Religion is a lifestyle choice. Making fun of someone for something they choise to do is absolutely fine. It's not like racism or homophobia where the victim of abuse didn't chose to be the way they are.
looks like you forgot your religion mate dose it not say forgive those who do wrong, look s like you forgot to forgive ass, and that excatly what i mean every thing is so empty nowa days, "oh iam a riligiuos and i love my religion so much am gonna sue you, but i will not take time to follow it like i must becuse iam on a ego tirp or want money wake up
I thought that the teacher was acquitted - or was that another case?
Is the whole teaching establishment telling the truth about creationism (and paying the penalty of being dragged through the courts by some precious little monster that wants to get his/her own back for whatever reason)?
In other news, man arrested for stated, ridiculous, "Santa Claus is not real."
The arresting officer had this to say. "How can you say Santa Claus is not real? I believe in him, therefore he is real. How can you explain presents under the tree any other way, exactly!"
How was it a violation of freedom of speech? If anything, the teacher violated the student's right to not be persecuted for his religious belief. And why would a history teacher be talking about evolution? He needs to teach what the subject and not add in his own beliefs.
America, please don't give up there's still hope. The truth will out. "Creationism" i even hate the word, to say it's superstitious nonsense is being kind, it's dangerous & this kid was lucky to have a teacher prepared to tell him the truth even if it did "Butthurt"!
I do think it was inappropriate to bring in political soundbites into an educational setting. Although I DO agree with the "superstitious nonsense" part. ;)
Just a follow up for anyone seeing this video now..
In subsequent proceedings, Judge Selna determined that the teacher was protected by qualified immunity and, on September 24, 2009, entered judgment denying the student declaratory, injunctive or monetary relief, and inviting the defendants to apply for recovery of their attorney fees and costs.
Apparently the lawyer representing the student wants the supreme court to review the case if the appeals court doesn't repeal this ruling.
Interestingly, even though I agree with everything the teacher said, his delivery and the forum he chose to share his opinions was inappropriate and the ruling will teach him to control his outbursts. I would regret not suing my Western Civilization professor for his rant on how America was founded on Christian values, except that I remember I didn't because I'm not a thin skinned little baby.
Corbett gives a fucking DISCLAIMED about his class at the beginning of the year, apparently some devout christians cannot stay awake for the disclaimed and then get their tight ass little panties in a twist because someone says something. Corbett is great Chad is an ass.
@RadarGuidedVermin Proving the point yet again. You keep on trolling there kid. Maybe someday you'll actually get to kiss a girl and maybe you'll stop trolling...
Naw there's no way a loser troll like you will ever kiss a girl. Especially living in your parents basement. Now run along your mom is done blowing me and has some Ovaltine for you.
God could you be any dumber? I know you've been to my chanel do you have have even a minimal grasp on reality? Oh wait no you don't you're troll that lives in your parents basement.
@RadarGuidedVermin 334 sub's disagree. Say how many subscriptions to your channel do you... Oh wait you're a cowardly little troll that doesn't have a channel.
I would counter sue for infringing my right to freedom of speech. This teachers not only standing up for science, but for the human race, and against bigotry. What is wrong with our species?
Creationists almost never engage in intellectual discourse; instead, they try to shut-up the competition, using whatever means they can, including punative lawsuits. This is a perfect example of their intellectual incompetence, ignorance, adherence to superstition and rejection of scientific evidence. We must stop bullshit like this from taking place in the future, and not let quality education be disrupted by insane religious people and their agenda to make this country a theocracy.
Oops! As usual, Faux News gets it wrong. The decision was overturned by an appeals court, which ruled, in effect, that a student does not have a constitutional right not to hear things in class that challenges his beliefs. Christian crybabies lose again.
I'm sure the teacher would be more then willing to debate about it, if the student could bring any sort of arguments to the teachers statements, but he couldn't. so he had to bitch to some lawyers.
"Well, if all of this that makes up the universe is here, something must have created it.' Faulty logic. Very faulty logic..."
It IS faulty logic, and he shouldn't have to make any apologies whatsoever for making that statement - no mater who does or does not enjoy hearing it.
That being said, some of the other statements he made could quite reasonably be considered to be beyond the bounds of propriety, and he should have known better - he could have found a better way to elucidate his point.
The teacher went over the top with his bashing but he is absolutely right in calling creationism superstitious nonsense. They picked out his most incendiary comments to play but he's right, hate to say it..
In my history class we learn this exact same thing, not nessisarily our teacher calling it non sense but it is the curiculum, they were probably learning about Russia or the USSR where religion was not approved during the communist rule, I think the quotes were used out of context.
Awesome.. I thought that religion with a power of god can at least take some criticism. I mean it wasn't even criticism it was logical reasoning. We can't expect any rational behavior from religious people.
Expose Religion! The Great LIE that retards Truth, Logic, and Scientific Advancement, and promotes Discrimination and Violence! Separate church and state! End religious tax breaks!
This is ridiculous. I can't believe there are still people that don't understand or believe evolution, as if there's anything left to believe, it is painfully obvious.
@cherikeered Yeah, and to the people who say it's literally impossible for a fish to live on land, or for an animal to grow legs, look at amphibians and the mudskipper. Mudskipper is a fish that lives on land, and amphibians literally grow legs and gain the ability to breath air.
@JDaKingman You call this educated man a faggot ? What would that have to do with anything you mental midget. By the way, you spelling and grammer serve to reenforce the fact that you are retarded.
@UncleMatt69 lol what? Your comment made no since. A REAL educated man wouldn't tell other people's children that their beliefs is "Nonsense" a TEACHER is supposed to TEACH not DISPROVE and undermine and force HIS personal beliefs on others. The fact you believe i'm mentally restricted all because i choose not to spell my words correctly on the internet. Apparently,you don't have the ability to criticize strangers when you misspelled "Grammar" "reinforced" and made a typo b4 those.
