Your measurements are so cool! How did you figure out the distances are constant to every foot!? And does this apply to anything from a QH/TB hoof all the way to a draft? And a pony too?
@mselveehead It's kind of a combination between what Gene Ovinick does on a video on youtube called mapping the hoof and the methods of a farrier from Austrailia by the name of David Famillo (google him and watch his videos on it), who invented a meauring device called the Hoofline Rule. I just simplified it all, and got rid of the whole 1/3 -2/3 balance thing in barefoot trimming to half and half plus adding the hoofwall.
@thehappyhoof Cool! Ok so what I've gotten from this and from today's videos is, you can use the exact measurements of 1 1/4" from hairline to base of heel, and 1" from apex of frog to centre of foot on a regular sized horse. But on ANY horse is it this: base of foot is at the bottom of the periople flaps, so measure there to the end of the bars to find the center, then measure that distance again to the correct end of the sole?
I just noticed yesterday that where I took my horse's bars way down a few days ago, they were sticking out - so I took them down again yesterday. We'll see what's changed today when I go out, but wow, I would not have known that would be an issue with him. Glad these videos are here!
Yey! Great informative vid ,inspite of the wobbles ! My horse's bars were growing up as fast as I could take them down.That went on for weeks.He is finally showing some concavity now although he still has quarter walls that lean in a bit from coronary band to the ground on the outsides ,on his fronts.Do overlaid ,impacted ,bars exaserbate contracted frogs too?Thanks so much for your uploads!
@chelackie Yes I beieve they do, because if the frog is contracted and narrow, it's because the heels are contracted and narrow. So if the bar is overlaid, or jammed up or just overgrown and thick et. It also keeps the heels from expanding back out, and when you can get the heels to start expanding, by getting rid of bar, horse will then walk on heels, widening the contracted heels and then the frog. and you won't have a bunch of thick bar in there holding it like a vice together.
Most likely from my experince in having ripples, which they call growth lines, has been due to either not maintianing the main load of the hoofwall from off the ground, by not renewing the trim enough. Wild horses keep their fingernails short and beveled. As soon as the walls grow out enough to start bearing weight, the hoof will try and compensate and create a fatigue bulge to try and keep the inside laminae from being torn apart all the way.
So ripples in the hoof wall mean there is to much pressure on it? My mare has always had this and I don't know what I am doing wrong? maybe is should take some pics and post them...
@MissKeyKatcher You see my horse there, I never let her walls get any longer than what you see there before I just touch them up. It becomes as easy as cleaning the foot. Therefore she doen'st get growth lines which are really signs of strucural overloading and fatigue. But she's had growth lines plenty of times. But they said it was due to a change of diet, which she never had. None of my horses have them when I keep them up and trimmed.
@thehappyhoof okay. I generally rasp my horse's hooves down once a week, just a little maintanence, or sometimes I will the hooves let go 2 weeks. I have been doing her hooves myself a little over 7months now and I must say it is definitely a learning process. It was a lot of work at first but it seems to be going a lot faster now. Mustang Roll I don't think I take off as much as a pencil's thickness, maybe half that.
@MissKeyKatcher You have to take off at least that much and that's conservitive, or you won't get the desired results you'll just be working against yourself. the trim is bases on taking the main leverage of the walls from bearing to much of the weight. If you are not beveling enought they are still being loaded with too much weight and therefore getting the lines you see.
Your measurements are so cool! How did you figure out the distances are constant to every foot!? And does this apply to anything from a QH/TB hoof all the way to a draft? And a pony too?
mselveehead 3 months ago
@mselveehead It's kind of a combination between what Gene Ovinick does on a video on youtube called mapping the hoof and the methods of a farrier from Austrailia by the name of David Famillo (google him and watch his videos on it), who invented a meauring device called the Hoofline Rule. I just simplified it all, and got rid of the whole 1/3 -2/3 balance thing in barefoot trimming to half and half plus adding the hoofwall.
thehappyhoof 3 months ago
@thehappyhoof Cool! Ok so what I've gotten from this and from today's videos is, you can use the exact measurements of 1 1/4" from hairline to base of heel, and 1" from apex of frog to centre of foot on a regular sized horse. But on ANY horse is it this: base of foot is at the bottom of the periople flaps, so measure there to the end of the bars to find the center, then measure that distance again to the correct end of the sole?
mselveehead 3 months ago
I just noticed yesterday that where I took my horse's bars way down a few days ago, they were sticking out - so I took them down again yesterday. We'll see what's changed today when I go out, but wow, I would not have known that would be an issue with him. Glad these videos are here!
minervasp73 4 months ago
Yey! Great informative vid ,inspite of the wobbles ! My horse's bars were growing up as fast as I could take them down.That went on for weeks.He is finally showing some concavity now although he still has quarter walls that lean in a bit from coronary band to the ground on the outsides ,on his fronts.Do overlaid ,impacted ,bars exaserbate contracted frogs too?Thanks so much for your uploads!
chelackie 4 months ago
@chelackie Yes I beieve they do, because if the frog is contracted and narrow, it's because the heels are contracted and narrow. So if the bar is overlaid, or jammed up or just overgrown and thick et. It also keeps the heels from expanding back out, and when you can get the heels to start expanding, by getting rid of bar, horse will then walk on heels, widening the contracted heels and then the frog. and you won't have a bunch of thick bar in there holding it like a vice together.
thehappyhoof 4 months ago
Most likely from my experince in having ripples, which they call growth lines, has been due to either not maintianing the main load of the hoofwall from off the ground, by not renewing the trim enough. Wild horses keep their fingernails short and beveled. As soon as the walls grow out enough to start bearing weight, the hoof will try and compensate and create a fatigue bulge to try and keep the inside laminae from being torn apart all the way.
thehappyhoof 4 months ago
So ripples in the hoof wall mean there is to much pressure on it? My mare has always had this and I don't know what I am doing wrong? maybe is should take some pics and post them...
MissKeyKatcher 4 months ago
@MissKeyKatcher You see my horse there, I never let her walls get any longer than what you see there before I just touch them up. It becomes as easy as cleaning the foot. Therefore she doen'st get growth lines which are really signs of strucural overloading and fatigue. But she's had growth lines plenty of times. But they said it was due to a change of diet, which she never had. None of my horses have them when I keep them up and trimmed.
thehappyhoof 4 months ago
@thehappyhoof okay. I generally rasp my horse's hooves down once a week, just a little maintanence, or sometimes I will the hooves let go 2 weeks. I have been doing her hooves myself a little over 7months now and I must say it is definitely a learning process. It was a lot of work at first but it seems to be going a lot faster now. Mustang Roll I don't think I take off as much as a pencil's thickness, maybe half that.
MissKeyKatcher 4 months ago
@MissKeyKatcher You have to take off at least that much and that's conservitive, or you won't get the desired results you'll just be working against yourself. the trim is bases on taking the main leverage of the walls from bearing to much of the weight. If you are not beveling enought they are still being loaded with too much weight and therefore getting the lines you see.
thehappyhoof 4 months ago
exellent video, thanks
hackneysaregreat 4 months ago