It's not because designers are gay men or whatever that the clothes they make for women only fit size 0 models... It's because the fashion industry has succumbed to fetishisation, along with the architecture industry and the art industry. It's not about beauty anymore but about how far they can push it in an impossible direction. Just look at what paintings are claiming the big bucks these days. Complete crap. And buildings are made to look interesting, not attractive. The death of beauty.
@tet43 Being a gay man you are not able to appreciate that larger women can be the stuff of fantasy and desire. If you listen to the video it's explained that as many designers are gay they design with boyish physiques in mind hence low body fat ratio=fashion. We are all different and you should try to be a lover not a hater.
@jeffeastwood15 I'm guessing one off, and that is Alison Moyet, she is in other bits of this programme, and they also appeared together on various chat shows (some of which are in the side bar)
Fashion is about fantasy and desire.They do not show large women in clothes becasue noone wants to buy reality.Though I adore Dawn French, she is not just large, she is morbidly obese, and should be concerned for her health.I'm a stocky, short, gay man, and go tothe gym to maintain my health, not to be validated. Perhaps Miss French could benefit from a change of perception on this matter.
@korearichie People gain weight for a variety of reasons, not all of them at the fault of themselves, and we don't have conclusive data to tell us for certain how many of them have issues that are beyond their own control, but we know enough to tell us that it's not as rare as we thought. It not only involves the kinds of food we eat and the amount of exercise we get, but also how well our metabolisms work, how we feel emotionally, our mental health and yes, even our genetics.
@korearichie I know you don't understand how repugnantly selfish you sound, so allow me.
You're not interested in solutions, because as I said, your complaints are about your personal comfort. And the great irony to all of this is that, since all you're doing is bitching and moaning, not learning about this issue, nothing is going to be solved. This is NOT ABOUT YOU, and that your "approach" to it is in fact detrimental to it. So you're actually making it worse by being so ignorant.
@korearichie See the problem is that you're not worried about solving this, you're worried about your own personal comfort.
-Whining about your personal space on public transport (and measuring someone's worthiness to sit down next to you, I might add)
-Complaining that they're taking money from YOUR PERSONAL national health care system.
-DENYING people medical treatment until they "prove themselves" to you, people who, depending on why they're fat, might benefit the most from treatment.
@korearichie All I'm hearing from you is excuses. I never said whether I was fat or not, I said I may be fat, as in "might be, might not be." You're assuming I am. And I'd say "you're making an ass out of you and me," but you've probably got enough ass for the both of us.
Your concerns seem to change every time you post. Which is it? The burden on your personal HCS? Appearances? Bus seats? Come on, champ.
And tell me your feelings on homosexuals. I caught your homophobia on that other vid.
@korearichie And even if you're not into the pro-ana trend, your "burn, burn, burn, as long as I stay happy" attitude marks you as a narcissistic sociopath. Do you carry this persona with you offline, too?
Man, I might be hopelessly fat, but at least I don't have to deal with your issues.
@korearichie The fact that you try to dehumanize people who literally cannot lose weight is perfect for me, because now I know your discrimination is not based on health, but appearance. Under that sparkly exterior is a slimy, disgusting bigot, and who's to say you'd stop at discriminating against people based on weight?
Your own weight paranoia is very telling- sounds like someone's suffering from anorexia and loving every minute of it. You into the pro-ana scene, bro? Wanna be my ana buddy?
@korearichie Oh, you're white too, huh? Well, don't that just fit the stereotype? Smug, privileged and egomaniacal.
If the criteria for success is to be a model and nothing more, then you've got me beat. If the criteria is being useful? Well, that's a different story. Of course you'll probably say something like, "what's so useful about an 800 pound blob?" And I'll say, "I wasn't talking about someone who's 800 pounds. People are considered fat if they're so much as 30 pounds overweight, champ."
@korearichie And no, sorry, you don't have the right to insult ugly people. What you are doing is voluntarily being a prick- no one's deliberately "offending your eyes." You're justifying your own insanity.
You are nothing but a superficial, selfish egomaniac, you have no business telling people to change themselves or denying people health care, and if that's actually a photo of you on your myspace page, then you've got nothing to brag about, little man.
@korearichie It makes NO SENSE to DENY medical treatment to people with an addiction or an eating disorder. The whole reason we even HAVE treatment centers for people with those issues is because it's too difficult for most people to treat those issues by themselves! It's not just a lack of willpower, you stupid, annoying little toothpick- addictions and EDs alter the brain's chemistry. Most people NEED help to beat them.
@korearichie Learn how to type in the language you're trying to speak in.
