Hi Shawn, Just listened to your videos this winter. One question I have. Do you have an opinion on which S. Cameron detour putter is most effective. The original (which I believe you have) with the longer tail or the 2 / 2.5 style? Can't find any to look at or try. Would have to buy on line.
talk talk talk - blah blah blah - see the craziest putting style ever - see a dude make 3 - 22foot putts in 5secs - $100 challenge to anyone that can do the same - watch my video...
hey shawn...great videos by the way, but i wanted to know your take on the ideal putting "strike"...i think that the putter should be traveling on a slight UPSLOPE, while the face of the putter is delofted...as in the loft is less than 0 degress...I think this is why Phil stands behind the ball and has a hands foward impact,with ball foward of stance,.. becuase that produces the ideal strike to get the ball rolling foward and on the ground as soon as possible...what do you think?
Thank you for all your help. I find I tend to put better with a heavier putter around 360 gr. Newport style do you have thoughts on putter head weights? You might talk a little about toe hang and face balanced. For those who go out shopping. We but the putter in the store that sinks puts the problem is it sunk puts that day and that day only!
Shawn - What are your issues with the Learning Curve/Arc style ala Utley? Is it that, if you just focus on using perpetual momentum, you don't have think either arc or straight-back like Pelz?
I took Pelz's 1-day clinic. Didn't help my putting. Been using Utley's method for a year, and I have more feel, but still ave. 32 putts.
Hey Jon; exactly! As long as your body is in a balanced posture and the arm-club unit is hanging in balance from the shoulders, all you need to do is allow the momentum of your stroke to swing back and through in the direction you want the ball to go; like tossing a soft ball or a horse shoe, which are also tossed on an arc, there is no manipulation required! Simply let the putt go!
On the struck putts the follow through goes inside then the then the toe is pushed away from the body,
I think this is a side effect of the detour putter that causes a player to cut across the ball too much in my opinion it is a poorly designed putter. Because...
The line on the putter is for aLINEment before the stroke and helps get the blade square when you putt you should look at the ball to keep your head as still as possible not the putter!
Hey laceymania! I don't plumb bob as it is not really accurate with the putters most people use; if you want the best ways to find the break, see "the putting zone" with Geoff Mangum; he has developed some fantastic ways to aim the putter, read the greens, and find the right speed for your putts; check out his website and get his e-book; Shawn
Future video idea. Maybe talk about different ball lies. ie. Hitting out of a diviot, 1st cut, 2nd cut etc. How does the lie effect the ball flight etc. Thanks
Hey Shawn. Just want to say thank you for making golf more approachable. I grew up where only those with money could play. Now that I'm older and golf has many more doors open, I've taken it up as my favorite sport. I started 3 yrs ago and believe me when I say I stunk. I'm still working on my game, but your lessons have helped a lot. I am shooting consistantly in the lower 80's. Again thank you from Oklahoma.
hi shawn. seen the grip lessons but it has become a habit to grip the putter with the interlocking grip and i feel rather diffiucult to change the grip now. im an average putter and will it create a problem later on as my game progresses. pl comment on it shawn as ive received advice from my co golfers to change the grip.
Hey Crazymama! Have a look at my "golf pro lesson putt grip" video and you will see that your interlocking grip is not too far away from the double overlapping grip that many PGA tour players use; Thanks for the question! Shawn
Hi Shawn, enjoy your vid's. Got a putting question. Straight line vs Arc putting. On the arc there will only be one small point on the arc where the putter is square to the target, whereas straight line putting it's always straight, so what's the advantage of one over the other, also do you try and keep your eyes over the ball whichever way you use.
As you will see from the other putting videos I have, the putter and arms as one unit will find it's own arc once you are in a solid posture with the arm-putter unit hanging from the shoulder sockets; see the "Golf Pro lesson Perpetually putting" video for fine tuning; eyes over the ball is very secondary to posture and balance; once the line is established, you do not want to try to keep the putter on line; you let it ride the line with momentum and let momentum track it; the best!
ok i got a question when putting where suppose to be over the ball but when i putt and stand over the ball it feels wierd and that my putter is to long ... but when i go back to my original style of putting where da toe is like pointing up it feels fine.... well im jux wondering should i cut my putter down ?
