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This guy is a joke. He is a huckster that will say anything he can get away with. As a former dentist he pretends he knows what he is talking about. Snake oil salesman comes to mind. What a fraud!
..."you cant go into a well lit room full of truth and wisdom and righteousness and joy and health and harmony with the universal power with any amount of darkness and go into that room and have any effect what so ever" .... it took the Illuminati life times of breath to try and blow it out but God willing the truth can still be seen. Be the fuel and brighten the flame.
@ 4:04 LOL Adolf Hitler? Well if its all about emotions then I guess if a Palestinian were to say JEW over the water then it would come out looking like crap as well.
this is exactly what 2012 is all about.. its a paradigm shift. the world is not goin to end, it is mankinds old beliefs that are ending. . Humanity is EVOLVING.
Einstein owes much of his success to his wife - whom he did not treat very well. She filled in where his Aunt left off. A shame women's key contributions are "forgotten/ignored"!
See: Einsteins Wife/ The Story of Mileva Maric Einstein on PBS.
I don't know so much about the "water", but believe everything is vibration, frequency, & energy. It's up to us to make sure we align ourselves with, and allow positive energy. It is one of lifes easiest and lightest healing gifts.
I've watched some great videos about cymatics which pretty much proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that vibration is very much the creation of creation. The many levels of reality are all based upon infinite vibrations giving inifinite possiblities of how you experience that reality. You are experiencing this moment due to the vibration of this parallel earth.
Be careful of using terms like "proves beyond the shadow of a doubt" so carelessly. No, these things have not been proven to that extent (or at all). If that was the case we'd see this in text books, and taught in universities. Those that employ pseudo-science in explaining flim-flam are great at SEEMING scientific, but to experts their claims are dismantled quite easily. Google "What the Bleep" and "debunked" and you'll get a glimpse at the gist of what I'm talking about.
What needs to be expanded on? I was very clear. These experiments were conducted numerous times and never replicated. The Dr.'s claims/studies were done completely independently so they are more a matter of testimony than scientific fact. Do the research, cross reference James Randi and the topic on google and you'll get plenty of information.
No, I didn't miss the point, I just know that the point is based entirely on BS, and that this man is a huckster. Thanks for playing and and happy new year.
..the point being: Step out of the box. Did you hear talk of different paradigms, realms? Some call it a new OS for your biocomputer.. surely that is not scientifically backed.. works for me tho ;) Peace
@dreadyloxx Step out of the box? I'd say you're the one who's in the box not me. You are in the box of believing unsubstantiated claims that have no credible evidence to back themselves up. With that mentality you could be persuaded to believe in anything, like "this invisible pink unicorn really exists, you just have to step outside the box to believe it!".
Not my cup of tea? Dreadyloxx, facts are not like music or a pair of jeans, you don't know they are true because you like how they sound or fit with what you'd like to be so, you believe them because you have sound reason to... I don't "take myself seriously at all", as I think my videos clearly demonstrate. The only thing that shouldn't be taken so seriously here are the claims of this video...
Nope, it's not valid as it did not pass the rigor's of the peer review process. On top of that Radin, has been widely regarded as a fraud for years now who attempts to pass off pseudo science for the real thing. At the end of the day what matters is creating circumstances that can be replicated by others in a controlled testing environrment, all attempts to do this by unbiased professionals have failed.
I'm with dreadyloxx's train of thought. Step outside the box, bro. Some things you can't prove with our traditional senses. Go outside around noon and look at the stars. What's ther matter, you can't see them? Of course, they're there but you can't prove it with your 20/20 vision.
If you blow a dog whistle, a dog will hear it but you won't. Why not? Can you prove the dog has better hearing than you? Can you prove that sound exists just because you can't hear it?
What? Of course we can prove that a dog whistle emits sound. We don't take that claim on faith, there are numerous ways we have to discovered to detect such a thing. Comparing paranormal claims to the existence of the stars is ridiculous when we have thousands upon thousands of ways to verify they are there. We have no such thing with paranormal claims. Why don't I step outside the box? Why don't you believe in fairies? Come on man, step outside the box, already!!!
this is outside the box. if we all came from one, then this is a dream, because in the end, we're all dreaming the same dream. Can I prove it? No, I don't have to.
@in5d Wow, if only the world worked under the premise that if you verbally detach yourself from the responsibility of proof then you don't have to provide any. You could get away with anything! Unfortunately there is a shared reality, and if you care to make assertions that hold water inside of it you do have to back up your claims...
@vad: then explain creation. You can't and you have no proof to support any statement regarding this, which is EXACTLY my point. Some things, you don't need to have a hypothesis and empirical data to support the evidence.
Wait, so I can't explain the way the universe began therefore you don't have to back up any of your claims? That's ludicrous... There are actually many ways to explain this. Most of the arguments are easily dismissed because they are claims with no evidence whatsoever to back them up. The claims that ARE taken seriously, such as the BB, have lots of science backing them up to warrant them as a valid hypothesis. So yes, you do need evidence to make a worthy claim even about that!
@in5d Nassim Haramein has a pretty technical breakdown of the nature of the universe and it gives a sort of a principal for matter creation, energy, life ect...
No. If something exists there are means (even if we haven't developed them) of detecting it. It's a weak argument though because I could easily say "there is an invisible moose that hovers over all our heads that enables us to breathe, take my word for it, it's just that science hasn't developed a way to prove this." Well, in order to believe that you would need credible evidence, and it would be lacking, and you would therefore be wise in not believing the claim.
It is unwise to discount all information on the basis of lack of credible evidence. It is wise to be open to the POSSIBILITY of all ideas regardless of credible evidence. The evidence of truth is logic, and self discernment. How do you think all credible evidence comes about? First, something is imagined, then they attempt to test and measure the idea. You are missing the first step. My point is, credible evidence is not needed for truthful concepts to be understood.
