The Smartest Guys in the Room - Jeffrey Skilling

[RawwestHide]

fucking narcicists

[raptornugs1]

oh ya i forgot YOUR FUCKING MORONS

[raptornugs1]

goldman gets away with murder but you pawns think enron's executives are the bad guys wow i love living in a world filled with idiots do a little research then post a comment!

[nahonix13]

what a dirty asshole!

[arakyh]

@OeeOO You either have no idea the magnitude of what Enron did or no idea what's going on in the world right now

[everett8811]

I bet he cryed first day in jail.

[zzap999]

I'll pay money to have a bullet through this guy's head and have his whole family gang raped.

[Leoni1]

..what about the blonde lawyer..sitting pretty like she had nothing to do with it...what a joke

[tubub]

Grade A douche bag. Whenever someone tries to tell you a successful person is a sociopath, laugh in their face and point to Jeff Skilling or Bernie Madoff. That's the kind of unnecessary self-destructive behavior of a sociopath, and they bring so many people down with them

[cheeriosinabowl]

Skilling will get out of jail when he's 74 years old.

How do you like them apples, Skilling?

Hope you rot sloooowly.

[bigoldbrute]

Hah, its so funny to look at all u ppl barking like a f*ing dogs towards men, who were falsely accused and thrown in jail. Do some searching, not just eat anything that government and their puppets are shitting. Of course its hard to accept that you will never be so smart/successful like Skilling or Lay, but - cmon.

[Zain844]

“I’m fucking smart”

You’re in fucking jail now asshole how about that.

[Aliciapiano99]

Grilsy, ok, even if I am mistaken, I still have the right to say what I think. And contrary to you, I do think, not only blindly believe what the government and the news tell us. Where I express my opinion is my business. I was trying to analyze the situation, to make people look at it from a different angle. I pity you for your ignorance. The government needs people like you, who don't question, just follow. Congratulations.

[caliboytobin]

@Aliciapiano99 everyone should be able to think for themselves and express themselves.. thanks for doing your thang!

[cheeriosinabowl]

Old German proverb:

They hang the little thieves, and let the BIG ones run free!

Nothing has changed over the centuries ....

[gtrgdss]

@cheeriosinabowl Old western proverb: Never trust a man whose suit is better than yours.

[Aliciapiano99]

It is part of GAAP and more and more companies use it. There is nothing wrong or illegal about it.

[grilsy]

@Aliciapiano99 Alicia it is a pity you show so much passion about supporting Jeffrey Skilling, that energy could be better spent else where. You are part of a small percentage of people who think he is innocent, which is your call, even though you are mistaken. Be sure to keep these views to yourself at work or in your next job interview as people have been fired for alot less. Just remember with gross misconduct the buck always stops at the top in case you ever get that far.

[Aliciapiano99]

I wouldn't call this irresponsible, maybe, yes, he should have investigated more himself, but as a chief he was busy doing other things, like thinking in which direction his company should go next and so on. There were enough accountants working to deal with these things and he trusted them. Why establish mark-to-market accounting? Because it allows you to write an asset and liability in their current value, instead of historical cost, which only shows past transactions. It is part of GAAP and

[gtrgdss]

@Aliciapiano99 Alicia, "being busy" is no excuse. As CEO/COO, etc., your sole reason for being is to increase the wealth of shareholders, which Skilling did, albeit illegally and unethically (at very least.) Because of this man's direction, people in CA died in those rolling blackouts which Enron not only caused but orchestrated. Repeat: PEOPLE DIED, not to mention lost nearly all retirement, while the top guys abandoned ship.

[Aliciapiano99]

Not sure what kind of questions do you mean he should have asked himself if he didn't suspect any fraud was going on. He had no idea Andy Fastow was skimming from his partnerships. Of course Skilling, like any other CEO, tried to make his company look good but he didn't know there was a accounting fraud going on. I wouldn't call this irresponsible, maybe, yes, he should have investigated more himself, but as a chief he was busy doing other things, like thinking in which direction his company sh

[stone8675309]

@Aliciapiano99 STFU he knew they were using shell companies to hide debt.If he was so fucking smart why couldn't he read a goddam balance sheet?