Just realized I missed one of the comments brought up. The one with Aristotle was the THIRD comment and the second was against Christianity "When you put on your Jesus glasses you can't see the truth." Though it also seems anti-religion in general with the first part.
Though I do not understand why it was not THAT comment that the judge cited as being against Christianity and instead used the creationism one.
Agree with the judge after realizing that was there.First two comments still stand
Now if the teacher was disrespecting Christianity I could understand ruling in the kid's favor. The teacher was currently working at a (I'm assuming public) high school which is ran by the government which means they can't promote or demote (as demoting a religion is essentially promoting all others) a religion. But I don't see any quotes that show him doing that.
In addition, I like the second comment they bring up concerning Aristotle. Aristotle was born around 384 B.C. in Greece and, correct me if I am wrong, was no a Christian. So how would attacking Aristotle's beliefs be attacking Christianity?
The first comment seems to be the only one of the three that even brings up God and it seems more like an attack on conservatives than on Christians.
So wait...the only comment that the judge deemed objectionable was calling creationism "superstitious nonsense". I thought that the pushers of creationism claim that creationism isn't religious. So going by what creationists say the teacher would have been criticizing a...well not sure what to call it since it isn't a scientific theory...let's just say something nonreligious.
In other words, creationism is religious when people criticize it but nonreligious when they try to get it into schools.
To be this stupid superstitious moron kid should mean daily wedgies and bullying, not to mention virginity for the rest of his life.
To actually be this badly fucked up should be a national scandal. Not only does this teacher deserve a raise, parents of this fucked up child should have to pay for this idiotic law-suit.
That teacher shouldn't be telling the truth about religion to kids because some soft kids wearing Jesus shades might get hurt. Maybe one day parents will stop lying to these little kids.
And yet if this teacher was bashing atheism, this student would likely be singing his praises.
Also, there was no violation of First Amendment rights. Teachers do not themselves create or enforce laws, and so by extension cannot create or enforce laws that particularly favor or oppose specific religions. Was the teacher out of line? Perhaps. Not enough to sue the teacher though.
if we sleep with the dogs we will wake up with fleas people. there is no room for ANY religous teachings within the public school sector. if we teach christianity, we have to teach judaism. if we teach judaism, we have to teach islam. if we teach islam we have to teach buddhism... if we teach buddhism we have to teach hinduism.. and so on and so forth until we have to teach Peter Griffin's "Church of the Fonz" or Jim Jones' religion/cult that he taught. No room in public schools for ANY religion
i am a devout atheist... however this teacher was in the wrong to openly "blast" ANY religion in any type of classroom setting... Again, I restate that I am a 110% atheist & i absolutely HATE all religions for various religions... However at the same time I am 110% behind the Constitution, and in within a vacuum, this boy/any other Christians in the classroom, their rights were violated... Please, I beg of all atheist, be smart, let us not fall to the level of the religious...
@TheOrcasRule The 9th amendment says that the constitution does not list all the rights we have. I would argue that the very existence of public schooling, and the department of education is a violation of out 10th amendment right to a limited federal government. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Anything about education in the constitution? Than the feds can't do it.
The constitution doesn't authorize an Air Force either.
Don't be dense. Every industrialized, civilized nation needs public education. Without that, what are we? Right back to a system of nobility and aristocracy, where only the rich kids get an education. Of course, the conservatives, and you apparently, would just love that, wouldn't you?
@TheOrcasRule It calls for the common defense. I don't care what other nations have. We have a constitution, which is the law of the land, to deny it, to ignore it means we live in a nation not governed by the rule of law, but by mob rule.
I would love if money was not stolen from me at gunpoint every 2 weeks to pay for things such as public education. I don't care if people can't afford to send their kids to school. That's their problem, not mine.
@TheOrcasRule If we "needed" public education,on a federal level, we would have a constitutional convention, and the states would ratify a new amendment saying the federal government must provide, by taking money from people who work, to provide education for the children of those who don't. Kind of like what they did with income tax.
If you're a fan of pen and teller, you should know, they agree with me.
The kid doesn't even know what he's fuckin talking about half the time and the story is so disorted by Fox news that the only thing I learned was that the kid couldn't stand the teacher calling BS on religion.
This is why I like it in my country proper laws. First the kid could be fined for taking the audio, second if the case was found to be inapropiate which it is he could be jailed for a few months, lastly reporting it to media could result in punitive challenges which can allow the man to get literally tens of thousands in damages.
@dex1391 I have a few points.Chad was represented by a member of "The Advocates of Faith and Freedom". Hardly a non biased group. MR. Corbett sends a letter informing people he goes out of his way to be provocative. It's a class about EUROPEAN HISTORY and after being informed of the provocative nature of his class before enrollment, Chad brings Lawyers and audio tape. Chad Unlawfully recorded a lecture that was designed to provoke thinking about religion in history.
Who paid for his legal bills... is irrelevant. If it were a teacher teaching Christianity... it would be the local atheist group funding his legal bills.
And you can't deny that... because it happens all the time.
If the teacher were PROVOKING THINKING by telling them the reasons to be Christian or Muslim....
You'd be behind the firing... But you're not.... because you're a hypocrite...
Chad has successfully ruined an educator using nothing but audio tape and the highly predictable popular biased that media can spin on any story. Dex, you fell for it buddy. You rose to the defense of Chad, and showed the dangerous zealotry of Christians today.
@dex1391 They would sue at a drop of the hat if anybody made any refrence to religion in a school.They even got rid of prayers in schools .So almost every athiest who has commented here is a hypocryte.I just looked at a lot of comments and most are just full of hate or pure hypocrytsy.The more I see athiests leave rude and irrational comments is one of the reasons i am not one of them.If they don't want religion in school then they should stop talking about it otherwise they are hypocrytes.
