Titanic: The Legend Lives On (1994) A&E Special - Part 2

[cowb12]

May they rest in piece.

[TheYuuzhan]

@billy1212ist You sure talk a lot...

[effo88]

@billy1212ist If you wanna argue about something, it's a good idea to stick to the subject (in this case humans lives beeing risked in the service of primary travel-sience). I didn't mention any of the things that you pointee out

[TheYuuzhan]

@billy1212ist That sounds interesting...

[billy1212ist]

@TheYuuzhan *In the time of the Crusades,I would design shields & emblems,do portraits etc.In the Old West,I would do those naked lady painting.that hang over the bar,or News Paper Illustrations.SignShops were always needed.In Space,computer graphics.Previously I thought that I would be the Hero Knight,or the Sheriff,or like Captain Kurk,In reality I would probably be me,an artisan,painting,or writing stories,design stages.And naked models is a constant in time and space,right?

[CrimsonPetal100]

Thank you for uploading this! This documentary was so moving! I feel it really captures what happened on that fateful night in 1912 and the impacts of the disaster. It has almost been 100 years, yet the story lives on as a tragic lesson...May those who died when the ship went down, and the survivors (as none are still alive) rest in peace, knowing they will not be forgotten.

[TK42100]

I wish I could see the look on that Wall Street Journal writer's face when he eventually found out just wrong his article was.

Apparently the New York Evening Sun went so far as to criticize the Times about its coverage as well. Sometimes I like to imagine Van Anda running around, pointing his finger at the naysayers and saying "HA!"

[waynec6504]

don't forget about the people who died making the Titanic.

[TravisDrago]

I can't even Imagine the loss felt by the workers I mean working day and night hours after endless hours gone just like that

[TheYuuzhan]

This is one thing I use to hear on the History Channel before it showed its programs and I will never forget it. "If you lived before our time, who would you be...?"

[billy1212ist]

@TheYuuzhan * That's easy for me.I'd be the same (me),just all around me would differ.I'd be an artist,just like I am now,and happy,and a good person.

[TravisDrago]

100 years man, hits me everytime, Eva Hart a Survivor said it best

If a Ship goes down by being hit by a torpedo that's war, if it is lost in a storm it's nature but people dying because of not enough life boats that's Unacceptable

[effo88]

One of the saddest things concerning the aftermath of Titanic is that today, about 100 years later, it's as if the causes of the catastrophe seems to be just another bracket in the history-books. What other explanations is there to be found as cause to the very idea of i.e Concorde? Not that the casualties caused by the crash can nearly be compared to those when Titanic sank. But they both share the same initiating ideal: the strive to overcome the forces of nature and their limits.

[billy1212ist]

@effo88 * That's what we do,(mankind) that computer that your typing on is OK though isn't it ? The DVD's,cars,highways,80 story buildings,Big Cities,subways,food stores,air conditioning,are all OK too ?Right ?Seeming just another bracket,is what YOU feel,many others don't.Mistakes are made,we are only human.People died,but we are in space,where our curiosity has met it's match.For a while anyway.

[akeames]

Very well done doc...

[TheLaughingGnomes]

brilliant two part doc , loved every minute - very moving stuff as always , thanks for sharing

oh and that one dislike , looks like one person must be the ancestor of Lord of the Californian :)

[KingBlackCharger]

That's some favortism shit right there. How the hell you put First-Class People in a coffin but put the damn Second-Class-Third Class in bags?

[bradyischamp]

why is there no real footage of the rear of the ship? propellers and such? im sure they must have found that part of the ship.

[samispock]

@bradyischamp probably because that part of the ship is so badly damaged, its very dangerous for them to go to close to the stern section.

[DAVERUKY]

i would love to see some of titanic saved before she totally rots, i heard it wont be long until the wreck caves in on itself. we saved the mary rose so why cant we try with titanic??? weird thing is if she didnt sink she wouldnt have been famous--just look her sister ship she not famous.she sunk cos her crew were a set of noobs that didnt know how 2 operate a big boat,no binoculars=negligence,get them sued.

[Thirdgen83]

It's NOT a grave. There are no people there anymore, just wreckage.

They should bring some of that stuff up...