[Johnrl21]

Not too many people that are more unpleasant to deal in any part of life than young cocky motherfuckers who think they know everything.

[peterlemer]

as CEO the responsibility was his. Never mind whether he knew or didn't ( although if he didn't he was grotesquely irresponsible). The questions that whistleblowers, journalists, accountants and so forth began to ask in increasing numbers and detail were questions that he must have asked himself in the first place. Where is the balance sheet? Why place so much reliance on mark-to market accounting? And who should take responsibility for hiring a crook, hundreds of crooks?

[Aliciapiano99]

There was never any real evidence that he was involved in the fraud, others testified against him to reduce their sentences. Like I said earlier, he was given documents to sign that accountants and lawyers had signed off. He had no reason to question his employees. In fair trials you are innocent until proven guilty. In his case, though, he was guilty until proven innocent. If Skilling was really guilty, his behavior doesn't make any sense.

[Aliciapiano99]

Skilling created very high standards for Enron and Fastaw wanted to make sure he appeared successful in his job as a CFO in all means possible.

[Aliciapiano99]

Grilsy, that is why lower level management exists. They make some very specific decisions that the upper management might not know about or might not have enough knowledge to understand all the details. Skilling was given documents to sign that all the accountants and lawyers approved of and signed off. He didn't have a reason to doubt them. All those people were CPAs and PhDs. Skilling created very high standards for Enron and Fastaw wanted to make sure he appeared successful in his job as a C

[Aliciapiano99]

Why did he choose to fight in the court when everybody is against him? Remember, that there were a lot of money involved. Shortsellers made a fortune on Enron collapse. I think Skilling was used as a scapegoat to take the blame for everything. I'm not saying he is 100% innocent but is not the monster everybody portraits him. I'm just saying that he should not be in jail, there are other people who should be there instead.

[grilsy]

@Aliciapiano99 I will tell you why one word "Arrogance" He was the CEO he knew exactally what was going on. That's generally how big corporations work. He didn't just wake up one day and say "wow my CFO screwed me". Considering the amount of people that lost their life savings I would consider him a monster. Imagine it was you or someone you cared about then your opinion my change.

[Aliciapiano99]

Just think about it, if Skilling was guilty and he knew about everything what was going on in Enron, why would he quit when the company was on the verge of collapse and would be blamed for everything? Why wouldn't he rather stay and try to work things out and save the company and his reputation? If he was guilty, why didn't he leave the country, change his name, put his money in a Swiss bank and so on? If he was guilty, why didn't he take the fifth amendment? Why didn't he admit he was guilty

[Aliciapiano99]

I never said that Enron wasn't involved in anything illegal, I said Skilling wasn't. There were a lot of illegal activities that were going on in Enron that were orchestrated by Fastaw and other people. They were hiding this from Skilling and Lay. Even Fastaw himself said in his testimony that he was hiding it from Skilling. The biggest mistake Skilling and Lay made is that they trusted Fastaw and didn't get involved enough in what Fastaw was doing.

Just think about it, if Skilling was guilty

[Aliciapiano99]

Jeff Skilling hasn't done anything illegal. He is a truly smart and talented guy, great thinker. He is someone who changed they way things were done, he created great things. He loved the company, gave everything to it. Then he was not aware of everything what was going on, there were some things deliberately hidden from him. He suffered the most of anyone else from Enron colapse. He shouldn't be in jail. All this movie is very subjective and manipulative, it's designed to play on your emotions

[grilsy]

@Aliciapiano99 If you think fraud is not illegal then you are either not educated or slept through Corp law 101. Wake up! Following Skilling's methods will get you exactally where he is. Not so great now is he!

[tomkes100douchebag]

Now comes the news about his family. I SAY GREAT!!!! Can't get enough.My day is made. Still waiting for his victims to tear him limb from limb!! Every one of these scumbags should be hunted and their kids cooked in hot oil!

[fleurgi]

"i'm fucking smart."

[StupidIdiot12345]

@fleurgi I lol'd

[MrGrevy]

@tastingo88 He's in prison isn't he? Not too smart.

[hello2146]

@MrGrevy would you do 7 years in prison if you have 35 pieces of real estate around the world and at least 40 million in your bank account when you got out? Ask Andy Fastow, he got out this year.