I beleiv that the teacher was wrong to crizise beleifs in a class he even though I agree with him he should stay nuetral to these things until out of school but it doesn't help when fox ttys to make h look like Satan
why doesnt the idiot kid just leave the room?.....oh right, this is 'Merica! where we sue each other for everything. just leave the freaking room!!! bc the teacher isnt entitled to his own opinion. this country pisses me off..........
@VDubsification Look if you don't want religion in schools then stop talking about it that includes youre opinion.And if a teacher started talking posotive of religion in school he would be fired or seud as well.You wan't no religion but it's ok to bash it in school?Thats just a plain Hypocryte.If you don't like the country you are always free to go to athiest land and live in harmony there is nobody is stopping you in fact I will but you a ticket.
@korzon Little kids bully other kids everyday for being gay - this has been accepted and defended by religious bigotry, claiming that its alright because its their belief. When a teacher takes opposition to the foundation for which these actions are justified that is admirable, its brave, its the right thing to do. 1 in 3 suicides are LGBT related. Not only is this as a direct result of religion but it pushes to put creationism alongside evolution in schools. Evolution is fact, not a belief.
@korzon I can go on and on about what problems we have in this world that stem as a direct result out of religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions and it wont make any bit of difference to somebody like you. What might make sense to you is that I defend your right to spew your ridiculously offensive and despicable hate speech and war mongering because it means that I have my right to combat your moronic claims and transparent delusions wherever I want, anytime I want - and so do teachers.
@korzon I can go on and on about what problems we have in this world that stem as a direct result out of religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions and it wont make any bit of difference to somebody like you. What might make sense to you is that I defend your right to spew your ridiculously offensive and despicable hate speech and war mongering because it means that I have my right to combat your moronic claims and transparent delusions wherever I want, anytime I want - and so do teachers.
Creationism is superstitious nonsense the teacher should be commended for teaching the truth. Christianity is a major part of European history how can these stupid f'ing reporters say that it is not.
@SPIRITandTRUTH777 Which god is real the jewish, christian and muslim god whose followers have killed and tortured millions of people. Or Isis, Odin, Shiva or anyone of a thousand other gods that primitive, superstitious and ignorant people have made up. Religious indoctrination is criminal child abuse. “While we are under the tyranny of Priests it will ever be their interest, to invalidate the law of nature and reason, in order to establish systems incompatible therewith.”Ethan Allen
@SPIRITandTRUTH777 How do the letters and numbers line up in Hebrew, Greek or Latin? Omniscient God? Here is a quote from Epicurus “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” If you read your own bible your god does not measure up to being a god. He does not even measure up as a good moral person.
@terriblehondo they dont need to line up. English is the language of the masses and every major country speaks english, not hebrew or latin. since God is all knowing he used english. Gods to GREAT for you. Accordng to u God has to use hebrew greek or latin. According to God he does w/e he pleases. ahaha
@terriblehondo A=6 B=12 C=18 etc... A Omniscient God=888 Divine Presence=888 Jesus The King=888 Omnipresent=888 Scriptures=888 I Am the Almighty=906[[[[[Omnipotent]]]]] Jesus is Lord=906 Jesus Christ=906 Holy Spirit=906 Lord of Hosts=906
Although I do think that the teacher was a bit too harsh on opinions he didn't favor, he did make some excellent points which are ,for all intents and purposes, facts. But our buddy Chad here instead sued his ass off like a little pussy instead of critically analyzing his teacher's beliefs wrapped around an insulting form of speech. I'm sure his teacher would have been proud of him if Chad would've questioned his teacher, instead of the whole suing business.
This guy reminds me of my History teacher in my Freshmen year. Although he'd never come out and bash religion, he knew it was superstitious nonsense. Although he did bash Republicans quite often.
I'm sorry, but the rest of the world is very concerned,,,we dont see a lot of difference between this kind of main stream media/fundamentalism is oh so close to islamic fundemantalism..."reading writing and arithmetic" and creationism only!!!
Teachers are supposed to EDUCATE. They are under no obligation to protect or humor "beliefs". If they are doing their job well, they challenge beliefs with facts, thereby increasing and deepening knowledge.
Actually, the kid was completely correct. The teacher is not supposed to denigrate religion either. He is, unfortunately, completely out of line. I would hope that the same thing would happen if some teacher was to start saying that if you don't believe in the christian god, you are a complete idiot. Teachers are not supposed to denigrate anyone's protected beliefs, whether they be religious or political.
@flameroller- I agree that the teacher was out of line with some of the comments, but to call creationism nonsense is actually a valid thing to say in a history class as history verifies that the Earth is not 6,000 years old (we have tools and cave paintings that are over 100,000 years old and civilizations that existed long before 4000 BCE). It also shows that there was no flood global 4000 years ago as many civilizations have an unbroken historical record and monuments built during that time.
@califoniania Well it is false. Him saying it's false is not a problem at all, as long as he's simply stating how fact is in complete opposition to the belief in question. The problem comes when they start to rant about how stupid it is and how people who believe it are stupid. That has no business in a public school.
@hunchbacked No, because you are not a government official and the teacher is. I would be just as upset if a teacher at a public school started saying that if anyone here doesn't believe in jesus, they are going to burn in hell. You can't even have religion as a subject discussed in an enforced curriculum. Electives (aka non-mandatory) that deal with religion in an analytical way (such as a comparative religions course) would be acceptable. A lawsuit was a step too far, however.