@Indigozek - I didn't miss your point I just know that it's a fallacious argument. If credible evidence is not needed then why then don't you believe every single claim that every religion has to offer? Because you don't see any reason to believe them! They offer no evidence!
It IS wise to discount info without evidence, otherwise all one is left with is a claim that has nothing to support itself and every liar in the world could perpetrate hoaxes left and right...
Lastly this study IS an attempt to offer detectable evidence of ESP. I have stated why science believes it is logically reasonable to assume it was a hoax and why the data it reported is BS. Now do you see the irony here? If the study was real then you'd say "AHA! Clear scientific evidence on it's behalf!" and when one shows the study to be bogus then all of a sudden scientific evidence isn't needed anymore... How convenient.
I don't believe every claim that religion has to offer because of my current perception. As you gain understanding, discernment of truth becomes easier. I understand what religion is, and the intent of those who organize and promote it. Scientific analysis and proof of existence is limited by advancement in technology. If you only believe things that can be proven, then your perception will be limited.
Look, of course we are limited by that which we can perceive technologically, but again, I am merely shedding light on claims that are being made saying that the evidence IS there, and it simply isn't... There are indeed times to believe things that arent 100% verifiable but even then you would require REASONS to believe. There are no reasons to believe here and if you decide to believe it knowing full well that the study itself was shown to be a fraud then what won't you believe?
I agree with the information expressed in this video because it changes my perception, which changes my thoughts, which changes my actions, which changes my experience, and the experience of others. Through my intent and desire for more joyful experiences, I am drawn to credible sources which I believe contain truth. You will not experience things that you do not believe are possible, but you may experience things that you do believe.
You agree with the information in this video simply because you would like it to be true, the same reason why any religious person believes their baseless unsubstantiated claims. There is another word for it, faith.
And you Will experience things you do not believe. You may not believe gravity will kick in if you jump out a window, but you will fall just the same if you do.
It's good to keep an open mind, but not so much that your brain falls out.
INTENT is the underlying factor of discernment. If a source claims that another source is false, then who is to believe? Only through understanding the intent of the source, will you know what to believe. Do you understand the intent of the people who are sharing this information? They do not intend to be correct, they intend to discover, and help others. Which is also my intent.
You are really spouting so much mumbo jumbo it's hard to keep track. Intent is NOT the underlying factor, if that was the case then everyone seeking god from every religion would have found him.
If another source claims another is false then intent is meaningless, as people can be wrong without knowing it. People propagate dangerous myths all the time that lead to unhealthy psychology or behavior with the intent to do good.... (cont)
Lastly I really don't understand, if you are the least bit concerned with intent and truth, why you would critisize me for pointing out an aspect of this argument (the point upon which this video centers) which has been shown to be fraudulent? If these things truly matter to you you should thank me for bringing this to light...
Well I hold a great deal of it in question, and the messages the videomaker created painting global warming as a hoax is absolute BS, but the point that I began with is that the work of Dr. Emoto on the effects of prayer and meditation on water have never been replicated by experts in controlled tests. Couple this with the fact that Emoto was offered a million dollars to replicate the results in such an arena and didn't I think more than points to the whole thing being a fraud.
if 6billion people started actually BELIEVING the sky is purple, would it not be? same things works en mass for experiements also. skepticism is a force also...
I call utter bullshit on your comment. No, the sky would not turn purple if 6 billion people believed it. Millions of people have believed in the second coming of Christ for decades and thats only produced visions of JC in oil slicks and toast.
Are you actually saying that the power of skepticism foiled the experiment? Come on! Not to mention in a DOUBLE BLIND TEST the tester doesnt know whats what, so there is no way to effect the results positively or negatively.
Oh for craps sake. YES, of course I understood that vibrations was the premise upon which the science was SUPPOSED to work, but it DIDN'T. The testing was never duplicated when put to the test, numerous times! This points to it being a most certain fraud. Now do YOU understand???
In this case, test results depend on the person conducting the experiment. There are more factors that may be involved such as intent. The point is that we are beginning to understand how human beings can affect or even communicate with water. If that is possible, it means that we can communicate with nature because everything contains water. Nature has an incredible amount of information, and one plant has direct communication with every other plant on this planet.
You would very much like this to be true, but cold facts prove otherwise. If it were real Dr.Emoto would offer his results up for peer review (the standard by which the scientific world proclaims work to be valid) but he does not. The man claimed that he performed scientific tests and has not over seen the duplication of the tests and denied offers of 1 million dollars to duplicate said tests... There simply would be NO reason for this if it wasn't fraud.
Too valuable??? How is utter bullshit valuable at all? Do you feel the same way about Bigfoot? The point is that we shouldn't hold on to random claims that do not stand the most basic scrutiny. Why do you believe the claims of one man who did not keep accurate records of his study, got his M.D. from a degree factory in India for about 500$, and hasn't published a single controlled scientific experiment in a credible peer-reviewed journal? All signs point to Bullshit.
I intend to discover, you intend to be correct. There are similarities between this discussion and the studies done in the area of water consciousness. While both are important, a discovery must be made before it can be replicated, proven, and understood.
Well maybe you should "intend to discover" something that's not a fraud, and while you're at it, please dont presume what I "intend" to be, it's arrogant to speak on my behalf.
Now I have offered a near air-tight case as to why one has excellent reasons to assume the entire thing was a hoax and you've provided nothing to counter them. And how is your final point relevant to ANYTHING? I think you're just throwing in science jargon to sound like you comprehend things.
Your words show your intentions. It is a waste of energy to further explain the importance of understanding how we can affect or even communicate with water. I have nothing to lose if I am "wrong", but I have much to gain by pondering possibilities.
Well unlike you, I won't presume your intentions, but you do seem to be far more concerned with keeping that which you'd like to be true alive than with grasping the actual truth.