Working on my putting here in the winter in Ohio, my question is I am trying to unlearn the right over the ball stance when putting, my knees should be slightly bent in address? in the method you are showing and letting my arms hang. Also very good tips on all your vids, I almost feel like stealing with all the info I have gained, THANKS again.
Yes; you want to have the very same posture as the "Posture and Balance" video with the arms and putter hanging in balance below the shoulders; same posture as the chipping in the "Nike Heavy Gloves" part 2 video...
Cross Handed, claw, saw, are all good; the key is feeling that the triangle of the shoulders, arms and putter swings with momentum as one unit; my wife is a great putter, she started putting way better after we switched her over to the cross handed grip...:) Shawn
Hi Shawn. Rutine is very importan, I had trained that meany meany times and a lot's of hours. Now I get a good rutine and have a well putt mutch of the time. But I find very quikley out that putting is something every golfer must train at. Maybe you cood teach us long putts, maybe I cood find out something new:)
Hey shawn, Is there any way you can make a video about judging the green? I know this is something that comes with much practice but my score are being destroyed because of 3 and 4 putts but cause of bad green judgment. =( -Mark
I have a nice 15 minute segment on my DVD on this one...:) Bottom line you need to think about where the water is going to go...find out where the drains are around the greens and if there was a deluge from a storm, where would the water go because any good designer will not let it pool on the greens!! It will go there either directly or indirectly...Shawn
Thanks for the video Shawn, I am a right handed player but i have my left hand on the bottom and leading in my putting stroke, I would like do know if you have tried the long putters, and whats the benefits/disadvantages of them, Right now I am using a putter that is about the same as a mini golf putter Ekk..
hi Shawn, I have a face balanced putter (one of those Yes! Tracy models). I've read (Stan Utley), that the face balanced putters inhibit the natural curve and release of a putting stroke, and are better suited for a Dave Pelz style stroke.
I prefer the putting stroke which you and Utley talk about, so do you think I should be using a putter with toe hang....or is it all just personal preference?
As long as the putter allows you to set up the way I show you and feels good during the stroke you are fine; watch your stroke in the mirror from down the line view and see what the arc looks like and feel if the putter flows with or against this motion; Shawn
Hi Shawn, Just listened to your videos this winter. One question I have. Do you have an opinion on which S. Cameron detour putter is most effective. The original (which I believe you have) with the longer tail or the 2 / 2.5 style? Can't find any to look at or try. Would have to buy on line.
jbonde2009 5 days ago
Hey Shawn - what are your thoughts on belly putters? My local pro said "it's just easier" (with a belly putter that is).
terps2703 4 months ago
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ASTHERADIOPLAYS 6 months ago
muscle memory
juicemanej87 1 year ago
good advice, i just got an od white ice #1, im missing everything short an right. i need to work on my stroke. any advice on a game plane?
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pawndominance1 1 year ago
hey shawn...great videos by the way, but i wanted to know your take on the ideal putting "strike"...i think that the putter should be traveling on a slight UPSLOPE, while the face of the putter is delofted...as in the loft is less than 0 degress...I think this is why Phil stands behind the ball and has a hands foward impact,with ball foward of stance,.. becuase that produces the ideal strike to get the ball rolling foward and on the ground as soon as possible...what do you think?
pawndominance1 1 year ago
I like the way you use the frindge to highlight your natural back and through arch..
golfdaddie69 2 years ago
Hi Shawn,
Thank you for all your help. I find I tend to put better with a heavier putter around 360 gr. Newport style do you have thoughts on putter head weights? You might talk a little about toe hang and face balanced. For those who go out shopping. We but the putter in the store that sinks puts the problem is it sunk puts that day and that day only!
ballafishxxx 2 years ago
Hey shawn, do you have a general rule of thumb on reading putts?
devosooner 2 years ago
Shawn - What are your issues with the Learning Curve/Arc style ala Utley? Is it that, if you just focus on using perpetual momentum, you don't have think either arc or straight-back like Pelz?
