If one follows the 'logic' (if that's the right word) propsed in this video then everyone who does a cr"p interview on TV must be hiding some terrible secret. Maybe Armstrong had a bad day or a dose of the scoots.
Ad Onor del Vero l'uomo non è ancora andato sulla Luna !
Troverete le prove schiaccianti digitando su GOOGLE " WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON "
Se invece preferite continuare a credere che dodici astronauti americani sono stati sulla Luna, fate pure così ! - CONTENTI VOI CONTENTI TUTTI !! ( ...soprattutto quelli che vi hanno sonoramente turlupinati ! - AH ! AH ! AH ! AH ! )
Ciao a tutti dall'Italia e, se potete, cercate almeno di starmi bene !
I'd say it's not guilt so much as "I'm probably going to die tomorrow." Have you seen how many spacecrafts have blown up before even leaving the atmosphere?
I don't think it matters if someone is a "trained"cop, indeed some private investigators are far more adept at spotting liars and things which don't add up than cops are. Many grandmothers are better at spotting a fake than a kid who just graduated college.
Juries decideon guilt based on evidence. we are the jury of the world and there is enough bullshit going on with naza and lies, misrepresentations and obvious clues that don't add up for us to be the jury and for them to stand accused.
It's just that you conspiracy nuts have no evidence for a hoax because there ISN'T any. There are only crackpot notions put forth by uneducated, anti-science twits thinking they are smarter than all the scientists and engineers who put astronauts on the moon.
Yes, your selection bias would force you to say so. But his landing was confirmed by the Russians as are all other Apollo landings--unless you're delusional enough to believe that the USSR was buddy-buddy with the US during the depths of the Cold War.
@rentabomb Introvert my ass, that's the way introverts act? Shifty eyes and ashamed? Introverts act soft spoken in a situation like this, if this guy was this pathological, what the fuck was he doing in a rocket?
@MsMaggieOC Just as well they don't sentence people to jail based on their looks :( There are retroreflectors left on the moon from the apollo missions which can reflect back a laser beam from earth. How did they get there ?? Maybe the fairies put it on the moon :D LOL
@rentabomb Actually dear, police do place suspects of crimes based on their mannerisms and body language and most cops have a clue when their suspect is lying, and juries do sentence suspects of crimes to jail based on their mannerisms, their speech and their body language, this is why it's always deemed a mistake to put the accused on the stand. What world do you live in that you don't know that? The reflectors are from us shooting junk on the moon,flesh and blood can't surive cosmic rays.
@MsMaggieOC yeh but you're not a cop and those reflectors are high tech retro reflectors otherwise they wouldn't work. Get your facts straight will you !! And I suppose you believe John Young and Jean Cernan didn't land on the moon either. They must have made that film up in the same studios as Armstrong's LOL And the Apollo 13 mishap was made up in a studio as well was it LOL There is an excellent video done by the mythbusters which make you conspiracists look like the idiots that you are !!
@rentabomb Mythbusters? that's all you got? pathetic. "conspiracists"? what does that mean? do I sound like an idiot? You actually don't have a clue how ignorant you seem.
I'll repeat, they can crash shit on the moon like reflectors, the russians and the us have been doing this for many decades, and if the psychotic delusional moonies places them there in their floating gentle landing jiffy pop craft, they would've been bombarded with a high rate of cosmic rays,ions,protons and electrons.
@rentabomb You probably believe in the infallibility of science and NASA .. how many failed shuttle missions have seen the craft explode and kill all of the crew? In every case NASA knew .. but they failed to act. They knew about the damaged tiles on Columbia's lift-off, but didn't mention anything - the astronauts could have been saved by several repair options or a rescue mission. NASA doesn't care about lives - the families should sue for manslaughter. Probably were 'paid off'.
@Tony07UK Oh well, when the chinese eventually get to the moon we will know the truth won't we ;) Of course you'll say the chinese are part of the conspiracy as well and planted all of the descent stages and rovers as well as making all of the foot prints etc. It's all a big conspiracy against YOU :D LOL
@rentabomb There are plenty of photographs of astronauts' footprints in the dust - were they taken on the moon though for real? Why did Werner von Braun take an expedition to the Arctic a year before the flight to collect meteorite samples .. and later have them passed off as moon rock? Hilarious!
@Tony07UK India's space program photographed tracks of Apollo 15's astronauts in September '09, and Japan's lunar orbiter saw Apollo 15's landing site in 2008. Also, it turns out that the Clementine spacecraft snapped a distant picture of the Apollo 15 landing site as far back as 1994. But those photos can't match the resolution of the new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter's camera!
Any lunar rock samples from Antarctica would show contamination from water and terrestrial micororganisms. Also, recovered lunar meteorites would have been partially burned or melted when entering Earth's atmosphere, AND there would be signs of oxidation.
Lunar astronauts packed samples in boxes that retained vacuum so the samples were pristine. Also, there was no way for lunar SOIL to get to Earth. The astronauts collected lunar soil too, not just rocks.
The Soviets confirmed US manned landings on the moon. They tracked all Apollo missions. Any hoax by the US would mean its Cold War adversary USSR would have trumpeted it around the world.
Sorry, dear, the Russians confirmed the landings. They had their own manned lunar program plans and tested the lunar environment with animal specimens on Zond 5, Sept 1968. Look it up.
@rentabomb They landed tech gear on Mars without humans having to set foot on the surface - and you think it can't be done on the moon. What planet are you living on?
@Tony07UK so they couldn't go the next step and put a man on the moon:D LOL You don't hear the Russians complaining about all of this but then you'd probably claim that the Russians were part of the conspiracy as well :D LOL You need to get a life mate !!
@rentabomb What next step? The Americans 'televised' exactly what they want the world to see and believe. Same as 9/11. The Americans are just for show with hidden political agendas. The Russians aren't bothered about going to the moon and neither are the Chinese - they know that humans cannot survive the radiation from the high-energy particles that make up the Van Allen belts.
James Van Allen himself said that Apollo spacecraft were well-equipped for safe crewed passage through the so-called Belts. Also, the Soviets tracked all manned Apollo missions. In addition, the USSR had its own lunar program and launched unmanned Soyuz-type craft on circumlunar missions 1968-1970. Zond 5 in Sept 1968 included biological specimens that were in no way injured when the ship returned to Earth.
So are you really gonna refute James Van Allen himself?
@rentabomb Shuttle mission astronauts described for the first time that silver light flashes could be observed in their skulls, even with eyes closed and this was on the fringes of the radiation belts. No such reference to this phenomena was ever made on the first Apollo missions. For reasons already explained by others, not one photograph was ever produced showing the stars as viewed from the moon's surface. Apparently stars can only be viewed from earth, through an atmosphere! lol!
@Tony07UK Yes it has been talked about during the apollo missions. Regarding the photography of stars on the moon why don't you watch the mythbusters because they have ripped apart all of those conspiracies and make you look kind of stupid !! Just do a search and you will find it.
@rentabomb yeah i saw that mithbusters ripped many of the believes of moon landing supposed..hoax.. but you cant deny Neil Amstrong doesnt look there as if he really achieved something.. he actually looks very sad..why would he be sad in a place where people sheer him? it looks to me as if he wants to tell something that pains his soul..but cant..will you deny his sadness on camera?
@Vann7 check out the you tube video "Neil Armstrong interview, BBC 1970". The video above must have been a bad hair day for Neal ;) Also Buzz Aldrin is the total opposite type of character to Neil so that also blows your theory away not to mention there were never any objections from the Russians, If anything it's the Russians who should be complaining unless you think they were part of the conspiracy LOL
@rentabomb ummmm no.. all 3 astronaunts were quite nervous .the day of the conference to the world of how it was to be in the moon.you have to be FQing kidding if you believe it was a "bad day" Neil was bouncing in his chair looking to the sides when answering questions.a clear behaviour of someone hiding something. its all in their body language.RUssians didnt protest for sure they were tricked too.just look at the youtube video* No stars visible on Moon* they cant remember stars lol
@Vann7 Yeh the Russians were so dumb they were tricked. The conspiracy plot gets thicker all of the time :D LOL The mythbusters ripped apart the star theory. Sorry but no cigar for you ;)
@Tony07UK said "No such reference to this phenomena was ever made on the first Apollo missions."