[MrGrevy]

@hello2146 Not sure I understand what you're asking. I don't understand people worshiping this evil, degenerate sicko.

[RyDawg084]

My hero...I like smart people......

[MrGrevy]

@RyDawg084 He wasn't smart, he was just a manipulator. You should be ashamed for looking up to this trash. Hope you die horribly, and soon.

[RyDawg084]

@MrGrevy Thank you for your kind comment!!!!!....

[GuillermoTemblalanza]

@tastingo88

In Jeff Skilling We Trust!

[luvnworldpeace]

im not gonna lie, jeff skilling is my fucking idol

[RestoringAmerica2010]

mine too



[RestoringAmerica2010]

mine too

[tubub]

Classic Baby Boomer move.

[efisher88]

1st Timothy 6:10- "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." If you're so smart Skilling, how's come you ended up in prison?

efisher88 1 minute ago

[blattdanielmain]

@efisher88 He may be smart, but he isn't wise. It takes the wisdom of God to really see through your own desires. If your not controlled by the Spirit, your flesh will be.

[MsbacktoNYC]

ask why asshole.

[johnied8509]

the same thing is going on nowadays I was watching 60 minutes a month sgo and some white collar criminal did te same thing and he is in jail and won,t be getting out no time soon.

[SuttonSantiniPaulo]

So fucking smart, yet so dumb.

[WilliamRowlett]

When I was younger, I wanted to be rich. I wanted to live in a mansion, drive fancy cars, take nice vacations, etc. I'm almost 49 now and have never earned the "big riches". But I have a nice home, a nice 2009 Toyota Corolla w/ air conditioning in the color of my choice. I take nice vacations and use Priceline to save every penny I can. I grilled rib-eye steak last weekend at home. I'm a happy man. Jeff Skilling & Andy Fastow are in prison. Would they like to trade places with me right now?

[VictrolaJazz]

Well, Mr. Skilling, you're in a very tough culture, a very aggressive culture today, and will be for the rest of your life. Hope it was worth it!

[nathands]

The Private Sector Is Corrupt. The Public Sector Is Also Corrupt. The Choice To Me IS who do you want to lead the economy, the private sector whose leaders have at least some credentials, or politicians with NO Credentials except the need to pander to the lowest common denominator; in order to stay in power. PRIVATE SECTOR ALL THE WAY. ENRON GOT CAUGHT IN THE WALL STREET COG, and had to keep up. THE COG NEEDS TO BE SLOWED DOWN!!!

[ejdf870]

This is sickening. We've been brainwashed for decades to "be loyal" and serve the company, government, etc. What this film proves is that these rules have been put in place to benefit those in power. How convenient for the top dogs to tell me to 'stay in my place', while they reap HUGE financial rewards. I don't believe in any of this hypocritical crap. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I will take as much as I can and run before I die. Good thing I have good teachers.

[rk1717]

I think Ken Lay died

[VictrolaJazz]

I got a bad review in the middle of my third year, 2005, and was terminated. What they didn't realize was that I'd already decided to sell my home and move back to Waco. When the HR people called me into the conference room to terminate me, I listened to their spiel--then it made them sick to their stomachs when I told them it was fine, I had decided to quit anyway, but that way I got severence. When I got home in the middle of the day, my realtor had called with an offer for my place!

[VictrolaJazz]

Intracorp, where I worked for two years before I retired, and is owned by Cigna Healthcare, uses the crux of that PRC idea. On our orientation day, the HR person told us that we would be evaluated every year and the results would be done on the curve regardless of what they really were--if we were on the south end of the curve, then as she said "we'd just have to be rotated out", with a smirk.

[VictrolaJazz]

Skilling was a classic example of a 70's Me Generation person--and he's ruined his life forever for it. Yep it was a tough culture--they all got what they deserved! There are so many come-backs you run out of characters. Yep, it changed his system! Good riddance! I'm Conspiracy of Fools right now and he's one of the biggest.

[dumont1957]

I wonder if Jeff Skilling has an innovative "idea" of how his prison laundry can operate more efficiently.

