or to save a lot of time take a .22 gage wire and jumper the trace. strip off abt 1/4" of insulation then "tin" the wire then snip it shorter so not to short with another contact, then just soder that wire from one side of the broken trace ie a restor leg or an IC or cap (where the broken trace meets the componet) then do the same on the other side.
Nice vid, I was doing some mods to a guitar effects pedal and I broke the trace around the hole where a capacitor lead goes, can this fix that? If not, does anybody have any experience or tips on doing that?
You might try soldering a bit hotter, so your solder flows more nicely on the pads. Also try to avoid 90 degree bends on PCB traces as much as possible. They bring nothing but HF noise and easily damaged traces.
@dudomaniac I personnaly like to use a low wattage, but a pretty hot iron. It will allow the solder to flow better and needs less time to heat up components. Plus, it won't damage components as a colder iron would do, since the heat has less time to propagate through the component leads.
awesome man thanks i'm going to buy one of those. I'm swapping different color LEDs in my stock radio (from green to amber) and I just messed up one of the traces now I can fix this!
pen looks pretty sketchy- you could make a small pool of the material and then apply it with a very fine point paint brush- assuming the material does not destroy the bristles of the brus- would guess you could apply much more accurately this way. Thanks for the vid.
@javapda hey also what is something i can use to remove the green cover on the PCB, so its easier to do work with it? someone told me to scratch it off with xacto knife but i dont want to mess up the traces and that seems a little bit too extreme.
You said you wouldn't want to rely on it. Me neither. You could have done a better job soldering a copper wire into the circuit for that distance. Well, that's what I would have done any way. The pen looked far too cumbersome.
I've never used conductive paint. Are you able to solder to it when it's completely dry?
I saw a novel use for conductive paint- cant remember where. Students had painted it discretely into a mural. Various electronic modules could (not fixed) be added to the painted tracks, containing LEDs, motors etc, used to animate the piece. The conductive paint tracks were a part of the design, and used deliver power throughout the mural. Sounds a bit lame, but I thought it was quite an original idea.
@888chilly Usually when asked to "cut" a trace they are intending you to break the path of the trace. In other words, introducing an open circuit. To do this you could use a find tipped instrument and simply scrape a section of the trace. Once the trace is "cut" no current would be be allowed to pass through that part of the circuit.
Most trace pens are horrid unless you pay out the ass for nano silver, Your better off getting a pad replace kit the has multiple trace size cuts there basicly copper decals. As for the board the reason's for that trace being bad is one poor soldering technique and lack of fluxing. Your allso not solder masking your board's, And the board it self appears to be overetched and done with the laughable inkjet printer method opposed to photoetching.
I blew out a some of the PCB on my new circuit board... :( by overloading a fan jumper with to much power, would i be able to use this method to connect the now severed wires?
I bought one from tanners here in DFW, but it must have been old, I tapped, shook, and squeezed the living crap out of it and only got a microscopic amout of "ink". Nott worth the 20 bucks for me, It was easier just to jump the gap with a very thin wire. nice to see that some of them work I might tttry again somettime.
Agreed. This method seems more appropriate for minor repairs, or for repairs that need to get done right away, when you do not necessarily have the equipment needed.
Awesome! I did a hard mod (cutting a trace) on the circuit board on my psp battery to do custom firmware. I tried a bunch of other things to repair it but it didnt last long. Soldering can't be done because it's too small. Im ordering this pen for $25 from a catalogue and hopefully it will help.
Very nice video. I have been into electronics as a job and hobby but I fit my genders stereotype by ignoring directions haha. I have to fix a trace on an xbox mother board and I'm gonna try this out. Thank you!!
Not the ideal solution, especially when you have tracks very close to each other.
cumesoftware 2 months ago
@cumesoftware you are correct.
javapda 2 months ago
or to save a lot of time take a .22 gage wire and jumper the trace. strip off abt 1/4" of insulation then "tin" the wire then snip it shorter so not to short with another contact, then just soder that wire from one side of the broken trace ie a restor leg or an IC or cap (where the broken trace meets the componet) then do the same on the other side.
