Ok, so a dumb question... I understand the basic concept of compressor, power, and how the engine is started. What I dont understand is why it sounds like one tubine is spooling down while another is spooling up after the fuel is introduced. Doesnt the engine need everything spinning in order to work?
Hello, my name is Edy, I am a student at the University of Campinas, sao paulo, Brazil. we have a turbine 1s/60 rover and want to make the instrumentation of the turbine, but it need the manuals, which do not possess. I wonder if you could help us with this?
Gawd I HATE digital sound reproduction! It is impossible to get a real feel for the sound the thing puts out because of all the bizarre digital artifacts generated as the RPM increases.
The start up on this engine was rather slow, it needs a start accell adjustment on the fuel control unit then most likely after that would need a start derich adjustment. I work on military jet rangers with these fitted and im constantly making N1, N2, & start accell and start derich adjustments
A new Allison 250-C18 or C20, like the ones used in a Bell 206Blll or a 206L4 will cost you about $150K, You can pick up a used one in good condition with good remaining TTO for less than $100K. However, if you are a pilot and you flub it on start-up and end up with a "hot start", the cost of repairs to the hot section can run you almost $100K
(GT) are less efficient, but power/weight ratio is much better. (Energy in hot exhaust gases is wasted!) You can either make a turbofan configuration with a high bypass ratio to lower EGT, or couple a steam turbine on the same shaft. Latter engine type achives efficiencies up to 60% and would be perfect for hybrid cars. Since this would offend oil industry, nobody ever will bring it to market. :-(
Mapanatl, neither physics, nor technology can kept secret. However, lobbyists can convince politics to not introduce a technology. E.g. google for '+Sandia +"Linear transformer Driver"', w/o single quotes. You will run into a (fully scalable!) high yield, hyperspace pulsed plasma fusion reactor system, that can even create electricity from fusion. A car would consume a few grams of Boron and H2 - for it's lifetime. You can build it, but car industry won't, as long as
raresnetboy; yes this is the engine used on the MTT Y2K turbine bike. MTT and other people have also used this engine on boats and other vehicles as well; there's even one video here of a Datsun (Nissan) 280Z with this engine as well.
Most common aircraft usage I know of is in a Bell Jetranger helicoptor.
Nice vid! Just a small correction on the comment below, this is the Allison 250 engine, however it's the C18 model with 317shp, the new C20 model does have 400shp.
how much does it cost and tell me if you see where i can buy this kined of engine i wont to poot one in a custom chopper
TheSweettooth95 4 weeks ago
Like to put that engine in the BD-5J "Acrostar" Microjet.
That is the one in the James Bond Movie Octopussy.
sixtiesforever1966 6 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK CANT POST A REPLY
sixtiesforever1966 6 months ago
Ok, so a dumb question... I understand the basic concept of compressor, power, and how the engine is started. What I dont understand is why it sounds like one tubine is spooling down while another is spooling up after the fuel is introduced. Doesnt the engine need everything spinning in order to work?
DrFocker 8 months ago
Y2k?
walkandlookup 8 months ago
Wow very small.
Daehawk 10 months ago
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edzzera 1 year ago
Hello, my name is Edy, I am a student at the University of Campinas, sao paulo, Brazil. we have a turbine 1s/60 rover and want to make the instrumentation of the turbine, but it need the manuals, which do not possess. I wonder if you could help us with this?
Thanks
edzzera 1 year ago
we are working on this one in our shop right now..just learning the basics...cute little engine
kaziabir1 1 year ago
Mercury racing put an A250 in a outboard as a prototype.
speedy02 1 year ago
We have one on a run-up stand like that at TSTC here in south TX too. Pretty badass.
valsoldier03 1 year ago
I got to do that when I went to Westwood in Houston. :D That engine makes one hell of a cool sound when it lights off and keeps itself going
Backyardmech1 1 year ago
Gawd I HATE digital sound reproduction! It is impossible to get a real feel for the sound the thing puts out because of all the bizarre digital artifacts generated as the RPM increases.
Otherwise, cool vid!
ablethevoice 1 year ago
The start up on this engine was rather slow, it needs a start accell adjustment on the fuel control unit then most likely after that would need a start derich adjustment. I work on military jet rangers with these fitted and im constantly making N1, N2, & start accell and start derich adjustments
Nebulabeing 1 year ago
where does that engine come from?
derneuschooer 2 years ago
which scool is this?
jfl187 2 years ago
for $300k it better produce 5k hp and crap cotton candy out of it´s exhaust.
nandoanalog 2 years ago
I suppose there is a "caution all those wearing wigs" sign somewhere? :)
quietfamily 2 years ago 4
They are a fantastic gas turbine, so small, light and great power output.
A absolute classic design.
leokimvideo 2 years ago 4
@leokimvideo I agree. It's found in the Hughes 500 and the Bell 206, a remarkable gas turbine engine.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
BOY THAT THAR, ... UMMM THING MUST BE LOUD HUH? mmm is there something else to get from the title of this video or other content.
MeltedPuke 2 years ago
we have seen everything else on a go cart why not and allison ? lol
jeryl1968 2 years ago
bell 206's
traebar007 3 years ago
not sure about the huges 5oo but its in the bell 206-B i worked on some at school
99golfracer 3 years ago
can you tell me how much an allison 250-c18 turbine would cost both new AND used?
nissanR92CP 3 years ago
A new Allison 250-C18 or C20, like the ones used in a Bell 206Blll or a 206L4 will cost you about $150K, You can pick up a used one in good condition with good remaining TTO for less than $100K. However, if you are a pilot and you flub it on start-up and end up with a "hot start", the cost of repairs to the hot section can run you almost $100K
greg8698 3 years ago
300k new
n9233f 2 years ago
Would that be a Hughes 500 engine by any chance?