[JimmyFox01]

Ask why, asshole.

This guy is awesome!!!

[clipobserver]

Guess he wasn't that f---ing smart.

[endorphine99]

"I'm fucking smart" love it, this guy was a genius.

[mastamase]

yo wut happened with enron, can some please tell me in a nutshell.

[penda3]

@mastamase Enron was a highly respected company that started out good and honest but started building up its business and profile based on forcasted revenues from ventures that for the most part fell through and ended up creating numerous debts instead. The company continued forward by lying, falsifying records, covering up their debts, and having other well known companies feed the scam until it got to the point where they the debts couldn't be hidden any longer and their cover was blown.

[GreyGhostly]

The first ETF

[oparunz]

I am fucking smart lol =)

[tdwhitney]

Greed and arrogance will always lead to a person's downfall. It never fails.

[mrhockey50]

@tdwhitney A real fucking genius, and my hero. unfortunately, he did nothing wrong. The liberals of course went nuts when he took advantage of their ludicrous, beurocratic regulations. greedy? absolutely, that what made him unbelievably rich. arrogant? dont think so, just clever, now ask your self what millionaire isnt?? THIS is what made America the best country in the WORLD! not the lazy union workers bitching about it. Now i suggest you except capitalism or move out of this great country.

[HoustonTexas457000]

@tdwhitney never ever fails.

[shroomduke]

Reaganism = ENRON this is the GREED IS GOOD, Ayn Rand "Virtue of Selfishness" Greedy, Avarice, Narcissistic, Sociopathic "WE ARE GOD", Tim Geithner, paul rubin, Jim Cramer, Gordon Gecko, Ivan Boesky, Michael Milken mentality that has led to the world greatest economic disaster in 80 years. Who wouldn't spend 3.5 years in prison for $100Million? would YOU?

[darksniper77]

@shroomduke Greed is a part of human nature. Even in socialist and communist societies where selfishness is condemned, it is seen, at just as large of a level as it is here. As Madison says in the Federalist Papers, the best way to deal with greed is acknowledge it and create a system that tolerates it.

[Hydra773]

@shroomduke

Search Milton Friedman Greed.

[GrantValdes]

Sounds like Skilling thought up cap 'n trade! Oh wait... Ken Lay actually did meet with Al Gore about setting up a CO2 derivatives market.

[bearstearn3]

jeff skilling was a genius

i want to grow up just like him

[adelbury]

U R A fucking moron

[TheHighwaytoHell]

1:10

haha

"I'm fucking smart."

[pfreise1]

Enron's motto was "Ask Why", yet employees and journalists that asked why were treated so harshly I hope SNL did a good skit on that one

[richardb5068]

are you kosraean cus if you go to kosrae there alot of skilling there and benjamin....so i think that were related cus i have the blood of a pirate...thats were skilling last name and benjamin last name are

[grizzleshnizzle]

The Selfish Gene is NOT about why or how or even if humans are selfish in nature...The title is misleading. Most ppl never read past the title and think its the reason why humans are selfish, it's not.

It's about altruism at its core and how evolution by natural selection is acted upon at the genetic level and not at the individual, the group or even the species as a whole. It's essentially a gene's eye view of evolution.

A truly remarkable book by Richard Dawkins, everyone should read it.

[sunlover518]

im glad they are all in prison

[imlivinitupniggaz]

@sunlover518 I think you meant, "I wish they were all in prison."

[98wongjf]

@sunlover518 Not all. One got away with it.

Of course he had to die to get out of it.

[derekw1572]

@sunlover518

except Ken Lay, he faked his own death and now sits on the beach.

[WorkTightProductions]

@sunlover518 Theyr'e actually dead.

[lialammas]

Animals....and they call themselves smart -good genes??

get a grip of reality.... you are all looser big time.

[alexeizhig900]

He Faked. His Death

1. Death cert. had time stamp dated the day before his death. Basalt police chief

did it at Aspen court house around 300 pm on the 4th of July. (Ikeda)

2. Coroner brought in from Mesa county.

3. Entered hospital as inpatient where one person works counter at night.

4. Collin Powell came to hospital next morning with stomach pains.

5. Sheriff is 26 years in office and was at fat farm that week.(Alcohol rehab.)

[brianjeng]

You guys are idiot the PRC review process is done similarly at GE

[forgetmepls]

a system to sack employees in terms of PRC performance.......... are bound to bring down a n organisation...

