For all Jewish, Christian, and Islamic logical well respected minds. Lets put the emotional aspect of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict on the side. Lets start with the typical scientific method of analysis. an observation: " Israeli army enters Gaza Strips and blocks all methods of entry and exit Results: "At least Between 1,166 and 1,417 Palestinians were killed More than 400,000 Gazans were left without running water, while 4,000 homes were destroyed " Conclusion: obvious of injustice......
You are 100% correct. Israeli army did not enter Gaza for the fun of it. They entered Gaza because they wanted to probably destroy as much as they can at a time when the whole world was busy with the U.S elections "check the time frame of Gaza U.S elecions". Also, Richard J. Goldstone a jew himself criticized the way Israel operated. These are facts.
I am with you 100% as far as the Israelis destroying the Gaza infrastructure. However, You know I thought jewish culture and civilization in general always respected the true aspect of education. I feel sorry fo you for not being an educated individual since only an uneducated human would consider destroying a Gazan school and hospital funded by the U.N to be considered a terror infrastructure. Good luck with your vocabulary. I would suggest going back to school and learning the definitions!!
You are correct 100%. Israeli Terror should be the ones to be blamed.Sadly speaking, the blending process of the Palestinian community with all its political agenda within each other in the Gaza strip as a result feeling secure during the treaty of which Israelis chose to neglect caused civilians deaths and the war on Gaza therefore, did not distunguish between any of the Gaza population. life in Gaza in the peace time israelis neglected was secure. Basic life infrastructure began to emerge.
As far as I can recall ,it was Hamas who sent suicidal bombers to explode in various Israeli buses ,restaurants ,dance clubs ,malls... and aim to murder as many Israelis as possible.
But they're Israelis so their blood doesn't count ,right?
Your right, blood count is extremely important in identifying the course of action and knowing who is right and who is wrong. Well I feel sorry for the Palestinians who initially put the blood count behind them and decided as cooperative group including all their different political approaches to disregard the Palestinian blood count deaths that occured through Israeli forces. I hope you are ready to listen, learn as the following may seem a little bit of disturbing Israeli terror began here:
Balad al-Shaykh massacre 31st of December 1947, around 600 innocent Palestinians dead. The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948 360 Palestinian villagers, including women and children, were killed. Abushuha Massacre Killed took place 05/13/1948 about 60 deaths of Palestinian men and women, the elderly and children. Tantura massacre took place on the night between the 22nd and 23rd of May 1948. The massacre that left more than 90 people were buried in a large hole in the cemetery.
Qalqilya massacre occurred in October 10, 1953 More than 70 martyrs were killed. Qibya massacre occurred in 10/14/1953 killing 69 Palestinians while many of them were hiding in their homes, which were detonated.45houses Have been demolished including one school and a mosque. The Kafr Qasim massacre took place on October 29, 1956 resulted in 48 Palestinian civilians dead, including 6 women and 23 children aged 8-17.
The massacre of Khan Younis took place 11/12/1956. This massacre resulted in the killing of more than 250 Palestinians. After nine days of the first massacre which was 11/21/1956, the Israeli army carried another massacre and other atrocities that killed nearly 275 Palestinian civilian and killed more than a hundred other Palestinian residents in an adjacent refugee camp called Rafah on the same day
I cant go through all history because its too much for you too comprehend, but Hatred?, hmm that rings a bell, typical scenario: Palestinians keep their promises through the Peace process. Israelis violate the process "94 to 2000 continuation of Israeli settlements despite the peace process, then hamas comes and offers a treaty and Israel rejects". Conclusion: Hatred obvious by Israelis. During the otthoman empire jews were respected in the region.and that was way way back before the 1900's.
FROM PALESTINEREMEMBERED WESBITE, Israelis have a hidden empathy to what Palestinians have experienced for the past 60 years. In my opinion, this is a proof that this conflict isn't only a colonial conflict over lands, but most importantly it's a conflict about the national identity which is connected to the land. Deep at heart, every Israeli Jew suspects that the Zionist narrative to be farce.However,
Interesting, so Yasser Arafat, with no allies and no power, is condemed to get the Nobel Prize, but Yitzhak Rabin, the fifth prime minister of Israel's peace nobel price was acceptable? Interesting to pinpoint that a Jewish Historian Professor Ilan Pappé who tought in the middle of Israel cities in the University of Haifa have written about The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and how he viewed the contributions of Yitzhak Rabin toward the Palestinian cleansing, Yet you insist to disregard facts!!
Even all the palestinian politicians and groups and every human being does not support suicidal bombings. That is a given, This is why palestinian politicians and groups along with jimmy carter U,S presedent decided to best make a peace treaty with Israel. A treaty which Israel violated by entering Gaza. I hope you can finally now get the puzzle solved!!!
Why doesn't Hamas do anything to progress the Peace process with Israel?
How can you say "Even all the palestinian politicians and groups and every human being does not support suicidal bombings" ,when the Palestinian groups are the ones who committed these terrorist attacks?
Can't you see you are lying to yourself?
And your note about my vocabulary goes back at you now... Are you getting too tired?
Please make your horizon a little bit wider. This is not about Hamas, This is about the Palestinians right to live just like all humans in the word. Palestinian groupds are willing to sarcifice and stop their struggle with the Israeli army if Israel itself respects the pease process, I have nothing further to say, You are going in circles. Good luck in finding whats right and wrong, Take care
I don't understand how come you say "Palestinian groups are willing to sarcifice and stop their struggle with the Israeli army" ,when every other day I hear of a new Palestinian terrorist group.
Go back to school, physics third law ''To every action "Israeli continuation of destroying schools, houses, mosques, land, prisoning innocent civilians etc" there is always an and opposite reaction "an attempt of Palestinians to rightfully defend themselves.": Note I have removed from the phrase "opposite reaction" the word equal, hence the damage of Israelis close to infinity far exceeds the attempt by Palestinians to defend theimselves" Who are you fooling?
Your unjustified hatred towards all Palestinians led you to the famous jewish trap proverb: "A half-truth is a whole lie". Sadly seaking, your sayings are barely half the truth. they are ZERO the truth. So, israel continued to consider Fateh terrorists until they accepted the peace lie which Israel created.Now Israel is doing the same peace lie with other Palestinian groups just to buy time. Also, even innocent civilians are not even allowed to visit their land during seasonal agriculture.
From your perpsective Palestinians do not exist, so that is a given. How can I define for your something you do not agree upon. It just would not work
ISRAELI PROVERB "Do not ask questions of fairy tales" summarizes the Palestinians options in the Israeli conflict. They are told to accept a phony peace process violated always by Israel, They are asked to simply shut their mouths even though ISRAEL intends to remove all highway arabic signals in ISRAEL, They are asked to accept to visit their land once every year for agriculture purposes. They are asked not to question Israeli authorities for not letting their fifa soccer team participate in
Palestinian soccer team prevented from leaving their land and playing a prequalifications for world cup 2010. How can you possibly coordinate their playing with terror. American Palestinians not treated with respect when visiting Israel. Stealing water resources and land constantly fromthe west bank. Interesting to see Israeli army attacks the Palestinians yet dares to use the terror old fashion card, when they have indeed attacked every single possible source of life in Palestine!! wow!!!!!!!!
"How can you possibly coordinate their playing with terror" ,you ask?
Unfortunately ,Palestinians have found many creative ways to abuse the western innocence for terror. Ambulances ,for examples. I do not know the details about this soccer team ,but statistically ,you have to agree that out of 10 Palestinians there are 6 who support Hamas (based on the 2006 elections).
Now ,you will also have to agree some of the supporters ,are those who are willing to explode themselves ,just to murder as many Israelis as they can.
Can you try and understand now why Israel is limiting the Palestinians?
So, playing dirty targeting civilians as you indicate is uncivilized, but Israels same action with Palestinians is okay, and Palestinians almost 95% with very few exceptions only defending and never attacking is unjustified, Peace is violated by Israel, Life and economy blockade by Israel acceptable. What is your solution?
Egypt and Palestine have a friendly relation ship with a few misunderstandings just as the rest of the Countries have few misunderstandings with each other. I see no problem from that perspective
We all know Israel has the upper hand in any borders involving the Palestinian. Please stop making it as if Egypt is the problem. We all know anything that goes in Israel and out of Israel is controlled by Israel, You know last year, when I went onto a visit to Palestine, I had alot of Andies, Receies Pecies, Skittles, Hot cheetoes, cloth, pants, laptop and I had to stay in the security point for hours and hours!!
I am very sorry to hear about your incident ,assuming you really meant no harm to anyone.
But do you know since the terror attacks that begun around Oslo agreements ,every Israeli mall ,restaurant ,public place ,has a security person that checks in everybody's bags?
Do you know that Israeli train stations have x-ray machines for thepassangers' baggage?
Yes ,just like in airports!
Yet ,no one complains about the inconvenience because they all know ,it's for their own security.
