DNA Science and the Book of Mormon Part 1

[omiolo]

Greg Ridsdale of Ridsdale Transport generously agreed to convey our goods to Calgary," she said.

"Our big concern after palletizing was, how can we ask Ridsdale to take nine pallets now instead of the six we had estimated," she said. "But Greg's response was 'Nine pallets is not a problem at all. We are happy to help.' "

[omiolo]

"Finding a transport company that would ship for us at no cost was also a huge concern," Watson said. That's where Wayne Pedersen of Pedersen's Transport in Lethbridge, whom she calls "our unsung hero," stepped up with his connections to arrange transporting the pallets to B.C.

[megloman1975]

Facts don't have no truth, and you don't care what scientist say. DNA prove the Native Americans come from Asia. No Mormon fantasy. Living in the worst.... are you looking to prove you false donkey waste right, or are you looking just to get numbers.

[frostykind]

I'd like to know more about Brigham Young and the 10 ft tall men on the moon.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Seems to me like you already know all about it. You've probably even met em and have shaken their hands.

[omiolo]

"Our loving Heavenly Father clearly revealed, and His prophet faithfully recorded, the principles of clean technique in the handling of infected patients more than 3,000 years ago! These scriptures are in complete harmony with modern medical guidelines. But during those many millennia, how many mothers needlessly perished? How many children suffered because man's quest for knowledge had failed to incorporate the word of the Lord in that quest?"

[kinduvabigdeal]

I come here wanting to hear the Mormon side of this argument and I get a tour of Idaho then told not to even move there? I've been robbed of 10 minutes of my life.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

With your attitude, I am sure you have wasted *years* of your life already, quit bitchin about a mere ten minutes. GRIN!

[kinduvabigdeal]

Sadly enough I have to agree with you. That's why I tried doing something with it like learning about other people's beliefs. Now that I know how valuable time is I take it a little bit more seriously. So yeah I'm mad about my 10 minutes. Either way thank you for tour of Idaho.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

You still miss the entire point. The *experience* of being alive is NEVER wasted, no matter what you have done, no matter what you do. USE your eyes and ENJOY the beauty of my videos along with what I say. NOTHING I have *EVER* done is wasted, not for me, nor for any of my viewers. We are ALIVE. Get it?

[kinduvabigdeal]

I actually agree with you. Everything comes back to serve a purpose one way or another. And I really did enjoy the scenery up there it's beautiful. I was just a sad because I was looking forward to hearing about what your title implied. I was meeting with some missionaries and I have my thoughts on Mormonism but I was looking to hear your side of the story before I came to any conclusions. Either way again I'm sorry about my prior comment I was in a bad mood at the time. See my post on pt 4

[brettporterbrett]

@TheBackyardProfessor YOU TELL EM NUTTY BACKYARD PRO. GRIN!

[JustinOsbore]

the book of mormon is a false book

In revelation it said not to add or take away from the bible.

I agree with science because it really proved the book of mormon wrong.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

You are still simply wrong. Joseph Smith said in the Times and Seasons that Book of Mormon cities were in Guatemala. But not having read anything Mormon, of course, I understand why you really didn't know that. No surprise for me.

[humanistheart]

@TheBackyardProfessor

Then why have mormon dig sites not been done primarily in Guatemala? Why have you looked up and down north and central america as well?

Also, did this video actually talk about dna at all?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Notice the part 1.....it is a series of videos because I am not allowed more than 10 minutes per video. This is a 10-12 part series. So in the introduction, I probably did not spend much time on DNA. Gee, does ANY book 's introdfuction give you the meat, analysis, and contextualization of the rest of the 600 pages?

[humanistheart]

@TheBackyardProfessor

Tables of content, summaries, and dustjackets are fairly common. These give a general idea of what will be covered, unlike this opening video.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

You are simply wrong.

[StaceyC123]

So where are these "relics"? If we can find museums-full worth of artifacts from people who had nothing more than stone, bone, and wood to work with, how is it that the supposedly "advanced lost tribes of Israel" that the con-man Smith claims existed, have left NOTHING?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I'll make ya a deal bud....... your shotgun blast was truly useless and missed the mark(s). Sorry! Lets do this ONE idea at a time, and THOROUGHLY and ***FAIRLY*** explore just what the Bible DOES teach against the LDS ideas shall we? I will let you pick ONE topic, and lets explore it. I shall even produce some vids just for you, cause I see some spunk, and I like that! Pick yer topic, and I shall explain why it ISN'T refuting LDS doctrine.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

No it doesn't. Your interpretation is what is skewed, not the scriptures.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Yes there is more than plenty of the Bible that supports LDS doctrine. Sorry, you're simply wrong here.

Modern translations are irrelevant also. Unless you get to the Hebrew and Greek, you simply won't get the meaning of the Bible.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I read all of the scriptures, and the KJV is not anywhere near as good as the Hebrew and Greek of the Bible. English translations don't do the scriptures justice as to what they mean.

