@pintoresmadrid madrid es de castilla la nueva... es decir... la mancha xD otra cosa es que con la transición le hicieran una comunidad para ella sola
At the top of the pipe, if you add several mini size of this Concentrated Solar Power disks /watch?v=rRYfsAExkUw, it can initiate the upward drift of air flow.
It seems to me these things would have to be absolutely massive if they were to deliver realistic amounts of energy. This 200 m tower only delivered 60 kw, which is a pittance.
I don´t see where you want to build them in developed countries. If in the desert, you are back to the same problem that desertec has, namely distance and transportation.
Well, why don´t you explain your simple solutions to engineers world-wide. Because power plants are always built as close to consumers as possible. Everybody except you seems to see the problem.
It's great to see mega projects like these. I wonder if 3 medium sized (Smaller Towers) are equal to or easier to do than such a huge tower. I also urge people creating their own personal projects. Google "How to produce solar energy" You will find guides to help you do your own.
@Charlesincharge42 There is something I don't get with the Floating Solar Chimney. Always when power is produced over a turbine there is a pressure drop. EnviroMission calculates with a drop at about1500 Pa. This means that there will be a net pressure on the canvass of about 150 kg/m2. No fabric can withstand this. I can't see that the floating solar chimney is realistic.
@Siddis33 Sounds like a great question for the engineer that came up with the idea.
Although I did find the FAQ with the following answer:
"The fabrics for the FSC’s lifting tubes are already used in airship, balloon or outdoor tent industry. Very strong fabrics, reinforced with composite fibbers, for the FSC’s supporting tubes are already used in the construction of many inflated structures with higher overpressures, in sailing etc."
This is fantastic! I bet you could also grow crops of some kind under the plastic. It would make for a more efficient use of the space. I hope to see these used in the real world to supply electricity.
"This solar chimney in Spain has demonstrated that it will be possible in the future to compete on a dollar for dollar basis with virtually any other form of power generation - with that 1 unbeatable advantage: that its got an inexhaustable source of free, original, energy in the Sun."
I haven't read all the comments on this - and a back of cigarette packet calculation tells you in an instant why the world isn't covered in these things.
Take the UK. UK off peak demand is 50,000mw or thereabouts. To produce that you would need just over 83 million of these things, covering 365 million hectares. The UK is 24.3 million hectares, so would have to invade several other larger neighbours just to cover in plastic.
This design could be incorperated into the houses of parliament and other political buildings to harness the enormous amounts of hot air generated within.
The version of this at green tower (dot) net incorporates a greenhouse and water at the center 1/3 of the area for heat retention, the benefits are enormous.
1st of all in such a video, racist comments come from people with shit in their minds.2nd you have to consider what humanity achieved until today.Nothing is impossible, we are talking about our independence of fossil fuelsin order to avoid the temperature rising. WITH SIMPLE WORDS TO SURVIVE! What you cant understand? What is so strange? Build in deserts systems like that and provide clean energy to everyone.Technology exists!Stop producing weapons and you will see that also money exists
Great video...I converted my home to a net-zero solar powered home that uses no oil or gas...I made a video about it called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....
i´m portuguese and white but i know others that are portuguese but decendent from other ethnic grups, that tus not make them less portuguese by the law, i think the same happens to spain, and i hope so, it`s the mark off a countrys great history, love spain.
They need to put that think up on top of a flat knoll to help the air find the chimney, and then get a turbine with more blades and stator blades...
They need to do something because 30kWe is enough to power to light maybe 7 homes; yet look how much land it takes up... Heck, one stirling dish can do that...not to mention that $1 million in 1983 is less than half of what it is now.
A solar chimney seems way infeasible, but it's fascinating nonetheless.
@miks8 No, I looked it up. In US dollars (the unit they cited) it's about a factor of 2 (which makes this less pessimistic, but still pretty bad). There was only one turbine, though it could be replaced with a more optimal turbine, I think.
You know, a Greek person came up with the idea of using a chimney made of conjoined envelopes filled with lifting gas, making a cost-effective "floating" chimney. If it were me, I'd bank on that idea.
and yes, there's gypsies in Spain, so there is in France, and Italy, and Ukraine and Germany, and Austria and Russia...
Gypsies are Romanian, they move from place to place, there's quite a lot in Spain, but we don't really take "gypsy" as an insult, gypsies are people with a very harsh lifestyle, some are dishonest, but in Spain we embrace them as any other Ethnic group, and pull your head out of your ass.
Actually they are from India, you stupidfuck!!! But But they moved mostly to spain, that piece of shit country where you live in!!!
"but in spain we embrace them as any other etnic group"
Is that true? Oh certainly not! You are dumb racist, that a "gyppo" lifestyle, allways moving to other places, stealing people, killing them, why? Because dumb gypsys still think the way people used to think 200 hundred years ago!!!
no, they are not from India, the culture itself originated there, but the modern gypsies are Romani usually, most of them speak Roma, the Gypsies used to live Sindh, Rajasthan and Punjab, but they migrated out of there in the11-12 century, and since then most of them have lived in Romania. they have been almost 10 centuries in Romania, therefore Romanian!! in spain hey are about 1 percent of the population, in Romania they are more than 10 percent, don't talk about shit you don't know.
You could farm or graze under the canopy, or harvest feed grass for animals. That could also be left as an oxygen making green space.
Also cement is one of the most recycled products on earth. Using old streets for new power sounds great. ... I wonder if a dark tinted surface would draw better?
So we should stop building houses and basically stop manufacturing anything? I'd rather a power plant like that built that generates clean renewable energy rather than a coal fired power plant that emits harmful toxins and carbon. Think about it.