Your ideal world is not reality, and in pretending that it is, you and people like you cause others to suffer because they can't live up to your expectations. In fact, the most insulting thing about this aren't your expectations, but rather that you expect people to conform to them. No, not everyone has the willpower you want them to have. You have to accept that.
@korearichie Being "repulsive" is subjective by who you ask and has fuckall to do with health.
And frankly if someone has an addiction to high-calorie foods or overeats due to an eating disorder, isn't denying them health care kind of counterproductive? Sounds like you just want to find a way to play "punish the fatty."
I think Dawn may have a point that a lot of fashion designers are gay men who think of boys when they design their clothes, hence their clothes only suiting boyish shapes
"whats that in your hand?" "it's kate moss... using her as a paintbrush." lol! I LOVE DAWN FRENCH! And I don't care what size she is, she is GORGEOUS and a beautiful person.
Thanks, Dawn, for saying this... She's not afraid to be herself, and she looks (as she says in her Catherine Zeta-Jones parodies) FAB-LOUS!! Love her to death!
If we women want to be empowered we need to stop thinking about our looks so much. I think it's a depressing idea that women who do not fit into the current beauty ideal need to be talked into believing that they are beautiful anyway. As if the most important thing in a woman's life is to be pretty and it's impossible to be happy otherwise. How about not putting your whole self-esteem down to your looks? Nevermind beauty ideals, don't read fashion mags in the first place!
As much as I love Dawn, I'm saddened to hear her use that hoary old cliche about gay male designers designing for boyish bodies. Well, no, gay men like men, not boys. That's a saying that's only used by middle class tabloids that like to confuse homosexuality with paedophilia and it's very annoying.
she just pointed out that its a theory, I don't think that's what she actually believes.
There is a perception that many gay men do find young-looking "boyish" men attractive. The sort of hairless feminine male models in magazines as apposed to the more "manly" "bear" look. I think the pressure for gay men to look fit is be as bad as the pressure for women to look thin.
I don't think she meant "boyish body" as in adolescent I think she meant boyish as in Twink. Look at any Ambercrombie ad. Twinks are the gay ideal right now. The Bear community rallies against this image but it prevails in the mainstream gay community. The media image of the gay man would make you believe that all gay men are white, rich and thin. The fashion industry enforces this as well.
i was brought up around gay men and i know what your saying is right gay men are sound and good people ! but i think what she meant was the fashion industry disign clothes that dont look good on real women but adrodinus ( sorry cant spell that ) frames
how can tht women say theres not a conscious decision to use only thin models? omg people who arent thin are edited in photoshop these days! okay im reli bad cuz i view myself n most people as fat...but when i look at dawn i dont think she is...and i think its cuz she dnt care, so i dnt wana care anymore either
DF is seriously hot and just gets hotter all the time. Check out her Catherine Zeta Jones parody for Comic Aid, it's hilarious and her rack is amazing!
my hubby thinks Dawn French is one of the sexiest women around. That makes me happy knowing that not all men allow society to dictate to them what is appealing and what is unacceptable.There is a freedom in being comfortable and sexy in your own skin no matter what your shape and size may be. In the end we all go to pot with age so enjoy the love and adoration from those who appreciate us in all our natural splendor while we can and be happy we are shaped like real women adored thruout time.
Men are into curves. We talk excitedly about tomatoes, buns, and melons, not about pixie sticks and microphone stands. Come to think of it, men use a lot of food metaphors when talking about attractive women. I think that's very telling. ;)
You can't go with the diet industry. But seriously human beings weren't designed to be over weight. It's very unhealthy.
ThePayola123 1 week ago
It's not because designers are gay men or whatever that the clothes they make for women only fit size 0 models... It's because the fashion industry has succumbed to fetishisation, along with the architecture industry and the art industry. It's not about beauty anymore but about how far they can push it in an impossible direction. Just look at what paintings are claiming the big bucks these days. Complete crap. And buildings are made to look interesting, not attractive. The death of beauty.
Askimoula 2 months ago
Dawn is gorgeous through and through
Y7FFVGcQ 4 months ago 3
she is one of the greatest comedians and a very beautiful woman.i wish she could loose some weight so her beauty would show more.
asabirdfree 5 months ago
kate moss as a paintbrush-cracked me up!
alexisstar10 6 months ago
I never though about that..LOL.. It is soo true about the food metaphors isn't it. :-)
deinellpugs 7 months ago
@tet43 Being a gay man you are not able to appreciate that larger women can be the stuff of fantasy and desire. If you listen to the video it's explained that as many designers are gay they design with boyish physiques in mind hence low body fat ratio=fashion. We are all different and you should try to be a lover not a hater.
ticketyboooo 8 months ago
600 hundred pounds of sexy just became even More uninteresting
troddsy 8 months ago
dawn if your stuck for a date call me . your very sexy girl !
dave2806 9 months ago
These videos have helped me so much! I love Dawn French!
gilmoregirlsfan131 9 months ago
I wish someone would come to my house with a Kate Moss paintbrush. I could so outdo all those painted models.