Afrocanook 3 years ago
title says Allison 250... I'm no expert on jet engines at all, but my guess is it's an allison.
bullzisnipr3 3 years ago
The Hughes 500 is a type of American Helicopter. This is definitely a helicopter engine.
Afrocanook 3 years ago
and thus my inadequate amount of education regarding jet engines comes forth, lol
bullzisnipr3 3 years ago
Your exactly right, it is the same turbine engine used in the Bell 206B-III and a sweet engine at that.
greg8698 3 years ago
it's interesting the microphone pics up a lot more high pitch sounds than the human ear (or at least it seems so)
Zoloft61 3 years ago
I'd say it only picks up much less bass than the human ear
simusfr 3 years ago
It's harmonics...
nickthesafe 2 years ago
i still like the Arrius 2F better :P
any turbo shaft engine rocks though.
504hp with 210 pounds.
r44pilot 3 years ago
do you go to AIM?
DirtyPee 3 years ago
i went to redstone institute. aim took over the school when redstone closed.
AxManMunky 3 years ago
Figured!! I go to AIM in Indianapolis. We have the same engine.
DirtyPee 3 years ago
All aviation schools have the same demo engine. (and stand)
When my school closed, I bought that engine for a hundred bucks.
God damn george bush. fucking up the country from every angle.!!
Mapanatl 3 years ago
Mapanatl, don't complain about President G.W. Bush. It's said, he was elected in a nearly democratic procedure, so you deserve him.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
it was a nearly democratic procedure, so ... we nearly deserve him !
cybernickx 3 years ago
cybernicks, oil industry will everyday lick his toes (maybe all his holes too) to thank him for the high oil prices.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
i like that comment made me lol. i have an isotov 350 bye the way nice engine
1BORNTOSING 3 years ago
Nice I'm tearing one down right now!
thugblaster303 4 years ago
Nice, we have one of these at my A and P school. It's light enough for 1 or 2 people to lift.
scubastevedan 4 years ago
pity its on the engine stand... saw one of these in the MTT Y2K Bike, and wanted one ever since.... (was thinking more austin mini)
MadBiker77 4 years ago
Is that the one used in the Y2K? seems a little large...
kartkid100 4 years ago
This is not the engine used in a Y2K
sswemmer 4 years ago
Hello. This is the engine used in the Y2K Motorcycle sswemmer has no idea what he is talking about.
scuferrari 3 years ago
You're right; I only work with Pratt & Whitney power plants, not R.R.'s.
sswemmer 3 years ago
This turbine is more fuel efficiency than a conventional piston engine for the same horsepower?
thiago497150 4 years ago
No it is not, but it is more reliable and has considerably less weight.
th67ip 4 years ago
also pretty much no movin parts for (unlike the piston engine) so less gravity actin on the parts
dempas 4 years ago
thiago497150, you are wrong here. Gas turbines
(GT) are less efficient, but power/weight ratio is much better. (Energy in hot exhaust gases is wasted!) You can either make a turbofan configuration with a high bypass ratio to lower EGT, or couple a steam turbine on the same shaft. Latter engine type achives efficiencies up to 60% and would be perfect for hybrid cars. Since this would offend oil industry, nobody ever will bring it to market. :-(
sacha4you 3 years ago
Thanks for this explanation
thiago497150 3 years ago
You are welcome.
sacha4you 3 years ago
sacha:
actuallly, the Oil companies are too busy supplying all they can pump to India and China besides US to those industrial markets.
NOW, I don't think they care if Civilians find alternative fuel sources.
besides Today NOTHING can be kept secret.
Oil companies Can not stop millions of projects for Alternative fuel sources.
Mapanatl 3 years ago
Mapanatl, neither physics, nor technology can kept secret. However, lobbyists can convince politics to not introduce a technology. E.g. google for '+Sandia +"Linear transformer Driver"', w/o single quotes. You will run into a (fully scalable!) high yield, hyperspace pulsed plasma fusion reactor system, that can even create electricity from fusion. A car would consume a few grams of Boron and H2 - for it's lifetime. You can build it, but car industry won't, as long as
oil is a business.
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
the jet ranger has one allison 250 engine.
hoffinmichhoff 4 years ago
I wonder what would happend if i installed one of thoes in an old East german Trabbant?
Soehave 4 years ago
It'd probably make less smoke! No mixing oil/gas (unless the Trabbie uses oil injection...)!
sortashaman 4 years ago
It would tear it a new asshole!
alimon4142 4 years ago 2
raresnetboy; yes this is the engine used on the MTT Y2K turbine bike. MTT and other people have also used this engine on boats and other vehicles as well; there's even one video here of a Datsun (Nissan) 280Z with this engine as well.
Most common aircraft usage I know of is in a Bell Jetranger helicoptor.
yuandrew 4 years ago
Thanks for the info. I have a design/project that requires 2 small turbines.
PELICANOCHILENO 4 years ago
Is this the one they have on the Y2K bikes?!
raresnetboy 5 years ago
Nice vid! Just a small correction on the comment below, this is the Allison 250 engine, however it's the C18 model with 317shp, the new C20 model does have 400shp.
TurbineJesse 5 years ago
its hard to believe that the A250 has over 400SHP for its size. A truly remarkable innovation by Allison. Thanks for the video
velocityflier16 5 years ago
wait Allison as in the transmission thats in my 2004 GMC Sierra?
FORDGTFANATIC 4 years ago
The Allison Company that makes turbines is a different company than the Allison that makes your transmission
velocityflier16 4 years ago
i was about to say
FORDGTFANATIC 4 years ago