Wrong--Aldrin reported such flashes to Mission Control during Apollo 11's trip out to the moon. Read Andrew Chaikin's book 'A Man On the Moon' if you actually want to learn about the Apollo program and the six landings.
The first US robotic rover sent to Mars came 26 years after Apollo 11: Sojourner, in 1997. The Soviets sent unmanned rovers to the moon in the 70s, but the US hadn't developed robotic rovers during that time. The Viking Mars landers were stationary although they did have sampler arms like the lunar Surveyor probes.
He was in a rocket because he was a cool customer, a highly skilled pilot, and was not afraid during trouble. Have you read NOTHING of the US space program? Don't you know that Armstrong commanded Gemini 8? His spacecraft malfunctioned and he had to make quick decisions to get his ship back under control.
Really, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
How did they avoid the Van Allen radiation belt and even more important,how did they stay cool on the moon as it`s sunny side is over 100 C or 240F,hot enough to boil water.
@2000tc88 of course the vabs would kill you if you traverse them in a few days. but certainly not if you do within a few hours which apollo did. the astronaut ev backpack is a life support system which cools the hot regions and heats the colder areas of the suit. the body is kept warm by a fuzzy logic climate control inside the suit. the radiation is kept out by using leaded mylar fabric.
@2000tc88 obviusly you don't understand the concepts of electronics. let me help. fuzzy logic is the closest ever man has achieved to artificial intelligence. the concept was known well in the 1960s. of course, the tech as being used today is far more advanced than the electromechanical plss. kuriositas dot c o m sl 2010 sl 06 sl apolloskylab-a7l-lets-start-with-design dot html.
@2000tc88 "how did they avoid the vabs": you say as if you have personally gone near the vabs! the vabs trap only the solar radiation "charged" particles. the plss suit does both the job of the vab and the atmosphere. and much better! astronauts wouldn't have done evas if it didnt'!
@rentabomb Watched 10 minutes of bullshit in part 1.
Whylie Post flew at 50,000 feet yet oxygen levels too low and thin for him to breathe,So just how did a engine of 1930`s vintage breathe up that high???,
Just show the link for great batteries in 1969,not to mention a great refrigeration unit in 1969.
So they could miniturise a refrigeration unit then on the moon at 240 F but could`nt cool your car good till 20 yrs later here on earth.Yeah Right.
@zambi007i if traveling through that strong of radiation would not hurt you in a few hours then why do the put a huge led vest on me for a 1 second xray at the dentist which by the way is radiation and way weaker?
@zxsk8zx if you ever had/have a dental xray, then the dentist has to see only the jaw and not the whole body. the leaded vest is to minimize the xray spread so there aren't any multiple reflections. the hospital radio technicians wear a vest because they're only minimizing any secondary reflection from their bodies. that xray won't get you cancer or anything or else the medical experts wouldn't have devised such a technology with the government approval.
@echozgus well here is one British voice that does not question it. The great achievement of the century! In a world where just about anyone who can dress himself is referred to as a 'hero', here are the real deal. Its just a shame that the promise of Apollo was never carried through and maybe some at NASA lost their nerve.
@TennisUK11 I think Nasa made bad choices later and after landed on the moon people lost the interest, today U.S. is looking for a cheaper way to return to space but the army can have more budget for wars like Iraq, Afganistan etc. Apollo was a political program to defeat the soviet union. Later the U.S. congress and presidents cut Nasa budget every year and Obama is the least interested in a space program.
If we faked the moon landings, don't you think the soviets would have called us out on it? They more than anyone else would have known the landings were fake.
Just as one piece of proof that 9/11 was an inside job trumps thousands of pieces of manufactured evidence that Osama operating from a hospital bed thousands of miles away did it. The computer generated images of the "ghost" plane that "flew" into the side of the building with no crumpling or reaction on the thin aluminum plane is enough.
One piece of proof that we didn't go trumps thousands of pieces of evidence that we did go. .....understand? The lack of a crater blast, and no dust is enough.
@beastshawnee The missing crater is proof for a hoax? LOL This was totally expected due to the landing trajectory (slightly horizontal), the less power of the engines and the exhaust spreading out in a vacuum very rapidly. You can add to this the compact body of the lunar surface under the thin layer of dust, which was blown away. There was simply not enough power and time to create a crater of more then the measured 4 cm.
Neil Armstrong said that there were lots of concerns. One of his main ones was a fear that the suits climate control system would fail. That would have been ugly. None of these guys, regardless of their dedication, was under the illusion that all would work perfectly. There were huge risks.
He's guilty as hell and a liar! The doors of the evernight are waiting for you to arrive Neil. Eternal confinement in a dimensional prison for traitors to humanity. Rot forever Neil the traitor and liar!
No, he was, and is, a good, honest and decent man. Those are characteristics that will never be used to describe you as long as YOU continue to incite hate and trumpet lies.
@Daddyo930 I do have to give you credit for not disabling ratings and comments, as so many people who share your beliefs do. You don't help your case by posting things like this in 3 unnecessarily small pieces, though. Indeed, none of the 3 parts seem to do anything to either support or debunk your position.
@disorganizedorg I'll give you 3 things that support my assertion. 1. Gamma ray bursts. 2. Galactic cosmic rays. 3. Solar flares. 4. Magnetars. 5. Solar winds. That was actually 5. The energy released in a gamma ray burst in a few seconds or minutes is equal to the suns 10 billion year output. In 1991, we measured a 50 joule GCR particle. Solar flares release 10^27 ergs per second of energy. That's what supports my assertion. Facts and numbers. Neil is still gonna burn in hell though.
@Daddyo930 Those are five things, but I disagree that they support your claims:
(1) These exist. Some of the sources are indeed very powerful, as you've stated. They're also thousands of lightyears away and the inverse-square law works against your claim that they somehow make the Moon missions impossible.
(2) See above. And solar flares are an irregular event; their occurrence was indeed a concern during the lunar landing missions.
(3), (4), (5) -- OK, you're pulling crap out of your ass...
Gamma ray bursts are impressive from billions of lightyears away. But they're not hazardous at that range. Try holding your face one foot and four feet from a hot bed of embers if your don't understand the inverse-square relationships which govern radiated energy. After you stop smouldering, I suspect you'll agree that it was much more than 4x hotter. Maybe even 16x!
@disorganizedorg Ever seen a gamma burst map? Nevermind. Lets try the obvious. NASA insist that apollo never flew during a solar flare because they know how lethal solar flares are. Solar flares knock out power to whole countries. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. From NASA astrophysics. page 87. November 17, 18 and 19th. According to that, apollo 12 was allegedly on the moon during M3 and X5 class solar flares.
@disorganizedorg Whatever Krisdevall. Or should I say Monkeyboysdontknow or the other 20 cock puppet acoounts you have? What a dork. You don't think people are on to your nonsense? Get a life mate!
No, there was ONE minor solar flare event at 235 hours into the mission: Nov 24/69, when Apollo 12 was nine hours and several tens of thousands of km from Earth.
That's pure fact. Your 'facts' have been skewed by you for your personal use.
@MadHighway Excuse me, but the Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971, page 87 says that on 8 separate events, some on the same day, solar proton events happened. All of them caused Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances which means that they hit this planet hence, the moon. Anyone in space past 300 miles would have been fried like a hot dog in a microwave oven.
Apollo 12 mission log: ONE minor solar flare event was recorded at 235 hours into the mission--Nov 24/69--as Yankee Clipper was several tens of thousands of km away and on course for re-entry.
There was no report of a radiation increase in the spacecraft cabin. Also, there were high-orbital unmanned tests of the Apollo CSM--in the Van Allen belts. No radiation spike in the cabin. ALSO, the USSR sent animal specimens safely around the moon on Zond 5.
@MadHighway Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971, page 87 says that on 8 separate events, some on the same day, solar proton events happened. All of them caused Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances which means that they hit this planet hence, the moon. According to the catalog, apollo was allegedly on the moon during an M3 class solar proton event lasting 4 hours. Next day, an X5 class event lasting another 4 hours.