[joslone]

Bethany Mcclean Is Smoking Hott!!

[samskov]

Not exactly.

[xChRoMaTiCx820x]

skilling is god

[smitryan]

He must like those big guys with the BIG ideas where he's at now....

[boringlecture]

It's amazing that after he screwed over hundreds of thousands of people and caused a major power crisis in California, he's actually only serving a sentence in a low security prison in Colarado. He's going to be out on February 21, 2028.

[samskov]

Honestly, probably earlier.

[Vergadoce]

Why is a guy like this treated with kid gloves, but some drug dealer loses every asset, including his offshore bank accounts? I guarantee you that while Skilling is in jail, his family is living well off blood money and your children will be working for those fuckers. It should be legal to rob, loot, pillage and rape anyone in his family who still profits from this blood money. Fuck them

[samskov]

Because he committed a victimless crime. Drug dealers tend to kill people who get in their way. Try to understand the difference.

[Vergadoce]

Yeah, stealing someone's life savings, their retirement, etc. is "victimless." Look fucker, you try to break in my home and steal a bicycle and you'll have slugs in your chest. Stealing is stealing. And there's no such as a "victimless" crime when your life and your family's life is ruined. Try being robbed -- i have been -- and tell me that its victimless, you ignroant fuck. You make excuses for white collar scum probably because you are scum

[samskov]

Excuse my "ignroantce". I could care less about your petty theft story. Get over it. Please read a definition of victimless crime. You "ignroant" fuck. You make excuses for dumbasses probably because you are a dumbass.

This was fun. Please respond.

[LuniaVideo]

Victimless crime = crime in which an individual isn't "harmed."

If someone was to steal my retirement fund, I would sure as hell be hurt. `-`

[samskov]

Yes, but if you were shot I'm sure you would hurt a whole hell of a lot more.

[LuniaVideo]

Not really. You're comparing apples to oranges now. Emotional pain =/= physical pain.

`-`

[samskov]

I'm simply going by the legal standpoint. Emotional pain is too subjective.

[redletterchurch]

We should grade people on how responsible they are. We should reward responsibility...and punish irresponsibility. Bottom-line financial goals would be achieved...but via traveling the high-road instead of the low-road. This is a subtle yet profound tweaking of the capitalist model. Our capitalist system is currently very, very irresponsible...and we are about to lose it if we don't quickly restore legitimate law and order. We need to hire better referees. Some of the players need to be fired.

[virgopita]

I'm sure it's been said but to think; to have intelligence, peg into a market that yes had huge potential, you would have made millions anyway doing it right. Why did you risk everthing to make 200M over let's say 100M. I just will never get that kind of greed. Skilling may you serve the max term you were sentenced. I wish you no physical harm but you should suffer emotionally like your HONEST employees did the day they lost their savings and retirement

[INDICTMENTCOURT]

Another "HARVARD" IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL - Fraudster, Corrupt and taught to lie by the Harvard Professors at that Fraudulent IVY LEAGUE School of FRAUD !! "HARVARD" !

[fhamouie]

you dont know jack shit

[M1A1A8]

what a fucking piece of shit.

I hope he gets ass banged by the big dick gene on a daily basis, and he can sift out the selfish gene between his ass cheeks.

[redletterchurch]

Skilling is the smartest guy in his jail cell. Of course...Bubba is Jeff's competition. And Jeff is Bubba's Bitch. Why...why...why...Oh Yes!!!

[sfgiantsballin]

he's probably in a minimum security resort. i dont think he's getting raped in the ass.

[redletterchurch]

Constructive Competition is a good thing. Destructive Competition is evil. Enron was evil. My nomination for the Darwin Awards is Enron. Hey Enron! Out of the gene pool!

[M1A1A8]

what a fucking piece of shit.

I hope he gets ass banged by the big dick gene on a daily basis, and he can sift out the selfish gene between his ass cheeks.

[AW2378000000000000]

Can someone upload the entire movie? Thank you.