So, regulating daily life activity and security even in buses in Israel is 100% okay, but for Palestinians having a defense mechanism and having a typical police patrol unit to maintain population security is not okay? This does not make sense at all!
I love your responses, you say 6/10 support Hamas. Obviously, since Israel is targeting Hamas as you indicate, this means it is targeting close to 60% of the population, a two third cleansing of the Palestinian population "complete hatred as well as so called democracy of Israeli ideology down the drain".Also, I simply request an answer on to why Israel did not give Hamas, according to your sayings, the vast majority of Palestinians opinion, a chance with the peace treaty which Israel violated
Cleansing, limitation, all are interchangable one leads to the other. Also, U,S with all its resources with no human limitations, is suffering from an economic depression. How can you expect a population limited by 60% to even break even? Also, Israel has nucleur weapons and defense mechanism, so does U.S and rest of the world. If Israel wants to declare Palestine a country, it simply can not be without the basic structure of defense. Now attack mode is wrong, but at least being able to defend!!
So, you did not answer my question, how can a country be established without a defense mechanism. You know our human body has a strong cellular and humoral immune body triggeting Tcells and B cells to protect us from infections. You can see how AIDS progresses when the immune system is destroyed. Thats how a country would be with no defense mechanism. I can not imagine Israel without defense. It simply will not last. My question to you my friend is how can Palestine "a country last without it?"
"In the West Bank city of Qalqilyah, a Palestinian police officer working with Israeli police on a joint patrol opened fire and killed his Israeli counterpart Supt. Yosef Tabeja, an Israel Border Police officer."
The Palestinian Police was established as part of the Oslo agreements.
Israel had the same thought in mind ,but eventually this force was used to murder on a joint patrol!
Lets not forget the total deaths by Israeli army killing Palestinians listed before as well as the following: Yaser Arafat, the Palestinian president could not get out his own territory in Ramallah becuase of Israeli army. Israeli army jeep kills Palestinian student in West Bank in 2009. Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings. I can go on and on. Palestine has its right to have defense and if Israel does not give the Palestinian groups a peace treaty, Israel would be threatening its own self.
Yasser Arafat was held in Ramallah ,only after the 2nd Intifada began. On his orders. Until then he was able to move freely in Gaza and Judea and Samaria's Palestinian territories.
Speaking of Arafat ,did Suha eventually return all the money he stole from the Palestinians for his own good?
And what about Gazan graffiti on the wall ,that mock Gilad Shalit?
Not to mention a bunch of Palestinians that were documented inside an Israeli prison running a play ,that mock Gilad Shalit.
Palestine has its right to have defense ,but not on the cost of Israelis security.
Since until now every weapon given to the PA was used against Israelis (mostly civilians) ,you have to agree that giving more weapons will not end the war...
How long u are hidden all the real facts. How long can u bury your head in the sand and do not blame the real Arabs who hit you really... radical Islam.
Every action you do or what you say can not keep the fact..the all real terrorists are Muslim..
The Palestinians had lots of chances for peace starting at 48 when they were offered a state but they chose violence which is exactly what they are choosing ever since.
And b.t.w the Jews were in Israel all along the history, which is not something that you can say on the Americans and America(especially not on "New Mexico")
It is sad that Ehud Olmert's speech was interrupted with more disrespect while deprived of the basic courtesy to make his presentation to a greater extent than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's presentation at Columbia University. It is a pitiful demonstration of the total loss of perspective, intellectual and academic integrity that our University's and Students suffer. Quite disheartening...
one more thing if these guys who was shouting while olmert is talkin are stupid why do the whole world will arrest him if he went to them !! coz hes TERRORIST .. OLMERT IS THE TERRORIST AND PALESTINE WILL BE FREE SOON BECAUSE ALLAH ( GOD ) IS WITH US
wow we have hear a man who has no basic knowledge in history, filled with logic fallasies, trying to teach other people history... man, you have no idea what you are talking about... i looked in your antisimetic website and its filled with nonesense and fallasies like all holocause deniars "claims"... get realistic... get a therapist... many people have discussed the holocause and no "claim" ever stood up because you are using false propagnda and thats not the way sciense works.. 2 bad 4 u.
it s true that the arabs and the persians are semites, however today the word semite is mainly used to deifne jews.
ashkenazi jews started looking like europeans after they left israel 2000 years ago. hence i guess the ashkenazi jews might not be genetically semite but they remain labeled as semite.
LOL! its funny that one can deny an event that no historian can beg to differ on, and the evidence are beond overwhelming in favor of what really happened, and at the same time think that there was a "christ" HAHAHAHA... jesus is a mythological figure and never existed:]
thats funny due to the fact that hebrew and aramic are semitic laguages:] also lets state the obvious fact for an educated person (which you clearly arent) that "semitic" is formed from the word "shem" - name in hebrew.
not to mention the fact that the jewish and other semitic ancient people originated from southwestern asia... as states well with our acheological evidence from that era... but we dont wanna confuse a holocaust denier with facts do we?
Hahahahaha you are one twisted son of a bitch:) tell that to my grandmother with the number on her forarm... or maybe its a tatoo she and other hundreds of thousends of jews decided to do... im not gonna even argue with you.. you are sick and you need help:\
That alone should prove to u that there is something wrong..the number is 20% btw, and its because those 20% werent forcefully removed from their homes in the 1940s. the rest are sitting in refugee camps all accross the arab world
there was a big movement of population caused by the war (started by the arabs). like during any war. the fact that they remained in refugee camps and didnt develop cities or towns is not israel s fault.
as mrheryou said, what does israel has to do with the fact that 5 arab countries tried to eliminiate it's existence from the ground, after rightfully returning to their father's homeland and after 2000 years of pogroms, massacares and holocaust, and DID NOT SUCCEED? why didnt ANY arab so called palestinian friendly country ever gave the palestinians homes in their territory after they ran from their houses? same for why "black september" happened - israel gives more shit than alot others do.
zionism is the the will or the ideology that the jews should have (or deserve to have) a country of their own. i think many people dont actually know that
so, as israel is the country of the jews since 1948, a zionist will simply believe that the state should remain a state of and for the jews and should be defended from external aggressors.
this being said, more than 15% of israelis are not jewish. the same cannot be said about any arab country.
YUVALCARMEL , if there is 1 solider hijacked .. we have more than 10,000 palestinian in israeli prisons.. but MAKE SURE WE WILL WON FINALLY COZ THIS WAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.. PALESTINE WILL REMAIN SO WHATEVER HAPPENED..
I didnt claim they were innocent, but a charge like throwing a rock at an armored vehicle. WHAT A MURDEROUS CRIME! Sir, theres a difference between a Jew and a zionist, just want to point that out to you. A zionist is a racist nazi, who likes to see palestinian blood, like olmert for instance..A Jew doesnt..
I've heard of some cases in which ,before they threw their stones or exploded in Israeli buses they ask "Is there anyone here who isn't a Zionist or Jewish? Please step out ,as we don't want to harm you"
And then I woke up to reality.
BTW ,regarding "A zionist is a racist nazi, who likes to see palestinian blood" ,where did you make this stuff up from?
Ever heard of the Ramallah lynch?
Who was that joyful crowd there to the sight of Israeli blood?
YOUSEFARMAN89 .. I love you because you've posted this .. and please keep going .. and we are all with you in every country in the world... nothing called Isreal . ITS PALESTINE >>> AND WILL REMAIN SO
History also teaches us that the concept of "kingdom" or "state" didn't exist in certain lands at certain times. History also teaches us, that the Native Americas lives in the Americas before the Europeans. History also tells us, that once, Rome ruled most the world.
o yeah the world is blind. those darn civilian newborns, children, mothers, and fathers are evil evil people that deserved what came to them. What were they thinking just home being harmless. Are you listening to yourself, you heartless dog. Get your facts straight before you talk.
his land and my land has been there long before the jews entered it, Canaan...look it up even in the old testament, Moses tried leading them in and they refused...because there was a people there before them...thanks for the reference to Canaan good sir.
YOUSEFARMAN89 even if you didnt post this .. its known that OLMERT is the terrorist and his ass will be kicked out of palestine soon.. FREE GAZA AND FREE PALESTINE
Palestine... The Israeli and Palestinian leader should agree of what this land's borders are ,and then it will be free.
For some reason most Palestinian organizations claim all of Israel's territories are actually Palestinian territories ,while most Israeli leaders agree on the 1967 border line (give or take).
I am looking forward that there will be a palestinian country whom we can be in peace with. i hope that reason and rationalism will overcome paranoia, superstiton and religion fundementalism, so we will not have to be afraid anymore although it seems unrealistic with islamofacism rising up. nevertheless, you are not speaking on behalf of all israelis LionXr7.
Who wants peace and who wants war? who was attacked for the last 60 years and who defended himself?
judea is a biblical word that u use, we can do the same i can call that land any word i want..that is an illogical argument. i can call it Muslimia!! sounds familiar doesnt it?
