I recommend "Eugenics and Other Evils" by G.K. Chesterton. He breaks down their sick thinking and the situation of the day that helped lead to it, all without losing his charming wit and pleasant style. It's free a Podiobooks
I hate the welfare system, but I believe people deserve basic respect and shouldn't be called scum or animals.
Your critical flaw is your third sentence. Can't afford a child? That is EXACTLY the way eugenicists think. They pushed contraceptives and planted the attitude of basing your family on an ideal budget. Contraceptives cause marriage problems, are linked with health problems and make eugenicists happy and rich.
If you keep thinking that way you play right into their hands
Few people realize Hitler got most of his ideas from the American eugenics movement - and yet we came out of WW2 feeling very self-righteous nonetheless
Similar cases happened all over Europe, some countries sterilized certain women until the 70s. And not to forget India during Indira Ghandi and how China's 1-child policy was sometimes enforced. Often liberals are being jeered at for championing cases no one cares about. But only if individual freedoms are safeguarded, no matter how much one might disagree with it, can we be sure that we ourselves remain free.
Yes, but eugenic sterilization as a policy happened in pretty much this exact way. Moreover, the state wasn't really seeking permission from Alice's parents. If they had said no, they would have gotten a court order, anyway.
In 1979, a researcher visited Doris Buck (Carrie's sister) who had also been in the institution, but now had been married for 39 years. The researcher read out important dates from her institution records - including the date of her sterilization. She cried out, and she and her husband were sobbing - she didn't know she had been sterilized at age 16. Doctors told her they were doing an appendectomy. For years she felt she'd failed because she couldn't have children.
Carrie Buck was operated upon, receiving a compulsory tubal ligation. She was later paroled from the institution as a domestic worker to a family in Bland, Virginia. She was an avid reader until her death in 1983. Her daughter Vivian had been pronounced "feeble minded" after a cursory examination by ERO field worker Dr. Arthur Estabrook. She did very well in school for two years (but died of complications from measles in 1932), after being on her school's honor roll in April 1931.
thespia-please read up on your history. This is NOT fictional. It happened in this exact way. All you have to do is get off your butt and type "US eugenics laws" or "Buck vs. Bell" into a search engine. Your lack of knowledge is also the fault of the academy and media-no one hears about these things.
Actually, this film diverges from the Carrie Buck story in two important ways:
1. No one sought permission from Carrie's kin. Carrie and her mother were in the same institution that branded them both "feeble-minded".
2. Carrie's case was not taken to court by a concerned beau or doctor, but by the eugenicists that wanted to win a test case for their sterilization law (including her lawyer): hence "Fixed To Fail". Carrie had NO ONE supporting her.
I recommend "Eugenics and Other Evils" by G.K. Chesterton. He breaks down their sick thinking and the situation of the day that helped lead to it, all without losing his charming wit and pleasant style. It's free a Podiobooks
dannypt04 6 months ago
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dannypt04 6 months ago
sure, scum should breed, not only that we should encourage them to breed so that we have more scum.
People don't realise that we already have "eugenics" but in reverse.
Decent-minded, hard working couples put off having children because they cannot afford them.
Why can't they afford them ? Because they are being taxed to the hilt and that tax money is going to scum who breed like animals.
Welfare is eugenics in reverse. It's just that you idiots can't see it because you are also scum.
kbdkbd99 10 months ago
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dannypt04 6 months ago
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dannypt04 6 months ago
@kbdkbd99,
I hate the welfare system, but I believe people deserve basic respect and shouldn't be called scum or animals.
Your critical flaw is your third sentence. Can't afford a child? That is EXACTLY the way eugenicists think. They pushed contraceptives and planted the attitude of basing your family on an ideal budget. Contraceptives cause marriage problems, are linked with health problems and make eugenicists happy and rich.
If you keep thinking that way you play right into their hands
dannypt04 6 months ago
god i can't even watch this it's so fucked up
gluntford 10 months ago
Just like classism.........demonize the poor, so the population will be all for it!!!!
poo0115104 1 year ago
A breakfast nook AND a radio, now that's living!
Few people realize Hitler got most of his ideas from the American eugenics movement - and yet we came out of WW2 feeling very self-righteous nonetheless
TitenSxull 2 years ago 8
People should click on the "more info" under the YT user's icon.
FREEW0RLD2012 2 years ago
Similar cases happened all over Europe, some countries sterilized certain women until the 70s. And not to forget India during Indira Ghandi and how China's 1-child policy was sometimes enforced. Often liberals are being jeered at for championing cases no one cares about. But only if individual freedoms are safeguarded, no matter how much one might disagree with it, can we be sure that we ourselves remain free.
modibbo0607 2 years ago
Because it really happened you dolt.(thespia)
FREEW0RLD2012 2 years ago
another reason not to vote for Obama
jackinla8 3 years ago
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FREEW0RLD2012 2 years ago
Yes, but eugenic sterilization as a policy happened in pretty much this exact way. Moreover, the state wasn't really seeking permission from Alice's parents. If they had said no, they would have gotten a court order, anyway.
Progo35 3 years ago 5
In 1979, a researcher visited Doris Buck (Carrie's sister) who had also been in the institution, but now had been married for 39 years. The researcher read out important dates from her institution records - including the date of her sterilization. She cried out, and she and her husband were sobbing - she didn't know she had been sterilized at age 16. Doctors told her they were doing an appendectomy. For years she felt she'd failed because she couldn't have children.
Same story as many others.
justJunya 3 years ago 3
The researcher was K. Ray Nelson, who relates this story in his book "The Sterilization of Carrie Buck".
justJunya 3 years ago
@justJunya
Carrie Buck was operated upon, receiving a compulsory tubal ligation. She was later paroled from the institution as a domestic worker to a family in Bland, Virginia. She was an avid reader until her death in 1983. Her daughter Vivian had been pronounced "feeble minded" after a cursory examination by ERO field worker Dr. Arthur Estabrook. She did very well in school for two years (but died of complications from measles in 1932), after being on her school's honor roll in April 1931.
72Yonatan 10 months ago
thespia-please read up on your history. This is NOT fictional. It happened in this exact way. All you have to do is get off your butt and type "US eugenics laws" or "Buck vs. Bell" into a search engine. Your lack of knowledge is also the fault of the academy and media-no one hears about these things.
Progo35 3 years ago 2
Actually, this film diverges from the Carrie Buck story in two important ways:
1. No one sought permission from Carrie's kin. Carrie and her mother were in the same institution that branded them both "feeble-minded".
2. Carrie's case was not taken to court by a concerned beau or doctor, but by the eugenicists that wanted to win a test case for their sterilization law (including her lawyer): hence "Fixed To Fail". Carrie had NO ONE supporting her.
justJunya 3 years ago
We're from the government we're here to help.
stupidmonkey666 3 years ago
sterilization + labor camp + organ harvesting = one great nation!
black0jackass 4 years ago
lmao, you betcha ;)
inaneframe 4 years ago
You forgot the sperm banks
izeman458 4 years ago