Apollo 12 mission log: ONE minor solar flare event was recorded at 235 hours into the mission--Nov 24/69--as Yankee Clipper was several tens of thousands of km away and on course for re-entry.
There was no report of a radiation increase in the spacecraft cabin. Also, there were high-orbital unmanned tests of the Apollo CSM--in the Van Allen belts. No radiation spike in the cabin. ALSO, the USSR sent animal specimens safely around the moon on Zond 5.
We blew apart your claim that the Sun emits huge amounts of X-rays and gamma radiation. James Van Allen woudl tell you you're nuts--he told Fox TV's claims were false.
You gonna go head-to-head with Mr. VAB himself? He'll shoot you down too. Give it up--you're making shit up and twisting science as well.
What about Apollo 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17? And all the Soviet Zond circumlunar missions with live animal specimens returned safely, not to mention Soviet confirmation of the US manned landings?
@MadHighway Doodlyo thinks that a 'Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance' means protons from a solar flare hit the Earth. I've told him as many others have that SID is caused from soft X-rays traveling the speed of light that hit the Earth's ionosphere and cause radio wave disturbances within 8 minutes of the propagation.
@Tweekerhead 6 × 10^25 joules of energy (about a sixth of the total energy output of the Sun each second), That's just a solar flare. The solar proton events in the Catalogue of LDE flares are an order of magnitude greater. You still seem confused as to the coordinate system used in the catalogue also. Your defense of these solar proton events not hitting the earth was the coordinate system used in the catalog. I believe NASA uses Carrington. You say Stonyhurst. Your wrong.
@Daddyo930 Y-Tube recommends these vids & I see your posts here from a month ago.
It begs the question.Don't you feel stupid when you read these assertions realizing now that you should've widened your research a little?
Closest Gamma Burst recorded was 7.5 bill. light years away.
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What's really incomprehensible is your statement about Mr. Armstrong, if you knew a thing about this great man you'd learn that he earned his pay, no doubt about it.
@Tweekerhead What's really sad is that you still won't tell me where in the catalog the reference to Stonyhurst being used is. You already admitted that NASA uses Carrington for everything else. Why would they use Stonyhurst on one catalog?
@Daddyo930 No what's really fuckin sad is what you said about Mr. Armstrong. he was literally a boyscout who never took as do much a drink let alone did he ever lie about one single thing in his life, that's how fearless the guy is, but you wouldn't know about that.
I thought you had an intellect & imagination but with a statement like that.....All bets are off the table.
You think I busted your balls before..... MMmmmMMmm
@Daddyo930 The CM was made to attenuate α & ß rad' at 100MeV,
1centimeter of lead OR 18g/cm² of water to attenuate gamma rad' by %50.
2.7g/cm² water =1.0g/cm² AL.
Apollo's 7-8g/cm² AL. density rating was equivalent to over 20g/cm² of water.
2g over halving thickness
The trajectory for Apollo11 flew thru' omnidirectional flux protons of 100MeV / 10³particles/cm²-sec. That was sufficiently attenuated by the hull of the CM of 8g/cm², anyone with any knowledge of radiation will not dispute that.
@Daddyo930 RAD is a unit of dosage, MeV is a unit of energy.
14TeV protons is what Hadron Collider uses, if you stuck your hand in the proton flow, you know what would happen?Nothing, that's what I was told by the Hadron guys.
I told you a billion eV /GeV would hardly move a bee, there's no mystery here, stop trying to make one.
~624 EeV (6.24×10²º eV needed to power a single 100 watt light bulb for one second,so 100W =100J=~6.24×10²º eVs
That's 624,000,000,000,000,000,000 eV's to light a bulb.
None of which you understand. And we all saw you supporting Holocaust-denial rhetoric on another page, which shows you to be particularly ugly in your paranoia.
@disorganizedorg with so many inconsistencies in the photo evidence, eg. lack of disturbance of moon dust beneath the lem where there should be, lack of rover tracks where there should be, etc. etc. I can't see how you can say definitively that the apollo missions were genuine. these debates have raged for 40 odd years, it's unlikely that we'll ever know the truth..
@SilverShamrock71 we do know. it never happened. the biggest selling picture in the world would be a shot of the space rover. why does one not exist??
Maybe his body language is that of a man thats not sure if hes going to live through it and might die not lieing -_- id be pretty fucking scared to go to the moon for the first time before anyones ever done it.
Readings from the Glast Burst Monitor make the moon missions scientifically impossible. Galactic cosmic rays? Does anyone know what they are? Does anyone know that the amount of energy measured in some GCR's is equal to the entire output of our sun in its lifetime? Is anyone capable of explaining how anyone can survive 1 second of 1e+10 MeV? That would be 10,000,000,000 million electron volts of energy. You die horribly in about 30 minutes from even one second exposure without electromagnetics.
I DONT CARE WHAT YEAR IT WAS, LOOKING DOWN AT THE FLOOR, IN A STATE OF TOTAL DENIAL/DEPRESSION WHEN SPEAKING OF HEAVINLY BODYS IS EITHER INSANE OR KNOWING HE NEVER IS GOING TO SEE THE MOON. WAKE UP LOOK AT HIS BODY LANGUAGE -ASK YOURSELF IS THIS A MAN THATS HAPPY HES GOING OR WENT TO THE MOON????? if you said yes, then you are a liar and have no clue to how your own human emotions and instincts work.
This video was taken the day before the launch of Apollo 11 he was probably going through a lot of mental turmoil because there was a very good chance they weren't coming back. He even says "it will be our first attempt to land" jebus how would you feel or act knowing you might not live to get back?
You guys calling Armstrong a liar are pathetic assholes that aren't good enough to sniff his shit.
he looks down at the floor, while saying "privlaged to see another heavinly body" WTF , IM NO BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT BUT, THIS COMBINED WITH 1 AND 2 OF GUILT STINKS LIKE A SKUNKS BUTT OF LIES, AND DECIPT.
I went to the site for the "full info" but I'm wondering where / what he did this conference for. I haven't been able to find it anywhere online, can anyone help me out?
no one would be like that if he really was on the moon! thats whyx he is very private because he has to hide his fake life and all his lies he made in his life! what a poor man. shame on him!
@diewahrheitistnochda First: He hadn't been on the Moon yet. Second he is a man of very few words in public (You may call him shy), but he is an excellent testpilot who has flown not only Apollo and Gemini spacecraft, but a lot of the fastest aircraft existing. Including the X-15.
I think Armstrong was never comfortable talking in public. I happen to be friends with his grandnephew who has told me as much. Not to mention, it sounds like a speech that was prepared for him ahead of time, as was standard then. Not to mention, it really was that big of a deal, probably even to him.
He acts sooooooooo excited about taking the ultimate trip of a lifetime. I went to the moon, walked on the surface, survived the deadly radiation......... I'm so happy and proud to have done all of that, look at me......... Lying cunt.
I think Armstrong should address the controversy. If he landed on the moon just come out and say it. I mean he is more shy than an Indian village girl in 300BC! What the hell for. He owes it to the people and to his country. Either ways he will be appreciated. It is only a few words.
Yeah, okay retard. All of your so called "evidence" that it was a hoax can be so easily refuted that it makes you look like a bunch of pathetic fools. You ARE a menace, so do the world a favor and get a brain, moron.
Go on youtube and search "Lunar Legacy" it debunks every moon hoax claim. It will reveal to you that all that "proof" you have been told, is all bullshit. We went to the moon. Simple fact.
Let's launch 3000 tons straight up, 13 times without loss, but we'll fake the part where we land 14 tons in1/6thG on the moon....because that's way harder than the launch.
We should also fake the landings on the Earth faciing side, so that when optical technology evolves to the point where people can see we didn't land, we can make asses out of all the Apollo teams and their familes...and the entire country as a bonus
Apollo deniers. Proof you can train vegetables to speak.
im not even gonna say that he didnt land on the moon but I have 2 admit he did seem very guilty like u knew he was lying about going to the moon its impossible not 2 get that from his manner of speech and physical ques
I see nothing but a charmingly honest and sensitive individual. To imagine those traits combined with his obvious talents - Oh that there were more of such people in the world today!