My only intention is to shed light on the truth of the matter. If you really are open minded and exercise just a small bit of rational thinking, you'll realize there isn't any evidence to believe Emoto's claims, because he refused to provide ANY.
Do you have nothing to lose? Personally I feel as though my time and energy is wasted invested on conartists. I think you believe I am coming at this too skeptically but I am only asking for the evidence that Emoto claimed to have been there in the first place. If the experiments were successfully executed at one time, there is no reason they should not be repeatable and why he should not publish his results. Why are those two things not suspicious in your eyes?
I am not sure. Maybe the other people who conducted the "same" experiment did not include EVERY required condition that emoto had. This is my belief, all is vibration, 528hz is the measurement of the vibration of love, humans can produce this vibration, specific frequencies have beneficial influence, water structure is affected by vibration. Therefore, water structure can be changed with human input. "tests" are not needed for logical concepts.
Yes! That would be a credible reason for it not being a success. But in the world of science, legitimate practitioners make their work available so the tests can be repeated. Emoto has refused to do such! He published CLAIMS of his work, but never showed evidence of it AND never submitted his work for peer review. Tests ARE needed for logical concepts, thats what makes them logic. You can not find anything accepted as logic by science which cant be put to a test.
I do not care about the validity of his experiments. The point is that it opens new possibilities. What if water responds to human intent or specific input? What if water can be programmed to be beneficial to human beings? What if humans can influence water, and receive a response? What if water holds information within its structure that we may be able to understand through this type of communication? Surely there is SOMETHING to learn from water. Everything on the planet contains water.
You don't care about the validity of his experiments??? But his experiments would prove or disprove ALL of the questions you are raising. So the validity of his experiments should be the most essential component of the equation.... NO NEW POSSIBILLITIES ARE OPEN IF THE EXPERIMENTATION IS FRAUDULENT.
What you are saying is the same as : "the fact that there is no evidence to the existence of unicorns is unimportant, the point is that unicorns open new possibillities. What if unicorns can heal the sick? What if unicorns can communicate with humans and..???" All of these what ifs are meaningless because we know almost certainly that they don't exist. You are saying that even if you knew the work was a fraud, you'd still believe it. There no logic to your reasoning.
You cannot be 100% certain that unicorns are non-existent, unless one day a unicorn presents itself, and you are unable to see it because of limited beliefs. I don't need outdated scientific "evidence" to validate my beliefs, self discernment is all that is needed. Know this, anything can be faked, including information that disproves valuable concepts. Knowing that, what can prove or disprove anything? Your own intuition and perception, nothing else.
"You cannot be 100% certain that unicorns are non-existent, unless one day a unicorn presents itself."
YES! There is an small possibility that ANYTHING is true, so what do we do as logical beings? We look to EVIDENCE to determine what is credible and what isn't.
" I don't need outdated scientific "evidence" to validate my beliefs"... Outdated???? Yes, I don't think anyone should use "outdated" scientific evidence. We agree again!!!
All of todays science is outdated. Most new valuable concepts that are coming forth cannot be tested with our current technology. Until we both have a similar understanding and perception of existence, this discussion is a waste of energy. Do you fully understand how this reality we are experiencing manifests?
Wow, I could take a great deal of pretty awesome pot shots with the comments you just left but I'll just say this...
If you take a look at my arguments and commit yourself to being intellectually honest about the matter, you will concede that I made a very good case for why Emoto's work can and should be dismissed and why the scientific community regards it as bogus. You're obviously not an imbecile, so I know you can figure it out if you try... p.s. I enjoyed your guitar solo :)
I agree and completely understand what you are saying. While scientific credibility and evidence is important for understanding concepts, I prefer to dream and explore, rather than justify. I have learned some lessons from this discussion so I thank you. I am glad you enjoyed my short song too haha.
What you call "self discernment" I call faith. Faith has led man to believe in everything from ZEUS, to unicorns, to fairies and so on, EVIDENCE + SCIENCE brought us the theory of relativity and the technology that allows you to be reading this comment right now... Intuition is always fallible and since there is such a thing as a SHARED REALITY, we look to the validated information inside that reality to make wise decisions... (cont)
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202)
Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p. 214)
Einstein's use of the word god was always as a sort of metaphor to describe the mysteries of physics and the natural world, this is known by scientists and historians alike. His only objection to being quoted by atheists is that he disliked their strident approach, not disagreed with their views.
To take the quotes which you used out of context and use them falsely as a record of a supposed belief is to rob them of their nuance and to exploit them into something Einstien never intended.
Lastly gigi, I just have to say that you are clearly the arrogant one of the two of us. I never even disputed the existence of god within any of the comments I left and yet you jumped straight into this BS point and incorrectly used an adamant atheist to support your sanctimonious attack against me... The facts do NOT support your claim and FYI, the fact that you started your initial comment with "you need to cleanse your colon" displayed your demented grossness right off the bat.
I did not say that Einstien went to church, or he was Penticostal or anything like that, all I said was he believed in God the Creator. And these videos are about exactly that. You have a history of picking on anyone with your "scientific" mind. Keep it to yourself and let other be. Some of us had enough "evidence", we want to go beyong that...if that is okay with you.
And cleansing your colon is not a demented grossness. You better research the subject before calling me demented.
He did not believe in a Creator God. He spoke of God as a metaphor for nature, that is NOT a creator god. Furthermore it is clear he had NO BELIEF IN AN AFTERLIFE, so evidently, if he DID even believe in a deistic god, that god did not endow him with a soul. You put the term scientific mind in quotes as if that is a bad thing
My mind is only scientific compared to yours, and I think it's really sad that you seem to intimate that would even be a bad thing. The truth is you want to hear nothing of true science, because when it is applied to things such as this video you are defending, the empty claims of it are shattered and your faith in it is exposed as blind.