Asxhmoula 11 months ago
Dawn French is absolutely gorgeous. I would SO hit that. And I'd make her a sandwich later.
Dale42q 1 year ago 5
lol the secound lady was funny ate a bed room
britneyslut 1 year ago
Was this a one-off special or was it a regular series? Who is the woman Dawn is talking to at the beginning? Thanks =^)
jeffeastwood15 1 year ago
@jeffeastwood15 I'm guessing one off, and that is Alison Moyet, she is in other bits of this programme, and they also appeared together on various chat shows (some of which are in the side bar)
RichPlaystation 9 months ago
i love curvy women like dawn. so sexy!
MrSuperPlayer69 1 year ago
Fashion is about fantasy and desire.They do not show large women in clothes becasue noone wants to buy reality.Though I adore Dawn French, she is not just large, she is morbidly obese, and should be concerned for her health.I'm a stocky, short, gay man, and go tothe gym to maintain my health, not to be validated. Perhaps Miss French could benefit from a change of perception on this matter.
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milliesarai 1 year ago
Anorexia has replaced the corset.
Very profound actually.
YOW1965 1 year ago 3
DF "...the 1300s...1400s... 1430...i don't know , some time in the afternoon"
pure genius
emd1032worm 1 year ago 2
I love big women but dawn french is vile. Shes shaped like a giant potatoe.
Terminator860 1 year ago
@Terminator860 - Would you have the courage to say that to her face, or are you only saying it here because you're hidden by an alias?
P.S. - There is no "e" in "potato".
OofusTwillip 1 year ago 2
@OofusTwillip of course i would. What do you think shed do? Body splash me? lol
Terminator860 1 year ago
@korearichie And you'll just ignore all of that. No room for logic or facts with all that "ME ME ME ME" spinning around in that thick noodle of yours.
As long as you've got a bus seat to yourself, you're free to decide who lives and who dies.
No, right, I'm just "making up these issues of yours." Sure.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie People gain weight for a variety of reasons, not all of them at the fault of themselves, and we don't have conclusive data to tell us for certain how many of them have issues that are beyond their own control, but we know enough to tell us that it's not as rare as we thought. It not only involves the kinds of food we eat and the amount of exercise we get, but also how well our metabolisms work, how we feel emotionally, our mental health and yes, even our genetics.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie I know you don't understand how repugnantly selfish you sound, so allow me.
You're not interested in solutions, because as I said, your complaints are about your personal comfort. And the great irony to all of this is that, since all you're doing is bitching and moaning, not learning about this issue, nothing is going to be solved. This is NOT ABOUT YOU, and that your "approach" to it is in fact detrimental to it. So you're actually making it worse by being so ignorant.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie See the problem is that you're not worried about solving this, you're worried about your own personal comfort.
-Whining about your personal space on public transport (and measuring someone's worthiness to sit down next to you, I might add)
-Complaining that they're taking money from YOUR PERSONAL national health care system.
-DENYING people medical treatment until they "prove themselves" to you, people who, depending on why they're fat, might benefit the most from treatment.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
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@korearichie All I'm hearing from you is excuses. I never said whether I was fat or not, I said I may be fat, as in "might be, might not be." You're assuming I am. And I'd say "you're making an ass out of you and me," but you've probably got enough ass for the both of us.
Your concerns seem to change every time you post. Which is it? The burden on your personal HCS? Appearances? Bus seats? Come on, champ.
And tell me your feelings on homosexuals. I caught your homophobia on that other vid.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
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ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie And even if you're not into the pro-ana trend, your "burn, burn, burn, as long as I stay happy" attitude marks you as a narcissistic sociopath. Do you carry this persona with you offline, too?
Man, I might be hopelessly fat, but at least I don't have to deal with your issues.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie The fact that you try to dehumanize people who literally cannot lose weight is perfect for me, because now I know your discrimination is not based on health, but appearance. Under that sparkly exterior is a slimy, disgusting bigot, and who's to say you'd stop at discriminating against people based on weight?
Your own weight paranoia is very telling- sounds like someone's suffering from anorexia and loving every minute of it. You into the pro-ana scene, bro? Wanna be my ana buddy?
