you read the book, the words of another and call it truth, never to speaking for ones self because you have no idea of what its to know ones self come to terms with fear. fear of difference fear of lost and death. stop crucifying the messengers and crucify your ego take the road less traveled take the road or enlightenment the multiverse speaks not in the name of christians or muslims or any other as but as one we are all one the things you judge people for are just a reflection of false self
you read the book, the words of another and call it truth, never to speaking for ones self because you have no idea of what its to know ones self come to terms with the fact that you are just as important as any messenger that you contain the compasity to love unconditionally with all the light of the infinite i love every one of you believe that!
@opivysoldier "Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life" There is none other then God Himself, for the Lord is one. We do not have any power unless it comes from him, it is a lie to think otherwise
Its wrong to assume that there will be a pre-trib rapture because God wouldn't put his church through the tribulation, but I haven't look at scripture enough to know if I believe in pre trib or mid trib. I think that the Holy Spirit will remain on earth and hold back the anti christ and will also dwell in those believers that become Christians after the rapture. Guess I'll have to read 1 Thess again since I didn't catch anything about that the first time around. Anyway, thanks for the insight.
Um God wouldn't put his Church through the Tribulation? Ever hear of the Isrealites? Or the early Christians? Or anyone else persecuted for Christ sake? Terrible things happened to those people but what do they have in common? Christ Loving Protection, WE as a body of Believers may go through the Tribulations to build Faith but be under the protection of God. However I don't take a stance on any of the ends Tribulations haven't studied to indepth to make a decision.
Also to add to Post Tribulation, There may very possibly be a great falling away by people that have the preTribulation point of view since they didn't prepare to go through the entire Tribulation. Good Old saying Better safe then sorry. I would rather be ready to Go through the Tribulation then to have a false hope of pretribulation. but again I don't have a strong opinion on this.
Wow I am dumb lol I agree with you Insomniasmoon its late so my eyes thought you agreed with pretribulation. well I suppose you now have my case on this now lol
London: Found you the answer! The Holy Spirit is holding the Anti Christ back. The Holy Spirit will stay on earth in order to seal the believers during the tribulation. Don't know when or if the Holy Spirit leaves at all, since there is still a possibility for those who don't get the Mark of the Beast after the rapture to recieve salvation. Also, there will be Jewish witnesses going around and I believe that in the past, the Holy Spirit helped the apostles etc to spread the gospel.
Its great to be able to see her, but if you guys want to listen to the rest of the message, you can buy/download it from the IHop website for 2.99. I just did a few days ago and really enjoy it! Makes me want to cry when she speaks. Lol.
London-From my understanding, I believe that the Holy Spirit is holding back the Anti Christ in the verse in Thess that you brought up. The church will stand up and call him out and then that rapture will happen and the Holy Spirit will go with the Saints to heaven. Make sure you check out the overview on the book of Revelation from the Onething08 conference on the ihop website. -Heather
The Holy Spirit will never leave the earth. "Though I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there". The pre-trib rapture doctrine that says the church is taken (thus the HS), is a NEW false doctrine, historically. 1 Thess shows we will see the Anti-christ. When no rapture happens, many many souls will be tormented thinking they are forsaken of God, unsaved. It will nearly destroy them, this horrible lie. If only people would not CLING to it, they would be okay.
she mentions the great falling away or apostasy.. paul said in thessalonians that Jesus will not return until there be 1. the falling away an 2. the [antichrist] is revealed, but that there is one who is preventing him from being revealed and until he is taken out of the way he will not surface, so Jesus won't come till after that. anyone have any ideas as to who it is who is holding him back?
when was this conference at?
JesusGodHolySpirit3 1 year ago
you read the book, the words of another and call it truth, never to speaking for ones self because you have no idea of what its to know ones self come to terms with fear. fear of difference fear of lost and death. stop crucifying the messengers and crucify your ego take the road less traveled take the road or enlightenment the multiverse speaks not in the name of christians or muslims or any other as but as one we are all one the things you judge people for are just a reflection of false self
opivysoldier 1 year ago
you read the book, the words of another and call it truth, never to speaking for ones self because you have no idea of what its to know ones self come to terms with the fact that you are just as important as any messenger that you contain the compasity to love unconditionally with all the light of the infinite i love every one of you believe that!
opivysoldier 1 year ago
@opivysoldier what is she saying you need to know where you stand?