And lastly, Why on earth are you so obsessed with my butt-hole? The whole reason why I said it was demented had nothing to do with whether or not I believe colonics are healthy (yes they are!).
It had EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was just a gross and ridiculous way to open your argument to me. You act as if I'm some kind of bully, but you're the one who pre-emptively copped the condescending attitude. Please grow up.
In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)
You will find this is true if you research properly and furthermore if you scour for more quotes in which Eisntein does discuss this elusive god you will NEVER find a quote that supports a belief in a biblical interpretation of god...
"It was of course a lie about my religous convictions, a lie that is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and have not denied this but have expressed it clearly." - Einstein
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
No. The negative results had NOTHING to do with intent, nor could it. First of all the testing was DOUBLE BLIND. Second of all they used yogis to participate as the meditators, not random skeptical scientists. And lastly, EVEN IF they (hypothetically) did use someone who did not have what you deem as "proper intent", then they still should have turned into "ugly water" or something of that sort. There was NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER. So your "point" about us "communicating with water" is a fantasy.
That has nothing to do with the validity of the experiment. If the tests were valid then there is no reason why the results should not have been the same given they were performed under the same conditions numerous times.
I have read and seen much on QP that attempts to explain paranormal phenomena, the doc "What the Bleep.." comes to mind... The science is always misinterpreted vastly whenever I see these feeble explanations. (cont)
And in the case of "What the Bleep" all the reputable scientists interviewed in that film were extremely upset with the result of that film (which according to them) took them completely out of context and presented their ideas in a manner that was bogus...
QT is a fascinating theory, but attempts to explain away the matters at hand simply fail when the science is presented correctly. And like I said, even if that wasn't the case it couldn't possibly explain emoto, which was a fraud.
Who are 'we' up against? It was a great video up until he cast evil out.
volkswagoncampervan 1 month ago
Ok so who is on the losing team? Who are 'we' up against?
volkswagoncampervan 1 month ago
I wonder if we really get sick and get disease or we are just told we will inevitably get it depending on who we are.
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MrMaryHalpin 8 months ago
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IconoclastRocks 8 months ago
Well spoken,thank you
warsarewrong 9 months ago
Absolutely AMAZING info! *Thank u so very much<33
Tanyadoll33 9 months ago
I don't get what are the pictures @ 3:50.....? What are they meant to resemble or mean!
UniversalAbundance69 10 months ago
Simple and beautifully spoken intelligently, uplifting!!!!!!!!
ohboymaestro 10 months ago
This is one of the most in tune beautiful speeches I have ever heard. I love you all.
ThirdEye4103 10 months ago 2
@altonnukem If there is no Creator....then you my friend are just a loud-mouth illusion with no soul
Blughostin 11 months ago
And now the war on God begins,
At stroke of midnight God will win.
W B Yates
zincali 1 year ago
He sell illusion and bury the truth. What a shame
vichuda1000 1 year ago
i believe in Algore
vichuda1000 1 year ago
This guy is a joke. He is a huckster that will say anything he can get away with. As a former dentist he pretends he knows what he is talking about. Snake oil salesman comes to mind. What a fraud!
psulla 1 year ago
@altonnukem lol I feel sorry for you.
dicamango 1 year ago
..."you cant go into a well lit room full of truth and wisdom and righteousness and joy and health and harmony with the universal power with any amount of darkness and go into that room and have any effect what so ever" .... it took the Illuminati life times of breath to try and blow it out but God willing the truth can still be seen. Be the fuel and brighten the flame.
2DogzNC 1 year ago
Good presentation. Horowitz is a smart and convincing person to have on our side of the truth.
abcbraveheart 1 year ago
@ 4:04 LOL Adolf Hitler? Well if its all about emotions then I guess if a Palestinian were to say JEW over the water then it would come out looking like crap as well.
QuantumDick 1 year ago
@QuantumDick LOL Hitler was a jew in fact
maninthehood 1 year ago
I'm thankful for what this video has revealed to me!
vickim247 1 year ago
in the movie ,down the rabbit hole it speaks of the water,great stuff
dedset1 1 year ago
this is exactly what 2012 is all about.. its a paradigm shift. the world is not goin to end, it is mankinds old beliefs that are ending. . Humanity is EVOLVING.
iAMr3VOLution1 1 year ago
Outstanding!
kayzon7 1 year ago
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JESUS is Lord
SUPRADUDE1631 1 year ago
JESUS is Lord.
SUPRADUDE1631 1 year ago
good metaphor :D
SpotTheCaper 1 year ago
Einstein was raised by his Aunt who was a Christian Scientist. He was told he couldn't learn in school, and true to CS, his aunt refused this claim.
nimbostratusdweller 1 year ago
Einstein owes much of his success to his wife - whom he did not treat very well. She filled in where his Aunt left off. A shame women's key contributions are "forgotten/ignored"!
See: Einsteins Wife/ The Story of Mileva Maric Einstein on PBS.
melodyrecord 1 year ago
@melodyrecord Einsetin was a thief he stole the science
maninthehood 1 year ago
Nicely presented!
Thank you.
ElectroPaganAnon 1 year ago
WAKE UP
Infinite Love is the Only Truth
00Conscience 1 year ago
Awesome.
zxzrp0 1 year ago
the new world order WILL fall
blowngdw 2 years ago 19
Word!
Lateralus1019 2 years ago
no magic bullet, trust healer within
one love :)
createrainbowz 2 years ago
can you add polish sub's?
o0kizzle0o 2 years ago
illness is your way of creating a lesson in order to learn to recall exactly who u are...
SovereignBeing 2 years ago
I don't know so much about the "water", but believe everything is vibration, frequency, & energy. It's up to us to make sure we align ourselves with, and allow positive energy. It is one of lifes easiest and lightest healing gifts.