It`s wrong. Your calculculation is based on the cost of the non-renewable energy, which is the cost of the coal or the oil + mainteinance of the power plant. This tower`s TOTAL cost is about $ 1.000.000 to construct, but after constructed it`s almost for free the cost of the energy (compared whit oil or coal). To make your calculation, you have to spread the tower`s cost among 10 or 15 years, with the generation of the average energy produced(15-30 kW). I hope have solved your dude.
also, at the top of the tower, if there was a right-angle swiveling elbow for the exhaust to be released in the direction of the wind, the wind will create a vacuum that will pull the air from tube as well
if they put the canopy over a black-top asphalt parking lot,
the air would be heated much more quickly - also it would
work longer at night with all of the heat absorption during
the day, anything that is the color black will always absorb
more heat from the sun- better yet would be a large black metal egg-carton underneath the canopy which would yield more heated sq footage for the same canopy size
I heard these solar updraft towers are less than 1% efficient! Compare that to the SunCatcherTM unit from StirlingEnergySystems which is a CSP dish collector that can get 25 KW with an area of about 80m2. The energy conversion principles at work here are the greenhouse effect and the chimney effect.... which require huge areas. I'd stick with the Stirling Cycle and concentrated solar. Where else can you get 31.25% solar to electrical efficiencies? Good Idea.... if you are a hippy.
a peak perfomance of 60kW and a sustained one of 30kw? this is the power output of a small car at an investment of 1.000.000 US$. This is a losing proposition then and it will be. You cannot trick physics. The numbers dont bear that out. A thinly spread source of energy will always require huge collective mechanisms.
With peak oil having arrived and peak carbon in general looming around the corner I just don't see any serious alternative to nuclear if we dont want to freeze in the dark.
THIS!!!!! in 1964 13 year old Elisa Johnson was raped and murdered in North Carolina, her body was found with multiple stab wounds, and now that you've read this, every night she will come to your house and hang from your closet with glowing red eyes, the only way to stop this is to post this to 10 other videos. SORRY I DIDNT WANT HER IN MY ROOM
truthiness79: that's not the idea with this particular tower. This is to drive heat up the chimney. I'm sure you've seen the other excellent projects from Spain regarding using parabolic mirrors to drive a turbine at the top of a tower. This example is first project they worked on.
With a build cost of US$1 million, this is a great solution.
So then the air is drawn under the canopy by the force of air being drawn up the tower, and that force is being generated by the heat from the sun being trapped inside the tower?
The air is being heated in canopy (greenhouse). And as we all know heated air is lighter then cool air so that it will tend to go up. And the only way to escape is tower, and in tower are generators.
As far as I can tell, though, the canopy is completely level. If this is the case, then there is no reason why heated air would escape up the tower more than it would simply escape over the edge of the canopy. If the canopy is sealed to the ground, then how does air get in in the first place?
... maybe they just keep canopy closed for some time untill its warm enough and then open the tower and open some ways to canopy itself so that heat air can escape....
But in order for that to do any good, the canopy would still have to be higher around the base of the tower than around its outer edge or the rising air would simply escape over the edge of the canopy, unless the air inside the tower is also being heated, and therefore is rising, causing a vacuum which draws in the air from under the canopy, which, being heated, contributes to the lift effect.
The air under the canopy is heated. Some of it enters the tower. When in the tower, it will lift and suck in more hot air into the tower. When starting, some hot air will escape att the outer edge, but as opposed to the air in the tower, it won't keep sucking out more hot air. When the process is up and running, most of the hot air will get sucked into the tower.
Is there any reason why heat from the sun's light would not also get, to some extent, trapped inside the tower, further raising the temperature of the air there and contributing the the vacuum effect drawing in the air under the canopy?
It's about capturing convection currents. The air keeps moving. The only time it would stop is if the air cools before it reaches the top in which case the convection cycles within the tube.
I would have thought that the fan blades would be better off being higher up, so that a Bernoulli Effect would cause the velocity of the air to be higher than down low where it seemed they were in a wide part of the chimney. $1M for 30Kw? Not ready for prime-time that's for sure. Are they counting what real estate to put many of these on would cost? And isn't there a PROBLEM with vegetation growing up underneath? Block the air-flow, and grow up through the 0.1mm-thick plastic? D'oh!
Ya keep it up!!! Then America will bomb you. Their is no such thing as free energy. Can you all not see that. This technologie and others are accient but are never put into production, why??? like I said, no such thing as free energy. Please put this into mass production and you shall see the outcome. I challenge you Spain. Do it.... The world is the Bitch of the u.s.a.
In some regions, like the US buildings over a certain height have to be painted for visibility. Like this tower for example is white and red, most probably for that reason. It's so smaller aircraft don't fly into them.
Wind generators are against building codes in many places. They are too noisy, I guess. Like these 2fast2furious faggots that race nobody in their little 4bangers, but no one stops them! w t f
Because black plastic would absorb the light (heat) as opposed to just letting it through to heat the ground (which through radiant heat heats the air) and air which then rises due to the properties of physics, and then moves through the tower which turns the turbine generator.
I could imagine an array of 10 acre farms with enough room between them to allow adequate ingress of air, each farm self sustaining with irrigation, lighting, equipment all powered by the tower.
Now what if the tower itself was an electrostatic device, charging not only from the turbine but also the air's electrical movement (like clouds/lightning) ...
Or I could go fuck myself like one of you is undoubtedly going to ask me to do.
The plantations beneath the sheeting would impede the airflow making the the power plant less efficient. Might be good for growing cannabis as a home project though though, that chimney would keep the smell from the neighbours, so no-one would suspect anything.
@locouk While your imagination is great, it doesn't change the fact that you have been uprated by greedy, narrow minded fools who wish to continue their own power. Even if what you said was true, it would be a fraction of the cost to degrain the soil so that this wouldn't be a problem. Stop being a Talmud lover, and open your mind to different races being able to evolve independently, and for true human diversity to flourish on this planet, not your dreams of Jewish supremacy.
I know, that's why i only suggest it to a nice lad like yourself. Next try to suck yourself to after you fucked yourself but be sure to swallow because recent studies showed it's good for your health! Whishing you the best, Fatjohn1408.
If they do have winds of up to 150 km/h most of the year they can easily put a wind generator. For $ 1000 000 you can get way more than 30kw. The experiment look interesting but its just that, an experiment.
Yes, a million buck. That's surprising because it's actually considered economical-- try looking at relative power costs instead of being an idiot.
And looking at the big picture, it's a gigantic experiment that has proven that it is feasible to construct more such plants with greater efficiency elsewhere.
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It is you who are the idiot, you could plant rape on the same land and get more from burning the oil than 30Kw. The experiment has shown that this is an inefficient waste of resources and always will be.