All the evolutionists in here make me ashamed to be a rational atheist. It's like people don't even understand what a theory is, and why it is different from a fact. The "scientific consensus" used to insist that the earth was flat, and that you could cure diseases by exsanguination. But that doesn't give the radical anti-theists a reason to persecute and harass christians in the west. Hey why don't you guys go pick on muslims, see how that works out for you. Tell them mohammed fucks pigs.
There was never a scientific consensus that the earth was flat. Science is based on empirical evidence. What empirical evidence has there ever been that the earth was flat? If you actually knew your history you would know that Eratosthenes demonstrated empirically that the Earth was indeed round in ~200B.C. or so. People didn't listen to him.
The flat earthers were adhering to dogma instead of looking at data, kind of like creatinionists...
Religion is a lifestyle choice. Making fun of someone for something they choise to do is absolutely fine. It's not like racism or homophobia where the victim of abuse didn't chose to be the way they are.
soundslave 2 weeks ago
you are contradicting your on illusion
scrotemface 3 weeks ago
looks like you forgot your religion mate dose it not say forgive those who do wrong, look s like you forgot to forgive ass, and that excatly what i mean every thing is so empty nowa days, "oh iam a riligiuos and i love my religion so much am gonna sue you, but i will not take time to follow it like i must becuse iam on a ego tirp or want money wake up
scrotemface 3 weeks ago
I thought that the teacher was acquitted - or was that another case?
Is the whole teaching establishment telling the truth about creationism (and paying the penalty of being dragged through the courts by some precious little monster that wants to get his/her own back for whatever reason)?
waddletop 3 weeks ago
smart teacher and fucked up kid...that kid is just pimping for a job on Fox
oceans19711 1 month ago
In other news, man arrested for stated, ridiculous, "Santa Claus is not real."
The arresting officer had this to say. "How can you say Santa Claus is not real? I believe in him, therefore he is real. How can you explain presents under the tree any other way, exactly!"
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Never, ever try to tell a religious person the truth.
cheers
nedladdy 1 month ago 2
its more than "superstitious nonsense,"...its dim-witted fucktardery!
sethmusic 2 months ago
How was it a violation of freedom of speech? If anything, the teacher violated the student's right to not be persecuted for his religious belief. And why would a history teacher be talking about evolution? He needs to teach what the subject and not add in his own beliefs.
rritter72 2 months ago
Sounds like the ruling was a violation of freedom of speech to me.
KiraNirvanna 2 months ago
The guys a doctor for a reason.
He's more intelligent than you are.
footysurfwow 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
A man is just trying to put out his opionion. Fuck America.
radonculus 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
i hope this kid eventually learns how much of an idiot he is.
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America, please don't give up there's still hope. The truth will out. "Creationism" i even hate the word, to say it's superstitious nonsense is being kind, it's dangerous & this kid was lucky to have a teacher prepared to tell him the truth even if it did "Butthurt"!
bismarket 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Chad is an idiot freedom of speech my ass
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You can get sued for telling the truth?
JonO387 3 months ago 8
That's like being sued for saying "water's wet."
mikek44224 3 months ago 6
I do think it was inappropriate to bring in political soundbites into an educational setting. Although I DO agree with the "superstitious nonsense" part. ;)
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redelman43199 3 months ago
Just a follow up for anyone seeing this video now..
In subsequent proceedings, Judge Selna determined that the teacher was protected by qualified immunity and, on September 24, 2009, entered judgment denying the student declaratory, injunctive or monetary relief, and inviting the defendants to apply for recovery of their attorney fees and costs.
Apparently the lawyer representing the student wants the supreme court to review the case if the appeals court doesn't repeal this ruling.
Vynjira 3 months ago 3
Only in America
ButterOnCorn 4 months ago
all teachers need to be this way
paegun 4 months ago
I would have said pussy ass little bitch, but I'm also not a Christian. JK, don't kill me church people.
cmfernandez9283 4 months ago
Interestingly, even though I agree with everything the teacher said, his delivery and the forum he chose to share his opinions was inappropriate and the ruling will teach him to control his outbursts. I would regret not suing my Western Civilization professor for his rant on how America was founded on Christian values, except that I remember I didn't because I'm not a thin skinned little baby.
cmfernandez9283 4 months ago
I would've wanted to see this case tried in my country. the judges laughter would've been priceless
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aww u sad chad?
Cheapshot420420 4 months ago
Corbett gives a fucking DISCLAIMED about his class at the beginning of the year, apparently some devout christians cannot stay awake for the disclaimed and then get their tight ass little panties in a twist because someone says something. Corbett is great Chad is an ass.
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RadarGuidedVermin 4 months ago
@RadarGuidedVermin There you go again troll. Keep on keepin' on trolly.
Curious, why don't you have a channel here on YT?
Are you just a coward or a pathetically shy?
The only one whinning is you? As well as lying, crying, oh and let's not forget trolling.
Loser!
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@RadarGuidedVermin Proving the point yet again. You keep on trolling there kid. Maybe someday you'll actually get to kiss a girl and maybe you'll stop trolling...
Naw there's no way a loser troll like you will ever kiss a girl. Especially living in your parents basement. Now run along your mom is done blowing me and has some Ovaltine for you.
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@RadarGuidedVermin I'll have tell that to my son later.
God could you be any dumber? I know you've been to my chanel do you have have even a minimal grasp on reality? Oh wait no you don't you're troll that lives in your parents basement.
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@RadarGuidedVermin 334 sub's disagree. Say how many subscriptions to your channel do you... Oh wait you're a cowardly little troll that doesn't have a channel.
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@RadarGuidedVermin That would be really funny except I'm an Atheist you stupid fucking troll.
Say how was the Ovaltine? Did it taste a little odd to you?
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@caveman73 You have said nothing, only cried.