ChrisBit692002 3 months ago
Know where I could order one of these pens online? My keyboard had beer spilled on it on my birthday and they've since discontinued the model I have
JessikaTasha 5 months ago
The one from JessikaTasha is from me, accidentally left my girlfriend signed in, if someone replies, do so to this account please.
acid4444 5 months ago
@JessikaTasha mcmelectronics dotcom
javapda 5 months ago
@javapda - Thanks a lot
acid4444 5 months ago
You could put electro isolation tape around the spot you are trying to restore so only the target area would be contaminated with the conductor.
Im braking my head with a graffic card pcb, its so tiny im gona die xd
TheBrnabrna 1 year ago
use tape to mask off the area around the trace. Two pieces of tape close to each other will make the thin straight line you're after
ackpacket 1 year ago
i use the pen all times it works fine for me, just one tiny tip. it's good idea to bake it or hot air it so it lasts longer.
reply4reply 1 year ago
It would be a good idea to clean the area from flux residues with isopropyl alcohol before applying the silver based compound.
FearTriX 1 year ago 4
@FearTriX Excellent comment! Thanks.
javapda 1 year ago
I use solder to repair a trace. easy fix
PhuckHue2 1 year ago
Nice vid, I was doing some mods to a guitar effects pedal and I broke the trace around the hole where a capacitor lead goes, can this fix that? If not, does anybody have any experience or tips on doing that?
GuitarGuy0008 1 year ago
@GuitarGuy0008 Yes
javapda 1 year ago
@javapda thanks I'll have to pick one up
GuitarGuy0008 1 year ago
I would prefer making a new PCB. Those traces seem to be to thin.
cumesoftware 1 year ago
You might try soldering a bit hotter, so your solder flows more nicely on the pads. Also try to avoid 90 degree bends on PCB traces as much as possible. They bring nothing but HF noise and easily damaged traces.
dudomaniac 1 year ago
@dudomaniac Thanks for the great tip! Especially about the HF noise
javapda 1 year ago
@dudomaniac I personnaly like to use a low wattage, but a pretty hot iron. It will allow the solder to flow better and needs less time to heat up components. Plus, it won't damage components as a colder iron would do, since the heat has less time to propagate through the component leads.
cumesoftware 1 year ago
awesome man thanks i'm going to buy one of those. I'm swapping different color LEDs in my stock radio (from green to amber) and I just messed up one of the traces now I can fix this!
djturbojp7 1 year ago
@djturbojp7 Glad to hear this
javapda 1 year ago
pen looks pretty sketchy- you could make a small pool of the material and then apply it with a very fine point paint brush- assuming the material does not destroy the bristles of the brus- would guess you could apply much more accurately this way. Thanks for the vid.
omaudio 1 year ago
would conductive glue be better for repairing traces?
nyy622 1 year ago
@nyy622 I could be, but I have not tried it myself. If you try, I would love to know how it went.
javapda 1 year ago
@javapda hey also what is something i can use to remove the green cover on the PCB, so its easier to do work with it? someone told me to scratch it off with xacto knife but i dont want to mess up the traces and that seems a little bit too extreme.
nyy622 1 year ago
it's a really bad made board.
djtonyxxx5 1 year ago
@djtonyxxx5 :-)
javapda 1 year ago
@javapda i'll post to you one smd adaptor i've made with traditional tecnique. i think you can't do a thing like that.
djtonyxxx5 1 year ago
@djtonyxxx5 Thank you very much.
javapda 1 year ago
You said you wouldn't want to rely on it. Me neither. You could have done a better job soldering a copper wire into the circuit for that distance. Well, that's what I would have done any way. The pen looked far too cumbersome.
fronkenpoop 1 year ago
@fronkenpoop :-) Good point.
javapda 1 year ago
I've never used conductive paint. Are you able to solder to it when it's completely dry?
I saw a novel use for conductive paint- cant remember where. Students had painted it discretely into a mural. Various electronic modules could (not fixed) be added to the painted tracks, containing LEDs, motors etc, used to animate the piece. The conductive paint tracks were a part of the design, and used deliver power throughout the mural. Sounds a bit lame, but I thought it was quite an original idea.
fronkenpoop 1 year ago
Great question. I have not tried it myself (soldering to dried conductive)
That sounds pretty original! If you find a link for it I'd love to see it. Thanks.
javapda 1 year ago
Another good point. Copper can do a good job at jumpering a break in a trace.
javapda 1 year ago
Thanks Java, been looking everywhere for a video like this!!