As well as economic, I wonder about it's possibility in arid hot lands where food is scarce. Why couldn't that space exist to feed locals as a self sustaining farm?
Fuente la Lancha is a VERY rural area, in fact the output probably supplied much if not all of the power needed for the entire village. A million dollars for a long term reliable source of free zero emission energy with low to no maintainance costs for 10 years plus, conducting a vital experiment in solar thermal air induction designs for producing larger ones with higher output. Seem like you ignore the bigger picture and point. Quit being a douche, we don't have to burn everything for energy.
and then you woke up and realized that ur the thief and your gay grandpa got beat-up in spain becasue they found out hy is Icelandic,gay and you are a pussy with a frozen brain cuz of your shitty weather.
I'm no thief.. I don't even know how it is to be poor.. I mean.. I wouldn't just rob everyone just to get an what.. Ipod.. PSP.. what would I do with it.. sell it?? no one would even buy it from you so these thiefs in spain are very stupid.. and maybe they are just nuts because the heat makes you go crazy.. I couldn't live in that heat for less than month.. it would make me go crazy.. and rob like everyone else.. but Iceland is just.. home. always rather cold..
humanice2: please buy a heater and start warming up your frozen small brain. once you notice its getting too hot; put the heater even closer til you burn to death.
humanice is right. In Spain there are a lot of robbers. Mostly , they are inmigrants from the USA, that go to Spain lookin for a better live, but because they don't want to work honestly a lot of them prefer rob to erveryone. I expect the spanish goverment get all of then into jail. In my country, Germany, know how to deal with than kind of people.
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in Spain.. its hot.. and so heavy air that you can barly breath.. and I don't understand how people at Spain can live.. it sucks so bad there..
even at 2 at night, there was just families walking around at night with their 3-5 years old children.. I mean.. is that even human?
and even there's a lot of robbery going on there.. Spain just makes me sick.. if I would buy a PS3, and walk with the PS3 box to my house there, how many chances would it be that I would get robbed? I'd say about 98%
spain is beutiful, is the best country for to live because in spain the food,the people, the cities, the culture... are very marvellous however the life in other countries as USA are vey bad
dude.. people!? ALL of the people there are theifs and steal too much of stuff.. my grandfather was there for 1 week, and his car almost got robbed, and a broken window by some1 trying to steal it and some girl tried to pull away his bag and run away, THAT IS NOT HUMAN, in Iceland, there hasn't been a robbery around ever in my life where I live..
Spain is poor, and a fucking dump.. and I'll continue the story..
and the food tastes like a pile of dog shit.. maybe been peed in it or something.. and now.. THE CITIES.. the cities there are messy, and poor.. and that town I was in for 1 week smelled awful.. and I couldn't even breath.. the air is so heavy.. and the heat was killing me.. and the people there are all poor.. and they try to steal all the time, and if a rich family even comes to spain.. they will all get robbed.. and stuff.. and I'll continue the story even more..
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and a dude there was looking at my PSP, I was just too rich, and gave him a fuck you sign..
and spain is not beutiful.. its an awful country and I never want to go there again in my life..
and I've been to USA, in USA the people are rich, they don't steal from rich people, even if they are poor.. but the people in the USA are kinda stupid.. they always vote for bush as the president, and they are just asking for more war..
Then you didn't see ALL of Spain. You just went to the wrong place. I am Spanish and live in Madrid, and even I get surprised when I travel to other parts of Spain, because they are so different from each other. You should know that Spain is one of the main tourist destinations of the WORLD.
Iceland is in europe.. you people seem to think iceland is in america..
but america is gonna get bombed in a nuclear war at 2012, that's what Nostradamus says.. so I'm never going to america, I'm staying in europe.. and I think europe is the safest spot..
Definitivamente, eres gilipollas. Tu cerebro no puede alcanzar la temperatura minima para funcionar, lo mismo que le pasa a las calculadoras en invierno. Después de todo, no es culpa tuya.
Again, you just didn't went to a proper place!! =) But if I would have to say about any food that it "tastes like a pile of dog shit", I would say it about fast food. And it's not that people from other countries are rich and we're poor, it's that people from other countries have more acquisitive power. But politicians are to blame!!
wow.. you're so happy.. I just told the truth what I thought about it.. but I'm sorry, but it was really the worst place I've been in my life.. denmark was the second..
You fuckin ignorant! Spain beats america. look where you live... america is shit: there are just fat asses, ignorant people, and not even clubs or nightlife because u guys suck. look at yourself and stop talking about other countries u don´t know anything. just shut the fuck up.
I live in Iceland.. not america.. but I'vee been in america, and there are nice people there ..really.. but Iceland is the freakin best because everyone there speaks english, and our icelandic.. o people can get help everywhere if they speak olny english.. somewhere in europe, people don't even speak english! and polland is a freakin nightmare..
I just found out looking at the CIA world factbook that there are more robberies in ICeland thatn in any other country in Europe. You guys are drunk thiefs that steal from your oun mothers. Viva espana hijo de puta.
yeah, right.. we in iceland never steal anything.. we are too rich to do that.. and no1 in my country even gets awaywith it because there are so few people here.. dumb ass.. think you can lie like that?
Fuck you and get into your icy country where people can't go out in winter because of the cold.You haven't got tourists, you haven't made nothing in history and ur fucking island is isolated in the middle of the atlantic.hope one day a geiser fucks u and ur family in ur ass.
"we in iceland have many tourists.. and even iceland is filling with bunks of people from polland that don't even know how to speak english.."
Hmmmmmmmmmm, who was the most powerful EUROPEAN country in the world for almost 1,000 years?
And who has been the most influential country in the world?
Trust me bud, if the Spanish had done what they did in Chile and Argentina, more than half of the world would be white and there would be very little hispanics.
joder confundir la mancha con madrid, bueno están pegados pero vamos.
pintoresmadrid 3 months ago
@pintoresmadrid madrid es de castilla la nueva... es decir... la mancha xD otra cosa es que con la transición le hicieran una comunidad para ella sola
lisanecesita1aparato 4 days ago
energia solar
albornozmicrofibra 4 months ago
At the top of the pipe, if you add several mini size of this Concentrated Solar Power disks /watch?v=rRYfsAExkUw, it can initiate the upward drift of air flow.
beancube2010 8 months ago
It seems to me these things would have to be absolutely massive if they were to deliver realistic amounts of energy. This 200 m tower only delivered 60 kw, which is a pittance.