Today, we seem to be surrounded with people who are so arrogant (in spite of their relative LACK of talent) that they are more than happy to make capital at the expense of far more talented people who served their country so well. Truly depressing!
Did it ever occur to you that he was just NERVOUS??? C'mon the guy is human...he's about to do something nobody has ever done and risk his life in the process.
The only fake i can see around is that fucking shit about Nibiru and 2012 Maya's calendar. Humankind can actually go to Mars if we really want it, but we preffer do as Columbus on his final days, just playing around on the shore of space...
A NASA 1960s idea: Let's launch thousands of tons of gear into orbit, from Earth G, 13 times with no losses....but the part where we set down 14 tons in 1/6 G is way too difficult, so we're gonna fake that and keep it to ourselves.
I suggest we also fake the landings on the side facing Earth, and then when these idiots develop the optical technology to see the sites, we can jump out and say: "Gotcha!"
Moon hoaxers: Proof that vegetables can communicate with eachother.
@timpovikings negelectence of proof that some elements of the apollo mission were blatant lies - proof that.. oh wait its not. unless my purpose is to riducule on on the basis of intellectual materialism. That is what you are.
@timpovikings Japan and NASA have mapped the moon with high resolution photos, much better than Google earth. But for some reason they don't have any pics that show any of the landing sites that are decernable from a moon rock. So you just got Gothcha'ed
If one follows the 'logic' (if that's the right word) propsed in this video then everyone who does a cr"p interview on TV must be hiding some terrible secret. Maybe Armstrong had a bad day or a dose of the scoots.
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Ad Onor del Vero l'uomo non è ancora andato sulla Luna !
Troverete le prove schiaccianti digitando su GOOGLE " WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON "
Se invece preferite continuare a credere che dodici astronauti americani sono stati sulla Luna, fate pure così ! - CONTENTI VOI CONTENTI TUTTI !! ( ...soprattutto quelli che vi hanno sonoramente turlupinati ! - AH ! AH ! AH ! AH ! )
Ciao a tutti dall'Italia e, se potete, cercate almeno di starmi bene !
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ettoremazza7 3 weeks ago
I'd say it's not guilt so much as "I'm probably going to die tomorrow." Have you seen how many spacecrafts have blown up before even leaving the atmosphere?
Parkerdeal 2 months ago
I don't think it matters if someone is a "trained"cop, indeed some private investigators are far more adept at spotting liars and things which don't add up than cops are. Many grandmothers are better at spotting a fake than a kid who just graduated college.
Juries decideon guilt based on evidence. we are the jury of the world and there is enough bullshit going on with naza and lies, misrepresentations and obvious clues that don't add up for us to be the jury and for them to stand accused.
MsMaggieOC 2 months ago
@MsMaggieOC
It's just that you conspiracy nuts have no evidence for a hoax because there ISN'T any. There are only crackpot notions put forth by uneducated, anti-science twits thinking they are smarter than all the scientists and engineers who put astronauts on the moon.
MadHighway 1 month ago
Wowee, the way he speaks, fucking inspiring..... It looks just like a man admitting to his wife for the first time he's been boinking his secretary.
MsMaggieOC 2 months ago
@MsMaggieOC
Yes, your selection bias would force you to say so. But his landing was confirmed by the Russians as are all other Apollo landings--unless you're delusional enough to believe that the USSR was buddy-buddy with the US during the depths of the Cold War.
MadHighway 1 month ago
sold his soul to the devil.he can't live with himself.
144000V 2 months ago
The dude is an introvert you fucking idiots !!
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb Introvert my ass, that's the way introverts act? Shifty eyes and ashamed? Introverts act soft spoken in a situation like this, if this guy was this pathological, what the fuck was he doing in a rocket?
MsMaggieOC 2 months ago
@MsMaggieOC Just as well they don't sentence people to jail based on their looks :( There are retroreflectors left on the moon from the apollo missions which can reflect back a laser beam from earth. How did they get there ?? Maybe the fairies put it on the moon :D LOL
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb Actually dear, police do place suspects of crimes based on their mannerisms and body language and most cops have a clue when their suspect is lying, and juries do sentence suspects of crimes to jail based on their mannerisms, their speech and their body language, this is why it's always deemed a mistake to put the accused on the stand. What world do you live in that you don't know that? The reflectors are from us shooting junk on the moon,flesh and blood can't surive cosmic rays.
MsMaggieOC 2 months ago
@MsMaggieOC yeh but you're not a cop and those reflectors are high tech retro reflectors otherwise they wouldn't work. Get your facts straight will you !! And I suppose you believe John Young and Jean Cernan didn't land on the moon either. They must have made that film up in the same studios as Armstrong's LOL And the Apollo 13 mishap was made up in a studio as well was it LOL There is an excellent video done by the mythbusters which make you conspiracists look like the idiots that you are !!
rentabomb 2 months ago 2
@rentabomb Mythbusters? that's all you got? pathetic. "conspiracists"? what does that mean? do I sound like an idiot? You actually don't have a clue how ignorant you seem.
I'll repeat, they can crash shit on the moon like reflectors, the russians and the us have been doing this for many decades, and if the psychotic delusional moonies places them there in their floating gentle landing jiffy pop craft, they would've been bombarded with a high rate of cosmic rays,ions,protons and electrons.
MsMaggieOC 2 months ago
@MsMaggieOC and all you have is some camera shy dude not behaving the way you want him to. Fuck off mate. I bet you believe in God and miracles !!
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb You probably believe in the infallibility of science and NASA .. how many failed shuttle missions have seen the craft explode and kill all of the crew? In every case NASA knew .. but they failed to act. They knew about the damaged tiles on Columbia's lift-off, but didn't mention anything - the astronauts could have been saved by several repair options or a rescue mission. NASA doesn't care about lives - the families should sue for manslaughter. Probably were 'paid off'.
Tony07UK 2 months ago
@Tony07UK Oh well, when the chinese eventually get to the moon we will know the truth won't we ;) Of course you'll say the chinese are part of the conspiracy as well and planted all of the descent stages and rovers as well as making all of the foot prints etc. It's all a big conspiracy against YOU :D LOL
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb There are plenty of photographs of astronauts' footprints in the dust - were they taken on the moon though for real? Why did Werner von Braun take an expedition to the Arctic a year before the flight to collect meteorite samples .. and later have them passed off as moon rock? Hilarious!
Tony07UK 2 months ago
@Tony07UK India's space program photographed tracks of Apollo 15's astronauts in September '09, and Japan's lunar orbiter saw Apollo 15's landing site in 2008. Also, it turns out that the Clementine spacecraft snapped a distant picture of the Apollo 15 landing site as far back as 1994. But those photos can't match the resolution of the new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter's camera!
rentabomb 2 months ago
@Tony07UK
Any lunar rock samples from Antarctica would show contamination from water and terrestrial micororganisms. Also, recovered lunar meteorites would have been partially burned or melted when entering Earth's atmosphere, AND there would be signs of oxidation.
Lunar astronauts packed samples in boxes that retained vacuum so the samples were pristine. Also, there was no way for lunar SOIL to get to Earth. The astronauts collected lunar soil too, not just rocks.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@MsMaggieOC
The Soviets confirmed US manned landings on the moon. They tracked all Apollo missions. Any hoax by the US would mean its Cold War adversary USSR would have trumpeted it around the world.
Sorry, dear, the Russians confirmed the landings. They had their own manned lunar program plans and tested the lunar environment with animal specimens on Zond 5, Sept 1968. Look it up.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@rentabomb They landed tech gear on Mars without humans having to set foot on the surface - and you think it can't be done on the moon. What planet are you living on?
Tony07UK 2 months ago
@Tony07UK so they couldn't go the next step and put a man on the moon:D LOL You don't hear the Russians complaining about all of this but then you'd probably claim that the Russians were part of the conspiracy as well :D LOL You need to get a life mate !!
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb What next step? The Americans 'televised' exactly what they want the world to see and believe. Same as 9/11. The Americans are just for show with hidden political agendas. The Russians aren't bothered about going to the moon and neither are the Chinese - they know that humans cannot survive the radiation from the high-energy particles that make up the Van Allen belts.