RadarGuidedVermin 4 months ago
Chad Farnan your a fucking scumbag
ZackTheAtheist 4 months ago
I would counter sue for infringing my right to freedom of speech. This teachers not only standing up for science, but for the human race, and against bigotry. What is wrong with our species?
EWWYOURFAC3 5 months ago
What a pussy... People think they have the right to not have their feelings hurt... It's going to happen, deal with it. And creation IS nonsense
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ffgew22 5 months ago
Creationists almost never engage in intellectual discourse; instead, they try to shut-up the competition, using whatever means they can, including punative lawsuits. This is a perfect example of their intellectual incompetence, ignorance, adherence to superstition and rejection of scientific evidence. We must stop bullshit like this from taking place in the future, and not let quality education be disrupted by insane religious people and their agenda to make this country a theocracy.
ReligionIsBULLSHlT 5 months ago
*Facepalm*
TheMrgoku1985 6 months ago
Too be fair, when the teacher goes over European history, he really should go over how the Dark Ages were the fault of the church.
pipolwes000 6 months ago
"A clear violation of the First Amendment."
Oops! As usual, Faux News gets it wrong. The decision was overturned by an appeals court, which ruled, in effect, that a student does not have a constitutional right not to hear things in class that challenges his beliefs. Christian crybabies lose again.
psychtrane 6 months ago
@psychtrane At least some courts can come to their senses
EarlFaulk 6 months ago
So, a teacher was sued successfully for telling the truth. What has America come to?
greendaythebeatles 7 months ago
@Legacyleg3nd what country do you live in? It sounds very rational.
Elshim2688 7 months ago
He he. "When u put on your jesus glasses u can't see the truth" :-)
That is true. :-)
BelieveNoGod 8 months ago
I'm sure fox news would have been right on this story had it been the other way around... Right...?
boa5252 9 months ago 3
it may be bullshit. but it's not the teachers role to bash a religion. or any other belief. the teacher teaches his course, and that's it.
kriptonis 9 months ago
And one big fuck u to fox's news you are fairy tale believing stupid ignorant people. if christianity is true go kill yourselfs
canbuyu 9 months ago
Sounds like a good teacher fuck that little prick
canbuyu 9 months ago 20
Fuck christianity its fake
canbuyu 9 months ago
What a little dick. America's gone to crap.
DVorte 9 months ago 10
This is the world we live in, if you get offended, tell a higher authority at your school, not take it to court.
GaminOnAMac 9 months ago 2
Another case of Christians imposing their belief that their religion is somehow privileged from criticizing and scrutiny. Crybabies.
luisdez81 9 months ago 3
I'm sure the teacher would be more then willing to debate about it, if the student could bring any sort of arguments to the teachers statements, but he couldn't. so he had to bitch to some lawyers.
Land of the free my ass.
Blitz0z 9 months ago
faith and freedom? no, its faith or freedom.
137P0359997 9 months ago
How is it a violation of the First Amendment!? The fact that the kid sued and won is a violation of free speech!
FrenchFootballLegend 10 months ago
@FrenchFootballLegend of course it is but if he said anything about muslims then it would be a far different story right?
MrBelrox 10 months ago
"Well, if all of this that makes up the universe is here, something must have created it.' Faulty logic. Very faulty logic..."
It IS faulty logic, and he shouldn't have to make any apologies whatsoever for making that statement - no mater who does or does not enjoy hearing it.
That being said, some of the other statements he made could quite reasonably be considered to be beyond the bounds of propriety, and he should have known better - he could have found a better way to elucidate his point.
steveb0503 10 months ago
his goal was supposed to get the teacher fired
not honorable
if he was really offended he would have told the teacher to stop
LobsterPotsticker 10 months ago
The teacher went over the top with his bashing but he is absolutely right in calling creationism superstitious nonsense. They picked out his most incendiary comments to play but he's right, hate to say it..
bwconklin 10 months ago
In my history class we learn this exact same thing, not nessisarily our teacher calling it non sense but it is the curiculum, they were probably learning about Russia or the USSR where religion was not approved during the communist rule, I think the quotes were used out of context.
DV00B 10 months ago
Awesome.. I thought that religion with a power of god can at least take some criticism. I mean it wasn't even criticism it was logical reasoning. We can't expect any rational behavior from religious people.
Jakubb126 11 months ago
Expose Religion! The Great LIE that retards Truth, Logic, and Scientific Advancement, and promotes Discrimination and Violence! Separate church and state! End religious tax breaks!
cherikeered 11 months ago
This is ridiculous. I can't believe there are still people that don't understand or believe evolution, as if there's anything left to believe, it is painfully obvious.
cherikeered 11 months ago
@cherikeered Yeah, and to the people who say it's literally impossible for a fish to live on land, or for an animal to grow legs, look at amphibians and the mudskipper. Mudskipper is a fish that lives on land, and amphibians literally grow legs and gain the ability to breath air.
Gannon171 10 months ago
What a racist teacher!
Quamlen 11 months ago
that's wut that faggot get
JDaKingman 11 months ago
@JDaKingman You call this educated man a faggot ? What would that have to do with anything you mental midget. By the way, you spelling and grammer serve to reenforce the fact that you are retarded.
UncleMatt69 11 months ago
@UncleMatt69 lol what? Your comment made no since. A REAL educated man wouldn't tell other people's children that their beliefs is "Nonsense" a TEACHER is supposed to TEACH not DISPROVE and undermine and force HIS personal beliefs on others. The fact you believe i'm mentally restricted all because i choose not to spell my words correctly on the internet. Apparently,you don't have the ability to criticize strangers when you misspelled "Grammar" "reinforced" and made a typo b4 those.
JDaKingman 11 months ago
Just realized I missed one of the comments brought up. The one with Aristotle was the THIRD comment and the second was against Christianity "When you put on your Jesus glasses you can't see the truth." Though it also seems anti-religion in general with the first part.