I took Pelz's 1-day clinic. Didn't help my putting. Been using Utley's method for a year, and I have more feel, but still ave. 32 putts.
Jon
tigerwoodcourt 2 years ago
Hey Jon; exactly! As long as your body is in a balanced posture and the arm-club unit is hanging in balance from the shoulders, all you need to do is allow the momentum of your stroke to swing back and through in the direction you want the ball to go; like tossing a soft ball or a horse shoe, which are also tossed on an arc, there is no manipulation required! Simply let the putt go!
clemshaw 2 years ago
There is a reason you can get he putter cheaper than cost.
I have a normal blade scotty cameron cant go wrong with that.
MrOlly555 2 years ago
the practise strokes are perfect'
On the struck putts the follow through goes inside then the then the toe is pushed away from the body,
I think this is a side effect of the detour putter that causes a player to cut across the ball too much in my opinion it is a poorly designed putter. Because...
The line on the putter is for aLINEment before the stroke and helps get the blade square when you putt you should look at the ball to keep your head as still as possible not the putter!
MrOlly555 2 years ago
Hey Shawn, Great DVDs and videos.
Do you believe in plumb bobbing when reading putts?
laceymania 2 years ago
Hey laceymania! I don't plumb bob as it is not really accurate with the putters most people use; if you want the best ways to find the break, see "the putting zone" with Geoff Mangum; he has developed some fantastic ways to aim the putter, read the greens, and find the right speed for your putts; check out his website and get his e-book; Shawn
clemshaw 2 years ago
Your Great !! :)
phips197 2 years ago
Future video idea. Maybe talk about different ball lies. ie. Hitting out of a diviot, 1st cut, 2nd cut etc. How does the lie effect the ball flight etc. Thanks
holdemstacy 2 years ago
It is on my list! Now I have to get the time...:) This september I should get enough reprieve to get out there and do a couple for you guys!
Shawn
clemshaw 2 years ago
Hey Shawn. Just want to say thank you for making golf more approachable. I grew up where only those with money could play. Now that I'm older and golf has many more doors open, I've taken it up as my favorite sport. I started 3 yrs ago and believe me when I say I stunk. I'm still working on my game, but your lessons have helped a lot. I am shooting consistantly in the lower 80's. Again thank you from Oklahoma.
holdemstacy 2 years ago
I don't have the 999.79$ required to pay for that sexy putter :(
Parizeau21 2 years ago
Isn't it just a Detour?
bogeyhitter25 2 years ago
Yep
clemshaw 2 years ago
Get it on Ebay! One of my students got it cheaper than $200.00 which was better than cost!
clemshaw 2 years ago
hi shawn. seen the grip lessons but it has become a habit to grip the putter with the interlocking grip and i feel rather diffiucult to change the grip now. im an average putter and will it create a problem later on as my game progresses. pl comment on it shawn as ive received advice from my co golfers to change the grip.
crazymama1000 2 years ago
Hey Crazymama! Have a look at my "golf pro lesson putt grip" video and you will see that your interlocking grip is not too far away from the double overlapping grip that many PGA tour players use; Thanks for the question! Shawn
clemshaw 2 years ago
Hi Shawn, enjoy your vid's. Got a putting question. Straight line vs Arc putting. On the arc there will only be one small point on the arc where the putter is square to the target, whereas straight line putting it's always straight, so what's the advantage of one over the other, also do you try and keep your eyes over the ball whichever way you use.
Regards
James
justjames1111 2 years ago
Hey James;
As you will see from the other putting videos I have, the putter and arms as one unit will find it's own arc once you are in a solid posture with the arm-putter unit hanging from the shoulder sockets; see the "Golf Pro lesson Perpetually putting" video for fine tuning; eyes over the ball is very secondary to posture and balance; once the line is established, you do not want to try to keep the putter on line; you let it ride the line with momentum and let momentum track it; the best!
clemshaw 2 years ago
ok i got a question when putting where suppose to be over the ball but when i putt and stand over the ball it feels wierd and that my putter is to long ... but when i go back to my original style of putting where da toe is like pointing up it feels fine.... well im jux wondering should i cut my putter down ?