I don´t see where you want to build them in developed countries. If in the desert, you are back to the same problem that desertec has, namely distance and transportation.
Derukugi2 8 months ago
@Derukugi2 Well transportation isn't a issue if you up the voltage really high the resistance is almost nill
vampov 4 months ago
@vampov
Well, why don´t you explain your simple solutions to engineers world-wide. Because power plants are always built as close to consumers as possible. Everybody except you seems to see the problem.
Derukugi2 4 months ago
It's great to see mega projects like these. I wonder if 3 medium sized (Smaller Towers) are equal to or easier to do than such a huge tower. I also urge people creating their own personal projects. Google "How to produce solar energy" You will find guides to help you do your own.
EarlNetwal 9 months ago
A desert is the best place to build them, BTW.
The only way these are going to be built is for everyone (including you!) to call or email your utility company and tell them you want it !!
The 'floating solar chimney' can be built for about 1/3rd the cost of an equivalent coal powered plant up to about 400MW!
You tube doesn't allow links, but you can Google "Floating Solar Chimney technology" to see it, the web address ends with .gr
Thumbs up to keep this on top, so everyone can know!
Charlesincharge42 9 months ago 6
@Charlesincharge42 There is something I don't get with the Floating Solar Chimney. Always when power is produced over a turbine there is a pressure drop. EnviroMission calculates with a drop at about1500 Pa. This means that there will be a net pressure on the canvass of about 150 kg/m2. No fabric can withstand this. I can't see that the floating solar chimney is realistic.
Siddis33 2 months ago
@Siddis33 Sounds like a great question for the engineer that came up with the idea.
Although I did find the FAQ with the following answer:
"The fabrics for the FSC’s lifting tubes are already used in airship, balloon or outdoor tent industry. Very strong fabrics, reinforced with composite fibbers, for the FSC’s supporting tubes are already used in the construction of many inflated structures with higher overpressures, in sailing etc."
Charlesincharge42 2 months ago
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Charlesincharge42 9 months ago
Very cool
richardclement 9 months ago
This is fantastic! I bet you could also grow crops of some kind under the plastic. It would make for a more efficient use of the space. I hope to see these used in the real world to supply electricity.
purplemutantas 10 months ago
@purplemutantas they are trying to build a real massive on in AZ
vampov 4 months ago
I love the last sentence, which says it all:
"This solar chimney in Spain has demonstrated that it will be possible in the future to compete on a dollar for dollar basis with virtually any other form of power generation - with that 1 unbeatable advantage: that its got an inexhaustable source of free, original, energy in the Sun."
feelytouchy67 11 months ago
I haven't read all the comments on this - and a back of cigarette packet calculation tells you in an instant why the world isn't covered in these things.
Take the UK. UK off peak demand is 50,000mw or thereabouts. To produce that you would need just over 83 million of these things, covering 365 million hectares. The UK is 24.3 million hectares, so would have to invade several other larger neighbours just to cover in plastic.
Interesting experiment, but utterly uselsss.
bertfiddledither 1 year ago
@bertfiddledither Dont you mean 833 000?
nunoguerreiro100 11 months ago
excellent . so, why aren't there hundreds of these in mexico, ecuador, arizona, nevada, new mexico?
suedonym0 1 year ago
this could be put in cities it looks like a sky scraper
TheMiamifuentes 1 year ago
fantastic idea *___*
Schock199518 1 year ago
Interesting!
amberjacksolar 1 year ago
This design could be incorperated into the houses of parliament and other political buildings to harness the enormous amounts of hot air generated within.
hablerz 1 year ago 42
@hablerz egads!
MHzredaz 1 year ago
@hablerz ^win lol
Chrisbutler1993 8 months ago
The version of this at green tower (dot) net incorporates a greenhouse and water at the center 1/3 of the area for heat retention, the benefits are enormous.
1) increases crop yields by 270%
2) can have 100% output day AND night
3) pulls _huge_ amounts of CO2 out of the air.
4) can have up to 6 days stored reserve heat
Charlesincharge42 1 year ago 2
@Charlesincharge42
There is a very long FAQ with every devious point of competitors debunked or answered, often in great detail.
One of these things costs a bit less than a coal fired plant of the same output.
What's more the design life is 160 years, many times longer than any other type of power plant.
Charlesincharge42 1 year ago
It frikkin low maintenance too!
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
1st of all in such a video, racist comments come from people with shit in their minds.2nd you have to consider what humanity achieved until today.Nothing is impossible, we are talking about our independence of fossil fuelsin order to avoid the temperature rising. WITH SIMPLE WORDS TO SURVIVE! What you cant understand? What is so strange? Build in deserts systems like that and provide clean energy to everyone.Technology exists!Stop producing weapons and you will see that also money exists
iagouaros83 1 year ago
Too expensive! 30 us dollars per W?
owfped 1 year ago
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chadisapunkrocker 1 year ago
Was this made in the 80s or does he just have a cheesy pornstar mo? ... And that jumper... with plaid shirt... Oh boy...
Slappingplastic 1 year ago
Great video...I converted my home to a net-zero solar powered home that uses no oil or gas...I made a video about it called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago
spaniards can be many colors, like everybody else.
lcabosa 1 year ago
@lcabosa no, spaniards are not many colors. They are european whites
SpainWPWW 1 year ago
spaniards = white european gypsy?
Not really. Gypsy YES, NOT white.
Like Icabosa said, spaniards, yes, can be many colors!
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
i´m portuguese and white but i know others that are portuguese but decendent from other ethnic grups, that tus not make them less portuguese by the law, i think the same happens to spain, and i hope so, it`s the mark off a countrys great history, love spain.
lcabosa 1 year ago
They need to put that think up on top of a flat knoll to help the air find the chimney, and then get a turbine with more blades and stator blades...
They need to do something because 30kWe is enough to power to light maybe 7 homes; yet look how much land it takes up... Heck, one stirling dish can do that...not to mention that $1 million in 1983 is less than half of what it is now.
