Woody Guthrie Ludlow Massacre

[draoi99]

Some rich folks are prepared to kill you because they STILL don't have enough money. They are still with us today, never forget that.

[lakecabs]

Libertarians have nothing against unions.

[draoi99]

@lakecabs Wealthy extreme right wingers like to exploit Libertarianism because it suits their agenda - weakening labour laws, driving down wages, bringing back child labour, ending safety regulations, all that good stuff we miss from the 19th century.

[etiennekremer1]

Bijna 100 jaar geleden Wordt wakker . wake up

[deeppurple28]

The wonderful utopia that Libertarians dream of!

[geosotir3ay]

ohio

[Catlovertea4]

"The Ludlow Tent Colony Site was designated a National Historic Landmark on January 16, 2009, and dedicated on June 28, 2009. Modern archaeological investigation largely supports the strikers' reports of the event."

wikipedia, Ludlow Massacre

[lucripet]

Reading the comments here make me wonder why you do. Read Zinn and Chomsky. You all need to educate yourselves in what we had to contend with back then.

[DylanFan247]

pataters.....



[MAINEPREPPER]

I wonder how many of the anti-union folks know the first thing about the history of labor in this country. Specifically, they seem to think that the robber baron greed mentality that paid workers less than enough to eat while the barons lived in opulent splendor somehow just went away and won't come back in this incessant and psychotic desire to de-regulate corporations while destroying labor unions.

[Catlovertea4]

@MAINEPREPPER Keep talking. No one will find any of this in the school's history books.

[MAINEPREPPER]

@Catlovertea4 Sadly true

[Catlovertea4]

@MAINEPREPPER Yes. And yet, new labor laws went into effect primarily as a result of this tragedy. What's sad is that we aren't preventative enough. We have to have a tragedy before making necessary changes - even then, legislators may drag their feet. It's up to us to voice what we need.

[YaoiHuntressEarth]

@MAINEPREPPER Some of them either don't care (thinking it will never happen to it) or downplay it to support their denial.

[deeppurple28]

The Government is NOT your Friend!

[marthaheaven1]

same as it ever was ..........fucked@@@

[slantyrock]

Retaliation.

[TedEdFred21]

didn't the battle last about a week and over 80 miners die before the president finally called it off?

[steamjerry]

vote these assholes out

[steamjerry]

THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE REPULIPIGS WANT IT BACK

[MrsLHollowell]

@steamjerry If you think Republicans or anyone else wants this back you are out of your mind. It's the Liberals that keep trying to restrict the 2nd Amendment that let those miners fight back and expand Government.

[manolisret]

I am proud to be an anarchist that believes in class war, living in the same area Louis Tikas was born in and lived, until he went of to America to become the class war hero we all know.

Regards from Crete-Greece.

[TheSlabb1001]

Thats fucked up man how can you kill children...

[jay94271]

theyve done this kind of thing for centuries and they're still doing it. god help us

[dananonymous1]

I've just finished reading Howard Zinn's "A PEOPLE'S HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES", a truly fascinating read which chronicles the struggle between wealth and worker in the US from Columbus to the year 2000. A brilliant book that every American who wants to know who they are should read!!!

[LittleRae]

This is a good videography. Where did you find these pictures if you don't mind me asking.

[germinal1988]

Misters, god save the anarchy and god save the unions of workers

[303Moms]

My Grandpa was a miner in Southern Colorado, our Family had to pay to get his name on the Memorial and thankfully it is there. I foresaw the struggles going on against the Union when I moved to Lafayette Colo., I was shocked to find out all the grocers in Boulder county are Non-Union. What brought this information out was being humiliated for being poor, treated as though I had no right to even exist. Once I started speaking out, the war on me was cast so I am watching what happens in Wisconsin

[bmyrab]

@303Moms It's war on working people. Always has been. Hey, I'm in Lafayette too. Coal Creek doncha know.

[dananonymous1]

Why aren't you taught this in your schools? The history we are given is the history of war but people aren't war like, at a basic level all people need companionship and meaningful relationships. In order to get people to go to war you need to lie to them. Lie and lie again, governments urged by private power interests use governments to convince people to go to war because private power makes more profit in wartime than in peacetime. Check it out for yourselves! Google "The Creel Commission"!!!

[SarahWilson01]

@dananonymous1 I did as you said. It's a hard call. On the one hand, Creel's emphasis on promoting 'good' news rather than demonising 'the hun' is at least more humane than more recent demonising of "islamic/militant/terrorist" people (otherwise known as "humans like us"). On the other, it's lying, plain and simple, in support of war. According to Wikipedia, "Walter Lippmann ... was a sharp critic of Creel ... when he was Police Commissioner of Denver." Thank you for telling us about this.

[Hister333]

The rich are trying the same crap they tried 100 years ago.  We DO NOT let it happen again.