Tony07UK 2 months ago
@Tony07UK
James Van Allen himself said that Apollo spacecraft were well-equipped for safe crewed passage through the so-called Belts. Also, the Soviets tracked all manned Apollo missions. In addition, the USSR had its own lunar program and launched unmanned Soyuz-type craft on circumlunar missions 1968-1970. Zond 5 in Sept 1968 included biological specimens that were in no way injured when the ship returned to Earth.
So are you really gonna refute James Van Allen himself?
MadHighway 1 month ago
@rentabomb Shuttle mission astronauts described for the first time that silver light flashes could be observed in their skulls, even with eyes closed and this was on the fringes of the radiation belts. No such reference to this phenomena was ever made on the first Apollo missions. For reasons already explained by others, not one photograph was ever produced showing the stars as viewed from the moon's surface. Apparently stars can only be viewed from earth, through an atmosphere! lol!
Tony07UK 2 months ago
@Tony07UK Yes it has been talked about during the apollo missions. Regarding the photography of stars on the moon why don't you watch the mythbusters because they have ripped apart all of those conspiracies and make you look kind of stupid !! Just do a search and you will find it.
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb yeah i saw that mithbusters ripped many of the believes of moon landing supposed..hoax.. but you cant deny Neil Amstrong doesnt look there as if he really achieved something.. he actually looks very sad..why would he be sad in a place where people sheer him? it looks to me as if he wants to tell something that pains his soul..but cant..will you deny his sadness on camera?
Vann7 1 month ago
@Vann7 check out the you tube video "Neil Armstrong interview, BBC 1970". The video above must have been a bad hair day for Neal ;) Also Buzz Aldrin is the total opposite type of character to Neil so that also blows your theory away not to mention there were never any objections from the Russians, If anything it's the Russians who should be complaining unless you think they were part of the conspiracy LOL
rentabomb 1 month ago
@rentabomb ummmm no.. all 3 astronaunts were quite nervous .the day of the conference to the world of how it was to be in the moon.you have to be FQing kidding if you believe it was a "bad day" Neil was bouncing in his chair looking to the sides when answering questions.a clear behaviour of someone hiding something. its all in their body language.RUssians didnt protest for sure they were tricked too.just look at the youtube video* No stars visible on Moon* they cant remember stars lol
Vann7 1 month ago
@Vann7 Yeh the Russians were so dumb they were tricked. The conspiracy plot gets thicker all of the time :D LOL The mythbusters ripped apart the star theory. Sorry but no cigar for you ;)
rentabomb 1 month ago
@Tony07UK said "No such reference to this phenomena was ever made on the first Apollo missions."
Wrong--Aldrin reported such flashes to Mission Control during Apollo 11's trip out to the moon. Read Andrew Chaikin's book 'A Man On the Moon' if you actually want to learn about the Apollo program and the six landings.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@Tony07UK
What ERA are you living in?
The first US robotic rover sent to Mars came 26 years after Apollo 11: Sojourner, in 1997. The Soviets sent unmanned rovers to the moon in the 70s, but the US hadn't developed robotic rovers during that time. The Viking Mars landers were stationary although they did have sampler arms like the lunar Surveyor probes.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@MsMaggieOC
He was in a rocket because he was a cool customer, a highly skilled pilot, and was not afraid during trouble. Have you read NOTHING of the US space program? Don't you know that Armstrong commanded Gemini 8? His spacecraft malfunctioned and he had to make quick decisions to get his ship back under control.
Really, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
MadHighway 1 month ago
wow this is retared
Loverboy4102 2 months ago
The only thing this proves is that Armstrong is no public speaker.
bigmarty56 3 months ago 8
How did they avoid the Van Allen radiation belt and even more important,how did they stay cool on the moon as it`s sunny side is over 100 C or 240F,hot enough to boil water.
2000tc88 3 months ago
@2000tc88 of course the vabs would kill you if you traverse them in a few days. but certainly not if you do within a few hours which apollo did. the astronaut ev backpack is a life support system which cools the hot regions and heats the colder areas of the suit. the body is kept warm by a fuzzy logic climate control inside the suit. the radiation is kept out by using leaded mylar fabric.
zambi007i 3 months ago
@zambi007i Fuzzy logic hey!,just what powers this fuzzy logic,an extension cord plugged into the L.E.M.???.
2000tc88 3 months ago
@2000tc88 obviusly you don't understand the concepts of electronics. let me help. fuzzy logic is the closest ever man has achieved to artificial intelligence. the concept was known well in the 1960s. of course, the tech as being used today is far more advanced than the electromechanical plss. kuriositas dot c o m sl 2010 sl 06 sl apolloskylab-a7l-lets-start-with-design dot html.
zambi007i 3 months ago
@2000tc88 "how did they avoid the vabs": you say as if you have personally gone near the vabs! the vabs trap only the solar radiation "charged" particles. the plss suit does both the job of the vab and the atmosphere. and much better! astronauts wouldn't have done evas if it didnt'!
zambi007i 3 months ago
@2000tc88 do a search on youtube for "moon machines space suits" All shall be revealed ;)
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb Watched 10 minutes of bullshit in part 1.
Whylie Post flew at 50,000 feet yet oxygen levels too low and thin for him to breathe,So just how did a engine of 1930`s vintage breathe up that high???,
Just show the link for great batteries in 1969,not to mention a great refrigeration unit in 1969.
So they could miniturise a refrigeration unit then on the moon at 240 F but could`nt cool your car good till 20 yrs later here on earth.Yeah Right.
2000tc88 2 months ago
@zambi007i if traveling through that strong of radiation would not hurt you in a few hours then why do the put a huge led vest on me for a 1 second xray at the dentist which by the way is radiation and way weaker?
zxsk8zx 3 months ago
@zxsk8zx if you ever had/have a dental xray, then the dentist has to see only the jaw and not the whole body. the leaded vest is to minimize the xray spread so there aren't any multiple reflections. the hospital radio technicians wear a vest because they're only minimizing any secondary reflection from their bodies. that xray won't get you cancer or anything or else the medical experts wouldn't have devised such a technology with the government approval.
zambi007i 2 months ago
@zambi007i Oh so if a neuclear power plant blows up we should not have to worry since the radiation will just reflect off our bodies. i get it now!
zxsk8zx 2 months ago
@zxsk8zx you should change your dentist since you've implied he blows up a whole nuclear plant just to get your jawbone visible on an xray film!
zambi007i 2 months ago
@2000tc88 Their space suits were water cooled and part of their back pack was a refrigeration unit !!
rentabomb 2 months ago
@rentabomb Damn good batteries for 1969 then.
2000tc88 2 months ago
If that were I going to the moon, I wouldn't be able to keep a smile off of my face!
yahokobbenyah 3 months ago
@yahokobbenyah
There are many photos of Neil smiling away happily in the lunar module after the first lunar EVA ended on July 20/69.
I think he doesn't like being interviewed. That's allowable, since he never had a minute to himself from 1962 onward.
MadHighway 1 month ago
always british voices questioning apollo program
echozgus 3 months ago
@echozgus well here is one British voice that does not question it. The great achievement of the century! In a world where just about anyone who can dress himself is referred to as a 'hero', here are the real deal. Its just a shame that the promise of Apollo was never carried through and maybe some at NASA lost their nerve.
TennisUK11 3 months ago
@TennisUK11 I think Nasa made bad choices later and after landed on the moon people lost the interest, today U.S. is looking for a cheaper way to return to space but the army can have more budget for wars like Iraq, Afganistan etc. Apollo was a political program to defeat the soviet union. Later the U.S. congress and presidents cut Nasa budget every year and Obama is the least interested in a space program.
echozgus 3 months ago
The poster has no idea about the character of this great man.
This guy earned his pay, anyone who would slander him is a fuckin pussy.