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie Oh, you're white too, huh? Well, don't that just fit the stereotype? Smug, privileged and egomaniacal.
If the criteria for success is to be a model and nothing more, then you've got me beat. If the criteria is being useful? Well, that's a different story. Of course you'll probably say something like, "what's so useful about an 800 pound blob?" And I'll say, "I wasn't talking about someone who's 800 pounds. People are considered fat if they're so much as 30 pounds overweight, champ."
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie And no, sorry, you don't have the right to insult ugly people. What you are doing is voluntarily being a prick- no one's deliberately "offending your eyes." You're justifying your own insanity.
You are nothing but a superficial, selfish egomaniac, you have no business telling people to change themselves or denying people health care, and if that's actually a photo of you on your myspace page, then you've got nothing to brag about, little man.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie It makes NO SENSE to DENY medical treatment to people with an addiction or an eating disorder. The whole reason we even HAVE treatment centers for people with those issues is because it's too difficult for most people to treat those issues by themselves! It's not just a lack of willpower, you stupid, annoying little toothpick- addictions and EDs alter the brain's chemistry. Most people NEED help to beat them.
Your reasoning here makes no sense.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie Learn how to type in the language you're trying to speak in.
Your ideal world is not reality, and in pretending that it is, you and people like you cause others to suffer because they can't live up to your expectations. In fact, the most insulting thing about this aren't your expectations, but rather that you expect people to conform to them. No, not everyone has the willpower you want them to have. You have to accept that.
ImpKicker 1 year ago
@korearichie Being "repulsive" is subjective by who you ask and has fuckall to do with health.
And frankly if someone has an addiction to high-calorie foods or overeats due to an eating disorder, isn't denying them health care kind of counterproductive? Sounds like you just want to find a way to play "punish the fatty."
ImpKicker 1 year ago
lol she's so funny! Love this
wiccanme82 1 year ago
I think Dawn may have a point that a lot of fashion designers are gay men who think of boys when they design their clothes, hence their clothes only suiting boyish shapes
Brocolli3bunny 1 year ago
Dawn French is beautiful, as are other bigger women!!!!! :-)
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jdyrtycamgirld 1 year ago
how big is a size 16? I'm not a lady so I don't know their sizing.
jophus82 1 year ago
dawn french is rather beautiful isn't she?
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shigh10 2 years ago
Too right she is...she is gorgeous.
Bossman1959uk 2 years ago 16
"whats that in your hand?" "it's kate moss... using her as a paintbrush." lol! I LOVE DAWN FRENCH! And I don't care what size she is, she is GORGEOUS and a beautiful person.
bluevanities 2 years ago 13
Who is the blonde girl she's talking to?
ComicPhreak 2 years ago
Thanks, Dawn, for saying this... She's not afraid to be herself, and she looks (as she says in her Catherine Zeta-Jones parodies) FAB-LOUS!! Love her to death!
hurricanegeek 2 years ago
wow, the dress at 04:54 !!!1
littlemissbossybee 2 years ago
If we women want to be empowered we need to stop thinking about our looks so much. I think it's a depressing idea that women who do not fit into the current beauty ideal need to be talked into believing that they are beautiful anyway. As if the most important thing in a woman's life is to be pretty and it's impossible to be happy otherwise. How about not putting your whole self-esteem down to your looks? Nevermind beauty ideals, don't read fashion mags in the first place!
ebbsie 2 years ago 10
i do eat eggs chocolate ones lol kate moss as a paint brush. she is so funny even when she is trying to act serious
ez2stepon 2 years ago 3
Great documentary. Dawn French is beautiful.
ItsNaomiBaby 2 years ago 4
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i love dawn french but jo brand is damn out of order slagging anoerxics like that!
KymmyKinsLondon 2 years ago
i think their both amazing they both crack me up and dawn french is stunning x
misssarahlouise2k9 2 years ago
Dawn French is STUNNING. And Jo Brand is HILARIOUS.
alcoholicglitterati 2 years ago 10
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she is absolutey ENORMOUS now, morbidly obese to say the least
MickeyLove01 2 years ago
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ugly brits..look for the word "dentist" on google thats what you need
1100101zero1 2 years ago
yeh well there is 1 thing more uglier than that, YOU so i suggest u go insult some1 when u can grow some balls and some brains.
plungerofmario 2 years ago 6
Oh grow up. With a disgusting attitude like that, i cant imagine your exactly easy on the eyes.
sam8110 2 years ago 5
The quote at 9:30 says it all - I always say I'd rather be shaped like a woman than a 12yr old orphan boy!
cancrewgirl 2 years ago 10
Amen.