[grindy45]

Just noticed that the "Ratings" for this were: 127 Liked, 1 Didn't Like. I'm guessin that 1 has the brain of a rock....

[Hister333]

@grindy45 I dunno. Maybe the 1 was Bill O'Reilly.

[jay94271]

its shameful our kids arent taught about this kind of thing in the schools its almost as if they want history to repeat itself.

[gdsgsdgs1]

there a man from my island....named ilias spantidakis or louis tikas from Crete was killed from the national guard....

[DIMOJABE]

Capitalism = Moneyism. Capitalists = Moneyists. USA Definition of Democracy = Corporatocracy. I am 51 and was raised in Baltimore. I was never educated about labor rights and the fight to get them. This past week on NPR, Debbie Elliott invited a pension benefits expert (Wharton School of Bus), to speak about the lack of historical precedent for retirement. There was no opposing viewl. NPR is a propaganda machine. Do not support "Public" media - radio or PBT.

[DIMOJABE]

Capitalism = Moneyism. Capitalists = Moneyists. I am 51 and was raised in Baltimore. I was never educated about incidents like this one - or anything at all about labor rights and the fight to get them. This past week on NPR, Debbie Elliott invited a pension benefits expert from the Wharton School of Business, to speak about the lack of historical precedent for retirement. There was no opposing view at all. NPR is a propaganda machine. Do not support "Public" media - radio or PBT.

[marinahall1]

In solidarity brothers and sisters RIP. We need the unions more today than ever. THe gap between the rich and hte poor is worse than ever in America.

[ambdukias66]

@marinahall1 yup, last time the gap was this big was right before the great depression. it's sad how humanity forgets the lessons of the past.

on wisconsin!

[maneaterbug1993]

One of the times capitalism shows its real cruel face... Glory to the heroes of working class !

[hlx55555]

Upton Sinclair, king coal

[8KingIronfish8]

Ayn Rand was right, the government IS always with the workers.

(Sarcasm in case ye didn't catch it)

[steamjerry]

frackin I was a coal miner as iwant to be still

[jacksonrichardson]

the last capitalist we'll hang, will be the one who sold us the rope!

the banker is a guy who will lend you an umbrella while it's sunny,and ask you to give it back when it starts raining. hasta la victoria siempre!

[bradjbourgeois73]

@nudaydawning That Howard Zinn book is how I heard of this, none of my history teachers ever mentioned a word about it!

[MiceElf2]

Maybe, just, perhaps - only suggesting... aspects might trigger. 

[tomitstube]

amazing. unions made great progress in the early 1900's. albeit bloody, the robber barons could buy the courts, police, and politicians. shortly after this massacre of laborers, came wwi... and while the war was going on the feds (corporate militias and politicians) cracked down even harder on american socialists and communists, and labor unions. the beck's and the limbaugh's are so ignorant of this countries history, and the long hard struggle it's been to get a decent wage and work day.

[bapyou]

@tomitstube "the beck's & the limbaugh's are so ignorant of this countries history, and the long hard struggle it's been to get a decent wage and work day."

Since Ronald Reagan they've been trying to take back every little measure workers have won over the decades. The real anti-union thrust began with breaking the Arizona copper miners union at Phelps-Dodge in 1983. Read 'Copper Crucible' by J. Rosenblum. John Coulter (Ann's father) was one of the PD lawyers who decertified the union.

[tomitstube]

@bapyou ~ good call, that would be something right up my alley, i'll check it out when i can. i've always wondered if ann coulter is related to e. merton coulter. of course, the busting of the arizona copper unions was a result of the 1981 air traffic controller strike, when ronnie boy used his presidency to fire all the strikers, and thus signal to all corporate bosses that it was open season on unions, they had the federal gov't covering their backs.

[bapyou]

@tomitstube The ATC strike breaking was important, but, since ATCs are considered necessary for public safety, the strike was technically illegal. (It was in their contract that they could not strike in the 'normal sense.')

The 1983 Phelps-Dodge copper miners strike was something new altogether. It was the first time a major employer used the newly-passed Belknap v. Hale Supreme Court decision which allowed employers to permanently hire replacement workers, effecting union decertification.

[tomitstube]

@bapyou ~ true. they were federal employees and reagan had the discretion to fire them, but it was the clarion bell very early in reagan's administration about how things were going to be. maybe i've given reagan too much credit for destroying the middle class. like i said, i'll read the book, i wasn't aware of a scotus decision that busted labor. the court decision would seem almost a mirror image of reagan's actions no?

[billrakis]

Louis Tikas (Luis Tikas or Elias Spantidakis ) was a Greek from Crete, a trade unionist who was murdered in 1914 in Colorado USA during a monumental labor strike in the mines. The memory is still alive in American unions.In Rethymnon, place of origin, to his credit, there Spantidakis Elias Street. The Tikas soon acquired the confidence of employees and becoming a leading figure. The "Louis the Greek" or Leo the Cretan, was called as a legend....