Sorry...I just wish kids would stop putting this garbage on Y-Tube, it doesn't make you look very....smart.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
TRAITOR
LIAR
FAKER
DeadJesus100 4 months ago
my uncle worked in NASA in 1979 - 2003
spotman30 4 months ago
@spotman30
your uncle must be a real flagfucker
DeadJesus100 4 months ago
@DeadJesus100 and your mother must have been a whore
spotman30 4 months ago
@spotman30 lol faggot :)
DeadJesus100 4 months ago
I think that they did actually land....but were soon warned off not too return again...bye are little advanced friends....
TheXXXDB 5 months ago
If we faked the moon landings, don't you think the soviets would have called us out on it? They more than anyone else would have known the landings were fake.
Mykki1003 5 months ago
If one tiny part is fake, then all truth flies out the window.
beastshawnee 5 months ago
Just as one piece of proof that 9/11 was an inside job trumps thousands of pieces of manufactured evidence that Osama operating from a hospital bed thousands of miles away did it. The computer generated images of the "ghost" plane that "flew" into the side of the building with no crumpling or reaction on the thin aluminum plane is enough.
beastshawnee 5 months ago
One piece of proof that we didn't go trumps thousands of pieces of evidence that we did go. .....understand? The lack of a crater blast, and no dust is enough.
beastshawnee 5 months ago
@beastshawnee The missing crater is proof for a hoax? LOL This was totally expected due to the landing trajectory (slightly horizontal), the less power of the engines and the exhaust spreading out in a vacuum very rapidly. You can add to this the compact body of the lunar surface under the thin layer of dust, which was blown away. There was simply not enough power and time to create a crater of more then the measured 4 cm.
CHSarahBs 5 months ago
@CHSarahBs Wow, you shills never stop lying do you? What you just said was a bunch of gobbledy-gook crap.
beastshawnee 5 months ago
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@beastshawnee So you do not understand simple physics? Ok. Your problem, not the problem of reality ;)
CHSarahBs 5 months ago
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@beastshawnee "Wow, you shills never stop lying do you? What you just said was a bunch of gobbledy-gook crap."
If you had a functioning brain it wouldn't sound like "a bunch of gobbledy-gook crap" to you.
KayBeeEee1983 4 months ago
@beastshawnee
Yes, science is always gobbledygook to those uneducated in science.
MadHighway 1 month ago
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@beastshawnee
Yes, science is always gobbledygook to those uneducated in science.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@beastshawnee
Yes, science is always gobbledygook to those uneducated in science. Such as yourself.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@beastshawnee
wtf kind of logic is that??
wafflefaceiron3 5 months ago
@wafflefaceiron3 Just plain, regular logic, calling out the liars.
beastshawnee 5 months ago
@beastshawnee
You clearly don't understand physics and the lunar environment.
MadHighway 1 month ago
Neil Armstrong said that there were lots of concerns. One of his main ones was a fear that the suits climate control system would fail. That would have been ugly. None of these guys, regardless of their dedication, was under the illusion that all would work perfectly. There were huge risks.
rrhynes 5 months ago
NEVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE HAVE I SEEN A MORE HORRIBLE EXAMPLE OF BODY LAGUANGE ........
jonescool1fly 5 months ago
He's guilty as hell and a liar! The doors of the evernight are waiting for you to arrive Neil. Eternal confinement in a dimensional prison for traitors to humanity. Rot forever Neil the traitor and liar!
Daddyo930 6 months ago
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@Daddyo930
'He's guilty as hell and a liar'
No, he was, and is, a good, honest and decent man. Those are characteristics that will never be used to describe you as long as YOU continue to incite hate and trumpet lies.
Monkeyboysdontknow 5 months ago
@Daddyo930 If you believe that, the best thing you can do is STFU and let the afterlife deal with the transgressions you imagine him guilty of.
disorganizedorg 5 months ago
@disorganizedorg Not at all. I plan to keep speaking about this even after the bitch is rotting in hell.
Daddyo930 5 months ago
@Daddyo930 I do have to give you credit for not disabling ratings and comments, as so many people who share your beliefs do. You don't help your case by posting things like this in 3 unnecessarily small pieces, though. Indeed, none of the 3 parts seem to do anything to either support or debunk your position.
disorganizedorg 5 months ago
@disorganizedorg I'll give you 3 things that support my assertion. 1. Gamma ray bursts. 2. Galactic cosmic rays. 3. Solar flares. 4. Magnetars. 5. Solar winds. That was actually 5. The energy released in a gamma ray burst in a few seconds or minutes is equal to the suns 10 billion year output. In 1991, we measured a 50 joule GCR particle. Solar flares release 10^27 ergs per second of energy. That's what supports my assertion. Facts and numbers. Neil is still gonna burn in hell though.
Daddyo930 5 months ago
@Daddyo930 Those are five things, but I disagree that they support your claims:
(1) These exist. Some of the sources are indeed very powerful, as you've stated. They're also thousands of lightyears away and the inverse-square law works against your claim that they somehow make the Moon missions impossible.
(2) See above. And solar flares are an irregular event; their occurrence was indeed a concern during the lunar landing missions.
(3), (4), (5) -- OK, you're pulling crap out of your ass...
disorganizedorg 5 months ago
Gamma ray bursts are impressive from billions of lightyears away. But they're not hazardous at that range. Try holding your face one foot and four feet from a hot bed of embers if your don't understand the inverse-square relationships which govern radiated energy. After you stop smouldering, I suspect you'll agree that it was much more than 4x hotter. Maybe even 16x!
disorganizedorg 5 months ago
@disorganizedorg Ever seen a gamma burst map? Nevermind. Lets try the obvious. NASA insist that apollo never flew during a solar flare because they know how lethal solar flares are. Solar flares knock out power to whole countries. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. From NASA astrophysics. page 87. November 17, 18 and 19th. According to that, apollo 12 was allegedly on the moon during M3 and X5 class solar flares.
Daddyo930 5 months ago
@Daddyo930 I think the folks on physforum-dot-com dealt with that quite well. Hope the new one they tore you is healing nicely. tinyurl: 3gx7lme
disorganizedorg 5 months ago
@disorganizedorg Whatever Krisdevall. Or should I say Monkeyboysdontknow or the other 20 cock puppet acoounts you have? What a dork. You don't think people are on to your nonsense? Get a life mate!
Daddyo930 5 months ago
@Daddyo930
No, there was ONE minor solar flare event at 235 hours into the mission: Nov 24/69, when Apollo 12 was nine hours and several tens of thousands of km from Earth.
That's pure fact. Your 'facts' have been skewed by you for your personal use.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@MadHighway Excuse me, but the Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971, page 87 says that on 8 separate events, some on the same day, solar proton events happened. All of them caused Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances which means that they hit this planet hence, the moon. Anyone in space past 300 miles would have been fried like a hot dog in a microwave oven.
Daddyo930 1 month ago
@Daddyo930
Excuse me, but your understanding of solar events and radiation shielding is fucked.
Simply put, you see what you want to see, and even more simply put: science doesn't work that way.
Stop twisting science to suit your delusion, and get yourself into a proper university for a four-year program heavy on the sciences.
You don't know what you're talking about. You think you do, but you've got it all wrong.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@Daddyo930
Apollo 12 mission log: ONE minor solar flare event was recorded at 235 hours into the mission--Nov 24/69--as Yankee Clipper was several tens of thousands of km away and on course for re-entry.
There was no report of a radiation increase in the spacecraft cabin. Also, there were high-orbital unmanned tests of the Apollo CSM--in the Van Allen belts. No radiation spike in the cabin. ALSO, the USSR sent animal specimens safely around the moon on Zond 5.
Drop it, man.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@MadHighway Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971, page 87 says that on 8 separate events, some on the same day, solar proton events happened. All of them caused Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances which means that they hit this planet hence, the moon. According to the catalog, apollo was allegedly on the moon during an M3 class solar proton event lasting 4 hours. Next day, an X5 class event lasting another 4 hours.
Daddyo930 1 month ago
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@Daddyo930
Apollo 12 mission log: ONE minor solar flare event was recorded at 235 hours into the mission--Nov 24/69--as Yankee Clipper was several tens of thousands of km away and on course for re-entry.