TomMSTie 2 years ago
"She had an extra half of bran flake for breakfast and I ate my bedroom" :DDDD
This is great stuff, thanks for posting!!
bluevienna 3 years ago 6
Is that Alison Moyet?
BUTTERFLYWARIOR 3 years ago
yes that is
greyrat2002 2 years ago
the last part is arousing.
mightycowhero 3 years ago 3
As much as I love Dawn, I'm saddened to hear her use that hoary old cliche about gay male designers designing for boyish bodies. Well, no, gay men like men, not boys. That's a saying that's only used by middle class tabloids that like to confuse homosexuality with paedophilia and it's very annoying.
shellycoat 3 years ago
she just pointed out that its a theory, I don't think that's what she actually believes.
There is a perception that many gay men do find young-looking "boyish" men attractive. The sort of hairless feminine male models in magazines as apposed to the more "manly" "bear" look. I think the pressure for gay men to look fit is be as bad as the pressure for women to look thin.
taureleafsilver 3 years ago 9
you've got a point there
piicekii 3 years ago 6
I don't think she meant "boyish body" as in adolescent I think she meant boyish as in Twink. Look at any Ambercrombie ad. Twinks are the gay ideal right now. The Bear community rallies against this image but it prevails in the mainstream gay community. The media image of the gay man would make you believe that all gay men are white, rich and thin. The fashion industry enforces this as well.
evajyna 3 years ago 11
i was brought up around gay men and i know what your saying is right gay men are sound and good people ! but i think what she meant was the fashion industry disign clothes that dont look good on real women but adrodinus ( sorry cant spell that ) frames
curvygirl1123 3 years ago 11
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does dawn french not like jo brand?
yeoman2k1 3 years ago
The Wonderful Welsh!
brand666 3 years ago
Is that Alison Moyet? It just clicked when I watched the last part lol.
cisamichanne 3 years ago
Thank you so much for posting this. Fan-bloody-tastic!!
nekomann 3 years ago 10
What an interesting concept...Gay male designers designing for boyish bodies...I'd never really looked at it that way, but it does make you wonder.
StoliDassah 3 years ago 7
I don't know about anyone else, but I think Dawn is absolutely gorgeous, and my stepdad, my brother, my dad and my uncles all agree!
xcherryflavoredx 3 years ago 11
wow when shes getting all the make up and getting her hair done right about 8:03 and on..., she looks just like Catherine Zeta Jones!!!
shes beautiful period all big women are there's something special about everyone of us shit!!!!
zuluau 3 years ago 6
how can tht women say theres not a conscious decision to use only thin models? omg people who arent thin are edited in photoshop these days! okay im reli bad cuz i view myself n most people as fat...but when i look at dawn i dont think she is...and i think its cuz she dnt care, so i dnt wana care anymore either
Alexandriabeard 3 years ago 4
DF is seriously hot and just gets hotter all the time. Check out her Catherine Zeta Jones parody for Comic Aid, it's hilarious and her rack is amazing!
telboy1966manu 3 years ago 7
She is right about the fact that gay men design a lot of the clothes, which is also why models are tall -- more like men.
lebasilah 3 years ago 10
THANK YOU!!!
the world is not completely insane!
hurray!! :D
weselefigara 3 years ago 7
my hubby thinks Dawn French is one of the sexiest women around. That makes me happy knowing that not all men allow society to dictate to them what is appealing and what is unacceptable.There is a freedom in being comfortable and sexy in your own skin no matter what your shape and size may be. In the end we all go to pot with age so enjoy the love and adoration from those who appreciate us in all our natural splendor while we can and be happy we are shaped like real women adored thruout time.
silversofva 3 years ago 12
hear hear! lol..well..I think I love your hubby!
someonezmom 3 years ago 2
This is great! I haven't seen it before. Thanks for posting
evilsheep24 3 years ago 2
"What's that in your hand?"
"It's Kate Moss...we're using her as a paintbrush!"
maestroGSWJ 3 years ago 5
Men are into curves. We talk excitedly about tomatoes, buns, and melons, not about pixie sticks and microphone stands. Come to think of it, men use a lot of food metaphors when talking about attractive women. I think that's very telling. ;)
IronGums 3 years ago 31
i do eat eggs.
easter eggs.
amanda1bone36 4 years ago 17
hahahahaha, yeah... classic!
tamschillin 4 years ago 3
"There are ones who love chocolate and complete bitches." Ahhhhhhhhhh truth.
parkviewmo 4 years ago 23
Yes, so funny, and I love the pause, DF taking a long thoughtful drag on the fag and then says, "I'm the former" LOL! She's so clever.
tamschillin 4 years ago