[bond1011]

@LostWhiteStarLiners well im gonna try to go on april 14th, if not im just gonna have to persevere. I hope to see you there mr/mrs. whoever you are :P

[bond1011]

I live near branson missouri where there is a fairly large titanic museum and on april 14th 2012, im gonna go pay my respects to everyone who lost their lives that night. I feel so sorry for everyone that lost someone they loved.

[LostWhiteStarLiners]

@bond1011 I plan on heading that way myself on or near April 14. Cant afford to go to Europe to see real Titanic locations, so Branson will do. Might wait and go a month later just to avoid the large crowds that will be there through the month of April.

[kayper54]

That poor, little Ruth Blanchard. I can't believe how badly she was treated at only 12 years old. Not allowed to get into a boat with her family, being told by one adult to give her blanket to another adult when there were probably 2 dozen other adults in her boat who could've given THEIR coats or blankets. Then her own mother deciding that Ruth should be the one the reporters spoke to instead of protecting her from them. I guess back then age 12 was considered full grown and mature.

[kayper54]

And worse, if she'd been a boy, she probably wouldn't have been allowed to get into a boat at all. I mean, honestly, what was the cut-off age when a boy stopped being considered a child and was considered at grown man? 10? 12? Younger, even? There have been times when I wish I could give Officer Lightoller a good swat upside the head. Even boys who are as old as 15 or 16 are NOT grown-ups. They still belong in the childrens' category.

[kayper54]

I wonder if Eva Hart ever realized that the screams and cries weren't the sounds of people drowning, but of people freezing to death. Having been tossed suddenly into extremely cold water myself, I can say that the coherent conversation Jack and Rose have in the movie while in the freezing water was beyond impossible. That said, Baker Joughin's survival is fascinating to me; I would love to see some research on his case.

[DAVERUKY]

@kayper54 baker was a cool guy rode the ship down then chilled out 4 a long time without dying! really cool while others just panicked!!!

[JustAintthatWay]

@kayper54 yes the comparison that hit home for me was the wintertime air florida plane crash into the river in washington dc back in the 1980s

the survivors five or six floating in the ice filled water you could see them their ability to even move their arms became less and less within minutes a horrifying thing to witness

[MDkid1]

The Titanic disaster was quite simply the 9/11 of 1912. It was enough to shake the world to its core, and keep it talking for years to come. Still!

[MDkid1]

That dear lady, Ruth Blanchard...I feel so bad for her, she's still affected by it even years later. Thankfully, her family was all saved (her father wasn't on the ship), but the whole experience was trying still.

[TheWittumator]

Thank you so much for uploading. I've watched this doc since I was a kid and still brings chills and tears.

[pucksterz12]

The most amazing this about The Titanic was the people who survived to tell their stories here.

[lovelydiva06]

unsinkable, that word makes me cringe, how naive they were, great documentary

[daro2096]

These two documentaries always move me to tears.

[lassenelle]

Thanks for uploading this series. April 2012 will be the 100th anniversary of her tragic end.

[SpokaneGirl85]

Did they actually dump some bodies back in the ocean? Did I hear that right?

[TwilightGeisha]

@SpokaneGirl85 unfortunatly yes. Health regulations forced them to send bodies back into the sea, (usually third class) as well as th fact they didnt have enough room on the ship.

[MDkid1]

@SpokaneGirl85 The ones that were already perishing, yes, they put them back into the ocean. The Mackay Bennett didn't have enough room as it was, so they had no choice I suppose.

[87soxfan]

what did ballard mean by belt buckles? legit question

[48alfaone]

Maybe your right? But has also bin said that Second Officer Lightoller was paid off to hide many facts? Three years later "Commander" Lightoller became a new member of first class society? later in life he often made conflicting statements about that night? I never said here that "all" the rich men were bad, but most were! I myself come from old British money, my Grandfather who came to Canada in 1914 to become a Mountie told me many sad stories from those days about the treatment of the poor.

[1258688394]

Where was the RMS Lusitania or the RMS Mauretania on April 15th, 1912? If either ship had been within 50 nautical miles of Titanic, they probably would have gotten there in time, if not to rescue passengers straight off the deck, at least to get some passengers out of the water. The first distress signal was sent out from Titanic at about 12.15 am, and the ship finally sank around 2.20 am. That would have given the two "Greyhounds of the Sea" about 2.05 hours, going at full speed to get there.