Judea is mentioned in the bible... you can call it whatever you want but the refrence goes to the bible which is kind of older that your use of the word "muslimia" - two minutes ago...
The point is that you dont recognize our right for a country while we do... what about that mr. i tried to destroy your country and didnt succeed so i moan and whip while i abuse human rights on daily basis?
What a load of crap. Jews have so many proofs that this land belongs to them, starting from the fact that although most of the Israel immigrants, some never left Israel and leaved forever. The next proof is the bible. Also, although they are Christians, they will tell you that Jesus was a Jew, born in Israel (named Judea back then). What history has the Palestinians to offer? There ware no more than 60,000 Arabs century ago, most of them are Bedouins coming from Saudi Arab.
our goal isn't to overtake anything, our goal is to get back our rights, our Palestinian Rights to defend ourselve, as well as getting back the land that was,and still remains ours. i want to beable to go to school without the harrasment of 25 israeli personal. you try it just for one day
the only ignorant people are you damn israelis who think they have a right to take over. We palestinians never said not to anything. Palestine is ours and will always be ours. keep ignorance out of this discussion please...Islam is not even an issue here...this is about people. PEOPLE. Palestinians who are dying for your selfishness...LONG LIVE PALESTINE!
Hahahahaha arabic palestine NEVER EXISTED... arabs refused to recognize israel and refuse to accept their own state for the last 60 years... hammas wants all of israel and the death of every israeli... thats how moral you are, and thats what would have happend if hammas was in israel's position - all of israelies would be slaughtered in a week. not 1300 that most of them are terrorists - ALL.
You Palestine s don't say no, you just shoot rockets or blow a bus as a negative answer. And you Palestine are always cry when Israel DEFENDS herself. In order to stop the mortars, we had to build a wall and it proves itself as mortars stopper, but now you all claim we are an apartheid regime (nothing on the cause of this wall). When you fire rockets at civilian house, schools and hospital for eight years, one short react of Israel and you are crying like a baby.
You are right (but that is only because you didn't have a UN representative ,at the time)
But the rest of the Arab world said no.
And when they saw it wasn't enough ,they started a war.
And when they have lost the war ,they let their poor Palestinians brothers rot in refugee camps with false promises to return to their homes. For over 60 years!
the movie fitnah good sir, is the biggest neo-con racist documentary, that is full of all kinds of propaganda. For you to reference a documentary of that nature makes you very much an "intellectual". DENYING ISRAELS RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF?!! that is not a legitimate claim to drop over 100 million tons of bombs in a 22 day time period over the biggest open air jail, a.k.a the Gaza Strip.
racist? neo-con? Hahaha... yeah, im sure that presenting quotes from the quoran an kitab is racist... 100 million tons of bombs? wow, that is hilarious... though unrealistic and based on... nothing? nevertheless, its funny that 1300 people were killed, most of them were terrorists from a "100 million tons of bombs", its either the iaf suck or they were avoiding civilian hits:)? i mean turkey bombs kurdish pkk with less amount of bombs and kills thousends more... how is that possible?
oh and about "the biggest open air jail" , two things:
1) Gaza was "open for business" after we left it in 2004, it didnt saticfy the islamosfacists, being the fact that they are committed to the ficticious allah, they wanted the whole waqf land and shoot rockets after we gave them their land back
2) its funny that the hamas can smuggle tons of weapons and rockets but not enough food and supplies for their people... but what can you excpect from people who hide among civilians and shoot at ones?
The "open air jail" is a terrorist nest. The jail smuggles unbelievable amount of explosive, ammunition, weapons and rockets, all are aimed at Israel. This "jail" was declining any peace proposal suggest by the murderous regime (killed hundreds of Fatah people just to show who runs the place) and by that holds almost one million poor people hostage instead of normalizing the relations with Israel and letting the poor people go to work and live in peace.
indeed. muslims are massacaring muslims every day in horrifying ways (beheading, throwing people off roofs, torturing etc) and no one gives a shit... but if israel defends itself? oh man its party time for propaganda people!
Yeah the Islamic Resistance Movement believs that. Just like the Zionist Movement Believes in building settlements all throughout my village. giving my people no right to build a single brick on our land handed down from our fourfathers. just like they isolate are cities into small countries and tourture our innocent civilians.come live on our side for one day, and see if you last
2-the Jews are the original people of this contry called Israel and not with the fake name you give it Palestine. palestine is a fairytale you grow up on like kids grow up on Santa Klaus.
the thing with the name is true but even if you ignore that, you can not ignore the fact that jewish people lived in this place thousends of years ago.. THERE ARE HISTORIC AND SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that is where THE JEWISH PEOPLE LIVED, and its too bad that even when most israeli people accept the idea of a palestinian state and their right for that, not so many palestinians (even so called moderates) do. not to mention Hammas neo-nazi organization that wants to extirminate us all.
We must stop the islamic terror in Israel and the rest of the world.The world didn't protest against Hitler actions and underestimated him and the holocost took place,we will not let this happen again by the Islam and the Palastinians.
israel is just the first stop - watch the movie "Fitnah" or "The last jihad" and see that they want to take all of the world and slaughter every "infidel" in the way. denying israel's right to defend itself is accepting terrorism and radical islam takeover... it will explode in europian and american face soon enough...
possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?
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that is from hamas covenant, an islamo facists human rights depressor, women abuser, homosexuals killer savage barbarian organization. THAT is for all of you who think they are so peaceful and want to share the land - they dont, they want to slaughter all non-muslims.
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab,
Leave it to Israel to critisize the UN REPORT GOLDSTONE WHO WENT INTO GAZA DID THE RESEARCH and FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF THEM HIDING BEHIND CHILDREN.. UN SCHOOLS AND SHELTERS WERE HIT..WE WERENT OFFERED LAND in 1948 THAT LAND WAS OURS WHICH HAGANAH TROOPS CAME FORCEFULLY TOOK US OUT OF OUR HOMES... LIES IS WHAT YOU SPREAD
Actually he did find... and he did write about that... also he complained yesterday about the statement that was only one-sided and didnt mention hamas's war crimes... the land wasnt "yours", because frankly, there was no "yours", there was arab minority, that came from jordan and syria and serveral countries and lived there. Arab minority was offered a country next to jewish country and they declined and opened war. the ATTACKERS lost the war and they cry about it until this day. funny huh?
with all due respect to the all the jews in the world, ANTI-ZIONISM IS ANTI NAZISM, NOT ANTI-SEMITISM, being an Anti-Zionist does not make me an Anti-Semite. 2) for a blood thirsty warmogner to speak about peace is unbelievably outrageous. If a man can manage to keep his sanity when he has the blood of 600 children on his hands, he is at the level of the devil, probably even lower. IDF is not moral, it is a terrorist gang that supresses its own soldiers from speaking against it...
1) Do you know what is Zionist? Zion is Israel. Zionist is a man that loves Israel and want to leave in Israel and make it prospered. It happens that most Jews are also Zionists. So one that is anti-Zionist would like to destroy Israel.
2) IDF is one of the moral armies in the world. This army need to fight impossible war against radical cowards named Hamas. Those cowards are hiding behind children, booby-trap civilians homes, fire rockets from civilians backyards.
how in the hell is killing civilians defending yourselves? the Isreali army is nothing but immoral. they invade our lands and expect us to allow them to the take everything and everone...Long live Palestine! Olmert as well as the israeli's actions are a disgrace to us all
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how in the hell is killing civilians defending yourselves? the Isreali army is nothing but immoral. they invade our lands and expect us to allow them to the take everything and everone...Long live Palestine! Olmert as well as the israeli's actions are a disgrace to us all
civilians? most of the terrorists that were killed in the just war in gaza were war criminals that were hiding among children and women. they are the predators of the world, islamo-facists, worlds most known human rights abusers. treating women like slaves, executing children, massacaring eachother for religious insane causes, stoning homosexuals, forbidding freedom of speech and so on. bunch of barbarians talking about disgrace - unbeliveable.
STOP MAKING THIS SEEM LIKES ITS A BATTLE OF THE LAST 8 YEARS. PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR DECADES. EVER SINCE THEY DAY THAT BOATS OF EUROPEAN JEWS WERE BEING BROUGHT INTO OUR LAND WE HAVE BEEN SUFFERING. Hamas is a resistance movenment created in the 1980s to end the Israeli Occupation of Palestine and end the aggression of the Israeli Defense forces on Palestinians. YOU CAME TOOK THE LAND THAT WASNT YOURS, THEN ENTRAPP US IN A OPEN AIR PRISON THEN REFUSE US THE RIGHT 2 DEFEND OURSELVES
Yeah, ofcourse palestines have been suffering for decades... they are poor fellas, who recognize israel as a legitimate state, have never suicide bombed on innocent civilians, never shot rockets at innocent children... never opened war in order to extirminate israel's existence... Ha Ha Ha. Not. infact, they have been doing all of that and the real "thieves" of the land are muslim occupiers from the seventh century... so dont give me the "stole our lands" crap. arabs are the immigrants.
i wanna ask any 1 in USA / Euro what they would after live 8 years after more than 5K miseles shot on them when aiming and intending to hit families in their houses, the palestinians terrorist o hamas tried 8 years to hit ppl in south israel and sometimes they succeeded.
i bet no other country in the world would have waited 8 years to react ? other nations probebly wipe out the other side if they fired rockets day after day (probebly wiped the offensive side after the 1st rocket).
