@mtsn You didn't say that it CAN be played with a strat you said that it WAS a strat. Of course it can be played with a strat is can be played with anything and no a strat bridge cannot get that needle like tone that you hear in "this charming man" that's something particular to the tele. I know what a strat sounds like, I have one.
Hi Andy awesome tune just struggling to see what your playing on first Corus could you plead send me the tab it's from the 2 min 8 sec mark. Would really appreciate it thanks
@mtsn Wrong, it's a telecaster. I play guitar and I know what a strat sounds like. It's definitely a Tele. Besides, Johnny Marr is quoted as saying that he used a tele on most of the second record and in particular on "This Charming Man". He said he knows that most people thought it was a Rickenbacker but that it was a telecaster. Also, a Strat sounds NOTHING like the guitar sound in "This Charming Man". Any guitar player will tell you that.
@1con0clast I play guitar too and actually it can be played with a strat and even a Jag (there's more than one video of Marr playing it with a Jag I guess) and very few people can actually notice the subtle differences. I own a Variax and it can sound pretty close with the Strat bridge. People are used to the blues sound of the Strat (neck), but it's not always like that how it sounds....
@mtsn 'This Charming Man' was the first record where I used those highlife-sounding runs in 3rds. I'm tuned up to F# and I finger it in G, so it comes out in A. There are about 15 tracks of guitar. People thought the main guitar part was a Rickenbacker, but it's really a '54 Tele"
- Johnny Marr on "This Charming Man", Select, December 1993
@Chizzbuut So that the song is in a comfortable key for the singer's range. This is played (usually) with a capo on the 2nd fret, unless I'm mistaken...
@geofftayloruk yeah i know all that but the recording of charming man for example is just ever so slightly detuned on capo 2, not exactly on capo 2, or 1, or whatever. Kinda like on capo 1.8, i found it pretty wierd.
actually it was played on a telecaster contrary to popular belief, you're playing the initial verse riff wrong too, it opens up the bottom string. see my video demonstration.
I thought it might help some people if the diagrams were written out for the intro. Part 1 Intro Play the G string open with capo on 2nd fret B10 E9, B9 E7, B10 E10, B10 E9 B9 E7 B10 E9, B2 E2 (open) F9 B12 E12 Pick individually G9 B9 E9 B12 3rd part intro B9 E7 slide to B10 E9, B9 E7 B10 E10, B10 E9, B9 E7 B9 E7 slide to B10 E9, B2 E2, G9 B12 E12
uberlethergy....great comment... you must be really, really good!!! Even better than Johnny Marr (probably). In fact, why don't you post a masterclass to show us all how it should really be done. Can't wait (though i'm guessing we'll all be waiting till the end of time for that to happen!) Dick.
It would be really sweet to hear you play the whole song in one go. I play guitar myself and this clip will definitely help me play the song better, but the truth is that you play this song way better (the tuning, the sound, the timing) than any other video on youtube at the moment.
Sorry mate, your notes are in the right place but you strum doubles when you should pick singles. It's Johnny's logo for fast single notes. It may sound strummed but I assure you they're picked.
Thanks for your comment. Feedback like yours is why I make these videos and I'm so pleased that I helped you finally learn this. It is a great song and I had great fun working it out myself. Its a real challenge to play.
Ok so there might be some variations he didnt mention. Im not sure but i bet there are, would have to check. Anyway it was definitely helpful to me and after 30 mins of practicing im pretty much able to play the song now minus one or two details.
great man
tossturn 14 hours ago
@mtsn You didn't say that it CAN be played with a strat you said that it WAS a strat. Of course it can be played with a strat is can be played with anything and no a strat bridge cannot get that needle like tone that you hear in "this charming man" that's something particular to the tele. I know what a strat sounds like, I have one.
1con0clast 1 week ago
Awesome cover, instructions confusing but thankfully I can pause and play :)
MedicAlv1 1 month ago
Hi Andy awesome tune just struggling to see what your playing on first Corus could you plead send me the tab it's from the 2 min 8 sec mark. Would really appreciate it thanks
gazmozza 1 month ago
I believe that marr actually recorded this song with a telecaster. Most of the songs on the second record was done on a tele.