A solar chimney seems way infeasible, but it's fascinating nonetheless.
randommagnum 1 year ago
@randommagnum
First of all, $1 million in 1983 in real terms is worth more than 3 times what $1 million is worth now.
Second, 30KW is what 1 turbine generates. There was about 30 turbines?..
miks8 1 year ago
@miks8 No, I looked it up. In US dollars (the unit they cited) it's about a factor of 2 (which makes this less pessimistic, but still pretty bad). There was only one turbine, though it could be replaced with a more optimal turbine, I think.
You know, a Greek person came up with the idea of using a chimney made of conjoined envelopes filled with lifting gas, making a cost-effective "floating" chimney. If it were me, I'd bank on that idea.
randommagnum 1 year ago
quite useless during the winter aint it ?
shaorma4life 1 year ago
@GrIQ
White like spaniards are? Since when spaniards are nordic? YOU'RE BROWN!!! FUCKING BROWN!!!!
Muahahahahah
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
I didn't said Nordic idiot, I said WHITE !! you can't read or what ??
SpainWPWW 1 year ago
@SpainWPWW
but you're not white, spaniards are brown!
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
yes, spaniards are White.
SpainWPWW 1 year ago
Since when gypsys are white?
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
LOL From a spaniard that doesn't want to be called gypsy! You're ridiculous!
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
Why you mexicans hate us so much?
ju4nito 1 year ago
Listen to me you dumbfuck: LICK MY NUTS!!! Have you ever saw me? And whats the wrong with not being white?
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
obcessed? inferiority complex? You spaniards lie so fucking much it becomes ridiculous!
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
Finland, Romania, India. Gypsys are from everywhere except from spain, right? ahahahahahahahahah
spain = gypsyland
FuckUandUrMamma 1 year ago
@FuckUandUrMamma actually dude... gypsies originated from india... and started making a home in spain, romania, italy, russia, germany.
shaorma4life 1 year ago
what ?O.o There is no song @.@
peeke01 2 years ago
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Built by germans... LOL no wonder everything in spain is built by other people!
That place is a shithole full of drug addict gypsys!
FuckUandUrMamma 2 years ago
you don't even know what a gypsy is.
so shut up you troll.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
spaniard = gypsy = "gitano"
FuckUandUrMamma 2 years ago
learn to spell butt hurt boy.
it's gypsies, not gypsys.
and yes, there's gypsies in Spain, so there is in France, and Italy, and Ukraine and Germany, and Austria and Russia...
Gypsies are Romanian, they move from place to place, there's quite a lot in Spain, but we don't really take "gypsy" as an insult, gypsies are people with a very harsh lifestyle, some are dishonest, but in Spain we embrace them as any other Ethnic group, and pull your head out of your ass.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
Actually they are from India, you stupidfuck!!! But But they moved mostly to spain, that piece of shit country where you live in!!!
"but in spain we embrace them as any other etnic group"
Is that true? Oh certainly not! You are dumb racist, that a "gyppo" lifestyle, allways moving to other places, stealing people, killing them, why? Because dumb gypsys still think the way people used to think 200 hundred years ago!!!
FuckUandUrMamma 2 years ago
no, they are not from India, the culture itself originated there, but the modern gypsies are Romani usually, most of them speak Roma, the Gypsies used to live Sindh, Rajasthan and Punjab, but they migrated out of there in the11-12 century, and since then most of them have lived in Romania. they have been almost 10 centuries in Romania, therefore Romanian!! in spain hey are about 1 percent of the population, in Romania they are more than 10 percent, don't talk about shit you don't know.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
Whats wrong with you being gypsy?
FuckUandUrMamma 2 years ago
upps ,sorry
lgo10 2 years ago
What is the song?
lgo10 2 years ago
You could farm or graze under the canopy, or harvest feed grass for animals. That could also be left as an oxygen making green space.
Also cement is one of the most recycled products on earth. Using old streets for new power sounds great. ... I wonder if a dark tinted surface would draw better?
riftalope 2 years ago
How much enery does it produce per second/hour ? I need to know this for my school project about renewable energy, can somebody tell me? Thanks :)
beefnoodles9 2 years ago
Well, if you don't like it then just keep burning polluting oil and coal, which by the way are non-renewable.
crylo2000 2 years ago
How much concrete an steel is it going to make to built one of these? That's not very environmentally friendly.
shaynek77 2 years ago
So we should stop building houses and basically stop manufacturing anything? I'd rather a power plant like that built that generates clean renewable energy rather than a coal fired power plant that emits harmful toxins and carbon. Think about it.
enviergy 2 years ago
Nice idea. Only too expensive. You can build solar cells for much less. I still like the idea. It just needs to be made allot more cost affective.
m8s4lif 2 years ago
already started building it in Australia . solar tower
whotookmynickkokokai 2 years ago
According to my calculation home pv cost $1500 /kwh. This machine cost 33000/kwh. Is this correct?
dugudr 2 years ago
wow must cost you $50 just to turn the TV on where you live.
mryellow123 2 years ago
It`s wrong. Your calculculation is based on the cost of the non-renewable energy, which is the cost of the coal or the oil + mainteinance of the power plant. This tower`s TOTAL cost is about $ 1.000.000 to construct, but after constructed it`s almost for free the cost of the energy (compared whit oil or coal). To make your calculation, you have to spread the tower`s cost among 10 or 15 years, with the generation of the average energy produced(15-30 kW). I hope have solved your dude.
bidonejack 2 years ago
also, at the top of the tower, if there was a right-angle swiveling elbow for the exhaust to be released in the direction of the wind, the wind will create a vacuum that will pull the air from tube as well
tuneup1200 2 years ago
i think
if they put the canopy over a black-top asphalt parking lot,
the air would be heated much more quickly - also it would
work longer at night with all of the heat absorption during
the day, anything that is the color black will always absorb
more heat from the sun- better yet would be a large black metal egg-carton underneath the canopy which would yield more heated sq footage for the same canopy size
tuneup1200 2 years ago
We need to get smart about energy.
waynemccranie 2 years ago
I heard these solar updraft towers are less than 1% efficient! Compare that to the SunCatcherTM unit from StirlingEnergySystems which is a CSP dish collector that can get 25 KW with an area of about 80m2. The energy conversion principles at work here are the greenhouse effect and the chimney effect.... which require huge areas. I'd stick with the Stirling Cycle and concentrated solar. Where else can you get 31.25% solar to electrical efficiencies? Good Idea.... if you are a hippy.