There was no report of a radiation increase in the spacecraft cabin. Also, there were high-orbital unmanned tests of the Apollo CSM--in the Van Allen belts. No radiation spike in the cabin. ALSO, the USSR sent animal specimens safely around the moon on Zond 5.
Again, drop it, man.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@Daddyo930
We blew apart your claim that the Sun emits huge amounts of X-rays and gamma radiation. James Van Allen woudl tell you you're nuts--he told Fox TV's claims were false.
You gonna go head-to-head with Mr. VAB himself? He'll shoot you down too. Give it up--you're making shit up and twisting science as well.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@Daddyo930
What about Apollo 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17? And all the Soviet Zond circumlunar missions with live animal specimens returned safely, not to mention Soviet confirmation of the US manned landings?
MadHighway 1 month ago
@MadHighway Doodlyo thinks that a 'Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance' means protons from a solar flare hit the Earth. I've told him as many others have that SID is caused from soft X-rays traveling the speed of light that hit the Earth's ionosphere and cause radio wave disturbances within 8 minutes of the propagation.
8 minutes....And he hasn't figured it out yet.
Sssshhhh he thinks he's a genius.
Tweekerhead 1 month ago
@Daddyo930 Without guessing , bluffing or assuming can you tell us how much w/m² those X5 flares generate here in the Earth/Moon system?
Can you tell us what effect that would have on the CM of Apollo?
None of this 'tin-can' shit please....Apollo engineers didn't make tin-cans.
Remember to figure in the inverse square law you hate so much......Dork.
Tweekerhead 1 month ago
@Tweekerhead 6 × 10^25 joules of energy (about a sixth of the total energy output of the Sun each second), That's just a solar flare. The solar proton events in the Catalogue of LDE flares are an order of magnitude greater. You still seem confused as to the coordinate system used in the catalogue also. Your defense of these solar proton events not hitting the earth was the coordinate system used in the catalog. I believe NASA uses Carrington. You say Stonyhurst. Your wrong.
Daddyo930 1 month ago
@Daddyo930 That's the intrinsic release, what is detected on Earth from X5 flare? It's not 6x10^25 joules.
You're still very confused about what is released and what is detected with any natural energy progenitor.
Again with the LDE catalog, are you still insecure about your assumption?
What algorithm did you use? LOL
My 'defense'? That's laughable.
Every flare, SPE & LDE from 69-72' has been documented, it is an undisputed fact, one flare hit Earth between 69-72'
1st.week of Aug.72'
Tweekerhead 1 month ago
@Tweekerhead So what coordinate system did NASA use in the catalog?
Daddyo930 1 month ago
@Daddyo930 Every flare,SPE&LDE from 69-72' has been documented, it is an undisputed fact, one flare hit Earth between 69-72'
1st.week of Aug.72'
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It wasn't compiled by NASA, it was compiled from several different observatories.
Please stop bluffing about knowing anything related astrophysics or Carrington heliographics, it's starting to get embarrassing for you.
Here's a test:
Which one of these is a Carrington & which is a Stonyhurst coordinate?
A. N14 E33/ 075
B. P90 φ180 Φ75
Dunce
Tweekerhead 1 month ago
@Daddyo930 Y-Tube recommends these vids & I see your posts here from a month ago.
It begs the question.Don't you feel stupid when you read these assertions realizing now that you should've widened your research a little?
Closest Gamma Burst recorded was 7.5 bill. light years away.
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What's really incomprehensible is your statement about Mr. Armstrong, if you knew a thing about this great man you'd learn that he earned his pay, no doubt about it.
Only a shit-kicker would say that,I'd remove it.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead What's really sad is that you still won't tell me where in the catalog the reference to Stonyhurst being used is. You already admitted that NASA uses Carrington for everything else. Why would they use Stonyhurst on one catalog?
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 No what's really fuckin sad is what you said about Mr. Armstrong. he was literally a boyscout who never took as do much a drink let alone did he ever lie about one single thing in his life, that's how fearless the guy is, but you wouldn't know about that.
I thought you had an intellect & imagination but with a statement like that.....All bets are off the table.
You think I busted your balls before..... MMmmmMMmm
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead If 1 percent of the solar constant were ionizing radiation, that would
be 41840 rads per minute. If it's 0,1 that would be 4184 rads per minute.
At 0.01 that would be 418.4 rads per minute. At 0.001 that would be 41.8
rads per minute. At 0.0001 that would be 4.18 rads per minute. Now, what
percentage of the solar constant is ionizing radiation? 1 rad = 62.4 x
106 MeV. The 20 g/cm attenuating hull of apollo couldn't stop that. The catalog question please?
Daddyo930 4 months ago
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@Daddyo930 The CM was made to attenuate α & ß rad' at 100MeV,
1centimeter of lead OR 18g/cm² of water to attenuate gamma rad' by %50.
2.7g/cm² water =1.0g/cm² AL.
Apollo's 7-8g/cm² AL. density rating was equivalent to over 20g/cm² of water.
2g over halving thickness
The trajectory for Apollo11 flew thru' omnidirectional flux protons of 100MeV / 10³particles/cm²-sec. That was sufficiently attenuated by the hull of the CM of 8g/cm², anyone with any knowledge of radiation will not dispute that.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Do you even know what you're talking about here? NO it's obvious..This is Ozark math.
Do you even know what 100MeV particle is? Go back to school man, 1GeV will move a 90mg honey bee 1.815x10¯¹º or the width of a carbon atom!!
Stupid conversion, my pleasure.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead 1 rad = 62.4 x 106 MeV. 6614 MeV = 1 rad. Is this correct or not?
Daddyo930 4 months ago
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@Daddyo930 RAD is a unit of dosage, MeV is a unit of energy.
14TeV protons is what Hadron Collider uses, if you stuck your hand in the proton flow, you know what would happen?Nothing, that's what I was told by the Hadron guys.
I told you a billion eV /GeV would hardly move a bee, there's no mystery here, stop trying to make one.
~624 EeV (6.24×10²º eV needed to power a single 100 watt light bulb for one second,so 100W =100J=~6.24×10²º eVs
That's 624,000,000,000,000,000,000 eV's to light a bulb.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Daddyo930
None of which you understand. And we all saw you supporting Holocaust-denial rhetoric on another page, which shows you to be particularly ugly in your paranoia.
Stop abusing science and gon learn it.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@disorganizedorg armstrong would not swear on the bible that he went to the moon.
watch?v=ymlwb76ZeiI
kernzyp 5 months ago
@Daddyo930
Yeah, we saw your Holocaust-denial posts on another page. Sell your ugly, anti-human and anti-science paranoia somewhere else.
MadHighway 1 month ago
filmed on the 2001 movie set at mgm studios, borehamwood, london, england..
SilverShamrock71 6 months ago
@SilverShamrock71 Because Kubrick was such a darling of the elite. Got it.
disorganizedorg 5 months ago
@disorganizedorg with so many inconsistencies in the photo evidence, eg. lack of disturbance of moon dust beneath the lem where there should be, lack of rover tracks where there should be, etc. etc. I can't see how you can say definitively that the apollo missions were genuine. these debates have raged for 40 odd years, it's unlikely that we'll ever know the truth..
SilverShamrock71 5 months ago
@SilverShamrock71 we do know. it never happened. the biggest selling picture in the world would be a shot of the space rover. why does one not exist??
watch?v=ymlwb76ZeiI
kernzyp 5 months ago
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" The moon missions were faked in a studio. Here's a link to some of the evidence.
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Cosmicmoron 6 months ago
Geez dude, cheer up.
videostoyou 6 months ago
Maybe his body language is that of a man thats not sure if hes going to live through it and might die not lieing -_- id be pretty fucking scared to go to the moon for the first time before anyones ever done it.
nickeyx2 6 months ago
@nickeyx2 that's not fear, it's apathy and resignment.. at least the guy had a conscience...
SilverShamrock71 6 months ago
@nickeyx2 The weird thing is his body language is almost exaclty the same in the press conferenece once he (supposedly) gets back.
niverent 6 months ago
Readings from the Glast Burst Monitor make the moon missions scientifically impossible. Galactic cosmic rays? Does anyone know what they are? Does anyone know that the amount of energy measured in some GCR's is equal to the entire output of our sun in its lifetime? Is anyone capable of explaining how anyone can survive 1 second of 1e+10 MeV? That would be 10,000,000,000 million electron volts of energy. You die horribly in about 30 minutes from even one second exposure without electromagnetics.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
we went to the moon. theres fucking pictures of the craft still on it.
