watch the pbs doc on R.E. Lee...in his own words, he writes about how he is not too keen on the idea of being lumped into the same society as common-folk (i.e., poor people and slaves).
Jackson was lucky he got the chance to die next his wife.The only other time that happened in the war was Union General William Wallace after Shiloh he got to die in his wife's arms surrounded by family but they're the exceptions many a brave soldier in Blue and Butternut died with the only comfort of knowing they were going to be thrown into a mass grave with the rest of their comrades
all soldiers who fight in wars die in them even if they didn't die in them physically. lee survived for several years after the war, but he also went into some sort of dramatic form like jackson. his last orders was to tell his men to move out. which basically means that lee died thinking he was moving in for battle. some say that general lee and jackson's ghost are still both seen at chancellorsville and a few other sites. as are thousands of other ghosts.
@soccerreadingkid , Friend, you are mistaken. Lee wrote this to Jackson upon hearing of his injuries: "Could I have directed events, I would have chosen for the good of the country to be disabled in your stead." The night Lee learned of Jackson's death, he told his cook, "William, I have lost my right arm" and "I'm bleeding at the heart."
@soccerreadingkid Continued: As Jackson lay dying, General Robert E. Lee sent a message to Jackson through Chaplain Lacy, saying "Give General Jackson my affectionate regards, and say to him: he has lost his left arm but I my right." I encourage you to read more about Robert E Lee and I think that you will see your comments are ill advised. As for the scence you refer to in the movie, I do not know of an historical basis for it, although there may be one.
@wmpope100 i do my reserch, i love history, its say Lee hates confration. Lee never saw Jackson when he was hurt. He didnt even vist Longstreet when he was wounded. And as for righting letter,and telling his cook thing wow thats like breaking up with someone over a text. He should have said that to Jacksons face. I RESPECT R.E.Lee he is a great gen. but he is a coward when it come to confrating. He lost two of his favorite gen, one of them was his best and closest friend GENERAL LONGSTREET.
@soccerreadingkid Let us not use the word coward so loosely friend about a man who was awarded and promoted for bravery in the Mexican American War, graduated second in his class at West Point with a record of NO demerits, a record never equaled to this day, and then who after suffering the loss of his ancestral home and so much during a terrible Civil War, encouraged his men not to hate, but to "be as good of citizens as they were soldiers".
@wmpope100 that may be so. i consider bravery a right. he is a good soldier yes he is but he is a coward as a man. for example you or would vist a dieing or sick friend or even co-worker in the hospital why cant the grestest generl do this. if he is brave he would have vist. when longstreet was wounded people who dislike him visted him or wrote letters. so why cant lee do the same. to me that bravery.
@soccerreadingkid I know the movie shows Lee refusing to visit Jackson, but I have not found a historical basis that records that Lee refused to visit Jackson or Longstreet because he did not want to. I will agree that Lee did not like generally to confront people who had disobeyed or to have some type of confrontation. Had he been more strict with some of his generals he would have been better off. He should have relieved some of command, but he rarely did.
@wmpope100 if you saw the docemontry on dvd u would it from my point of few.he realy relieved on Longstreet maybe to many times. when he was shot, lee was lost. thier was a time when he had no good generals jackson was died, longstreet was servlly wounded, stuart was died. i felt sorry for him. he should have been strict with them. he did with straut and he was a better generl for it.
Lee could not visit Stonewall. Not only were they on completely different sides of the field, but they were in the middle of a battle. Furthermore, as the Confederate Commanding General, he had to keep everything rolling and organized. Yes he should have visited, but you also must Realize that a battle should not be lost because of the death of one soldier, regardless of rank.
@TheMusicmanMB when general Hanock was shot at gettysbug and taken to the hostipol he was visted by his men and some if the generals. when is was recovering general Meade visted him. that was durng a battle and they were following the csa
@soccerreadingkid because lee was told he would die. to visit someone on their deathbed when being told something like that is like you are saying you are accepting their fate. and he did not want to face that possibility, so he hoped that he might come around.
@wmpope100 from haynes1776: I do agree with you. Robert E. Lee is and still is the most admired and beloved General in American History. The son of Harry Lee, a general in the American Revolution, he was a gifted soldier and devoted to his country. When offered command of the Union armies when the civil war started, he could not draw his sword against his native state of Virginia. he Earned the respect of his men and of his foes. He was no coward.
@soccerreadingkid I will weigh in on this debate, Lee did not lose Gen. Longstreet. he and Gen Longstreet had a disagreement and that was that. Longstreet after the war became a republican, so I guess you could say that he lost Longstreet. But I know for a fact that the two men were friends untill Lee's death. However Lee never backed down from any fight that he was dealt. Remember this. I have read and studied more on this war than, I would say anyone else has.