[katheryn0swynford]

My grandfather, John Edgar Perry, was a 12 year old miner who witnessed this massacre and lived to tell the tale.

[jaikwillis]

people bitch about the unions, because they have forgotten what life was like without them, and how many people fought and died for the right to organize against the evil fascist libertarians.

[deusxmac]

@jaikwillis: you're right, they DO bitch about the unions, and have forgotten why they were begun. unfortunately, today that's true of the union leaders themselves -- who are just another face of greed at the expense of the little man. like everything else eventually does, they've become corrupt. it's time for change. for a new answer. i don't know what that answer IS -- i know it ISN'T the teaparty and their ilk, or big business. i'm so tired of all of it.

[Joeyland]

Without Woody, there would of been no "Bob"

[ExUSSailor]

"Workers of the World, Unite! You have nothing to lose, but your chains."

[deceiver123m]

i have heard so many different numbers for the total number of dead in this massacre, ITS RIDICULOUS... and then wikipedia had the balls to claim it was only 7 deaths lol

[patrickpjr]

Sean and I named our folk group the 'Ludlows' based on our love of Woodie

[a89alex]

Right after this JD Rockefeller hired, arguably, the first public relations representative who had him take pictures with a pic axe at the sight. The pictures got sent out to most major news papers and before you know it, people forgot and forgave thinking the wrongs were righted. So false, conditions never got better and most of them still suck, e.i. the west virginia minors a few months back who were not part of a union. FUCK the Rockefellers, god bless Woody, unionize now.

[steamjerry]

question, ?

[rogere007]

Wow...amazingly impactful.

[steamjerry]

some here some there ?

[OsamaBinForgotten2]

JD Rockefeller was calling the shots.

[shug2801]

Up the working class may we rise to the hights we desrve

[gringoflamenco]

The police and power of the government always support the wealthy ruling class, as Woody painfully illustrates in this song. Nothing has changed since then.

"oh you can't scare me,

I'm stickin to the Union...

til the day I die!"

[FYRFOX198]

I'm a UNION worker and I'm proud to be a UNION worker. Honestly, we never needed any unions all we needed was an HONEST EMPLOYER. If the Employers of America treated everyone like Human being and paid a TRUE WAGE for an HONEST days work, than none of this shit would've happened in the first place. These so called Elites are not human at all. From their inbred birth til death. They look at everone else as SUB-HUMAN. Rockefeller fixed it after HE murdered those people. It didn't have to be.

[Artamentous]

@FYRFOX198 There is no such thing as an honest employer. Your employment is based on his exploitation of your labor power, and the free work you give him. we all know no employer pays you what you do for him.

[FYRFOX198]

@Artamentous I understand, I'm just sayin' "IN A PERFECT WORLD"...I agree with you totally. I could never understand the word "multi-tasking". To me, that means - Multi-pay also...!

[barriolimbas]

Thank you for posting this vid, Read about this song in Howard Zinn's People's History of the U.S., Woody Guthrie is a true historian of the people & a hero

[Hybrid5226]

The thing that has always bothered me is songs like this show what keeps happening in history over an over an over an if it does not directly affect you ? we shrug are shoulders an say o well but it is just a matter of time before it will come to everyones front door an you will realize treating people like this is wrong .Period.

[TheDolmori]

@Hybrid5226 so, make history. (They did)

[1canyonguy]

@Hybrid5226 There a conection here to whats happening righ now about mountain top removal and things are being done-

[Benjammin911]

@Hybrid5226 - You got it man!

[ektrules]

@Hybrid5226 Yeah, people don't seem realize that every thing on earth is connected. Allowing worker exploitation in China (or anywhere else) will eventually cause the same thing happen everywhere else as everyone tries to compete.

People and systems need to stop promoting cut-throat competition, and embrace cooperation and friendly competition.

[Hybrid5226]

I love Woody Guthrie .

Johnny Cash to - workin for the man

[hurchel]

My grandfather was a coal miner in trinidad, my mom was born in 1928

so assuming he was at least eighteen, that would have taken him back to 1910 he could have been one of those kids. He became a justice of the peace around 1947. I believe I read in the rockefeller biography, that this was orcestrated by them one of their first coups you could say

Rest in peace, grandpa

[deceiver123m]

@hurchel Are u saying it was a coup against the coal mine, in the favor of unions, with the intention of later controlling the unions in the future? Or are u saying it was a coup against the rockefellers company/coal mine?

[hurchel]

@deceiver123m A coup against workers, then. But the unions have been taken over by the mafia now. I think they were a good thing once. But now they are like blood filled ticks. I am against unions our city is being ripped apart with all the unions.