The whole world will be sorry. one quarter of the world's population are muslims. quoran is a facist nazi book with instructions to take over the world, kill every infidel (among with homosexual, unmodestly dressed woman etc...) and they are doing a pretty good job. people are naive and kind of stupid, they buy the propaganda...
sir read it for your self, and dont buy into the propaganda, then you can speak about it...because that claim you are making is all propaganda. Thank you in advance for pointing out your own ignorance.
You haven't said anything to contradict nirmiz123 claims. There were actual rockets fired at Israel, there is an hijacked soldier. There are a lot of Israeli families was son, brother, mother or sister that was claim by Palestinian terror. I have a short question to you. The PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) lead by Arafat came to life in 1964, 3 years BEFORE Israel had Gaza and J&S. The question is, which Palestine Arafat was looking for? The answer is, he wanted the Jews to go away.
There was 70 million tons of bombs dropped in 22 days. There are over 10,000 Palestinian prisoners. THERE ARE OVER MILLIONS THAT DO NOT CLAIM, BUT HAVE LOST ENTIRE FAMILIES IN ONE NIGHT. The answer to your question sir is that the Palestinians are not to blame for what happened to them in Germany. My question is, what kind of country are the Zionists looking for...A pure "ZIONIST" state, no 'impure' Arab blood is allowed to exist, sound familiar? ARYAN RACE presented by NAZISM..
stupid antishemic- we all saw whatss happen to iran protestors
a new clear war is coming beaice of does arabs rats- you all will cry the day you let does arabd rats to get new clear bombd- you pray dor good live they pray to boming themself with you to get 70 virgins in heaven
Come on, Stop being blind, I am israeli, u can't and u wont be able to understand the feeling of beeing attacked every day, and of open the paper and read about gilad shalit, rockets being shot from gaza, a bus that exploded and 30 ppl got killed.
THE ISRAELI ARMY IS A MORAL ARMY.
those terrorits(hamas) are the killers of their own people, they shot rockets from childen schools, they use woman and children as human shield. how can we defend our self without hitting civillians...
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I'm glad Palestine has a voice without violence, aswell the Freedom Fighters (Now Global). I saw the video on the website and especially liked the Lady who stood up to say that he should say it to the International court ..and he should be in a cage not on stage, or words to that effect. Brilliant and JUST.
Yeah I've Seen Electronic Intifada's. I had an audio recording on my BlackBerry..i got up until i was kicked out.lol tried my best to stay long but i couldnt take it anymore. and the pleasure is mine i assure u
Glad to see that electronicIntifada wasn't the only one able to record this war criminal's lecture. The Electronic Intifada was only able to get about 7 minutes of footage before getting threatened.
watch?v=wgN02ZTe5AU
Impressed that you were able to even get an audio recording. Thank you.
For all Jewish, Christian, and Islamic logical well respected minds. Lets put the emotional aspect of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict on the side. Lets start with the typical scientific method of analysis. an observation: " Israeli army enters Gaza Strips and blocks all methods of entry and exit Results: "At least Between 1,166 and 1,417 Palestinians were killed More than 400,000 Gazans were left without running water, while 4,000 homes were destroyed " Conclusion: obvious of injustice......
armani5596 2 years ago
You seem to ignore the cause....
Why did IDF enter Gaza?
For the fun of it?
PRICK3 2 years ago
You are 100% correct. Israeli army did not enter Gaza for the fun of it. They entered Gaza because they wanted to probably destroy as much as they can at a time when the whole world was busy with the U.S elections "check the time frame of Gaza U.S elecions". Also, Richard J. Goldstone a jew himself criticized the way Israel operated. These are facts.
armani5596 2 years ago
"As much as they can" - No!
"As many terror infrastructures as they can" - Yes!
PRICK3 2 years ago
I am with you 100% as far as the Israelis destroying the Gaza infrastructure. However, You know I thought jewish culture and civilization in general always respected the true aspect of education. I feel sorry fo you for not being an educated individual since only an uneducated human would consider destroying a Gazan school and hospital funded by the U.N to be considered a terror infrastructure. Good luck with your vocabulary. I would suggest going back to school and learning the definitions!!
armani5596 2 years ago
If the school or hospital is being used by terrorists ,it will be destroyed.
Terrorists who use their surrounding population as human shields - they are the only ones to blame ,for any civilian casualties.
PRICK3 2 years ago
You are correct 100%. Israeli Terror should be the ones to be blamed.Sadly speaking, the blending process of the Palestinian community with all its political agenda within each other in the Gaza strip as a result feeling secure during the treaty of which Israelis chose to neglect caused civilians deaths and the war on Gaza therefore, did not distunguish between any of the Gaza population. life in Gaza in the peace time israelis neglected was secure. Basic life infrastructure began to emerge.
armani5596 2 years ago
You're fun :)
"Israeli terror" ,you say?
As far as I can recall ,it was Hamas who sent suicidal bombers to explode in various Israeli buses ,restaurants ,dance clubs ,malls... and aim to murder as many Israelis as possible.
But they're Israelis so their blood doesn't count ,right?
PRICK3 2 years ago
Your right, blood count is extremely important in identifying the course of action and knowing who is right and who is wrong. Well I feel sorry for the Palestinians who initially put the blood count behind them and decided as cooperative group including all their different political approaches to disregard the Palestinian blood count deaths that occured through Israeli forces. I hope you are ready to listen, learn as the following may seem a little bit of disturbing Israeli terror began here:
armani5596 2 years ago
Balad al-Shaykh massacre 31st of December 1947, around 600 innocent Palestinians dead. The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948 360 Palestinian villagers, including women and children, were killed. Abushuha Massacre Killed took place 05/13/1948 about 60 deaths of Palestinian men and women, the elderly and children. Tantura massacre took place on the night between the 22nd and 23rd of May 1948. The massacre that left more than 90 people were buried in a large hole in the cemetery.
armani5596 2 years ago
Qalqilya massacre occurred in October 10, 1953 More than 70 martyrs were killed. Qibya massacre occurred in 10/14/1953 killing 69 Palestinians while many of them were hiding in their homes, which were detonated.45houses Have been demolished including one school and a mosque. The Kafr Qasim massacre took place on October 29, 1956 resulted in 48 Palestinian civilians dead, including 6 women and 23 children aged 8-17.
armani5596 2 years ago
The massacre of Khan Younis took place 11/12/1956. This massacre resulted in the killing of more than 250 Palestinians. After nine days of the first massacre which was 11/21/1956, the Israeli army carried another massacre and other atrocities that killed nearly 275 Palestinian civilian and killed more than a hundred other Palestinian residents in an adjacent refugee camp called Rafah on the same day
armani5596 2 years ago
Wanna go through history?
Check 1929 and 1936-39 massacres.
And that was even before the Jewish country was established ,before the refugee camps ,so much hatred ,for what?
PRICK3 2 years ago
I cant go through all history because its too much for you too comprehend, but Hatred?, hmm that rings a bell, typical scenario: Palestinians keep their promises through the Peace process. Israelis violate the process "94 to 2000 continuation of Israeli settlements despite the peace process, then hamas comes and offers a treaty and Israel rejects". Conclusion: Hatred obvious by Israelis. During the otthoman empire jews were respected in the region.and that was way way back before the 1900's.
armani5596 2 years ago
Promises?
What promises?
The only thing Israelis got back since Oslo agreements ,are death ,death ,and some more death.
I don't think Yasser Arrafat got his Nobel prize for killing Israelis...
PRICK3 2 years ago
And one more thing...
Have you ever watched Hamas TV for kids?
That's pure hatred they teach the kids... Or shall I say ,the future terrorists.
PRICK3 2 years ago
FROM PALESTINEREMEMBERED WESBITE, Israelis have a hidden empathy to what Palestinians have experienced for the past 60 years. In my opinion, this is a proof that this conflict isn't only a colonial conflict over lands, but most importantly it's a conflict about the national identity which is connected to the land. Deep at heart, every Israeli Jew suspects that the Zionist narrative to be farce.However,
armani5596 2 years ago
"Deep at heart, every Israeli Jew suspects..."
So now Palestine remembered website is the spokesman of every Israeli Jew?
Nice.
PRICK3 2 years ago
I knew you were gonna love it.!! Ya I know its nice. sad, but true
armani5596 2 years ago
Let me update you.
Nobody speaks on my behalf.