@soccerreadingkid ok dont get me wrong but im pretty sure Robert E. Lee was still fighting a war....Stonewall knew why he couldn't be there and ur an idiot for say Robert E. Lee was a coward...I would like to see you fight like this man did and the encourage his men to be "as good of citizens as they were soldiers". Coward, my friend is not the right word here, HERO is though...
@sjbaseball6 your sayin that he was still fightin the war, ok true but he could have visted him. lee road through the town on chancellorsvile and he could not go vist jackson who was close to there. grant who hated the site of blood allways vited field hospitals to say goodbye to fallen freinds. blood made grant so sick that when he was injured that he had to leave the field hosptal. but he still went there to say goodye to his generals and soldiers.
@soccerreadingkid Lee was still the head of the Confederate army. He needed to be a leader and he had no way to get to Jackson without abandoning his duties. He was a good man and a good general. He wanted to see Thomas, but he couldn't.
Actually, this was a 2003 movie. No offense meant. Why did men in those days like bushy beards? I find it very annoying. I'm fine with mustaches but beards? The doctor was cute. It was such a wonderful movie. Thanks for uploading this clip!!
Stephen Lang deserved the Oscar for his brilliant performance here.
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TThorne931 7 months ago
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Eddyisrich403 7 months ago 2
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TThorne931 7 months ago
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jeffperigo 7 months ago
whoelse thinks martin sheen plays a better intimidating Lee cause its like with such touching words he is really showing how Lee is a great leader
edyoung44 8 months ago
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edyoung44 8 months ago
"Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees."
Even in his last words. Stonewall Jackson inspires me.
AlphaOmega804 8 months ago 6
Everytime I watch this movie I hope that Jackson makes it.
dchowwow 9 months ago
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@dchowwow everytime i cheer when he dies
TThorne931 7 months ago
YOU GUYS KNOW IS THEY MAY HAVE CALLED MCLEAN (YOUNG Napoleon), BUT GENERAL LEE AND STONEWALL JACKSON HAVE THE BATTLE SKILLS OF Napoleon.
TheRapper10000 10 months ago
I not sure who plays a better Robert E. Lee. Martin Sheen or Robert Duval?
MrSuperfly1994 1 year ago
watch the pbs doc on R.E. Lee...in his own words, he writes about how he is not too keen on the idea of being lumped into the same society as common-folk (i.e., poor people and slaves).
nworkman11 1 year ago
Jackson was lucky he got the chance to die next his wife.The only other time that happened in the war was Union General William Wallace after Shiloh he got to die in his wife's arms surrounded by family but they're the exceptions many a brave soldier in Blue and Butternut died with the only comfort of knowing they were going to be thrown into a mass grave with the rest of their comrades
markmason1000 1 year ago
I will be an infinite gainer to be translated.
keydet72 1 year ago
Great General..wrong cause.
chapdog82 1 year ago 3
all soldiers who fight in wars die in them even if they didn't die in them physically. lee survived for several years after the war, but he also went into some sort of dramatic form like jackson. his last orders was to tell his men to move out. which basically means that lee died thinking he was moving in for battle. some say that general lee and jackson's ghost are still both seen at chancellorsville and a few other sites. as are thousands of other ghosts.
ultradumbass 1 year ago
@ultradumbass Are they going to have Anal-Sex at the beggning? in southern american crappy accent?
easynowww 1 year ago
@easynowww you calling a southern accent crappy?
sjbaseball6 1 year ago
It gets me everytime when he says "let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees."
confederatekid3 1 year ago
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Lee is a chicken, he cant even said goodbye to his best general
soccerreadingkid 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid , Friend, you are mistaken. Lee wrote this to Jackson upon hearing of his injuries: "Could I have directed events, I would have chosen for the good of the country to be disabled in your stead." The night Lee learned of Jackson's death, he told his cook, "William, I have lost my right arm" and "I'm bleeding at the heart."
wmpope100 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid Continued: As Jackson lay dying, General Robert E. Lee sent a message to Jackson through Chaplain Lacy, saying "Give General Jackson my affectionate regards, and say to him: he has lost his left arm but I my right." I encourage you to read more about Robert E Lee and I think that you will see your comments are ill advised. As for the scence you refer to in the movie, I do not know of an historical basis for it, although there may be one.
wmpope100 1 year ago 9
@wmpope100 i do my reserch, i love history, its say Lee hates confration. Lee never saw Jackson when he was hurt. He didnt even vist Longstreet when he was wounded. And as for righting letter,and telling his cook thing wow thats like breaking up with someone over a text. He should have said that to Jacksons face. I RESPECT R.E.Lee he is a great gen. but he is a coward when it come to confrating. He lost two of his favorite gen, one of them was his best and closest friend GENERAL LONGSTREET.