[glycoboy]

i love your videos... please please don't spend more than ten seconds on sunsets and pointless talk. YOU WILL LOSE VIEWERS IF YOU DON'T JUST SHOW THE FACTS.... no one comes to these videos with tons of patients... tell them what they came to hear... DNA... thanks professor

[fubecabr]

"It is physically impossible for DNA to prove the BoM false."

Uh, why? Mr. Smith, Mr. Young, and others said that native americans were lamanites. The mormon god also thought so in the D&C. Yet we test the ancestry of native americans and it's asiatic. And haplogroup x dates back around 30,000 years, well outside the timeframe of the BoM and well outside the timeframe of the earth's temporal existence, according to the mormon god.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Read the book I was reading from, or else watch the series of vids on DNA & the Book of Mormon I produced, as I explain their scientific rationale....... it's all rather interesting I assure you. DON'T take my word for it, get the book and learn for yourself. Its a small book, a little over a hundred pages, easy to knock off in an evening.

[fubecabr]

I don't remember you mentioning a book in the video. Just some complaints about critics and then you go on about how beautiful idaho is, as if it compares to alaska, :)

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I don't think it was in the first part of the series, but I use it in many of the parts of this series.

[fubecabr]

"The critics have a hard time staying rational when it comes to the BoM?"

LOL, isn't it LDS Inc that teaches that one should listen to one's emotions to find truth and throw evidence and logic out the window?

"...so determined to prove it false, no matter what."

How many times and in how many ways has the BoM been discredited? How much more obvious does it need to get?

"It _?_ their studies and conclusions"

Yeah, the American Journal of Human Genetics is just a vast anti-mormon conspiracy.

[glycoboy]

no! don't throw rational out the window! no one teaches that.. its just that the Holy Ghost transcends all of our various prideful perspectives... God teaches us this in the bible, 1 cor 2:9-16, gal, 1:12 (this verse also shows how god teaches his people not by throwing them text (bible) but by leaders who have revelation. thats how God communicates truth. eph 3:5, 4:12-14... men corrupt purity with their man made proofs.. one by one year after year these truths come clear though..

[omiolo]

@fubecabr yeah, when the Mormons teach Biochemistry, Molecular biology, and genetics at BYU they do NOT use books or study ANYTHING. The tests and homework is simply done by using ones emotions?? YOU are an IDIOT and a DECEIVER. Congrats.

[skyaglow]

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[skyaglow]

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[skyaglow]

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[skyaglow]

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[skyaglow]

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[omiolo]

"it sucks to live here believe me"

you crack me up!

[omiolo]

rd1999,

after reading President Kimball's quotes. I am convinced that the word "principal" meant something different to Kimball than it did to genetic scientists today.

[rd1999]

you crack me up. in order to divert the claims of the Book of Mormon in the latest edition the Church changed the introduction to the book from

"...After thousands of years all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians."

To

"...After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are among the ancestors of the American Indians."

[rd1999]

If you read the history you will see that Joesph Smith clearly saw the American Indians as the seed of Lehi

Joseph Smith said: "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book."

[rd1999]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints says

Lamanites No Longer Principal Ancestors of American Indian

Seems to me like the Church is back peddling away from this claim.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Not really. We are just beginning to understand the complexity of the situation more than we did originally. No biggie. I am more than certain that the Maxwell Institute will address this, as Meldrum and Stephens did in their book which I read from to produce the DNA vids anyway. Read their book, it's pretty decent.

[omiolo]

rd1999,

"Seems to me like the Church is back peddling away from this claim."

they clearly are, like they have back peddle away from other archaeology claims. do you remember the golden book of mormons with the mars hill pictures?

[rd1999]

I do remember seeing those books with the gold cover with the weird symbols on them. I always thought that was just made up, what is mars hill?

[omiolo]

rd1999,

"what is mars hill? "

mars hill was the picture on the inside cover. it was claimed that the mars hill ruins were jaradite ruins. It was embarrassing. They were actually old norse ruins. the ruins are outside of boston, mass.

[rd1999]

Dude talk about back peddling on geography, the thing that gets me is Joseph Smith identified a pile of stone in Missouri that he said was Adams alter where he offered sacrifice. Even Joseph should have know that would be a hard sell if you are going to teach a global flood and continents separating less than 4k years ago.

I just hope we don't have to wait till Jesus come back before we can get rid of some of this Dogma we teach

[omiolo]

rd1999,

"the thing that gets me is Joseph Smith identified a pile of stone in Missouri"

the problem I have with that is that even though those quotes are attached to JS, there is no way of proving that he actually said that. For example a few months ago there was a prophecy and story circulating that Boyd Packer said. It wasn't true and he didn't say it. The church had an announcement read in sacrament meetings denying such a story! It happens now it happened then!

[rd1999]

"Again Presdet Young said Joseph the Prophet told me that the garden of Eden was in Jackson Co Missouri, & when Adam was driven out of the garden of Eden He went about 40 miles to the Place which we Named Adam Ondi Ahman, & there built an Altar of Stone & offered Sacrifize. That Altar remains to this day. I saw it as Adam left it as did many others, & through all the revolutions of the world that Altar had not been disturbed: The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, Signature Books, 1993, p. 305)

[rd1999]

Who cares if the fabricator of "Adams alter" is Joseph Smith or Wilford Woodruff both served as President of the church and were equally wrong.