PRICK3 2 years ago
Well accepted and respected
armani5596 2 years ago
Interesting, so Yasser Arafat, with no allies and no power, is condemed to get the Nobel Prize, but Yitzhak Rabin, the fifth prime minister of Israel's peace nobel price was acceptable? Interesting to pinpoint that a Jewish Historian Professor Ilan Pappé who tought in the middle of Israel cities in the University of Haifa have written about The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and how he viewed the contributions of Yitzhak Rabin toward the Palestinian cleansing, Yet you insist to disregard facts!!
armani5596 2 years ago
You seem to be doing the same ,Youssef.
By the way ,next time you upload a video ,don't lose your password ,it does not look well.
Do you support suicidal bombings?
PRICK3 2 years ago
Even all the palestinian politicians and groups and every human being does not support suicidal bombings. That is a given, This is why palestinian politicians and groups along with jimmy carter U,S presedent decided to best make a peace treaty with Israel. A treaty which Israel violated by entering Gaza. I hope you can finally now get the puzzle solved!!!
armani5596 2 years ago
Why doesn't Hamas do anything to progress the Peace process with Israel?
How can you say "Even all the palestinian politicians and groups and every human being does not support suicidal bombings" ,when the Palestinian groups are the ones who committed these terrorist attacks?
Can't you see you are lying to yourself?
And your note about my vocabulary goes back at you now... Are you getting too tired?
PRICK3 2 years ago
Please make your horizon a little bit wider. This is not about Hamas, This is about the Palestinians right to live just like all humans in the word. Palestinian groupds are willing to sarcifice and stop their struggle with the Israeli army if Israel itself respects the pease process, I have nothing further to say, You are going in circles. Good luck in finding whats right and wrong, Take care
armani5596 2 years ago
I don't understand how come you say "Palestinian groups are willing to sarcifice and stop their struggle with the Israeli army" ,when every other day I hear of a new Palestinian terrorist group.
PRICK3 2 years ago
Go back to school, physics third law ''To every action "Israeli continuation of destroying schools, houses, mosques, land, prisoning innocent civilians etc" there is always an and opposite reaction "an attempt of Palestinians to rightfully defend themselves.": Note I have removed from the phrase "opposite reaction" the word equal, hence the damage of Israelis close to infinity far exceeds the attempt by Palestinians to defend theimselves" Who are you fooling?
armani5596 2 years ago
Exactly.
Unequal.
Palestinian terrorists aiming Israeli civilians.
Israeli army aiming Palestinian terrorists which are hiding among their people.
You know ,Newton's laws of motion ,work both ways.
PRICK3 2 years ago
Your unjustified hatred towards all Palestinians led you to the famous jewish trap proverb: "A half-truth is a whole lie". Sadly seaking, your sayings are barely half the truth. they are ZERO the truth. So, israel continued to consider Fateh terrorists until they accepted the peace lie which Israel created.Now Israel is doing the same peace lie with other Palestinian groups just to buy time. Also, even innocent civilians are not even allowed to visit their land during seasonal agriculture.
armani5596 2 years ago
When you say "all Palestinians"...
Can you define exactly who is a Palestinian?
PRICK3 2 years ago
From your perpsective Palestinians do not exist, so that is a given. How can I define for your something you do not agree upon. It just would not work
armani5596 2 years ago
What make you think Palestinians do not exist from my perspective?
PRICK3 2 years ago
ISRAELI PROVERB "Do not ask questions of fairy tales" summarizes the Palestinians options in the Israeli conflict. They are told to accept a phony peace process violated always by Israel, They are asked to simply shut their mouths even though ISRAEL intends to remove all highway arabic signals in ISRAEL, They are asked to accept to visit their land once every year for agriculture purposes. They are asked not to question Israeli authorities for not letting their fifa soccer team participate in
armani5596 2 years ago
Palestinian soccer team prevented from leaving their land and playing a prequalifications for world cup 2010. How can you possibly coordinate their playing with terror. American Palestinians not treated with respect when visiting Israel. Stealing water resources and land constantly fromthe west bank. Interesting to see Israeli army attacks the Palestinians yet dares to use the terror old fashion card, when they have indeed attacked every single possible source of life in Palestine!! wow!!!!!!!!
armani5596 2 years ago
"How can you possibly coordinate their playing with terror" ,you ask?
Unfortunately ,Palestinians have found many creative ways to abuse the western innocence for terror. Ambulances ,for examples. I do not know the details about this soccer team ,but statistically ,you have to agree that out of 10 Palestinians there are 6 who support Hamas (based on the 2006 elections).
PRICK3 2 years ago
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PRICK3 2 years ago
Now ,you will also have to agree some of the supporters ,are those who are willing to explode themselves ,just to murder as many Israelis as they can.
Can you try and understand now why Israel is limiting the Palestinians?
PRICK3 2 years ago
So, playing dirty targeting civilians as you indicate is uncivilized, but Israels same action with Palestinians is okay, and Palestinians almost 95% with very few exceptions only defending and never attacking is unjustified, Peace is violated by Israel, Life and economy blockade by Israel acceptable. What is your solution?
armani5596 2 years ago
Blockade?
Why don't the Gazans have any complains towards Egypt?
PRICK3 2 years ago
Egypt and Palestine have a friendly relation ship with a few misunderstandings just as the rest of the Countries have few misunderstandings with each other. I see no problem from that perspective
armani5596 2 years ago
Did you just say you are ok with Rafah being closed ,but not with "Nitzan" being closed?
Weird...
PRICK3 2 years ago
We all know Israel has the upper hand in any borders involving the Palestinian. Please stop making it as if Egypt is the problem. We all know anything that goes in Israel and out of Israel is controlled by Israel, You know last year, when I went onto a visit to Palestine, I had alot of Andies, Receies Pecies, Skittles, Hot cheetoes, cloth, pants, laptop and I had to stay in the security point for hours and hours!!
armani5596 2 years ago
I am very sorry to hear about your incident ,assuming you really meant no harm to anyone.
But do you know since the terror attacks that begun around Oslo agreements ,every Israeli mall ,restaurant ,public place ,has a security person that checks in everybody's bags?
Do you know that Israeli train stations have x-ray machines for thepassangers' baggage?
Yes ,just like in airports!
Yet ,no one complains about the inconvenience because they all know ,it's for their own security.
PRICK3 2 years ago
So, regulating daily life activity and security even in buses in Israel is 100% okay, but for Palestinians having a defense mechanism and having a typical police patrol unit to maintain population security is not okay? This does not make sense at all!
armani5596 2 years ago
You missed my point.
Palestinians had their Palestinian Police ,until their guns were pointed at Israelis.
Not as a defensive act.... but purely offensive ,on a joint patrol!
PRICK3 2 years ago
I love your responses, you say 6/10 support Hamas. Obviously, since Israel is targeting Hamas as you indicate, this means it is targeting close to 60% of the population, a two third cleansing of the Palestinian population "complete hatred as well as so called democracy of Israeli ideology down the drain".Also, I simply request an answer on to why Israel did not give Hamas, according to your sayings, the vast majority of Palestinians opinion, a chance with the peace treaty which Israel violated
armani5596 2 years ago
You are getting things all wrong ,Mister.
I did not talk of any cleansing.
I talked about limitations.
The peace treaty that was violated day in and day out by bringing more and more explosives and rockets into the strip ,you mean?
Well ,I wouldn't expect anyone to believe his neighbor means peace ,when he keeps on gaining more and more fire power.
That would be naive.
PRICK3 2 years ago
Cleansing, limitation, all are interchangable one leads to the other. Also, U,S with all its resources with no human limitations, is suffering from an economic depression. How can you expect a population limited by 60% to even break even? Also, Israel has nucleur weapons and defense mechanism, so does U.S and rest of the world. If Israel wants to declare Palestine a country, it simply can not be without the basic structure of defense. Now attack mode is wrong, but at least being able to defend!!
armani5596 2 years ago
Would you call Qassam rockets a defensive weapon?
Hahaha!
PRICK3 2 years ago
So, you did not answer my question, how can a country be established without a defense mechanism. You know our human body has a strong cellular and humoral immune body triggeting Tcells and B cells to protect us from infections. You can see how AIDS progresses when the immune system is destroyed. Thats how a country would be with no defense mechanism. I can not imagine Israel without defense. It simply will not last. My question to you my friend is how can Palestine "a country last without it?"
armani5596 2 years ago
Do you remember the Palestinian Police?
Taken from Wikipedia about the 2nd Intifada:
"In the West Bank city of Qalqilyah, a Palestinian police officer working with Israeli police on a joint patrol opened fire and killed his Israeli counterpart Supt. Yosef Tabeja, an Israel Border Police officer."
The Palestinian Police was established as part of the Oslo agreements.
Israel had the same thought in mind ,but eventually this force was used to murder on a joint patrol!
PRICK3 2 years ago
These joint patrols ,they were the point of Israeli-Palestinian co-operation. Until this murder.
So ,unless Israel can trust PA that its army will be defensive ,and not not offensive ,the PA will have no way to defend itself.
Would you give a gun to someone ,knowing he will point it at you?
And you still have to answer my questions about who is a Palestinian?