DalhousieTeam4 2 years ago
a peak perfomance of 60kW and a sustained one of 30kw? this is the power output of a small car at an investment of 1.000.000 US$. This is a losing proposition then and it will be. You cannot trick physics. The numbers dont bear that out. A thinly spread source of energy will always require huge collective mechanisms.
With peak oil having arrived and peak carbon in general looming around the corner I just don't see any serious alternative to nuclear if we dont want to freeze in the dark.
Polyglot101 2 years ago
nice pink sweater.
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mpgg5 2 years ago
truthiness79: that's not the idea with this particular tower. This is to drive heat up the chimney. I'm sure you've seen the other excellent projects from Spain regarding using parabolic mirrors to drive a turbine at the top of a tower. This example is first project they worked on.
With a build cost of US$1 million, this is a great solution.
benmiles00 3 years ago
So then the air is drawn under the canopy by the force of air being drawn up the tower, and that force is being generated by the heat from the sun being trapped inside the tower?
lazyperfectionist1 3 years ago
Of course not.
The air is being heated in canopy (greenhouse). And as we all know heated air is lighter then cool air so that it will tend to go up. And the only way to escape is tower, and in tower are generators.
Ackreti 3 years ago
As far as I can tell, though, the canopy is completely level. If this is the case, then there is no reason why heated air would escape up the tower more than it would simply escape over the edge of the canopy. If the canopy is sealed to the ground, then how does air get in in the first place?
lazyperfectionist1 3 years ago
... maybe they just keep canopy closed for some time untill its warm enough and then open the tower and open some ways to canopy itself so that heat air can escape....
Ackreti 3 years ago
But in order for that to do any good, the canopy would still have to be higher around the base of the tower than around its outer edge or the rising air would simply escape over the edge of the canopy, unless the air inside the tower is also being heated, and therefore is rising, causing a vacuum which draws in the air from under the canopy, which, being heated, contributes to the lift effect.
lazyperfectionist1 3 years ago
maybe its just enough for the hot air in the middle of the canopy to go up the tower and the rest from the outer edge
recliner9876 2 years ago
The air under the canopy is heated. Some of it enters the tower. When in the tower, it will lift and suck in more hot air into the tower. When starting, some hot air will escape att the outer edge, but as opposed to the air in the tower, it won't keep sucking out more hot air. When the process is up and running, most of the hot air will get sucked into the tower.
basecius 2 years ago
Is there any reason why heat from the sun's light would not also get, to some extent, trapped inside the tower, further raising the temperature of the air there and contributing the the vacuum effect drawing in the air under the canopy?
lazyperfectionist1 2 years ago
It's about capturing convection currents. The air keeps moving. The only time it would stop is if the air cools before it reaches the top in which case the convection cycles within the tube.
mryellow123 2 years ago
Why not put several turbines up the tube?
insanity54 3 years ago
The turbines create drag on the system. Just like any motor the more current you draw the more fuel you need.
mryellow123 2 years ago
Germany is the leading country for renewable energy sources!
Chinaboy80 3 years ago 2
no no no, they have to much Coal Power, SWEDEN NR 1!!
iloveanime900 3 years ago
I would have thought that the fan blades would be better off being higher up, so that a Bernoulli Effect would cause the velocity of the air to be higher than down low where it seemed they were in a wide part of the chimney. $1M for 30Kw? Not ready for prime-time that's for sure. Are they counting what real estate to put many of these on would cost? And isn't there a PROBLEM with vegetation growing up underneath? Block the air-flow, and grow up through the 0.1mm-thick plastic? D'oh!
peacefuljeffrey 3 years ago
Very cool!
pmacbee 3 years ago
Wouldn't it be more efficient and cheaper to use Fresnel lenses focused on the bottom of the chimney?
truthiness79 3 years ago
this is awesome !
o rage ! o desespoir ! o vieillesse ennemie ! o tour solaire !
science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'ame !
sa m'excite ce truc !
lordkoden 3 years ago
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Ya keep it up!!! Then America will bomb you. Their is no such thing as free energy. Can you all not see that. This technologie and others are accient but are never put into production, why??? like I said, no such thing as free energy. Please put this into mass production and you shall see the outcome. I challenge you Spain. Do it.... The world is the Bitch of the u.s.a.
jdearden409 3 years ago
Lol, you idiot!
thevoiceofreason02 3 years ago
i loove spain but im not spain.......
vlad995 3 years ago
In some regions, like the US buildings over a certain height have to be painted for visibility. Like this tower for example is white and red, most probably for that reason. It's so smaller aircraft don't fly into them.
Joe11Blue 3 years ago
Why don't they paint the top of the building black? Wouldn't that contribute to the updraft?
mcbowler 3 years ago
Wind generators are against building codes in many places. They are too noisy, I guess. Like these 2fast2furious faggots that race nobody in their little 4bangers, but no one stops them! w t f
theunknownknows 3 years ago
building codes will have to be changed then.
ad a litlle anti noise to the turbine and it runs quitly
marktimmer2212 3 years ago
I hope so. You can get one for like 7k installed, and it takes up less space than a toolshed.
theunknownknows 3 years ago
Euhm, why is the plastic white and not black?
fatjohn1408 3 years ago
Because black plastic would absorb the light (heat) as opposed to just letting it through to heat the ground (which through radiant heat heats the air) and air which then rises due to the properties of physics, and then moves through the tower which turns the turbine generator.
noobystok 3 years ago
When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges.
LittleTruckingBozo 3 years ago
Olé... no entiendo nada de lo que ponéis, pero viva el sol...
zarafran69 3 years ago
can they garden underneath it? grow food?
I could imagine an array of 10 acre farms with enough room between them to allow adequate ingress of air, each farm self sustaining with irrigation, lighting, equipment all powered by the tower.
Now what if the tower itself was an electrostatic device, charging not only from the turbine but also the air's electrical movement (like clouds/lightning) ...