[48alfaone]

After all the great legends & grand tales of the Titanic tragedy are told, the cold slap in the face that remains is the Fact that the poor always get fucked over by the rich! (did wealthy men die that cold night, "Yes")! But whole families of poor men women & "children" never had a chance, (while the men with money & so called standing placed their families in "Life" boats)! I hope a few rich guys went to the bottom while receiving a good shit kicking. RIP "everyone".

[TheHeatSims]

@48alfaone Are you kidding? How could you say something like that? Most of the third class families couldn't find their ways out of the maze of corridors that was the 3rd class area. Some gates were locked. A steward managed to bring 3 groups of 3rd class passengers on deck, and even if they all had made it there wouldn't be enough lifeboats for them all. Don't fault men who bravely stood back and went down with the ship.

[48alfaone]

@TheHeatSims The poor had 2 hours to get on deck, "No"! Yes the ship was huge and a maze of corridors. But they went down in the ship while boarding, had 4 days to walk around? All you do is go up up up, "any human knows that", Ladders stairs even elevators! "Fact is most were locked down below", some broke out, and yes some were saved by Hero's, even a few rich hero's! Being kept like pigs below greatly reduced their chance of survival. "Fact is more rich guys survived than poor children"!

[TheHeatSims]

@48alfaone I had read somewhere that it took Officer Lightoller (Or one of them) about a week or so just to figure out where he was in the 3rd class area. Most of the 3rd class were emigrants who spoke little to no English. Some made it up but were lost in the unfamiliar 2nd and 3rd class areas. As far as I know they were not held back like pigs, but merely had to fend for themselves.

[bassplayer2011ify]

@48alfaone the sad thing is this is still happening today its just a lot less evident but if you look around you can still see social boundaries but they are still there and if people weren't bigoted stuff like this wouldn't happen

[bubblinbrownsugar616]

@48alfaone I'm with you on the first class passengers. The stuckup ignorance of those people while 3rd class passengers would have gladly taken a seat in the lifeboats because they had the common sense to realize something was wrong. Just pathetic I agree.

[billy1212ist]

@bubblinbrownsugar616 *Not ALL 1st class passengers were"stuck up",maybe "old money" types.Plenty of them the"new money",were smart enough to see the truth.

[bubblinbrownsugar616]

@billy1212ist I know that. It's just most of the stuck up ones lived.

[billy1212ist]

@bubblinbrownsugar616 * So do I.At the end of one of these Titanic films,they give the tally of 1st,2nd,3rd class survivors.Why do you keep with the "stuckup",ones stigma ? Yes,most of the Wealthy lived,most were nice wealthy people,do you know any,have you ever known any?"SOME"of them were the "stuckup"morons that you so vilely detest.Did most of the"stuckup" ones survive?Many were too"stuckup"to leave.I've known many very wealthy people (old money),they were kind and giving people.A FEWsucked.

[bubblinbrownsugar616]

@billy1212ist OH STFU! When I read the crew told those 1st/2nd class passengers to put on lifejackets and come out on deck and they don't do it,I'll call them stuck up. When I read they were told to get in lifeboats and don't follow order, I'll call them stuck up. When I read of third class passengers actually following orders have to wait for the high and mighty STUCK UP 1st class passengers that refuse to listen yes I'LL CALL THEM STUCK UP!!!

[billy1212ist]

@bubblinbrownsugar616 You mix up "stuck up" with stupid.What does OH STFU! mean? If you need to call them stuck up,that's fine with me.

[billy1212ist]

@48alfaone * You are a backwards person,and you drove an ambulance?Why?The "good money?" The poor don't always get screwed,the stupid do.Your jealousy clouds your mind.There were"stupid" rich that were oblivious,or above it all,and good people with money too.The poor who would not stand for it,got out.You hope some rich guys died,after a good shit kicking,then say RIP ? Money,doesn't make one good or bad,your jealousy of the rich,makes them bad.A bad person,sees bad allot,to feel at home in it.

[goddaor]

This is awesome I got this on VHS but VCR anymore to watch it this is great thank you

[llallyjohnsonll]

So, I stayed up all night just to watch this. Thank you for uploading! <3 I am fascinated with all things titanic!