JesusGodHolySpirit3 1 year ago
@opivysoldier "Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life" There is none other then God Himself, for the Lord is one. We do not have any power unless it comes from him, it is a lie to think otherwise
trueg115 9 months ago
Its wrong to assume that there will be a pre-trib rapture because God wouldn't put his church through the tribulation, but I haven't look at scripture enough to know if I believe in pre trib or mid trib. I think that the Holy Spirit will remain on earth and hold back the anti christ and will also dwell in those believers that become Christians after the rapture. Guess I'll have to read 1 Thess again since I didn't catch anything about that the first time around. Anyway, thanks for the insight.
insomniasmoon 2 years ago
Um God wouldn't put his Church through the Tribulation? Ever hear of the Isrealites? Or the early Christians? Or anyone else persecuted for Christ sake? Terrible things happened to those people but what do they have in common? Christ Loving Protection, WE as a body of Believers may go through the Tribulations to build Faith but be under the protection of God. However I don't take a stance on any of the ends Tribulations haven't studied to indepth to make a decision.
agentwd40170 2 years ago
Also to add to Post Tribulation, There may very possibly be a great falling away by people that have the preTribulation point of view since they didn't prepare to go through the entire Tribulation. Good Old saying Better safe then sorry. I would rather be ready to Go through the Tribulation then to have a false hope of pretribulation. but again I don't have a strong opinion on this.
agentwd40170 2 years ago
Wow I am dumb lol I agree with you Insomniasmoon its late so my eyes thought you agreed with pretribulation. well I suppose you now have my case on this now lol
agentwd40170 2 years ago
Uf, this is call!!!
ivanashimich 2 years ago
London: Found you the answer! The Holy Spirit is holding the Anti Christ back. The Holy Spirit will stay on earth in order to seal the believers during the tribulation. Don't know when or if the Holy Spirit leaves at all, since there is still a possibility for those who don't get the Mark of the Beast after the rapture to recieve salvation. Also, there will be Jewish witnesses going around and I believe that in the past, the Holy Spirit helped the apostles etc to spread the gospel.
insomniasmoon 2 years ago
Its great to be able to see her, but if you guys want to listen to the rest of the message, you can buy/download it from the IHop website for 2.99. I just did a few days ago and really enjoy it! Makes me want to cry when she speaks. Lol.
insomniasmoon 2 years ago
London-From my understanding, I believe that the Holy Spirit is holding back the Anti Christ in the verse in Thess that you brought up. The church will stand up and call him out and then that rapture will happen and the Holy Spirit will go with the Saints to heaven. Make sure you check out the overview on the book of Revelation from the Onething08 conference on the ihop website. -Heather
insomniasmoon 2 years ago
The Holy Spirit will never leave the earth. "Though I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there". The pre-trib rapture doctrine that says the church is taken (thus the HS), is a NEW false doctrine, historically. 1 Thess shows we will see the Anti-christ. When no rapture happens, many many souls will be tormented thinking they are forsaken of God, unsaved. It will nearly destroy them, this horrible lie. If only people would not CLING to it, they would be okay.
Davidshep315 2 years ago
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insomniasmoon 2 years ago
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insomniasmoon 2 years ago
She is a strong post trib believer. Let the warning go forth Misty.
discipleinlight 2 years ago
put in the rest of it!!! i want to hear it all ... ]=
dianamn 3 years ago
she mentions the great falling away or apostasy.. paul said in thessalonians that Jesus will not return until there be 1. the falling away an 2. the [antichrist] is revealed, but that there is one who is preventing him from being revealed and until he is taken out of the way he will not surface, so Jesus won't come till after that. anyone have any ideas as to who it is who is holding him back?
HoudiniLondon 3 years ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! what an amazing time to be alive. Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus!!!
therealmarliah 3 years ago
WHOA!
i was there in the back corner writing notes. i'm so glad that at least part of it is up. Thank you!
-ANDREW KIM!
iam4ndr3w 4 years ago
=D im so glad they posted this. I didnt go to her breakout session cause it was so crowded, and everybody was telling me how awesome it was.
LostInMyWinterHell12 4 years ago