[omiolo]

rd1999,

I think that continues to prove my point. It is like the game of telephone. similar to the previous story I canted!

[rd1999]

How can you trust what a prophet says if they are often saying stuff that is bunk. Wilfred Woodruff another prophet is supposed to be this great witness his diaries famous I guess he just made it up then.

You Mormons are so blind to your own history, what ever part of your brain you have to switch off to make that church pew more comfortable eh

[omiolo]

rd1999,

"You Mormons are so blind to your own history, what ever part of your brain you have to switch off to make that church pew more comfortable eh"

I was waiting for that to come out!

or could it be that we understand our history very well and we know where all truth comes from?

[rd1999]

???!!!???

[Gutcheckcoming]

lol dont worry about omilo rd his heads deeply buried in the sand when it comes to facts kinda like this video saying dna doesnt disprove it when it does

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I would absolutely ***LOVE*** to see you show how DNA ***proves*** the Book of Mormon wrong. Please consider this an invite to show the evidence. Your word, I will not take as evidence simply because you say so and so. I showed you the scientific evidences, now can you do the same? I await in anticipation.

[Gutcheckcoming]

theirs plenty of it whole video series showing how dna tears it to shreds, not to mention nephites never existed

[TheBackyardProfessor]

And these would be.....?

[Gutcheckcoming]

you havent seen the movies going over the dna history of native americans ?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Not any more than you have read that book I used for DNA in these videos. Fun to be ignorant isn't it......

[Gutcheckcoming]

im not ignorant your using falsified information :)

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Who falsified and when and where? Your claim is specious until you rpove what I used is falsified. Names. Give me names of books, authors, scientists who have falsified Meldrum and Stephens information. Talk is cheap and easy, show me.

[Gutcheckcoming]

native american dnas been clearly mapped to asian dna, all others were mixed as colonization began, every other scientist but the two you looked at that studies genealogy would agree.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Nowhere *near* the truth. Had you bothered to read them first before pontificating in ignorance about what they believe you would see why your credibility is precisely nonexistent. READ before you spout of on that which you know nothingof, it will save you a lot of embarrassment.

[Gutcheckcoming]

I talked to a genealogy professor and he said that and showed me multiple text books, as well as the fact that its a common known fact and you are completely ignorant.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I'll just *bet* you did, all right...... man there's overwhelming evidence for us! LOL!

[Gutcheckcoming]

you dont need evidence anyways you got a burning in the bossom lol.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I have never said anything of the sort. Where is your evidence? Once again, you merely presume to say things as if that constitutes evidence. You are destitute of evidence for your silly claims.

[Gutcheckcoming]

google it or look at native american genealogy books on amazon its asian.ever read about the cold talkers that in war used navajo code for the military and were constantlly ridiculed for looking just like the asians they were at war with , its obvious to the human eye if you understand asian is more than just japanese in chinese they aint all round faced but the traits are obvious.

[antony1985]

Okay have you ever thought the people that are Jews now days aren't the same Jews of modern times! Plus there's several tribes of Jews and I'm sure they didn't test every single tribe! After all many of the tribes of Jews mentioned in the Bible doesn't exist anymore!

[Gutcheckcoming]

you mean their are several tribes of israelites ?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Last I read there were 12 tribes of Israel, yes. That's assuming the Bible accurately portrays that. 10 of them are lost, hence the famous Lost 10 Tribes of Israel.

[antony1985]

So there's only two that exist now days? I didn't know that! Could you explain more please? You got me hooked now!

[antony1985]

yes originally there were 12 tribes! All twelve tribes were fathered by 12 different fathers and well the mothers were from all over the area and may have not have had any Jewish blood in them!

[Gutcheckcoming]

their culture was rather legalistic on marriage, hence the reason abrahams sent a servant back to his place of origin to find a wife for his son. It's crazy vague to say may not have or i bet they didnt have. Scholarly discussions of any matter shouldn't involve "what if's"

[Gutcheckcoming]

do people that never read anything scholarly instantly talk in exclamation points like it magically makes what they are saying valid.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Hey knock of the stupid accusations and produce something of value here or I will remove your inane rantings.

[omiolo]

rd1999,

"Seems to me like the Church is back peddling away from this claim."

they clearly are, like they have back peddle away from other archaeology claims. do you remember the golden book of mormons with the mars hill pictures?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

And Meldrum and Stephens address just this point, which I INCLUDED in the first series of DNA videos. You crack me up for not yet coming up to date by viewing my videos. Ain't it groovy that we both crack each other up? LOL!

[hamblinwj]

The Maxwell Institute is coming out with a collection of all the articles Maxwell published in the past couple of years on DNA. D. Peterson (ed.) The Book of Mormon and DNA Research (Maxwell Institute, 2008). It should be out in the next few weeks.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Ah! Thank you for this information. It is yet again, more of what I say in my many videos, the work and learning and knowledge is simply not over, not by any means, and new materials come out. I am looking very forward to this new light.