PRICK3 2 years ago
Lets not forget the total deaths by Israeli army killing Palestinians listed before as well as the following: Yaser Arafat, the Palestinian president could not get out his own territory in Ramallah becuase of Israeli army. Israeli army jeep kills Palestinian student in West Bank in 2009. Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings. I can go on and on. Palestine has its right to have defense and if Israel does not give the Palestinian groups a peace treaty, Israel would be threatening its own self.
armani5596 2 years ago
Yasser Arafat was held in Ramallah ,only after the 2nd Intifada began. On his orders. Until then he was able to move freely in Gaza and Judea and Samaria's Palestinian territories.
Speaking of Arafat ,did Suha eventually return all the money he stole from the Palestinians for his own good?
And what about Gazan graffiti on the wall ,that mock Gilad Shalit?
Not to mention a bunch of Palestinians that were documented inside an Israeli prison running a play ,that mock Gilad Shalit.
PRICK3 2 years ago
Palestine has its right to have defense ,but not on the cost of Israelis security.
Since until now every weapon given to the PA was used against Israelis (mostly civilians) ,you have to agree that giving more weapons will not end the war...
PRICK3 2 years ago
How long u are hidden all the real facts. How long can u bury your head in the sand and do not blame the real Arabs who hit you really... radical Islam.
Every action you do or what you say can not keep the fact..the all real terrorists are Muslim..
Too bad.
mottylev 2 years ago
The Palestinians had lots of chances for peace starting at 48 when they were offered a state but they chose violence which is exactly what they are choosing ever since.
And b.t.w the Jews were in Israel all along the history, which is not something that you can say on the Americans and America(especially not on "New Mexico")
So please, don't you lecture any body
sekerniv 2 years ago 2
It is sad that Ehud Olmert's speech was interrupted with more disrespect while deprived of the basic courtesy to make his presentation to a greater extent than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's presentation at Columbia University. It is a pitiful demonstration of the total loss of perspective, intellectual and academic integrity that our University's and Students suffer. Quite disheartening...
zgordon22 2 years ago
Funny ,how could Moses look like a Palestinian when the Palestinian nation was made up only a bit more than 40 years ago?
PRICK3 2 years ago
one more thing if these guys who was shouting while olmert is talkin are stupid why do the whole world will arrest him if he went to them !! coz hes TERRORIST .. OLMERT IS THE TERRORIST AND PALESTINE WILL BE FREE SOON BECAUSE ALLAH ( GOD ) IS WITH US
zift123321 2 years ago
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"The yellow badge (or yellow patch)",
was first introduced in ISLAMIC countries
to subrogate jews,christians and bahai
from the local ISLAMIC population long before the NAZIS!
60% of the jews in israel ("mizrahi jews")
are refugees from ISLAMIC countries!
the first documented massacre in the holy land
is the Hebron massacre 1929.
google "Jewish exodus from Arab lands" "yellow badge" "plunder of Safed 1834" "Farhud" "Dhimmi" "Tiberias massacre"
MrJapaneseboy1111 2 years ago
wow we have hear a man who has no basic knowledge in history, filled with logic fallasies, trying to teach other people history... man, you have no idea what you are talking about... i looked in your antisimetic website and its filled with nonesense and fallasies like all holocause deniars "claims"... get realistic... get a therapist... many people have discussed the holocause and no "claim" ever stood up because you are using false propagnda and thats not the way sciense works.. 2 bad 4 u.
delirious2k3 2 years ago 3
sorry to hear people like you . i think that you are the one with no knowledge
brandonCHICAGO100 2 years ago
yes indeed... and a gym too:) to work out those healthy bodies...
delirious2k3 2 years ago
it s true that the arabs and the persians are semites, however today the word semite is mainly used to deifne jews.
ashkenazi jews started looking like europeans after they left israel 2000 years ago. hence i guess the ashkenazi jews might not be genetically semite but they remain labeled as semite.
mrheryou 2 years ago 3
LOL! its funny that one can deny an event that no historian can beg to differ on, and the evidence are beond overwhelming in favor of what really happened, and at the same time think that there was a "christ" HAHAHAHA... jesus is a mythological figure and never existed:]
delirious2k3 2 years ago
Remember who did the 9/11 bombings. Remember, and don't forget!
TheNorthernPole 2 years ago 2
no no no... they were SUMMER CAMPS... HahhHAhahAHa... crazy moron:]
delirious2k3 2 years ago
thats funny due to the fact that hebrew and aramic are semitic laguages:] also lets state the obvious fact for an educated person (which you clearly arent) that "semitic" is formed from the word "shem" - name in hebrew.
not to mention the fact that the jewish and other semitic ancient people originated from southwestern asia... as states well with our acheological evidence from that era... but we dont wanna confuse a holocaust denier with facts do we?
delirious2k3 2 years ago
Hahahahaha you are one twisted son of a bitch:) tell that to my grandmother with the number on her forarm... or maybe its a tatoo she and other hundreds of thousends of jews decided to do... im not gonna even argue with you.. you are sick and you need help:\
delirious2k3 2 years ago
A third world war 3... so that makes it... WW5?
kobykoby22 2 years ago
You dumb muslim shit. Olmert is not even in the government.
mikronator 2 years ago
what does that even mean? are you 8 years old?
mrheryou 2 years ago
and even more than 20%, i just checked (like the ratios in western countries)
mrheryou 2 years ago
That alone should prove to u that there is something wrong..the number is 20% btw, and its because those 20% werent forcefully removed from their homes in the 1940s. the rest are sitting in refugee camps all accross the arab world
yousefarman89 2 years ago
there was a big movement of population caused by the war (started by the arabs). like during any war. the fact that they remained in refugee camps and didnt develop cities or towns is not israel s fault.
mrheryou 2 years ago
as mrheryou said, what does israel has to do with the fact that 5 arab countries tried to eliminiate it's existence from the ground, after rightfully returning to their father's homeland and after 2000 years of pogroms, massacares and holocaust, and DID NOT SUCCEED? why didnt ANY arab so called palestinian friendly country ever gave the palestinians homes in their territory after they ran from their houses? same for why "black september" happened - israel gives more shit than alot others do.
delirious2k3 2 years ago
zionism is the the will or the ideology that the jews should have (or deserve to have) a country of their own. i think many people dont actually know that
so, as israel is the country of the jews since 1948, a zionist will simply believe that the state should remain a state of and for the jews and should be defended from external aggressors.
this being said, more than 15% of israelis are not jewish. the same cannot be said about any arab country.
mrheryou 2 years ago 2
i love you to! its the least we can do is act out against these cowards that call themselves leaders of Israel..
yousefarman89 2 years ago
why do you call them cowards?
mrheryou 2 years ago
WILL WIN*
zift123321 2 years ago
YUVALCARMEL , if there is 1 solider hijacked .. we have more than 10,000 palestinian in israeli prisons.. but MAKE SURE WE WILL WON FINALLY COZ THIS WAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.. PALESTINE WILL REMAIN SO WHATEVER HAPPENED..
zift123321 2 years ago
And I bet those 10,000 Palestinians are pure and innocent.
Oh ,they just wanted to MURDER some Jews ,that's not a crime...
PRICK3 2 years ago
I didnt claim they were innocent, but a charge like throwing a rock at an armored vehicle. WHAT A MURDEROUS CRIME! Sir, theres a difference between a Jew and a zionist, just want to point that out to you. A zionist is a racist nazi, who likes to see palestinian blood, like olmert for instance..A Jew doesnt..
miltownrepper 2 years ago
I've heard of some cases in which ,before they threw their stones or exploded in Israeli buses they ask "Is there anyone here who isn't a Zionist or Jewish? Please step out ,as we don't want to harm you"
And then I woke up to reality.
BTW ,regarding "A zionist is a racist nazi, who likes to see palestinian blood" ,where did you make this stuff up from?
Ever heard of the Ramallah lynch?
Who was that joyful crowd there to the sight of Israeli blood?
PRICK3 2 years ago
YOUSEFARMAN89 .. I love you because you've posted this .. and please keep going .. and we are all with you in every country in the world... nothing called Isreal . ITS PALESTINE >>> AND WILL REMAIN SO
zift123321 2 years ago
Interesting.
Because history teaches us that a kingdom called Israel existed here a couple of thousand years ago ,while a country called Palestine never existed.
PRICK3 2 years ago
History also teaches us that the concept of "kingdom" or "state" didn't exist in certain lands at certain times. History also teaches us, that the Native Americas lives in the Americas before the Europeans. History also tells us, that once, Rome ruled most the world.
History tells us a lot of things.
So what's your point?
DawahFilms 2 years ago
And I wonder the same... what is *your* point?