soccerreadingkid 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid Let us not use the word coward so loosely friend about a man who was awarded and promoted for bravery in the Mexican American War, graduated second in his class at West Point with a record of NO demerits, a record never equaled to this day, and then who after suffering the loss of his ancestral home and so much during a terrible Civil War, encouraged his men not to hate, but to "be as good of citizens as they were soldiers".
wmpope100 1 year ago 11
@wmpope100 that may be so. i consider bravery a right. he is a good soldier yes he is but he is a coward as a man. for example you or would vist a dieing or sick friend or even co-worker in the hospital why cant the grestest generl do this. if he is brave he would have vist. when longstreet was wounded people who dislike him visted him or wrote letters. so why cant lee do the same. to me that bravery.
soccerreadingkid 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid I know the movie shows Lee refusing to visit Jackson, but I have not found a historical basis that records that Lee refused to visit Jackson or Longstreet because he did not want to. I will agree that Lee did not like generally to confront people who had disobeyed or to have some type of confrontation. Had he been more strict with some of his generals he would have been better off. He should have relieved some of command, but he rarely did.
wmpope100 1 year ago
@wmpope100 if you saw the docemontry on dvd u would it from my point of few.he realy relieved on Longstreet maybe to many times. when he was shot, lee was lost. thier was a time when he had no good generals jackson was died, longstreet was servlly wounded, stuart was died. i felt sorry for him. he should have been strict with them. he did with straut and he was a better generl for it.
soccerreadingkid 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid
Lee could not visit Stonewall. Not only were they on completely different sides of the field, but they were in the middle of a battle. Furthermore, as the Confederate Commanding General, he had to keep everything rolling and organized. Yes he should have visited, but you also must Realize that a battle should not be lost because of the death of one soldier, regardless of rank.
TheMusicmanMB 1 year ago
@TheMusicmanMB when general Hanock was shot at gettysbug and taken to the hostipol he was visted by his men and some if the generals. when is was recovering general Meade visted him. that was durng a battle and they were following the csa
soccerreadingkid 1 year ago
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@soccerreadingkid because lee was told he would die. to visit someone on their deathbed when being told something like that is like you are saying you are accepting their fate. and he did not want to face that possibility, so he hoped that he might come around.
ultradumbass 1 year ago
@wmpope100 from haynes1776: I do agree with you. Robert E. Lee is and still is the most admired and beloved General in American History. The son of Harry Lee, a general in the American Revolution, he was a gifted soldier and devoted to his country. When offered command of the Union armies when the civil war started, he could not draw his sword against his native state of Virginia. he Earned the respect of his men and of his foes. He was no coward.
haynes1776 1 year ago 3
@soccerreadingkid I will weigh in on this debate, Lee did not lose Gen. Longstreet. he and Gen Longstreet had a disagreement and that was that. Longstreet after the war became a republican, so I guess you could say that he lost Longstreet. But I know for a fact that the two men were friends untill Lee's death. However Lee never backed down from any fight that he was dealt. Remember this. I have read and studied more on this war than, I would say anyone else has.
jamesg1968 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid uhm, General Longstreet survived the war, perhaps you refer to Gen Stuart, who died in the battle of Yellow Tavern?
Darthbelal 3 months ago
@soccerreadingkid ok dont get me wrong but im pretty sure Robert E. Lee was still fighting a war....Stonewall knew why he couldn't be there and ur an idiot for say Robert E. Lee was a coward...I would like to see you fight like this man did and the encourage his men to be "as good of citizens as they were soldiers". Coward, my friend is not the right word here, HERO is though...
sjbaseball6 1 year ago
@sjbaseball6 your sayin that he was still fightin the war, ok true but he could have visted him. lee road through the town on chancellorsvile and he could not go vist jackson who was close to there. grant who hated the site of blood allways vited field hospitals to say goodbye to fallen freinds. blood made grant so sick that when he was injured that he had to leave the field hosptal. but he still went there to say goodye to his generals and soldiers.
readsportgirl 1 year ago
@sjbaseball6 if he can do that then lee could have gone to see jackson. even if it was only for a hour. i bet he could have spared and hour or so.
readsportgirl 1 year ago
@soccerreadingkid Lee was still the head of the Confederate army. He needed to be a leader and he had no way to get to Jackson without abandoning his duties. He was a good man and a good general. He wanted to see Thomas, but he couldn't.
sharksldw 2 months ago
Actually, this was a 2003 movie. No offense meant. Why did men in those days like bushy beards? I find it very annoying. I'm fine with mustaches but beards? The doctor was cute. It was such a wonderful movie. Thanks for uploading this clip!!
chesykin97 1 year ago
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chunlong13 2 years ago
Such a wonderful movie!
Newellx66 2 years ago 14