Antonio Salieri: Prima la musica, poi le parole - Overture and first duet

[theEmperorsTarot]

There was actually a Friendship between Mozart and Salieri where they actually liked eachother, and Mozart's second son learned music from Salieri, doesn't sound like something enemies would do.

[kreeezle]

This is better than Mozart's Der Schauspieldirektor, just sayin...

[TheOperaguide]

Definitly a great opera, but in my opinion Harnoncournts interpretation is

without soul, his Mozart interpretations are better. On this Cd he also recorded

The Schauspieldirektor and the interpretation is much better. I have heard that Hrnoncournt only wanted to prove Mozart is better than Salieri, and because of that the interpretation of "Prima la musica" is borring, but infact Salieris composition is better than Mozarts.

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@TheOperaguide

true, but where do you know from?

[tyrelroo]

Why are we arguing about an excellent-on-its-own, but otherwise purely fictional, movie, when we could just be enjoying the neglected music of Mozart's friend and less-performed contemporary?

[CharlieDraper]

@alan78456able I'd like to point out that Mozart wrote 'Apollo et Hyacinthus' when he was eleven...

[AdmiralPrussia]

@alan78456able

Salieri's La follia is more skillful than Mozarts eine kleine nachtmusik, yet which is more famous.....

[nordenfan]

@AdmiralPrussia

Thank you! Salieri's XXVI Variations on La Follia is a great, under appreciated masterpiece. Actually quite modern. The best recording of it ever done was The London Symphony under Zoltan Pesko in 1978. I have a cassette of it someplace, but I have never see it on disk.

[xskremniotis]

@alan78456able my dear, in grotta di trofonio - opera comica- are scenes with superb music equal if not superior to D Giovanni...

[Lifeofmusic90]

@xskremniotis Yes!! the second act remember don giovanni and così fan tutte!!!!

[lampardm]

Are some people here seriously quoting 'Amadeus' as a reliable source?

Salieri was a wonderful composer. Yes, he now is remembered in Mozart's shadow, but during his time we was one of the most regarded composers and had great respect for Mozart.

What this clip proves is that Salieri was a composer who could write opera buffa as well as anyone. It was, after all, this opera that was more popular than Mozart's Impressario in a head-to-head competition in 1786.

[TheVanya1900]

The great composer! Salieri's music forgived Salieri in my eyes! Long live Salieri!

[Trickroad]

Salieri is better than mozart!

I think it was mozart who killed Salieri.

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@Trickroad

Bravo!

[besakamel]

I love the syncopated tutti reinforcement in the main exposition, and the mockingly feminine satirical spirit and poignant rythm of the second theme. Salieri was a very intelligent man, well read for his time and a great friend and protector of all the races

[besakamel]

If Holloywood had an artist like Salieri they would elevate him to God status, but since Salieri was an Italian from Legnano, oh my god cant have that!

[anasalwash]

very very beautiful .... BUT SIMPLE compared to Mozart's music , and that's why he hated Mozart so much cos Mozart's music was beyond his time , and you can see that obviously in the movie AMADEUS

[jtelesio]

@anasalwash, The play and movie, Amadeus was FICTION based on real characters and that's all. There is no evidence that there was anything but well-deserved, mutual respect between these two. Perhaps genius is just matter of degrees when their works are compared; remember the best of salieri was probably better than the "pretty good" of Mozart (if there is such a thing!)

[Ardolino21]

@anasalwash you are an idiot for mentioning Amadeus. Amadeus is a fictional film based on real characters.With a terrible American actor who played Mozart, disrespectful if you ask me. The only thing that is good about that film is it brought Salieri's music back into the popular domain...plus. You say it is simple compared to Mozart, I would like to know what you mean there...some Chopin night songs are 'simple' so where does he stand?

[interr28]

See, Salierei was just a good a Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, but the only problem is that Mozart's music was much more reconized in Europe.

[Daniele9887]

Pensare che questa musica è stata messa in scena insieme a quella di Mozart il 7 febbraio del 1786 in una gara tra opera italiana e quella tedesca. Per me, non sarò imparziale, ma niente è più bello della musica italiana.

[MrCosmoe]

io sono tedesco, però devo amettere che aveva il più bello testo (casti è un vero genio, tanto meglio di Da Ponte). con forza si doveva anche scrivere la più bella musica.

ma, come io sono anche musicologo, devo dire che non era una gara. era "solo" uno spettacolo in Castello Schönbrunn.

[Daniele9887]

@MrCosmoe Assolutamente hai ragione. Poi vorrei precisare, probabilmente ho sbagliato, non esiste una musica "più bella di un'altra", tutte hanno la loro particolarità; poi se si parla di due colossi come la musica italiana e quella tedesca devo ammettere che sono entrambe su livelli altissimi.

[MrCosmoe]

attualmente mi occupo con "così fan tutte" - hai saputo che salieri ha provato di mettere in musica il libretto di da ponte prima di mozart? e lui non e' riuscito! esistono due arie che ha composto in novembre dell'anno 1789- dopo non aveva piu' idee. e dopo ha cominciato a odiare mozart. li' secondo me si potrebbe veramente meglio parlare di una gara. :)

[Lifeofmusic90]

@Daniele9887 ma ancora non ho capito una cosa...chi vinse!??!?!!?

[ivanhaydn]

all his overtures are wonderful... thank you Astardis...

[princesslithium]

Maestro Salieri feel jealous of Mozart no more . Truly a worthy opponent.

[xr1983kr]

sentite...la parola "ostinato" 4:19 che musica virile!

[baculkar]

Absolutly wonderful - can you post more videos from this opera???

[xr1983kr]

il duetto e' troppo geniale...

[Meyerbeer1]

Wonderful, Salieri is soo good!