1con0clast 1 month ago
@1con0clast Strat. Source: smithsonguitar site.
mtsn 1 week ago
@mtsn Wrong, it's a telecaster. I play guitar and I know what a strat sounds like. It's definitely a Tele. Besides, Johnny Marr is quoted as saying that he used a tele on most of the second record and in particular on "This Charming Man". He said he knows that most people thought it was a Rickenbacker but that it was a telecaster. Also, a Strat sounds NOTHING like the guitar sound in "This Charming Man". Any guitar player will tell you that.
1con0clast 1 week ago
@1con0clast I play guitar too and actually it can be played with a strat and even a Jag (there's more than one video of Marr playing it with a Jag I guess) and very few people can actually notice the subtle differences. I own a Variax and it can sound pretty close with the Strat bridge. People are used to the blues sound of the Strat (neck), but it's not always like that how it sounds....
mtsn 1 week ago
@mtsn 'This Charming Man' was the first record where I used those highlife-sounding runs in 3rds. I'm tuned up to F# and I finger it in G, so it comes out in A. There are about 15 tracks of guitar. People thought the main guitar part was a Rickenbacker, but it's really a '54 Tele"
- Johnny Marr on "This Charming Man", Select, December 1993
1con0clast 1 week ago
@andybitt Youre a genius , thankyou
TheRockSlammer 4 months ago
nice playing mate ,tricky tune you pull it of well
11thedogfather 5 months ago
Are you related to Karl Pilkington?
xquickstrykex 6 months ago
Which EFFECTS do you use to play this song???
Good lesson Thanks ^^
Raufschunaiden 6 months ago
anyone know why this track is detuned? Its strange to see.
Chizzbuut 6 months ago
@Chizzbuut So that the song is in a comfortable key for the singer's range. This is played (usually) with a capo on the 2nd fret, unless I'm mistaken...
geofftayloruk 6 months ago
@geofftayloruk yeah i know all that but the recording of charming man for example is just ever so slightly detuned on capo 2, not exactly on capo 2, or 1, or whatever. Kinda like on capo 1.8, i found it pretty wierd.
Chizzbuut 6 months ago
HOW DO YOU DO THAT?!!
bezza321 8 months ago
Great class thanks !!
dosergiobr 9 months ago
actually it was played on a telecaster contrary to popular belief, you're playing the initial verse riff wrong too, it opens up the bottom string. see my video demonstration.
kickinupastorm 11 months ago
Thanks a bunch for posting this. Excellent teaching work, took me about 2 hours to get it down. I'll have to post a video of me playing it now...lol.
TheHoolahoof 1 year ago
THANKYOUTHANKYOU You help me out much on the intro :DDDDD i subbed
Bossness123 1 year ago
I get my tuner , and set it to about 432 instead off 440 and tune just like normally, then a capo at 2 if i like, works pretty fine :)
dudewheresmylespaul 1 year ago
superb lesson, ansolutely spot and superbly taught, my hat i take off to you sir!!
leonardjohnny67 1 year ago 6
@leonardjohnny67 And I doff my cap equally in your direction sir. Pleased to have been of service. :-)
andybltt 1 year ago 3
Fuck this shit! I wanna hear the song!
frostedhead 1 year ago
Thanks for the lesson, this has been really helpful.
dippydaday 1 year ago
Just subbed... fantastic lesson
LastBlueMist 1 year ago
I think that this is a good video. I'm not a big fan of the Smiths but my mum asked me to learn how to play it for her so I just did
101SLASH101 1 year ago
amazing, wanted to play that for years and you have made it possible. kind regards.
woozilmusic 1 year ago
Chorus Chords
D12 G11 B10 G11
D11 G10 B10 G10
D16 G14 B14 G14
A14 D13 G14 B14
D12 G11 B10 E12
A14 D13 G14 E14
latinhouseparty 1 year ago
Verse part two
G4 Slide to G6, B5 G2 (open)
B5, G2 (open) E2 (open) B5
G4 Slide to G6, B5, G2
B9, G9, E2, B9
latinhouseparty 1 year ago
latinhouseparty 1 year ago
thank you!
sabaqat 1 year ago
C'mon guys. Lets crack on.
regularjon 1 year ago
This lesson helped me learn a song i otherwise wouldnt be able to play, thanks alot mate :)
Micjal100 1 year ago
This lesson really helped me mate, thanks alot :)
Micjal100 1 year ago
did you give guitar lessons at a school in devon??