RetroGamerVX 1 year ago
@RetroGamerVX Glad you enjoyed it.
javapda 1 year ago
how do you cut a trace on a pcb
i am working on a project which asks to cut 2 and i dont know how
888chilly 2 years ago
@888chilly Usually when asked to "cut" a trace they are intending you to break the path of the trace. In other words, introducing an open circuit. To do this you could use a find tipped instrument and simply scrape a section of the trace. Once the trace is "cut" no current would be be allowed to pass through that part of the circuit.
Does that make sense?
javapda 2 years ago
360 dvd drive?
DeathstrokeV 2 years ago
its for a overclocking kit for my ds
888chilly 2 years ago
@888chilly I did not know you could do that
RetroGamerVX 1 year ago
Most trace pens are horrid unless you pay out the ass for nano silver, Your better off getting a pad replace kit the has multiple trace size cuts there basicly copper decals. As for the board the reason's for that trace being bad is one poor soldering technique and lack of fluxing. Your allso not solder masking your board's, And the board it self appears to be overetched and done with the laughable inkjet printer method opposed to photoetching.
Lokivoid 2 years ago
Poor soldering all around, he's a butcher!!
butchtropic 2 years ago
your hands look scary dude
PhatQ45TT1 2 years ago
This type of PCB is crap becoz the trace can be easily removed..
pkpk614350 2 years ago
could i use arctic`silver 5 thermal paste instead of conductive pen?
butball2006 2 years ago
Not sure. I have not tried it myself. If you do use it I would like to hear how it works for you.
Thanks.
javapda 2 years ago
I blew out a some of the PCB on my new circuit board... :( by overloading a fan jumper with to much power, would i be able to use this method to connect the now severed wires?
I also heard you can use a graphite pencil
daymare10110 2 years ago
Where can that pen be purchased I need to fix my tv but can seem to find anything that works
ladiipeace 2 years ago
do you know how to fix if the copper or the silver thingy came off from the board?
baiba1988 2 years ago
By copper (or silver thingy) do you mean the trace on the board?
If so, then this method should work for you. It still may be a more permanent solution to solder a jumper wire across the gap.
Best wishes.
javapda 2 years ago
THanks
baiba1988 2 years ago
I know this is way off the topic of circuitry but that bumper music hilariously AWESOME.
punkorganist 2 years ago
:-) Glad you liked it.
javapda 2 years ago
great idea ! but what about the sensual musical ? :))
dumbogdan 2 years ago
yes, I guess it is kind of an interesting musical selection :-)
javapda 2 years ago
i think its could be better to cover the board with 2 parallel tapes outlining just the damaged circuit line ...then applying the pen ..
then removing the tapes ..
leaves a clean straight line .
charmingbanana 2 years ago 5
What a great idea! Thank you.
javapda 2 years ago
that is s very good idea. this should not only make it easier but keep you from overlapping with another trace.
koz1204 2 years ago
I bought one from tanners here in DFW, but it must have been old, I tapped, shook, and squeezed the living crap out of it and only got a microscopic amout of "ink". Nott worth the 20 bucks for me, It was easier just to jump the gap with a very thin wire. nice to see that some of them work I might tttry again somettime.
dunesandworm 3 years ago
Agreed. This method seems more appropriate for minor repairs, or for repairs that need to get done right away, when you do not necessarily have the equipment needed.
Thanks for watching.
javapda 3 years ago
Awesome! I did a hard mod (cutting a trace) on the circuit board on my psp battery to do custom firmware. I tried a bunch of other things to repair it but it didnt last long. Soldering can't be done because it's too small. Im ordering this pen for $25 from a catalogue and hopefully it will help.
AnthraxBomb13 3 years ago
Great to hear that!
javapda 3 years ago
Lol I know that mod. Pencil sometimes works...
SHOOTINhomer 3 years ago
Very nice video. I have been into electronics as a job and hobby but I fit my genders stereotype by ignoring directions haha. I have to fix a trace on an xbox mother board and I'm gonna try this out. Thank you!!
FFTG 3 years ago
Excellent! I hope it comes out well.
javapda 3 years ago
Well I was never able to find the pen anywhere... Shucks, so I just got a replacement board. No biggie...
FFTG 3 years ago
how much costs this conductive pen? that's amazing
Robertosten 3 years ago
helped me fix my tv remote, thanks!!!
Banzai2001 3 years ago
Glad to hear it!
javapda 3 years ago