PRICK3 2 years ago
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o yeah the world is blind. those darn civilian newborns, children, mothers, and fathers are evil evil people that deserved what came to them. What were they thinking just home being harmless. Are you listening to yourself, you heartless dog. Get your facts straight before you talk.
bayanabad91 2 years ago
you are such a stupid man
and a liar too
what about moses
also wasn't a jaw?
jullianoar 2 years ago
his land and my land has been there long before the jews entered it, Canaan...look it up even in the old testament, Moses tried leading them in and they refused...because there was a people there before them...thanks for the reference to Canaan good sir.
miltownrepper 2 years ago
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bayanabad91 2 years ago
YOUSEFARMAN89 even if you didnt post this .. its known that OLMERT is the terrorist and his ass will be kicked out of palestine soon.. FREE GAZA AND FREE PALESTINE
zift123321 2 years ago
Gaza is free.
Palestine... The Israeli and Palestinian leader should agree of what this land's borders are ,and then it will be free.
For some reason most Palestinian organizations claim all of Israel's territories are actually Palestinian territories ,while most Israeli leaders agree on the 1967 border line (give or take).
PRICK3 2 years ago
I am looking forward that there will be a palestinian country whom we can be in peace with. i hope that reason and rationalism will overcome paranoia, superstiton and religion fundementalism, so we will not have to be afraid anymore although it seems unrealistic with islamofacism rising up. nevertheless, you are not speaking on behalf of all israelis LionXr7.
Who wants peace and who wants war? who was attacked for the last 60 years and who defended himself?
delirious2k3 2 years ago
judea is a biblical word that u use, we can do the same i can call that land any word i want..that is an illogical argument. i can call it Muslimia!! sounds familiar doesnt it?
yousefarman89 2 years ago
Judea is mentioned in the bible... you can call it whatever you want but the refrence goes to the bible which is kind of older that your use of the word "muslimia" - two minutes ago...
The point is that you dont recognize our right for a country while we do... what about that mr. i tried to destroy your country and didnt succeed so i moan and whip while i abuse human rights on daily basis?
delirious2k3 2 years ago
LOL.
You should have your own sitcom on TV!
PRICK3 2 years ago
What a load of crap. Jews have so many proofs that this land belongs to them, starting from the fact that although most of the Israel immigrants, some never left Israel and leaved forever. The next proof is the bible. Also, although they are Christians, they will tell you that Jesus was a Jew, born in Israel (named Judea back then). What history has the Palestinians to offer? There ware no more than 60,000 Arabs century ago, most of them are Bedouins coming from Saudi Arab.
yuvalcarmel 2 years ago
our goal isn't to overtake anything, our goal is to get back our rights, our Palestinian Rights to defend ourselve, as well as getting back the land that was,and still remains ours. i want to beable to go to school without the harrasment of 25 israeli personal. you try it just for one day
yousefarman89 2 years ago
Try going on a bus ,without the fear to explode. Just for a single day.
Try going to the mall ,without the fear to explode. Just for a single day.
Try eating at the restaurant ,without the fear to explode. Just for a single day.
Try going to a dance club ,without the fear to explode. Just for a single day.
Try having a normal way of life. For the rest of your life.
Both Israelis and Palestinians will enjoy ,whenever that day comes.
PRICK3 2 years ago
Try going to school without phosphourous bombs landing on your head, and burning you alive.
Try going to school and not being stripped naked.
Try going to work and not wait for 5 hours, even though its 5 km away.
Try living a normal way of life...sorry it cant happen, your a PALESTINIAN.
miltownrepper 2 years ago
people of usa tell me one thing.
if someone is going to blow ny and la and more places in ur country ull gonna sit and shut the fuck up????
or ull kill the terrorists that did it
u fucking two faces ....
A5F7 2 years ago 3
the only ignorant people are you damn israelis who think they have a right to take over. We palestinians never said not to anything. Palestine is ours and will always be ours. keep ignorance out of this discussion please...Islam is not even an issue here...this is about people. PEOPLE. Palestinians who are dying for your selfishness...LONG LIVE PALESTINE!
219Nemo 2 years ago
Hahahahaha arabic palestine NEVER EXISTED... arabs refused to recognize israel and refuse to accept their own state for the last 60 years... hammas wants all of israel and the death of every israeli... thats how moral you are, and thats what would have happend if hammas was in israel's position - all of israelies would be slaughtered in a week. not 1300 that most of them are terrorists - ALL.
delirious2k3 2 years ago
You Palestine s don't say no, you just shoot rockets or blow a bus as a negative answer. And you Palestine are always cry when Israel DEFENDS herself. In order to stop the mortars, we had to build a wall and it proves itself as mortars stopper, but now you all claim we are an apartheid regime (nothing on the cause of this wall). When you fire rockets at civilian house, schools and hospital for eight years, one short react of Israel and you are crying like a baby.
yuvalcarmel 2 years ago
"We palestinians never said not to anything"
You are right (but that is only because you didn't have a UN representative ,at the time)
But the rest of the Arab world said no.
And when they saw it wasn't enough ,they started a war.
And when they have lost the war ,they let their poor Palestinians brothers rot in refugee camps with false promises to return to their homes. For over 60 years!
Now ,isn't that a crime against humanity?
PRICK3 2 years ago
pitty that the world is blind to the real criminals. the muslims.
history in few decades once again will proove that Israel was right but then it will be to late.
in 25 years Europe is going to be muslim.
Hitler couldnt do it. they will. its called the quite war. Canda and Usa are going to be muslim in 50 years.
open your eyes while you bring 1-3 babies in 5-10 years the muslims double or triple it.
haimdov73 2 years ago 2
the movie fitnah good sir, is the biggest neo-con racist documentary, that is full of all kinds of propaganda. For you to reference a documentary of that nature makes you very much an "intellectual". DENYING ISRAELS RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF?!! that is not a legitimate claim to drop over 100 million tons of bombs in a 22 day time period over the biggest open air jail, a.k.a the Gaza Strip.
miltownrepper 2 years ago
racist? neo-con? Hahaha... yeah, im sure that presenting quotes from the quoran an kitab is racist... 100 million tons of bombs? wow, that is hilarious... though unrealistic and based on... nothing? nevertheless, its funny that 1300 people were killed, most of them were terrorists from a "100 million tons of bombs", its either the iaf suck or they were avoiding civilian hits:)? i mean turkey bombs kurdish pkk with less amount of bombs and kills thousends more... how is that possible?
delirious2k3 2 years ago 3
oh and about "the biggest open air jail" , two things:
1) Gaza was "open for business" after we left it in 2004, it didnt saticfy the islamosfacists, being the fact that they are committed to the ficticious allah, they wanted the whole waqf land and shoot rockets after we gave them their land back
2) its funny that the hamas can smuggle tons of weapons and rockets but not enough food and supplies for their people... but what can you excpect from people who hide among civilians and shoot at ones?
delirious2k3 2 years ago 2
The "open air jail" is a terrorist nest. The jail smuggles unbelievable amount of explosive, ammunition, weapons and rockets, all are aimed at Israel. This "jail" was declining any peace proposal suggest by the murderous regime (killed hundreds of Fatah people just to show who runs the place) and by that holds almost one million poor people hostage instead of normalizing the relations with Israel and letting the poor people go to work and live in peace.
yuvalcarmel 2 years ago
indeed. muslims are massacaring muslims every day in horrifying ways (beheading, throwing people off roofs, torturing etc) and no one gives a shit... but if israel defends itself? oh man its party time for propaganda people!
delirious2k3 2 years ago
Yeah the Islamic Resistance Movement believs that. Just like the Zionist Movement Believes in building settlements all throughout my village. giving my people no right to build a single brick on our land handed down from our fourfathers. just like they isolate are cities into small countries and tourture our innocent civilians.come live on our side for one day, and see if you last
yousefarman89 2 years ago
your land?
1-it was not taken away from you
2-the Jews are the original people of this contry called Israel and not with the fake name you give it Palestine. palestine is a fairytale you grow up on like kids grow up on Santa Klaus.
haimdov73 2 years ago
Where is your land exactly ,Yousef?
In a region called Judea?
Hmm... that name incredibely resembles the word "Jude".
Interesting fact ,isn't it?
You would probably also claim the Arab Peninsula belongs to... umm... Australians ,right?
PRICK3 2 years ago
the thing with the name is true but even if you ignore that, you can not ignore the fact that jewish people lived in this place thousends of years ago.. THERE ARE HISTORIC AND SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that is where THE JEWISH PEOPLE LIVED, and its too bad that even when most israeli people accept the idea of a palestinian state and their right for that, not so many palestinians (even so called moderates) do. not to mention Hammas neo-nazi organization that wants to extirminate us all.
delirious2k3 2 years ago
We must stop the islamic terror in Israel and the rest of the world.The world didn't protest against Hitler actions and underestimated him and the holocost took place,we will not let this happen again by the Islam and the Palastinians.
leahdalia 2 years ago 4
israel is just the first stop - watch the movie "Fitnah" or "The last jihad" and see that they want to take all of the world and slaughter every "infidel" in the way. denying israel's right to defend itself is accepting terrorism and radical islam takeover... it will explode in europian and american face soon enough...
delirious2k3 2 years ago 3
possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?