sampowell92 1 year ago
@sampowell92 ...and drink cider from 11? :-)
No, sorry not me I'm afrid. Must have been some other little bald fella.
andybltt 1 year ago 10
@andybltt feeder ftw :D I miss that band.
rupertacdc 1 year ago
@rupertacdc They never split up!
twobagz 1 year ago
@twobagz yeah i now, but i dont really listen to them anymore and to my knowleddge they haven't really made anything good recently
rupertacdc 1 year ago
@andybltt FEEDER!!!!
sjFALCONPUNCH01 4 months ago
@sampowell92 ha i'm from a school in devon, which are you talking about?
ilikegreengiraffes 1 year ago
@ilikegreengiraffes park school in barnstaple?
sampowell92 1 year ago
great lesson.thanks
alberti99 1 year ago
uberlethergy. You must be very very good. Can't wait until you post a masterclass (though I suspect we might be waiting a long, long time!)
woodseats44 1 year ago
uberlethergy....you are a guitar god
woodseats44 1 year ago
uberlethergy....great comment... you must be really, really good!!! Even better than Johnny Marr (probably). In fact, why don't you post a masterclass to show us all how it should really be done. Can't wait (though i'm guessing we'll all be waiting till the end of time for that to happen!) Dick.
woodseats44 1 year ago
wow you are by far one of the best teachers here on youtube ! please continue to make videos
and your guitar sounds awesome !
carlosmdiaz1 2 years ago
Excelente clase, muchisimas gracias.
MRockdrigo 2 years ago
Massive help!!! Cheers
CrackedLCD1 2 years ago
choppy qwards
awgment 2 years ago
It would be really sweet to hear you play the whole song in one go. I play guitar myself and this clip will definitely help me play the song better, but the truth is that you play this song way better (the tuning, the sound, the timing) than any other video on youtube at the moment.
stevebc 2 years ago
with the picked chords is it meant to be: d11,g9,b9,g9?.
eugene123423 2 years ago
@eugene123423 that is what I am wondering also. This is the part of the song that has stumped me forever for some reason.
latinhouseparty 1 year ago
thanks great help bud.well played
pinger08 2 years ago
Sorry mate, your notes are in the right place but you strum doubles when you should pick singles. It's Johnny's logo for fast single notes. It may sound strummed but I assure you they're picked.
uberlethergy 2 years ago
Actually, I pick sooo fast that they just look and sound like a strum. :-)
andybltt 2 years ago 9
finally im able to play this song in the correct way, after all these years
thank you so muuuuuuuuuuch!
traductor 2 years ago
Amazing video man! Incredibly helpful.
I've nearly got the fingering and progression down, its just a matter of getting the timing and pace.
You should do The Beatles 'And Your Bird Can Sing'. I can't figure it out for the life of me and it seems like a similar type of guitar riff.
Anyway, keep it up! Thanks so much! I love this song and have been dying to learn it.
ilikemusicandhockey 2 years ago
Very well played sir.
Johnny actually used a 54 Tele as the main guitar on the recording, so your sound is probably a lot closer than that of a Ric.
Very well played once again !
Coppertunes 2 years ago
Sounds like you know your stuff sir, so I'll take your compliment as high praise indeed. :-)
Thanks
andybltt 2 years ago
Thanks so much for this! I have wanted to be able to play this song for something like 20 years and now I can!!
moog1970 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment. Feedback like yours is why I make these videos and I'm so pleased that I helped you finally learn this. It is a great song and I had great fun working it out myself. Its a real challenge to play.
andybltt 2 years ago
great video cheers pal
woofwoof2406 2 years ago
The song is a masterpiece. you can't teach it in under 5 minutes. sorry.
ajm1992maskill 2 years ago 4
@ajm1992maskill
and yet he did.
Ok so there might be some variations he didnt mention. Im not sure but i bet there are, would have to check. Anyway it was definitely helpful to me and after 30 mins of practicing im pretty much able to play the song now minus one or two details.
Novacoma 1 year ago
nice job man, keep them coming plz
paskin36 2 years ago
YOUR BACK!!!!!!!!!
aerofr33k 2 years ago
nice lesson thanks.
can you do, How soon is now, please.
cheers
davehard99 2 years ago
first
OakCliffDavid214 2 years ago