The New Shock of the New: David Hockney on What's Unphotographable

[sylandi]

Can anyone tell me (especially the person who posted this video) where I can get a copy (VHS or DVD or full online streaming/download) of "The New Shock of the New"? How did you get ahold of this clip? Thanks!

[hieraxhideo]

this guy is also crap like all modern artists

[67nairb]

There was an episode of the SHOCK OF THE NEW from 1980 that was uploaded by someone on YOU TUBE last year which dealt with Surrealism. But now it's no longer available.

[67nairb]

Has Hughes ever produced and narrated a documentary on propaganda art in the 20th Century? Now that's a doc. I'd love to see.

[vitalalive69]

@67nairb robert hughes : the mona lisa curse

[67nairb]

@vitalalive69 Was that a documentary on propaganda art? Hughes could produce, direct and narrate a documentary on propaganda posters from the 20th century.

[vitalalive69]

@67nairb ITs a documantary and a very interesting one I have watched it .

watch?v=BKNkwLlgla8 is the first part although the title is in Sopanish the doc itself is in English. Once you watch this first part you can get connection to all six parts in Youtube

[vitalalive69]

@67nairb Its not a documentary about propaganda posters but in art general. Very interesting indeed how he points out thyat art has evolved from art to business !

[67nairb]

@vitalalive69 Speaking of the Mona Lisa, in the SHOCK OF THE NEW series from the early 80s, there was an episode called FACES OF POWER which discussed the impact of World War One's devastation in art and the connection between art and political power in the 20th Century. Dada was an artistic as well as political movement which began in Zurich during WW1 and would evntually to Austria and Germany after it.

[67nairb]

@vitalalive69 One such Dadaist artist Marcell Ducahmp and he did a painting of the Mona Lisa with moustache. Duchamp added that moustache to shock people and art critics. The Dada movement was sort of a statement bourgois middle class. Many of those Dada artists were Communists or had communist leanings.

[vitalalive69]

@67nairb You are right indeed, I think that all political entities especially the extreme ones use art as a means of propaganda. Hitler did the same , mussolini and SDtalin as well. On the other hand the extreme capitalist and materialistic world in which we live uses art as a means of business and using art on its own extreme way. Art like classical art has become business in the Western world and a means of propaganda in the estreme political wings.

[67nairb]

@vitalalive69 Rober Hughes did produce a documentary called the BUSINESS OF ART; they have a clip of the doc. on YOU TUBE and it shows how art can be prostituted by greedy and money hungry business all for the sake of a profit. Art as you explained is no longer movement or an occupation, it's a business. I really wish that Hughes would produce, direct, host and narrate a documentary on propaganda art it would be interesting.

[vitalalive69]

@67nairb I agree with you I also wish that art would be released from economic concerns and become art again independent and with the purpose of fascinating and interesting people. For that reason I think we need to get rid of so called artists more clowns like damien Hirst and greedy collectors who pump up prices at auctions. Maybe we need more artists like the classic artists we love to look at their works. if the human race has had classicial artists in the past Im sure we have them now too

[67nairb]

@vitalalive69 Art itself doesn't fascinate all that muc, but propaganda art is great. Propaganda can be a very persuavive, in a totalitarian state. But propaganda art can be even more persuavive, it's images can capture the eye.

[67nairb]

@67nairb I mean art itself doesn't fascinate "me" akll that "much."

[boogiebuddy01]

hes always been inspiring

[EchoCram]

Damn. I love David Hockney's style. His paintings from the 60s and 70s are exquisitely odd. His works in photography are some of the most thought-provoking I've ever seen.

[swanny2070]

Well, if you work in a field for more than 40 years, you don't need to go to Harvard...

[madelstudio]

First ,I see his liking Mattisse, Dufy , .... Reinventing the wheel at this time? Never the less. good artist .

[67nairb]

What year was this docunmentary what was the name of it.

[SoRandomTV]

@67nairb

It's called "The NEw Shock of the New"...made in 04...you can't really find it for sale anywhere but after much looking I finally found I taped off TV and hosted on Russian video site version streaming at a site called "art.docuwat.ch" (YouTube doesn't seem to like me linking)

This doco literally changed my life-my club nite is named after a quote from it..

[67nairb]

@SoRandomTV Thans for the info.

[67nairb]

@SoRandomTV Thanks info. Hughes talks in alot jargon and gobbledy gook that I don't understand but I like the way he said. He never finished high school and tranferred from one college to another. And yet he sounds like a Harvard or Oxford professor.

[sleepcity]

@67nairb Where exactly is this "jargon and gobbledy gook" you speak of? I've read several of Hughes' books and found them very accessible. If you think he writes badly I'd love to hear your reaction to most standard academic art history and criticism. Where did you read that he dropped out of high school? Which colleges did he attend beside the University of Sydney? He sounds "like a Harvard or Oxford professor" because he has a strong accent and is an extremely intelligent man. Is that bad?

[67nairb]

@sleepcity No I wasn't neccessarily critcizing the way Hughes talks or think he writes badly. He does like sound like a Harvard or Oxford Professor. It's just that art is not my forte. Hughes is an excellent and great narrator.

[67nairb]

@67nairb I forgot to mention that Hughes is an excellent documantarian as well as great narrator.

[njjudah]

What exactly is mediocre about these paintings?

[shaymultimedia]

Don't forget to use the word "mediocrity" when referring to Hockney, Mr Hughes. This is down there with the Hirst drawings which were recently skewered by the critics in London.

[almanacofsleep]

Hockney's work is much clearer and more focased than the recent Hirst paintings, which come off as a poor mans Francis Bacon.

[sleepcity]

@almanacofsleep Couldn't agree more. Hirst is a charlatan in addition to being, as we all can see now, a terrible painter.