Though I do not understand why it was not THAT comment that the judge cited as being against Christianity and instead used the creationism one.
Agree with the judge after realizing that was there.First two comments still stand
MrImmoli 11 months ago
Now if the teacher was disrespecting Christianity I could understand ruling in the kid's favor. The teacher was currently working at a (I'm assuming public) high school which is ran by the government which means they can't promote or demote (as demoting a religion is essentially promoting all others) a religion. But I don't see any quotes that show him doing that.
MrImmoli 11 months ago
In addition, I like the second comment they bring up concerning Aristotle. Aristotle was born around 384 B.C. in Greece and, correct me if I am wrong, was no a Christian. So how would attacking Aristotle's beliefs be attacking Christianity?
The first comment seems to be the only one of the three that even brings up God and it seems more like an attack on conservatives than on Christians.
MrImmoli 11 months ago
So wait...the only comment that the judge deemed objectionable was calling creationism "superstitious nonsense". I thought that the pushers of creationism claim that creationism isn't religious. So going by what creationists say the teacher would have been criticizing a...well not sure what to call it since it isn't a scientific theory...let's just say something nonreligious.
In other words, creationism is religious when people criticize it but nonreligious when they try to get it into schools.
MrImmoli 11 months ago
To be this stupid superstitious moron kid should mean daily wedgies and bullying, not to mention virginity for the rest of his life.
To actually be this badly fucked up should be a national scandal. Not only does this teacher deserve a raise, parents of this fucked up child should have to pay for this idiotic law-suit.
bary1234 11 months ago 11
That teacher shouldn't be telling the truth about religion to kids because some soft kids wearing Jesus shades might get hurt. Maybe one day parents will stop lying to these little kids.
CandJCuesta 11 months ago
And yet if this teacher was bashing atheism, this student would likely be singing his praises.
Also, there was no violation of First Amendment rights. Teachers do not themselves create or enforce laws, and so by extension cannot create or enforce laws that particularly favor or oppose specific religions. Was the teacher out of line? Perhaps. Not enough to sue the teacher though.
SeruQuik 11 months ago
sued for telling the truth? This country sucks...
EDKsurly 11 months ago 2
i hope this kid gets his lunch money stolen
EOTNVOX 11 months ago
if we sleep with the dogs we will wake up with fleas people. there is no room for ANY religous teachings within the public school sector. if we teach christianity, we have to teach judaism. if we teach judaism, we have to teach islam. if we teach islam we have to teach buddhism... if we teach buddhism we have to teach hinduism.. and so on and so forth until we have to teach Peter Griffin's "Church of the Fonz" or Jim Jones' religion/cult that he taught. No room in public schools for ANY religion
TC4363 1 year ago
i am a devout atheist... however this teacher was in the wrong to openly "blast" ANY religion in any type of classroom setting... Again, I restate that I am a 110% atheist & i absolutely HATE all religions for various religions... However at the same time I am 110% behind the Constitution, and in within a vacuum, this boy/any other Christians in the classroom, their rights were violated... Please, I beg of all atheist, be smart, let us not fall to the level of the religious...
TC4363 1 year ago
@TC4363 How were the kids' rights violated? What constitutional right was violated?
TheOrcasRule 10 months ago
@TheOrcasRule The 9th amendment says that the constitution does not list all the rights we have. I would argue that the very existence of public schooling, and the department of education is a violation of out 10th amendment right to a limited federal government. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Anything about education in the constitution? Than the feds can't do it.
turdferguson9725 10 months ago
@turdferguson9725
The constitution doesn't authorize an Air Force either.
Don't be dense. Every industrialized, civilized nation needs public education. Without that, what are we? Right back to a system of nobility and aristocracy, where only the rich kids get an education. Of course, the conservatives, and you apparently, would just love that, wouldn't you?
TheOrcasRule 10 months ago
@TheOrcasRule It calls for the common defense. I don't care what other nations have. We have a constitution, which is the law of the land, to deny it, to ignore it means we live in a nation not governed by the rule of law, but by mob rule.
I would love if money was not stolen from me at gunpoint every 2 weeks to pay for things such as public education. I don't care if people can't afford to send their kids to school. That's their problem, not mine.
turdferguson9725 10 months ago
@TheOrcasRule If we "needed" public education,on a federal level, we would have a constitutional convention, and the states would ratify a new amendment saying the federal government must provide, by taking money from people who work, to provide education for the children of those who don't. Kind of like what they did with income tax.
If you're a fan of pen and teller, you should know, they agree with me.
turdferguson9725 10 months ago
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TheOrcasRule 10 months ago
The kid doesn't even know what he's fuckin talking about half the time and the story is so disorted by Fox news that the only thing I learned was that the kid couldn't stand the teacher calling BS on religion.
Falloutglitch 1 year ago
What?!? It IS superstitious nonsense!!
Hrafnsmal 1 year ago
This is why I like it in my country proper laws. First the kid could be fined for taking the audio, second if the case was found to be inapropiate which it is he could be jailed for a few months, lastly reporting it to media could result in punitive challenges which can allow the man to get literally tens of thousands in damages.
Illusive92 1 year ago
Why do they act that just because they won the case that they were right?
TheArrpeegee 1 year ago
everyone has their own beliefs, i believe in leprechauns and unicorns... just like to share that.
labtec1233 1 year ago
Good for you... Well done. We need this bigots out of the school system.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391
You are talking about the kid right?
MalachiJM 1 year ago
@MalachiJM
Not at all. The hero did nothing bigoted at all. The worthless ex-teacher is gone. And of course he needs to be gone.
Don't be a hypocrite. If the teacher was teaching Christianity or Islam instead of atheism... you'd be DEMANDING that he be fired.