Allellia 2 years ago 5
sorry but i believe this is bullshit.you must stop swallowing rubbish like this!believe in yourself
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garden333 2 years ago
Do a search on Sun Gazing.
garden333 2 years ago
Look directly into the sun.
Indigozek 2 years ago
great video, its all about reclaiming self responsibility..
no more playing the blame game folks.!..
SovereignBeing 2 years ago
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teganjames 2 years ago
Sorry dear Friend, that I just have the time to revisit your postings. Thanks for this one as well.
Will be back on both of them.
Have a great evening.
Lisa
Sundrumify 2 years ago
I learned about this on what the bleep do we know
NWOpartycrasher 2 years ago
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Nice video my friend :) 5*****
f33dth3f1r3 2 years ago
I've watched some great videos about cymatics which pretty much proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that vibration is very much the creation of creation. The many levels of reality are all based upon infinite vibrations giving inifinite possiblities of how you experience that reality. You are experiencing this moment due to the vibration of this parallel earth.
Agui007 2 years ago
@Agui007
Be careful of using terms like "proves beyond the shadow of a doubt" so carelessly. No, these things have not been proven to that extent (or at all). If that was the case we'd see this in text books, and taught in universities. Those that employ pseudo-science in explaining flim-flam are great at SEEMING scientific, but to experts their claims are dismantled quite easily. Google "What the Bleep" and "debunked" and you'll get a glimpse at the gist of what I'm talking about.
vadimcream 2 years ago
Are you aware of subtle energy or dark matter?
Agui007 2 years ago
@Agui007
Yes. Why?
vadimcream 2 years ago
no explanation needed :)
in5d 2 years ago
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Indigozek 2 years ago
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Indigozek 2 years ago
What needs to be expanded on? I was very clear. These experiments were conducted numerous times and never replicated. The Dr.'s claims/studies were done completely independently so they are more a matter of testimony than scientific fact. Do the research, cross reference James Randi and the topic on google and you'll get plenty of information.
vadimcream 2 years ago
what was very clear was your ego, maybe you missed the point..
dreadyloxx 2 years ago
No, I didn't miss the point, I just know that the point is based entirely on BS, and that this man is a huckster. Thanks for playing and and happy new year.
vadimcream 2 years ago
..the point being: Step out of the box. Did you hear talk of different paradigms, realms? Some call it a new OS for your biocomputer.. surely that is not scientifically backed.. works for me tho ;) Peace
dreadyloxx 2 years ago
@dreadyloxx Step out of the box? I'd say you're the one who's in the box not me. You are in the box of believing unsubstantiated claims that have no credible evidence to back themselves up. With that mentality you could be persuaded to believe in anything, like "this invisible pink unicorn really exists, you just have to step outside the box to believe it!".
"Extrodinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
vadimcream 2 years ago
Ok I see, not your cup of tea, maybe this is a good start: Don't take yourself so serious..
dreadyloxx 2 years ago
@dreadyloxx
Not my cup of tea? Dreadyloxx, facts are not like music or a pair of jeans, you don't know they are true because you like how they sound or fit with what you'd like to be so, you believe them because you have sound reason to... I don't "take myself seriously at all", as I think my videos clearly demonstrate. The only thing that shouldn't be taken so seriously here are the claims of this video...
vadimcream 2 years ago
apparently, Dean Radin replicated the study...or is that study also not valid, in your opinion?
in5d 2 years ago
Nope, it's not valid as it did not pass the rigor's of the peer review process. On top of that Radin, has been widely regarded as a fraud for years now who attempts to pass off pseudo science for the real thing. At the end of the day what matters is creating circumstances that can be replicated by others in a controlled testing environrment, all attempts to do this by unbiased professionals have failed.
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vadimcream 2 years ago
I'm with dreadyloxx's train of thought. Step outside the box, bro. Some things you can't prove with our traditional senses. Go outside around noon and look at the stars. What's ther matter, you can't see them? Of course, they're there but you can't prove it with your 20/20 vision.
If you blow a dog whistle, a dog will hear it but you won't. Why not? Can you prove the dog has better hearing than you? Can you prove that sound exists just because you can't hear it?
in5d 2 years ago
@in5d
What? Of course we can prove that a dog whistle emits sound. We don't take that claim on faith, there are numerous ways we have to discovered to detect such a thing. Comparing paranormal claims to the existence of the stars is ridiculous when we have thousands upon thousands of ways to verify they are there. We have no such thing with paranormal claims. Why don't I step outside the box? Why don't you believe in fairies? Come on man, step outside the box, already!!!
vadimcream 2 years ago
this is outside the box. if we all came from one, then this is a dream, because in the end, we're all dreaming the same dream. Can I prove it? No, I don't have to.
in5d 2 years ago
@in5d Wow, if only the world worked under the premise that if you verbally detach yourself from the responsibility of proof then you don't have to provide any. You could get away with anything! Unfortunately there is a shared reality, and if you care to make assertions that hold water inside of it you do have to back up your claims...
vadimcream 2 years ago
@vad: then explain creation. You can't and you have no proof to support any statement regarding this, which is EXACTLY my point. Some things, you don't need to have a hypothesis and empirical data to support the evidence.
in5d 2 years ago
@in5d
Wait, so I can't explain the way the universe began therefore you don't have to back up any of your claims? That's ludicrous... There are actually many ways to explain this. Most of the arguments are easily dismissed because they are claims with no evidence whatsoever to back them up. The claims that ARE taken seriously, such as the BB, have lots of science backing them up to warrant them as a valid hypothesis. So yes, you do need evidence to make a worthy claim even about that!
vadimcream 2 years ago
@in5d take that logic back a couple hundred years and you have burning witches and flat planets.
whyyoumadlol 1 year ago
@in5d Nassim Haramein has a pretty technical breakdown of the nature of the universe and it gives a sort of a principal for matter creation, energy, life ect...
rcacad 1 year ago
Do you believe that what is currently immeasurable is nonexistent?