Or I could go fuck myself like one of you is undoubtedly going to ask me to do.
FuckinShovel 3 years ago
I think you're onto something with that. I smell the future. Consider yourself un-gofuckyourselfed.
SilasCrane 3 years ago
The plantations beneath the sheeting would impede the airflow making the the power plant less efficient. Might be good for growing cannabis as a home project though though, that chimney would keep the smell from the neighbours, so no-one would suspect anything.
locouk 3 years ago 8
Ahaha best comment ever! :D No1 would suspect anything with a structure like that in the yard! XD
Hazza105 3 years ago
good point
marktimmer2212 3 years ago
@locouk The plants offer more benefit from better heat exchange than they impede the process.
Check out the very thorough FAQ at green tower (dot) net
Charlesincharge42 1 year ago
@locouk While your imagination is great, it doesn't change the fact that you have been uprated by greedy, narrow minded fools who wish to continue their own power. Even if what you said was true, it would be a fraction of the cost to degrain the soil so that this wouldn't be a problem. Stop being a Talmud lover, and open your mind to different races being able to evolve independently, and for true human diversity to flourish on this planet, not your dreams of Jewish supremacy.
zogzillakilla 1 year ago
@zogzillakilla Spoken like a true asshole. I suggest you put your head back up your butt and carry on listening to your own anal murmurs.
I'm amazed your mom and dad let you on the Internet unsupervised?
locouk 1 year ago
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zogzillakilla 1 year ago
Yeah, there gonna harvest it with tractors. Go fuck yourself. lol.
fatjohn1408 3 years ago
Bollocks to diesel poluting tractors... I'd have a team of highly trained Ooompa-Looompas to reap my harvest.
Ps. I've never tried fucking myself before, but once you got the 1st 2 inches in.. It sure beats a having wank!
locouk 3 years ago
I know, that's why i only suggest it to a nice lad like yourself. Next try to suck yourself to after you fucked yourself but be sure to swallow because recent studies showed it's good for your health! Whishing you the best, Fatjohn1408.
fatjohn1408 3 years ago
I've always prefered suck then fuck, not the other way around... it maes my breath smell else!
locouk 3 years ago
If they do have winds of up to 150 km/h most of the year they can easily put a wind generator. For $ 1000 000 you can get way more than 30kw. The experiment look interesting but its just that, an experiment.
herlufoax 3 years ago
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A million buck for 30Kw what a massive waste of time.
nilbud 4 years ago
Yes, a million buck. That's surprising because it's actually considered economical-- try looking at relative power costs instead of being an idiot.
And looking at the big picture, it's a gigantic experiment that has proven that it is feasible to construct more such plants with greater efficiency elsewhere.
RedDaVincy 3 years ago 3
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It is you who are the idiot, you could plant rape on the same land and get more from burning the oil than 30Kw. The experiment has shown that this is an inefficient waste of resources and always will be.
nilbud 3 years ago
You dumb cocksucker you don't even know the differtence between a Kw and a Mw, pizzle.
nilbud 3 years ago
It produces an average of 30kW, what's your deal?!
Thomson1929 3 years ago
I'm mostly interested in the Jw - of which I need precisely 1.21
FuckinShovel 3 years ago
As well as economic, I wonder about it's possibility in arid hot lands where food is scarce. Why couldn't that space exist to feed locals as a self sustaining farm?
Any downsides to that?
justfoo2006 3 years ago 2
There's plenty of food ;)
Sandude 3 years ago
Well they're also working on such a project in the Australian outback.
lazyperfectionist1 3 years ago
Fuente la Lancha is a VERY rural area, in fact the output probably supplied much if not all of the power needed for the entire village. A million dollars for a long term reliable source of free zero emission energy with low to no maintainance costs for 10 years plus, conducting a vital experiment in solar thermal air induction designs for producing larger ones with higher output. Seem like you ignore the bigger picture and point. Quit being a douche, we don't have to burn everything for energy.
dckanjana 3 years ago 2
You see, that's the ticket!
RedDaVincy 3 years ago
you think that iceland is in Europe, you dumb ass. I think the cold has effected our twelve year old brain.
tabalot 4 years ago
Iceland is in Europe...
wainerkorven 4 years ago 3
It was discovered by Germans but over the years the Sh has been dropped from the start of the name.
nilbud 4 years ago
Deduced from his cloathing, this video was made in the 80'ties, when solar panels where less effective.
teemuruskeepaa 4 years ago
ESPAÑA
vobest 4 years ago
Very interesting. If the government really wants to distance itself from big oil and fossilfuels, I think this is one way to go..
jeepman65 4 years ago
That is wonderfull, we need to start building those here in America.
ekuwa69 4 years ago
and then you woke up and realized that ur the thief and your gay grandpa got beat-up in spain becasue they found out hy is Icelandic,gay and you are a pussy with a frozen brain cuz of your shitty weather.
jessesierra 4 years ago
I'm no thief.. I don't even know how it is to be poor.. I mean.. I wouldn't just rob everyone just to get an what.. Ipod.. PSP.. what would I do with it.. sell it?? no one would even buy it from you so these thiefs in spain are very stupid.. and maybe they are just nuts because the heat makes you go crazy.. I couldn't live in that heat for less than month.. it would make me go crazy.. and rob like everyone else.. but Iceland is just.. home. always rather cold..
humanice2 4 years ago
humanice2: please buy a heater and start warming up your frozen small brain. once you notice its getting too hot; put the heater even closer til you burn to death.
jessesierra 4 years ago
no need for that, if you want to burn to death, go to a nice trip to spain for 2 weeks..
humanice2 4 years ago
humanice is right. In Spain there are a lot of robbers. Mostly , they are inmigrants from the USA, that go to Spain lookin for a better live, but because they don't want to work honestly a lot of them prefer rob to erveryone. I expect the spanish goverment get all of then into jail. In my country, Germany, know how to deal with than kind of people.
sicodelico111 4 years ago
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in Spain.. its hot.. and so heavy air that you can barly breath.. and I don't understand how people at Spain can live.. it sucks so bad there..
even at 2 at night, there was just families walking around at night with their 3-5 years old children.. I mean.. is that even human?
and even there's a lot of robbery going on there.. Spain just makes me sick.. if I would buy a PS3, and walk with the PS3 box to my house there, how many chances would it be that I would get robbed? I'd say about 98%
humanice2 4 years ago
spain is beutiful, is the best country for to live because in spain the food,the people, the cities, the culture... are very marvellous however the life in other countries as USA are vey bad
manu1z 4 years ago 7
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"the cities", "the food", "the people"..
dude.. people!? ALL of the people there are theifs and steal too much of stuff.. my grandfather was there for 1 week, and his car almost got robbed, and a broken window by some1 trying to steal it and some girl tried to pull away his bag and run away, THAT IS NOT HUMAN, in Iceland, there hasn't been a robbery around ever in my life where I live..