If you can't stand up for the exact same standards... you are nothing more than a hypocrite...
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 I have a few points.Chad was represented by a member of "The Advocates of Faith and Freedom". Hardly a non biased group. MR. Corbett sends a letter informing people he goes out of his way to be provocative. It's a class about EUROPEAN HISTORY and after being informed of the provocative nature of his class before enrollment, Chad brings Lawyers and audio tape. Chad Unlawfully recorded a lecture that was designed to provoke thinking about religion in history.
MalachiJM 1 year ago
@MalachiJM
Actually what he's done... is defended his rights. Which of course are important.
If it had been the opposite. You'd be DEMANDING he were fired.
And you can't deny that.
That makes you a hypocrite.
dex1391 1 year ago
@MalachiJM
Who paid for his legal bills... is irrelevant. If it were a teacher teaching Christianity... it would be the local atheist group funding his legal bills.
And you can't deny that... because it happens all the time.
If the teacher were PROVOKING THINKING by telling them the reasons to be Christian or Muslim....
You'd be behind the firing... But you're not.... because you're a hypocrite...
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391
Chad has successfully ruined an educator using nothing but audio tape and the highly predictable popular biased that media can spin on any story. Dex, you fell for it buddy. You rose to the defense of Chad, and showed the dangerous zealotry of Christians today.
MalachiJM 1 year ago
@dex1391
I think we are arguing about different things.
MalachiJM 1 year ago
@MalachiJM
Not at all... you're upset because this bigoted teacher got sued and fired.
dex1391 1 year ago
@dex1391 They would sue at a drop of the hat if anybody made any refrence to religion in a school.They even got rid of prayers in schools .So almost every athiest who has commented here is a hypocryte.I just looked at a lot of comments and most are just full of hate or pure hypocrytsy.The more I see athiests leave rude and irrational comments is one of the reasons i am not one of them.If they don't want religion in school then they should stop talking about it otherwise they are hypocrytes.
korzon 6 months ago
@korzon
You couldn't be more right...
dex1391 6 months ago
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@dex1391
You are talking about the kid right?
MalachiJM 1 year ago
Religion is only needed if you are making a mental institution, without bars.
adolthitler 1 year ago
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me." Jesus
RichieJohnSauls 1 year ago
Haha if Christians want another reason to be hated, so be it. Then again, they like being persecuted, it makes them more like their savior.
And8But 1 year ago
I beleiv that the teacher was wrong to crizise beleifs in a class he even though I agree with him he should stay nuetral to these things until out of school but it doesn't help when fox ttys to make h look like Satan
FUNNYDUDEFILMS 1 year ago
@FUNNYDUDEFILMS What if his tirade was in response to comments by this kid?
adolthitler 1 year ago
why doesnt the idiot kid just leave the room?.....oh right, this is 'Merica! where we sue each other for everything. just leave the freaking room!!! bc the teacher isnt entitled to his own opinion. this country pisses me off..........
VDubsification 1 year ago
@VDubsification Look if you don't want religion in schools then stop talking about it that includes youre opinion.And if a teacher started talking posotive of religion in school he would be fired or seud as well.You wan't no religion but it's ok to bash it in school?Thats just a plain Hypocryte.If you don't like the country you are always free to go to athiest land and live in harmony there is nobody is stopping you in fact I will but you a ticket.
korzon 6 months ago
@korzon Little kids bully other kids everyday for being gay - this has been accepted and defended by religious bigotry, claiming that its alright because its their belief. When a teacher takes opposition to the foundation for which these actions are justified that is admirable, its brave, its the right thing to do. 1 in 3 suicides are LGBT related. Not only is this as a direct result of religion but it pushes to put creationism alongside evolution in schools. Evolution is fact, not a belief.
EWWYOURFAC3 5 months ago
@korzon I can go on and on about what problems we have in this world that stem as a direct result out of religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions and it wont make any bit of difference to somebody like you. What might make sense to you is that I defend your right to spew your ridiculously offensive and despicable hate speech and war mongering because it means that I have my right to combat your moronic claims and transparent delusions wherever I want, anytime I want - and so do teachers.
EWWYOURFAC3 5 months ago
@korzon I can go on and on about what problems we have in this world that stem as a direct result out of religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions and it wont make any bit of difference to somebody like you. What might make sense to you is that I defend your right to spew your ridiculously offensive and despicable hate speech and war mongering because it means that I have my right to combat your moronic claims and transparent delusions wherever I want, anytime I want - and so do teachers.
EWWYOURFAC3 5 months ago
Creationism is superstitious nonsense the teacher should be commended for teaching the truth. Christianity is a major part of European history how can these stupid f'ing reporters say that it is not.
terriblehondo 1 year ago
@terriblehondo Gods real
SPIRITandTRUTH777 1 year ago
@SPIRITandTRUTH777 Which god is real the jewish, christian and muslim god whose followers have killed and tortured millions of people. Or Isis, Odin, Shiva or anyone of a thousand other gods that primitive, superstitious and ignorant people have made up. Religious indoctrination is criminal child abuse. “While we are under the tyranny of Priests it will ever be their interest, to invalidate the law of nature and reason, in order to establish systems incompatible therewith.”Ethan Allen
terriblehondo 1 year ago
@terriblehondo watch my video and youll see who the real God is
SPIRITandTRUTH777 1 year ago
terriblehondo 1 year ago
@terriblehondo they dont need to line up. English is the language of the masses and every major country speaks english, not hebrew or latin. since God is all knowing he used english. Gods to GREAT for you. Accordng to u God has to use hebrew greek or latin. According to God he does w/e he pleases. ahaha
SPIRITandTRUTH777 1 year ago
@SPIRITandTRUTH777 English was not even a language until 900 years after Jesus. God only works if you do not use reason.
terriblehondo 1 year ago
SPIRITandTRUTH777 1 year ago
The teacher had an agenda that didn't belong in the classroom. That's the way it is, regardless of what you believe.
cjc813 1 year ago
There is no such thing as religious freedom. It's an oxymoron. If one has religion - one does NOT have freedom.