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that is from hamas covenant, an islamo facists human rights depressor, women abuser, homosexuals killer savage barbarian organization. THAT is for all of you who think they are so peaceful and want to share the land - they dont, they want to slaughter all non-muslims.
delirious2k3 2 years ago
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab,
delirious2k3 2 years ago
Leave it to Israel to critisize the UN REPORT GOLDSTONE WHO WENT INTO GAZA DID THE RESEARCH and FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF THEM HIDING BEHIND CHILDREN.. UN SCHOOLS AND SHELTERS WERE HIT..WE WERENT OFFERED LAND in 1948 THAT LAND WAS OURS WHICH HAGANAH TROOPS CAME FORCEFULLY TOOK US OUT OF OUR HOMES... LIES IS WHAT YOU SPREAD
yousefarman89 2 years ago
Actually he did find... and he did write about that... also he complained yesterday about the statement that was only one-sided and didnt mention hamas's war crimes... the land wasnt "yours", because frankly, there was no "yours", there was arab minority, that came from jordan and syria and serveral countries and lived there. Arab minority was offered a country next to jewish country and they declined and opened war. the ATTACKERS lost the war and they cry about it until this day. funny huh?
delirious2k3 2 years ago 4
Wow ,you really should read some history books.
Let's start with those that weren't written by Hamas or any other Palestinian organization.
PRICK3 2 years ago
with all due respect to the all the jews in the world, ANTI-ZIONISM IS ANTI NAZISM, NOT ANTI-SEMITISM, being an Anti-Zionist does not make me an Anti-Semite. 2) for a blood thirsty warmogner to speak about peace is unbelievably outrageous. If a man can manage to keep his sanity when he has the blood of 600 children on his hands, he is at the level of the devil, probably even lower. IDF is not moral, it is a terrorist gang that supresses its own soldiers from speaking against it...
miltownrepper 2 years ago
1) Do you know what is Zionist? Zion is Israel. Zionist is a man that loves Israel and want to leave in Israel and make it prospered. It happens that most Jews are also Zionists. So one that is anti-Zionist would like to destroy Israel.
2) IDF is one of the moral armies in the world. This army need to fight impossible war against radical cowards named Hamas. Those cowards are hiding behind children, booby-trap civilians homes, fire rockets from civilians backyards.
yuvalcarmel 2 years ago 2
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how in the hell is killing civilians defending yourselves? the Isreali army is nothing but immoral. they invade our lands and expect us to allow them to the take everything and everone...Long live Palestine! Olmert as well as the israeli's actions are a disgrace to us all
219Nemo 2 years ago
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how in the hell is killing civilians defending yourselves? the Isreali army is nothing but immoral. they invade our lands and expect us to allow them to the take everything and everone...Long live Palestine! Olmert as well as the israeli's actions are a disgrace to us all
219Nemo 2 years ago
civilians? most of the terrorists that were killed in the just war in gaza were war criminals that were hiding among children and women. they are the predators of the world, islamo-facists, worlds most known human rights abusers. treating women like slaves, executing children, massacaring eachother for religious insane causes, stoning homosexuals, forbidding freedom of speech and so on. bunch of barbarians talking about disgrace - unbeliveable.
delirious2k3 2 years ago 4
in 1948 we got land and you got land.
we said YES and you said NO.
you start a war.
how can you say lies?
are you stupid or think everyone are stupid?
it is your blame that your leaders didn't want a land in 1948. now pay for their mistakes.
kobisimcha 2 years ago 4
History is not the best side of the islamic fundementalists... exploding in civilian territory is though...
delirious2k3 2 years ago 2
STOP MAKING THIS SEEM LIKES ITS A BATTLE OF THE LAST 8 YEARS. PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR DECADES. EVER SINCE THEY DAY THAT BOATS OF EUROPEAN JEWS WERE BEING BROUGHT INTO OUR LAND WE HAVE BEEN SUFFERING. Hamas is a resistance movenment created in the 1980s to end the Israeli Occupation of Palestine and end the aggression of the Israeli Defense forces on Palestinians. YOU CAME TOOK THE LAND THAT WASNT YOURS, THEN ENTRAPP US IN A OPEN AIR PRISON THEN REFUSE US THE RIGHT 2 DEFEND OURSELVES
yousefarman89 2 years ago
Yeah, ofcourse palestines have been suffering for decades... they are poor fellas, who recognize israel as a legitimate state, have never suicide bombed on innocent civilians, never shot rockets at innocent children... never opened war in order to extirminate israel's existence... Ha Ha Ha. Not. infact, they have been doing all of that and the real "thieves" of the land are muslim occupiers from the seventh century... so dont give me the "stole our lands" crap. arabs are the immigrants.
delirious2k3 2 years ago 2
Now it's ok, we now have no boundaries to handle you as you deserve.
Let your shit elsewhere but not in a university you grasshopper eater
danblasbalg 2 years ago
i wanna ask any 1 in USA / Euro what they would after live 8 years after more than 5K miseles shot on them when aiming and intending to hit families in their houses, the palestinians terrorist o hamas tried 8 years to hit ppl in south israel and sometimes they succeeded.
i bet no other country in the world would have waited 8 years to react ? other nations probebly wipe out the other side if they fired rockets day after day (probebly wiped the offensive side after the 1st rocket).
mkoshili 2 years ago 3
such a shame, giving the Palestinian terrorists a voice.
Palestinians are violent and unmoral people, deserve no rights as long as they kill young children and fire rockets to israel.
USA will be sorry for the day the let those arabs in their back yard.
nirmiz123 2 years ago 2
The whole world will be sorry. one quarter of the world's population are muslims. quoran is a facist nazi book with instructions to take over the world, kill every infidel (among with homosexual, unmodestly dressed woman etc...) and they are doing a pretty good job. people are naive and kind of stupid, they buy the propaganda...
delirious2k3 2 years ago 4
sir read it for your self, and dont buy into the propaganda, then you can speak about it...because that claim you are making is all propaganda. Thank you in advance for pointing out your own ignorance.
miltownrepper 2 years ago
You haven't said anything to contradict nirmiz123 claims. There were actual rockets fired at Israel, there is an hijacked soldier. There are a lot of Israeli families was son, brother, mother or sister that was claim by Palestinian terror. I have a short question to you. The PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) lead by Arafat came to life in 1964, 3 years BEFORE Israel had Gaza and J&S. The question is, which Palestine Arafat was looking for? The answer is, he wanted the Jews to go away.
yuvalcarmel 2 years ago
There was 70 million tons of bombs dropped in 22 days. There are over 10,000 Palestinian prisoners. THERE ARE OVER MILLIONS THAT DO NOT CLAIM, BUT HAVE LOST ENTIRE FAMILIES IN ONE NIGHT. The answer to your question sir is that the Palestinians are not to blame for what happened to them in Germany. My question is, what kind of country are the Zionists looking for...A pure "ZIONIST" state, no 'impure' Arab blood is allowed to exist, sound familiar? ARYAN RACE presented by NAZISM..
miltownrepper 2 years ago
stupid antishemic- we all saw whatss happen to iran protestors
a new clear war is coming beaice of does arabs rats- you all will cry the day you let does arabd rats to get new clear bombd- you pray dor good live they pray to boming themself with you to get 70 virgins in heaven
TheGustaver 2 years ago 3
ppl from europ and usa- you all will cry the day you let does arab rats to came in to your counrty- you will be like afganistan
there will be tousends of 11\9, busses wull blow up in the streets- see how france- thats how you gonna be they will eat your freedom from inside
TheGustaver 2 years ago 5
you fuckin ignorant you can't even spell
AISMAIL16 2 years ago
And you are just showing you lingual richness.
yuvalcarmel 2 years ago
Come on, Stop being blind, I am israeli, u can't and u wont be able to understand the feeling of beeing attacked every day, and of open the paper and read about gilad shalit, rockets being shot from gaza, a bus that exploded and 30 ppl got killed.
THE ISRAELI ARMY IS A MORAL ARMY.
those terrorits(hamas) are the killers of their own people, they shot rockets from childen schools, they use woman and children as human shield. how can we defend our self without hitting civillians...
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susanlarissa3228 2 years ago
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I'm glad Palestine has a voice without violence, aswell the Freedom Fighters (Now Global). I saw the video on the website and especially liked the Lady who stood up to say that he should say it to the International court ..and he should be in a cage not on stage, or words to that effect. Brilliant and JUST.
RealK4 2 years ago
Yeah I've Seen Electronic Intifada's. I had an audio recording on my BlackBerry..i got up until i was kicked out.lol tried my best to stay long but i couldnt take it anymore. and the pleasure is mine i assure u
yousefarman89 2 years ago
Glad to see that electronicIntifada wasn't the only one able to record this war criminal's lecture. The Electronic Intifada was only able to get about 7 minutes of footage before getting threatened.
watch?v=wgN02ZTe5AU
Impressed that you were able to even get an audio recording. Thank you.
takotheoktopus 2 years ago