RUDY2295 6 months ago
@RUDY2295 You mean the pictures with the little white dots on it?
ajaxrobinson 6 months ago
@RUDY2295 dude it was hoaxed they could do that shit in 69
mutchie6g 6 months ago
HA HA HA HA! HE LOOKS AND SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE FIBBING BOY; MAYBE 8 YEARS OLD!
EGMAG 7 months ago
I DONT CARE WHAT YEAR IT WAS, LOOKING DOWN AT THE FLOOR, IN A STATE OF TOTAL DENIAL/DEPRESSION WHEN SPEAKING OF HEAVINLY BODYS IS EITHER INSANE OR KNOWING HE NEVER IS GOING TO SEE THE MOON. WAKE UP LOOK AT HIS BODY LANGUAGE -ASK YOURSELF IS THIS A MAN THATS HAPPY HES GOING OR WENT TO THE MOON????? if you said yes, then you are a liar and have no clue to how your own human emotions and instincts work.
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GUARDIANtrooper 7 months ago
@jonescool1fly
This video was taken the day before the launch of Apollo 11 he was probably going through a lot of mental turmoil because there was a very good chance they weren't coming back. He even says "it will be our first attempt to land" jebus how would you feel or act knowing you might not live to get back?
You guys calling Armstrong a liar are pathetic assholes that aren't good enough to sniff his shit.
Blahblobify 6 months ago
@jonescool1fly Yeah, and the Earth is flat, too!! Get a life!!
CounterCultureLives 6 months ago
he looks down at the floor, while saying "privlaged to see another heavinly body" WTF , IM NO BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT BUT, THIS COMBINED WITH 1 AND 2 OF GUILT STINKS LIKE A SKUNKS BUTT OF LIES, AND DECIPT.
jonescool1fly 7 months ago
I went to the site for the "full info" but I'm wondering where / what he did this conference for. I haven't been able to find it anywhere online, can anyone help me out?
FloodingJersey 7 months ago
no one would be like that if he really was on the moon! thats whyx he is very private because he has to hide his fake life and all his lies he made in his life! what a poor man. shame on him!
diewahrheitistnochda 7 months ago
@diewahrheitistnochda First: He hadn't been on the Moon yet. Second he is a man of very few words in public (You may call him shy), but he is an excellent testpilot who has flown not only Apollo and Gemini spacecraft, but a lot of the fastest aircraft existing. Including the X-15.
YDDES 7 months ago
@diewahrheitistnochda THank you well spoken. There are inteligent people after al.
servantofvaisnavas 6 months ago
I think Armstrong was never comfortable talking in public. I happen to be friends with his grandnephew who has told me as much. Not to mention, it sounds like a speech that was prepared for him ahead of time, as was standard then. Not to mention, it really was that big of a deal, probably even to him.
jetfreak4 7 months ago
His body language is of lier. He couldn't be more discomfortable and unhappy to be faced by such questions.
Reasonable99pct 7 months ago
Just watch how he looks down as if to try to think and be postive about (the lies) hes being forced to tell.
jonescool1fly 7 months ago
After watching this 5 times I have never seen so depressed about going to the moon? The guy is talking like someone just raped and killed his mother.
jonescool1fly 7 months ago
BODY LANGUAGE, even the most basic paerson can see the guilt of lies, now complie all of his speeches.
jonescool1fly 7 months ago
Oh I see now. When people lie, they tend to look downwards is what I've always heard.
superghostwheel 7 months ago
wow, why he looks so depressed? i think guilt
chopin999 7 months ago
He acts sooooooooo excited about taking the ultimate trip of a lifetime. I went to the moon, walked on the surface, survived the deadly radiation......... I'm so happy and proud to have done all of that, look at me......... Lying cunt.
Chev4206 8 months ago
I think Armstrong should address the controversy. If he landed on the moon just come out and say it. I mean he is more shy than an Indian village girl in 300BC! What the hell for. He owes it to the people and to his country. Either ways he will be appreciated. It is only a few words.
safronfield 8 months ago
@safronfield He's said he landed on the moon plenty. What are you talking about? He's done interviews.
monokhem 8 months ago
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obey the official line! death to those who trust their own instincts! obey the system.....
davegleeson85 9 months ago
Moon-hoaxers should all be round up and put in a gas chamber. They are a complete menace to our society.
bennyvega100 9 months ago
@bennyvega100 wow that is one of the worst statements I've read. And it tells me just how afraid you are that this might be all true.
tubedweeb 9 months ago
@tubedweeb
Yeah, okay retard. All of your so called "evidence" that it was a hoax can be so easily refuted that it makes you look like a bunch of pathetic fools. You ARE a menace, so do the world a favor and get a brain, moron.
bennyvega100 9 months ago
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Go on youtube and search "Lunar Legacy" it debunks every moon hoax claim. It will reveal to you that all that "proof" you have been told, is all bullshit. We went to the moon. Simple fact.
audioblood87 9 months ago
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guilty as sin.
MrToiletface 9 months ago
Let's launch 3000 tons straight up, 13 times without loss, but we'll fake the part where we land 14 tons in1/6thG on the moon....because that's way harder than the launch.
We should also fake the landings on the Earth faciing side, so that when optical technology evolves to the point where people can see we didn't land, we can make asses out of all the Apollo teams and their familes...and the entire country as a bonus
Apollo deniers. Proof you can train vegetables to speak.
timpovikings 9 months ago
I see ZERO evidence of "guilt" on his face in this video. I guess people see whatever they WANT to see.
normbreyfogle 9 months ago
im not even gonna say that he didnt land on the moon but I have 2 admit he did seem very guilty like u knew he was lying about going to the moon its impossible not 2 get that from his manner of speech and physical ques
hwaki1 10 months ago
@hwaki1 Really??!
I see nothing but a charmingly honest and sensitive individual. To imagine those traits combined with his obvious talents - Oh that there were more of such people in the world today!
Today, we seem to be surrounded with people who are so arrogant (in spite of their relative LACK of talent) that they are more than happy to make capital at the expense of far more talented people who served their country so well. Truly depressing!
eventcone 9 months ago 13
@hwaki1
Man, you're retarded.
Did it ever occur to you that he was just NERVOUS??? C'mon the guy is human...he's about to do something nobody has ever done and risk his life in the process.
bennyvega100 9 months ago
hes not a public speaker, just some scientist. dude was probly shitting his pants over the thought of going to the moon. i know i would
tzDub92 10 months ago
The only fake i can see around is that fucking shit about Nibiru and 2012 Maya's calendar. Humankind can actually go to Mars if we really want it, but we preffer do as Columbus on his final days, just playing around on the shore of space...
See you on december 22th 2012 !
rottencranberry 10 months ago
A NASA 1960s idea: Let's launch thousands of tons of gear into orbit, from Earth G, 13 times with no losses....but the part where we set down 14 tons in 1/6 G is way too difficult, so we're gonna fake that and keep it to ourselves.
I suggest we also fake the landings on the side facing Earth, and then when these idiots develop the optical technology to see the sites, we can jump out and say: "Gotcha!"
Moon hoaxers: Proof that vegetables can communicate with eachother.
timpovikings 10 months ago 24
@timpovikings negelectence of proof that some elements of the apollo mission were blatant lies - proof that.. oh wait its not. unless my purpose is to riducule on on the basis of intellectual materialism. That is what you are.
notrwhitecrow 9 months ago
@timpovikings
Moon hoaxers are also proof that retards can devise conspiracy theories
bennyvega100 9 months ago
@timpovikings Japan and NASA have mapped the moon with high resolution photos, much better than Google earth. But for some reason they don't have any pics that show any of the landing sites that are decernable from a moon rock. So you just got Gothcha'ed
orange70383 8 months ago
@orange70383
The LRO can discern ascent stages, footprints and experiments, yes?
timpovikings 8 months ago