmenajad is trying to develop them NOW. Saddam would have maybe had the excuse of defending having to defend IRAQ by gaining nukes. And what about prosecution of Sadam's crimes against humanity. CAH! To an honorable world WMDs wouldn't matter.
JEBO777 3 years ago