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 1 year ago
So I should expect no objectivity what so ever if I watch Fox News?
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 1 year ago
Only in America, folks. Only in America.
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 1 year ago
Although I do think that the teacher was a bit too harsh on opinions he didn't favor, he did make some excellent points which are ,for all intents and purposes, facts. But our buddy Chad here instead sued his ass off like a little pussy instead of critically analyzing his teacher's beliefs wrapped around an insulting form of speech. I'm sure his teacher would have been proud of him if Chad would've questioned his teacher, instead of the whole suing business.
akoolbhatt 1 year ago
Christians... *sigh*
cplusplusish 1 year ago
God, stifle free speech will you (pun intended)...
swisscheesepotatochi 1 year ago
Chad you bitch
KingObould 1 year ago
I'd love to have that guy be my teacher. Although I do think he went a little overboard, especially since his class subject wasn't religion.
hlyleh 1 year ago
This guy reminds me of my History teacher in my Freshmen year. Although he'd never come out and bash religion, he knew it was superstitious nonsense. Although he did bash Republicans quite often.
hlyleh 1 year ago
@hlyleh Sounds like my Bio teacher, except he fucking bashes everything, so you can't sue him for being biased.
Gannon171 10 months ago
Chad, you are a huge homo.
macharius188 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but the rest of the world is very concerned,,,we dont see a lot of difference between this kind of main stream media/fundamentalism is oh so close to islamic fundemantalism..."reading writing and arithmetic" and creationism only!!!
ZaaMixtli1 1 year ago
Teachers are supposed to EDUCATE. They are under no obligation to protect or humor "beliefs". If they are doing their job well, they challenge beliefs with facts, thereby increasing and deepening knowledge.
TheSensuousAtheist 1 year ago
Actually, the kid was completely correct. The teacher is not supposed to denigrate religion either. He is, unfortunately, completely out of line. I would hope that the same thing would happen if some teacher was to start saying that if you don't believe in the christian god, you are a complete idiot. Teachers are not supposed to denigrate anyone's protected beliefs, whether they be religious or political.
flameroller 1 year ago
@flameroller- I agree that the teacher was out of line with some of the comments, but to call creationism nonsense is actually a valid thing to say in a history class as history verifies that the Earth is not 6,000 years old (we have tools and cave paintings that are over 100,000 years old and civilizations that existed long before 4000 BCE). It also shows that there was no flood global 4000 years ago as many civilizations have an unbroken historical record and monuments built during that time.
califoniania 1 year ago
@califoniania Well it is false. Him saying it's false is not a problem at all, as long as he's simply stating how fact is in complete opposition to the belief in question. The problem comes when they start to rant about how stupid it is and how people who believe it are stupid. That has no business in a public school.
flameroller 1 year ago
@flameroller- I can agree with that.
califoniania 1 year ago
why arent people allowed their own opinion?
cjpendleton1993 1 year ago
And if I say in this video that creationism is superstitious nonsense, shall I be sued as well?
hunchbacked 1 year ago
@hunchbacked No, because you are not a government official and the teacher is. I would be just as upset if a teacher at a public school started saying that if anyone here doesn't believe in jesus, they are going to burn in hell. You can't even have religion as a subject discussed in an enforced curriculum. Electives (aka non-mandatory) that deal with religion in an analytical way (such as a comparative religions course) would be acceptable. A lawsuit was a step too far, however.
flameroller 1 year ago
All the evolutionists in here make me ashamed to be a rational atheist. It's like people don't even understand what a theory is, and why it is different from a fact. The "scientific consensus" used to insist that the earth was flat, and that you could cure diseases by exsanguination. But that doesn't give the radical anti-theists a reason to persecute and harass christians in the west. Hey why don't you guys go pick on muslims, see how that works out for you. Tell them mohammed fucks pigs.
turdferguson9725 1 year ago
@turdferguson9725
There was never a scientific consensus that the earth was flat. Science is based on empirical evidence. What empirical evidence has there ever been that the earth was flat? If you actually knew your history you would know that Eratosthenes demonstrated empirically that the Earth was indeed round in ~200B.C. or so. People didn't listen to him.
The flat earthers were adhering to dogma instead of looking at data, kind of like creatinionists...
Plur307 1 year ago
This is bogus. The teacher was just telling the truth.
cbernier3 1 year ago
Funny how the teacher's "rantings" make sense. What an unentitled little prick, I hope someone jacks him in the face.
VinMetal666 1 year ago
@VinMetal666 Are you talking about Chad? Or everyone on Fox News?
cbernier3 1 year ago
This is simply why America is a backwater country
butterboy2304 1 year ago
Christianity is a big part of European History. Especially from the collapse of the Roman empire all through the dark ages into the Renaissance.
Char99 1 year ago
Why didn't Chad just turn the other cheek?
AAL 1 year ago 19
@AAL because Christians are hypocrites.
cbernier3 1 year ago
@AAL
I don't know many christains who do.
hunchbacked 1 year ago
@AAL he never got punched.
SPIRITandTRUTH777 1 year ago
@AAL The pope had him pinned to the mat.
adolthitler 1 year ago
This teacher is a hero, I wish I had him as my teacher back in high school. What an idiot kid, anyone else think he looks like Dylan Klebold?
RySenkari 1 year ago 23
@RySenkari he doesn't look like Dylan, Dylan had a bigger nose.
cplusplusish 1 year ago