AlexanderBrandonLy 2 years ago
Hey Alex; Sorry for the delay!
Go see a reputable fitter who is also a PGA instructor; he will tell you; Shawn
clemshaw 2 years ago
Working on my putting here in the winter in Ohio, my question is I am trying to unlearn the right over the ball stance when putting, my knees should be slightly bent in address? in the method you are showing and letting my arms hang. Also very good tips on all your vids, I almost feel like stealing with all the info I have gained, THANKS again.
hfaceyjr 3 years ago
Yes; you want to have the very same posture as the "Posture and Balance" video with the arms and putter hanging in balance below the shoulders; same posture as the chipping in the "Nike Heavy Gloves" part 2 video...
Thanks for the comment! Shawn
clemshaw 3 years ago
oki, thanks:D
Andersbigno 3 years ago
Dont worry and Thanks
TheHoyster13 3 years ago
What do you think about the reverse putting grip?? What would you suggest?
TheHoyster13 3 years ago
Sorry about the delay Hoyster!
Cross Handed, claw, saw, are all good; the key is feeling that the triangle of the shoulders, arms and putter swings with momentum as one unit; my wife is a great putter, she started putting way better after we switched her over to the cross handed grip...:) Shawn
clemshaw 3 years ago
Hi Shawn. Rutine is very importan, I had trained that meany meany times and a lot's of hours. Now I get a good rutine and have a well putt mutch of the time. But I find very quikley out that putting is something every golfer must train at. Maybe you cood teach us long putts, maybe I cood find out something new:)
Anders
Andersbigno 3 years ago
Hey Anders; thank you for your comment;
I do have that putting video; just look in the "Short Game section" of the "You Tube Shawn" page of my website;
Shawn
clemshaw 3 years ago
Hey shawn, Is there any way you can make a video about judging the green? I know this is something that comes with much practice but my score are being destroyed because of 3 and 4 putts but cause of bad green judgment. =( -Mark
Strategicality 3 years ago
I have a nice 15 minute segment on my DVD on this one...:) Bottom line you need to think about where the water is going to go...find out where the drains are around the greens and if there was a deluge from a storm, where would the water go because any good designer will not let it pool on the greens!! It will go there either directly or indirectly...Shawn
clemshaw 3 years ago
Thanks for the video Shawn, I am a right handed player but i have my left hand on the bottom and leading in my putting stroke, I would like do know if you have tried the long putters, and whats the benefits/disadvantages of them, Right now I am using a putter that is about the same as a mini golf putter Ekk..
llBoyliciousll 3 years ago
thanks u helped me a hole lot!!!!!!!
chesney19 3 years ago
Good vid Shawn. Been jabbing at my putts and your comment about flow / falling hopefully will help. Thx.
FairwayJack 3 years ago
Hi Shawn, Many thanks from Australia for all your great videos. I would appreciate your comments/video regarding the use of the long putter?
slkeays 3 years ago
the putting arc training aid aint that great. type in 'brian manzella sherrif' into youtube for the best putting training aid ever
pecky1234 3 years ago
ok that doesnt work lol
type in brian manzella, go on his profile and watch the video 'the sheriff'
pecky1234 3 years ago
hi Shawn, I have a face balanced putter (one of those Yes! Tracy models). I've read (Stan Utley), that the face balanced putters inhibit the natural curve and release of a putting stroke, and are better suited for a Dave Pelz style stroke.
I prefer the putting stroke which you and Utley talk about, so do you think I should be using a putter with toe hang....or is it all just personal preference?
wjwj1979 3 years ago
Hey WJWJ;
As long as the putter allows you to set up the way I show you and feels good during the stroke you are fine; watch your stroke in the mirror from down the line view and see what the arc looks like and feel if the putter flows with or against this motion; Shawn
clemshaw 3 years ago
that was good. I have had a problem starting the stroke smooth. This helps!
kmh196700 3 years ago