Spain is poor, and a fucking dump.. and I'll continue the story..
humanice2 4 years ago
and the food tastes like a pile of dog shit.. maybe been peed in it or something.. and now.. THE CITIES.. the cities there are messy, and poor.. and that town I was in for 1 week smelled awful.. and I couldn't even breath.. the air is so heavy.. and the heat was killing me.. and the people there are all poor.. and they try to steal all the time, and if a rich family even comes to spain.. they will all get robbed.. and stuff.. and I'll continue the story even more..
humanice2 4 years ago
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and a dude there was looking at my PSP, I was just too rich, and gave him a fuck you sign..
and spain is not beutiful.. its an awful country and I never want to go there again in my life..
and I've been to USA, in USA the people are rich, they don't steal from rich people, even if they are poor.. but the people in the USA are kinda stupid.. they always vote for bush as the president, and they are just asking for more war..
humanice2 4 years ago
Then you didn't see ALL of Spain. You just went to the wrong place. I am Spanish and live in Madrid, and even I get surprised when I travel to other parts of Spain, because they are so different from each other. You should know that Spain is one of the main tourist destinations of the WORLD.
Sylphadora 4 years ago 5
Hope you freeze your balls up there in iceland. By the way you'r the only foreign person who dislikes spanish food and it's climate.
FeelMetalMan 4 years ago 3
Yes I hate being American; I'm Moving elsewhere to avoid this kind of nonsense. America Is less a democracy than It ever was these days...
TaffyAlpha 4 years ago
Iceland is in europe.. you people seem to think iceland is in america..
but america is gonna get bombed in a nuclear war at 2012, that's what Nostradamus says.. so I'm never going to america, I'm staying in europe.. and I think europe is the safest spot..
humanice2 4 years ago
Definitivamente, eres gilipollas. Tu cerebro no puede alcanzar la temperatura minima para funcionar, lo mismo que le pasa a las calculadoras en invierno. Después de todo, no es culpa tuya.
astivicente 4 years ago 6
hey! Im spanish, i`ve got an psp, my brtothers too, and nobody thinks im a rich (thigs are cheaper in europe cause we have euros)
kysco 4 years ago 3
I hate to break it to you, but that's not how economics work.
MagicMinus 4 years ago 2
Maybe economics can take into consideration Spain to be the 9th country of the world in economic terms, with a population of about 45 million.
Sandude 3 years ago 2
I was talking to the guy who said "things are cheaper in Europe because we have Euros."
MagicMinus 3 years ago
Things are more expensive in Europe...
There's a lot of people travelling from Spain to Japan or USA to buy laptops, mp3, videogames, etc...
Sandude 3 years ago
your just a an ugly fuck that is angry cuz you could not get laid in spain.
jessesierra 4 years ago
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I don't want to, there are only some ugly fat women out there in spain..
humanice2 4 years ago
Again, you just didn't went to a proper place!! =) But if I would have to say about any food that it "tastes like a pile of dog shit", I would say it about fast food. And it's not that people from other countries are rich and we're poor, it's that people from other countries have more acquisitive power. But politicians are to blame!!
Sylphadora 4 years ago
wow.. you're so happy.. I just told the truth what I thought about it.. but I'm sorry, but it was really the worst place I've been in my life.. denmark was the second..
humanice2 4 years ago
that could be in EE.UU cause they`ve got weapons.
kysco 4 years ago
You fuckin ignorant! Spain beats america. look where you live... america is shit: there are just fat asses, ignorant people, and not even clubs or nightlife because u guys suck. look at yourself and stop talking about other countries u don´t know anything. just shut the fuck up.
luisotopo1080 4 years ago
I live in Iceland.. not america.. but I'vee been in america, and there are nice people there ..really.. but Iceland is the freakin best because everyone there speaks english, and our icelandic.. o people can get help everywhere if they speak olny english.. somewhere in europe, people don't even speak english! and polland is a freakin nightmare..
humanice2 4 years ago
well, Im form spain and I speak 4 languages so watch out what you say. anyways, u know everything so I dont wanna talk to you. bye
luisotopo1080 4 years ago 4
what are you 13? and yea i bet you can...
bryanthcin 4 years ago
I just found out looking at the CIA world factbook that there are more robberies in ICeland thatn in any other country in Europe. You guys are drunk thiefs that steal from your oun mothers. Viva espana hijo de puta.
jessesierra 4 years ago 5
yeah, right.. we in iceland never steal anything.. we are too rich to do that.. and no1 in my country even gets awaywith it because there are so few people here.. dumb ass.. think you can lie like that?
humanice2 4 years ago
I'm spanish but that sounds pretty ignorant of you
KDP3200 4 years ago
Fuck you and get into your icy country where people can't go out in winter because of the cold.You haven't got tourists, you haven't made nothing in history and ur fucking island is isolated in the middle of the atlantic.hope one day a geiser fucks u and ur family in ur ass.
trobi 4 years ago
we in iceland have many tourists.. and even iceland is filling with bunks of people from polland that don't even know how to speak english..
humanice2 4 years ago
"we in iceland have many tourists.. and even iceland is filling with bunks of people from polland that don't even know how to speak english.."
Hmmmmmmmmmm, who was the most powerful EUROPEAN country in the world for almost 1,000 years?
And who has been the most influential country in the world?
Trust me bud, if the Spanish had done what they did in Chile and Argentina, more than half of the world would be white and there would be very little hispanics.
GenCollado 4 years ago