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
No. If something exists there are means (even if we haven't developed them) of detecting it. It's a weak argument though because I could easily say "there is an invisible moose that hovers over all our heads that enables us to breathe, take my word for it, it's just that science hasn't developed a way to prove this." Well, in order to believe that you would need credible evidence, and it would be lacking, and you would therefore be wise in not believing the claim.
vadimcream 2 years ago
It is unwise to discount all information on the basis of lack of credible evidence. It is wise to be open to the POSSIBILITY of all ideas regardless of credible evidence. The evidence of truth is logic, and self discernment. How do you think all credible evidence comes about? First, something is imagined, then they attempt to test and measure the idea. You are missing the first step. My point is, credible evidence is not needed for truthful concepts to be understood.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek - I didn't miss your point I just know that it's a fallacious argument. If credible evidence is not needed then why then don't you believe every single claim that every religion has to offer? Because you don't see any reason to believe them! They offer no evidence!
It IS wise to discount info without evidence, otherwise all one is left with is a claim that has nothing to support itself and every liar in the world could perpetrate hoaxes left and right...
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vadimcream 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Lastly this study IS an attempt to offer detectable evidence of ESP. I have stated why science believes it is logically reasonable to assume it was a hoax and why the data it reported is BS. Now do you see the irony here? If the study was real then you'd say "AHA! Clear scientific evidence on it's behalf!" and when one shows the study to be bogus then all of a sudden scientific evidence isn't needed anymore... How convenient.
vadimcream 2 years ago
I don't believe every claim that religion has to offer because of my current perception. As you gain understanding, discernment of truth becomes easier. I understand what religion is, and the intent of those who organize and promote it. Scientific analysis and proof of existence is limited by advancement in technology. If you only believe things that can be proven, then your perception will be limited.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Look, of course we are limited by that which we can perceive technologically, but again, I am merely shedding light on claims that are being made saying that the evidence IS there, and it simply isn't... There are indeed times to believe things that arent 100% verifiable but even then you would require REASONS to believe. There are no reasons to believe here and if you decide to believe it knowing full well that the study itself was shown to be a fraud then what won't you believe?
vadimcream 2 years ago
I agree with the information expressed in this video because it changes my perception, which changes my thoughts, which changes my actions, which changes my experience, and the experience of others. Through my intent and desire for more joyful experiences, I am drawn to credible sources which I believe contain truth. You will not experience things that you do not believe are possible, but you may experience things that you do believe.
Indigozek 2 years ago
You agree with the information in this video simply because you would like it to be true, the same reason why any religious person believes their baseless unsubstantiated claims. There is another word for it, faith.
And you Will experience things you do not believe. You may not believe gravity will kick in if you jump out a window, but you will fall just the same if you do.
It's good to keep an open mind, but not so much that your brain falls out.
vadimcream 2 years ago
INTENT is the underlying factor of discernment. If a source claims that another source is false, then who is to believe? Only through understanding the intent of the source, will you know what to believe. Do you understand the intent of the people who are sharing this information? They do not intend to be correct, they intend to discover, and help others. Which is also my intent.
Indigozek 2 years ago
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Indigozek 2 years ago
You are really spouting so much mumbo jumbo it's hard to keep track. Intent is NOT the underlying factor, if that was the case then everyone seeking god from every religion would have found him.
If another source claims another is false then intent is meaningless, as people can be wrong without knowing it. People propagate dangerous myths all the time that lead to unhealthy psychology or behavior with the intent to do good.... (cont)
vadimcream 2 years ago
Lastly I really don't understand, if you are the least bit concerned with intent and truth, why you would critisize me for pointing out an aspect of this argument (the point upon which this video centers) which has been shown to be fraudulent? If these things truly matter to you you should thank me for bringing this to light...
vadimcream 2 years ago
You're right, sometimes I get carried away when attempting to explain something. Which part do you believe is untrue?
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Well I hold a great deal of it in question, and the messages the videomaker created painting global warming as a hoax is absolute BS, but the point that I began with is that the work of Dr. Emoto on the effects of prayer and meditation on water have never been replicated by experts in controlled tests. Couple this with the fact that Emoto was offered a million dollars to replicate the results in such an arena and didn't I think more than points to the whole thing being a fraud.
vadimcream 2 years ago
if 6billion people started actually BELIEVING the sky is purple, would it not be? same things works en mass for experiements also. skepticism is a force also...
ChinoRdrgz 2 years ago
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vadimcream 2 years ago
@ChinoRdrgz
I call utter bullshit on your comment. No, the sky would not turn purple if 6 billion people believed it. Millions of people have believed in the second coming of Christ for decades and thats only produced visions of JC in oil slicks and toast.
Are you actually saying that the power of skepticism foiled the experiment? Come on! Not to mention in a DOUBLE BLIND TEST the tester doesnt know whats what, so there is no way to effect the results positively or negatively.
vadimcream 2 years ago
All is vibration, water responds to vibrations. Do you understand?
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vadimcream 2 years ago
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Oh for craps sake. YES, of course I understood that vibrations was the premise upon which the science was SUPPOSED to work, but it DIDN'T. The testing was never duplicated when put to the test, numerous times! This points to it being a most certain fraud. Now do YOU understand???
vadimcream 2 years ago
In this case, test results depend on the person conducting the experiment. There are more factors that may be involved such as intent. The point is that we are beginning to understand how human beings can affect or even communicate with water. If that is possible, it means that we can communicate with nature because everything contains water. Nature has an incredible amount of information, and one plant has direct communication with every other plant on this planet.
Indigozek 2 years ago
In my opinion, such a discovery is too valuable to dismiss so easily as to being a COMPLETE fraud.
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vadimcream 2 years ago
You would very much like this to be true, but cold facts prove otherwise. If it were real Dr.Emoto would offer his results up for peer review (the standard by which the scientific world proclaims work to be valid) but he does not. The man claimed that he performed scientific tests and has not over seen the duplication of the tests and denied offers of 1 million dollars to duplicate said tests... There simply would be NO reason for this if it wasn't fraud.
vadimcream 2 years ago
Too valuable??? How is utter bullshit valuable at all? Do you feel the same way about Bigfoot? The point is that we shouldn't hold on to random claims that do not stand the most basic scrutiny. Why do you believe the claims of one man who did not keep accurate records of his study, got his M.D. from a degree factory in India for about 500$, and hasn't published a single controlled scientific experiment in a credible peer-reviewed journal? All signs point to Bullshit.
vadimcream 2 years ago
I intend to discover, you intend to be correct. There are similarities between this discussion and the studies done in the area of water consciousness. While both are important, a discovery must be made before it can be replicated, proven, and understood.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Well maybe you should "intend to discover" something that's not a fraud, and while you're at it, please dont presume what I "intend" to be, it's arrogant to speak on my behalf.
Now I have offered a near air-tight case as to why one has excellent reasons to assume the entire thing was a hoax and you've provided nothing to counter them. And how is your final point relevant to ANYTHING? I think you're just throwing in science jargon to sound like you comprehend things.
vadimcream 2 years ago
Your words show your intentions. It is a waste of energy to further explain the importance of understanding how we can affect or even communicate with water. I have nothing to lose if I am "wrong", but I have much to gain by pondering possibilities.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Well unlike you, I won't presume your intentions, but you do seem to be far more concerned with keeping that which you'd like to be true alive than with grasping the actual truth.
My only intention is to shed light on the truth of the matter. If you really are open minded and exercise just a small bit of rational thinking, you'll realize there isn't any evidence to believe Emoto's claims, because he refused to provide ANY.
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vadimcream 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Do you have nothing to lose? Personally I feel as though my time and energy is wasted invested on conartists. I think you believe I am coming at this too skeptically but I am only asking for the evidence that Emoto claimed to have been there in the first place. If the experiments were successfully executed at one time, there is no reason they should not be repeatable and why he should not publish his results. Why are those two things not suspicious in your eyes?
vadimcream 2 years ago
I am not sure. Maybe the other people who conducted the "same" experiment did not include EVERY required condition that emoto had. This is my belief, all is vibration, 528hz is the measurement of the vibration of love, humans can produce this vibration, specific frequencies have beneficial influence, water structure is affected by vibration. Therefore, water structure can be changed with human input. "tests" are not needed for logical concepts.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Yes! That would be a credible reason for it not being a success. But in the world of science, legitimate practitioners make their work available so the tests can be repeated. Emoto has refused to do such! He published CLAIMS of his work, but never showed evidence of it AND never submitted his work for peer review. Tests ARE needed for logical concepts, thats what makes them logic. You can not find anything accepted as logic by science which cant be put to a test.
vadimcream 2 years ago
I do not care about the validity of his experiments. The point is that it opens new possibilities. What if water responds to human intent or specific input? What if water can be programmed to be beneficial to human beings? What if humans can influence water, and receive a response? What if water holds information within its structure that we may be able to understand through this type of communication? Surely there is SOMETHING to learn from water. Everything on the planet contains water.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
You don't care about the validity of his experiments??? But his experiments would prove or disprove ALL of the questions you are raising. So the validity of his experiments should be the most essential component of the equation.... NO NEW POSSIBILLITIES ARE OPEN IF THE EXPERIMENTATION IS FRAUDULENT.
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vadimcream 2 years ago
@Indigozek
What you are saying is the same as : "the fact that there is no evidence to the existence of unicorns is unimportant, the point is that unicorns open new possibillities. What if unicorns can heal the sick? What if unicorns can communicate with humans and..???" All of these what ifs are meaningless because we know almost certainly that they don't exist. You are saying that even if you knew the work was a fraud, you'd still believe it. There no logic to your reasoning.
vadimcream 2 years ago
You cannot be 100% certain that unicorns are non-existent, unless one day a unicorn presents itself, and you are unable to see it because of limited beliefs. I don't need outdated scientific "evidence" to validate my beliefs, self discernment is all that is needed. Know this, anything can be faked, including information that disproves valuable concepts. Knowing that, what can prove or disprove anything? Your own intuition and perception, nothing else.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
part 1
"You cannot be 100% certain that unicorns are non-existent, unless one day a unicorn presents itself."
YES! There is an small possibility that ANYTHING is true, so what do we do as logical beings? We look to EVIDENCE to determine what is credible and what isn't.
" I don't need outdated scientific "evidence" to validate my beliefs"... Outdated???? Yes, I don't think anyone should use "outdated" scientific evidence. We agree again!!!
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vadimcream 2 years ago
All of todays science is outdated. Most new valuable concepts that are coming forth cannot be tested with our current technology. Until we both have a similar understanding and perception of existence, this discussion is a waste of energy. Do you fully understand how this reality we are experiencing manifests?
Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
"All of todays science is outdated".
That is the most ignorant thing I've heard in long time.
The equations of pythagoras and the theory of relativity holds up just fine today.
You are arrogant to presume that centuries of accumalated data by some of the greatest minds the world has known is so meaningless....
And by the way, science IS our ONLY way to understand and perceive, and communicate the facts of our existence collectively...
Yeesh. You are floundering here.
vadimcream 2 years ago
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Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
Wow, I could take a great deal of pretty awesome pot shots with the comments you just left but I'll just say this...
If you take a look at my arguments and commit yourself to being intellectually honest about the matter, you will concede that I made a very good case for why Emoto's work can and should be dismissed and why the scientific community regards it as bogus. You're obviously not an imbecile, so I know you can figure it out if you try... p.s. I enjoyed your guitar solo :)
vadimcream 2 years ago
I agree and completely understand what you are saying. While scientific credibility and evidence is important for understanding concepts, I prefer to dream and explore, rather than justify. I have learned some lessons from this discussion so I thank you. I am glad you enjoyed my short song too haha.
Indigozek 2 years ago
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Indigozek 2 years ago
@Indigozek
"self discernment is all that is needed"
What you call "self discernment" I call faith. Faith has led man to believe in everything from ZEUS, to unicorns, to fairies and so on, EVIDENCE + SCIENCE brought us the theory of relativity and the technology that allows you to be reading this comment right now... Intuition is always fallible and since there is such a thing as a SHARED REALITY, we look to the validated information inside that reality to make wise decisions... (cont)
vadimcream 2 years ago
you need to cleanse your colon and then you will understand better what these videos were about.
And by the way..the one who came up with the theory of relativity also believed in God the Creator.
Go and check it for yourself.
You are too arrogant. God will bring you to faith, sooner or later in life.
gigiontube 2 years ago
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vadimcream 2 years ago
@gigontube
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
-Albert Einstein
vadimcream 2 years ago
vadimcream
I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202)
gigiontube 2 years ago
vadimcream
Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p. 214)
gigiontube 2 years ago
Gigi
Einstein's use of the word god was always as a sort of metaphor to describe the mysteries of physics and the natural world, this is known by scientists and historians alike. His only objection to being quoted by atheists is that he disliked their strident approach, not disagreed with their views.
To take the quotes which you used out of context and use them falsely as a record of a supposed belief is to rob them of their nuance and to exploit them into something Einstien never intended.
vadimcream 2 years ago
NIcely put.
zxzrp0 1 year ago
Lastly gigi, I just have to say that you are clearly the arrogant one of the two of us. I never even disputed the existence of god within any of the comments I left and yet you jumped straight into this BS point and incorrectly used an adamant atheist to support your sanctimonious attack against me... The facts do NOT support your claim and FYI, the fact that you started your initial comment with "you need to cleanse your colon" displayed your demented grossness right off the bat.
vadimcream 2 years ago
I did not say that Einstien went to church, or he was Penticostal or anything like that, all I said was he believed in God the Creator. And these videos are about exactly that. You have a history of picking on anyone with your "scientific" mind. Keep it to yourself and let other be. Some of us had enough "evidence", we want to go beyong that...if that is okay with you.
And cleansing your colon is not a demented grossness. You better research the subject before calling me demented.
gigiontube 2 years ago
@gigiontube
He did not believe in a Creator God. He spoke of God as a metaphor for nature, that is NOT a creator god. Furthermore it is clear he had NO BELIEF IN AN AFTERLIFE, so evidently, if he DID even believe in a deistic god, that god did not endow him with a soul. You put the term scientific mind in quotes as if that is a bad thing
vadimcream 2 years ago
@gigiontube
My mind is only scientific compared to yours, and I think it's really sad that you seem to intimate that would even be a bad thing. The truth is you want to hear nothing of true science, because when it is applied to things such as this video you are defending, the empty claims of it are shattered and your faith in it is exposed as blind.
vadimcream 2 years ago
@gigiontube
And lastly, Why on earth are you so obsessed with my butt-hole? The whole reason why I said it was demented had nothing to do with whether or not I believe colonics are healthy (yes they are!).
It had EVERYTHING to do with the fact that it was just a gross and ridiculous way to open your argument to me. You act as if I'm some kind of bully, but you're the one who pre-emptively copped the condescending attitude. Please grow up.
vadimcream 2 years ago
vadimcream
In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)
gigiontube 2 years ago
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You will find this is true if you research properly and furthermore if you scour for more quotes in which Eisntein does discuss this elusive god you will NEVER find a quote that supports a belief in a biblical interpretation of god...
"It was of course a lie about my religous convictions, a lie that is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and have not denied this but have expressed it clearly." - Einstein
vadimcream 2 years ago
@gigontube
"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it."
-Albert Einstein
vadimcream 2 years ago
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@gigiontube
Wow. Ok:
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
-Albert Einstein
vadimcream 2 years ago
No. The negative results had NOTHING to do with intent, nor could it. First of all the testing was DOUBLE BLIND. Second of all they used yogis to participate as the meditators, not random skeptical scientists. And lastly, EVEN IF they (hypothetically) did use someone who did not have what you deem as "proper intent", then they still should have turned into "ugly water" or something of that sort. There was NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER. So your "point" about us "communicating with water" is a fantasy.
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Indigozek 2 years ago
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I disagree with your belief on what defines a credible source.
Indigozek 2 years ago
@ vadi: I would imagine that you have no belief in quantum physics because much of that is theory... am I correct? If not, why?
in5d 2 years ago
@in5d
That has nothing to do with the validity of the experiment. If the tests were valid then there is no reason why the results should not have been the same given they were performed under the same conditions numerous times.
I have read and seen much on QP that attempts to explain paranormal phenomena, the doc "What the Bleep.." comes to mind... The science is always misinterpreted vastly whenever I see these feeble explanations. (cont)
vadimcream 2 years ago
@in5d
And in the case of "What the Bleep" all the reputable scientists interviewed in that film were extremely upset with the result of that film (which according to them) took them completely out of context and presented their ideas in a manner that was bogus...
QT is a fascinating theory, but attempts to explain away the matters at hand simply fail when the science is presented correctly. And like I said, even if that wasn't the case it couldn't possibly explain emoto, which was a fraud.
vadimcream 2 years ago
The study the "Dr" is discussing was never replicated in any controlled testing circumstances and is widely thought to be a hoax.
vadimcream 2 years ago
please elaborate
in5d 2 years ago