Yep. I saw your posts already. Lame, can you not muster out an original thought or statement to try and uphold your beliefs rather than simply point people to misinformation.
damn dude... you must be pissed off. 36 comments.... WTF? lol It will not change truth buddy. Flood the forum all you want, people already know wassup.
@naneux I do not want to argue and try to persuade you to believe in God. It’s purely your decision. Either believe or not.One day everyone will stand before God, so will see who was right and who was wrong.As I said earlier ask God and read His wordI.If you do not want to do this,then why you bother me with questions that you can find yourself in Bible?Did you read passages from bible I wrote earlier?
@Igorius86 You dont need to try and persuade me of anything, nor do I you. You can believe it all you want, but that is not to say you know. You believe one day everyone will stand before god, you dont know this. I did not bother you with questions! I am illustrating the absurdity of the claims you made.
Everything in this film about Christianity is shameless deception!!!Do not be naïve and foolish.God prohibits worshiping sun and alike.Read NKJV Deuteronomy(Deut) 4:15-19;Deut 17:1-5; 2 Chronicles14:1-5;Job 31:21-28;Isaiah27:9;Ezekiel6:1-6;Ezekiel8:16-1;Job 25:5.
Jesus said 2000 yrs ago that in the last days will be a lot of deception, thus be aware!Study Bible and history and you will see yourself that Christianity is real and true!
Think why Christians always have been persecuted for truth?
@naneux I study the Bible and believe in Jesus Christ. I am not supid to believe in what does not exist. Reality of God's proven not just in history, but also in my personal life and in lives of many other people I know. Staments about non-existence of Jesus Christ the same as the earth stands on three whales :)
@Igorius86 I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
"Staments about non-existence of Jesus Christ the same as the earth stands on three whales :)"
Reality of god is not proven through history. Pffft... if anything, the history of the planet is sufficient evidence to prove god does not exist. In all of man's time, no deity has ever crawled, slithered or walked upon the earth.
@Igorius86 It is subjective. You cannot summon god to the channel four news for an objective and scrutinizing interview! The truth is not jesus, rather, horus. Or Mithras, or buddha, or the sun...
@naneux "The truth is not jesus, rather, horus. Or Mithras, or buddha, or the sun..." you are spiritually blind and lost, but only Jesus can heal you.
Skeptic magazine's Tim Callahan criticizing the first part of the film (on the origins of Christianity) wrote that "some of what it asserts is true. Unfortunately, this material is liberally — and sloppily — mixed with material that is only partially true and much that is plainly and simply bogus. […] Zeitgeist is The Da Vinci Code on steroids."
@Igorius86 And yet, if I were to list scholars who purport this material as true and correct, you would simply find more who do not purport it as true and correct. Ping Pong.
Instead of playing ping pong with scholars, why not show HOW the material is incorrect?
@naneux OK, firstly make sure you are without prejudice. Secondly, watch the movies I found in youtube. Finaly, read the passages from the Bible (NKJV) I wrote earlier where God prohibits worshipping the sun and the moon, and the stars and all other gods. So why should christians do it if the Bible the holy authority for christians? All these passages taken from the Old Testament, so ages before the ancient christians followed Jesus.
@Igorius86 If you like the OT, then you must like the cure for leprosy being birds blood and an incantation. You must also like slaves, and fags, and incest, and beating people left and right including a disobedient daughter. Yes all this and plenty more can be found in the bible, the OT.
@naneux incantation? incest? slaves? You do not know what you are talking about. Just because it there it does not mean God likes it. So what God's position to all that? You do not know because you do not read bible. ... in OT and NT also written about sexual immorality including gay and other dirty stuff. Do not you want to say that God likes it just because it is written there? If you trully want to understand the truth ask God to show you that. Also read bible, 'cause it's God's word
@Igorius86 I dont know what I am talking about because you have the arrogance to believe that you know what god wants. No. You do not know what youre talking about. I asked god if he likes all that gay and incest stuff in his bible... he says yea. Hes all fucked up. Just because we got long hair doesnt mean were criminals! I have read it. It is there, interpretation is fundamental when reading the bible. You would think a powerful god would not leave room for misinterpretation.
@naneux "I asked god if he likes all that gay and incest stuff in his bible... he says yea" Oh, my goodness, how He could tell you that? God would not tell you that, because God hates the sin of homosexuality and other sexual immorality sins. At least you may find it in Romans chapter 1.
@naneux "because you have the arrogance to believe that you know what god wants." First of all I am not an arrogant person. If my statements did sound as arrogant ones, I can assure that I did not intend it. If you say that I have arrogance because I claim to say that I know what God wants, then you’re not right. The bible is the word of God; therefore if you study it, you know what God wants. At least you know a bare minimum.
Im not even gonna touch that because goddammit.... facepalm.....
That comment implies your uncertainty in your claims. You do not know its the word of god, youve been studying the writings of men. Like i said, if the bible is gods word, then god is pretty stupid. Getting things like pi incorrect.
@Igorius86 LOL So you like homosexuality, incest and keeping and beating slaves. You believe the earth was created in a few days? You believe plants were on earth before light?!
@naneux "So you like homosexuality, incest and keeping and beating slaves" I do not like it because God does not like it. I read the whole bible, therefore absolutely sure about it.
@Igorius86 "God does not like it" - more arrogance. Reading the bible does not mean you know what god likes! And the bible is not the word of god, i dont think a god could be that stupid. Do you really believe god likes curing leprosy with birds blood and an incantation? You can read the bible back to front, it does not mean what you read is the word of god. Half way around the world they have another text that is "the word of god" whos word of god is the real word of god?
@naneux "it does not mean what you read is the word of god" Better research that area yourself.You can find a lot of explanation on it.
Just a little a bit: "Thus says the Lord" occurs over 400 times in the Old Testament. "God said" occurs 42 times in the Old Testament and four times in the New Testament.
"God spoke" occurs 9 times in the Old Testament and 3 times in the New Testament.
"The Spirit of the Lord spoke" through people in 2Sam.23:2;1 Kings 22:24;2 Chron.20:14.
Like I said, if you believe god talks to you, why do you not believe that he hath spoken to me as well and has bestowed upon me a message of great relevance. Whomever worships the false idol that bares the name "christ" and moreover, whomever does not humble themselves and admits to not knowing whether or not he exists, will surely not exceed the righteousness of the pharisees. God said that. For reals. So that leaves you pretty much....... f u c k e d.
@naneux Who’s your god? You are talking about the other god. God cannot say something what is against His word, therefore I don’t believe that God has spoken to you. Satan can speak too. Remember he spoke to Jesus in the desert tempting Him? Interesting thing that Jesus answered to satan taking the words from bible, one more time it proves that bible it the word of God!
@Igorius86 So you are denying that I talked to god. Thats easy huh. Guess what, you didnt talk to god either, you talked to the serpent christ and are perpetuating his word. You and all christians are liars for Satan. I spoke to god and he confirms this. You are just jealous, just like a sinner.
@Igorius86 Dont want one. gods are like pets, messy, they dont pay attention to you except when it is convenient for them, they shit all over the place and leave remnants of their philosophy on earth for humans to clean. Its pathetic. Who would want a god? Its silly. Its a comfort zone for those unable to rationalize existence.
@Igorius86 Unreliable source? Unlike the bible's claims, the sources for the claims asserted in the zeitgeist film can be traced and verified through concrete and physical proof.
@Igorius86 My zeitgeist! Lol its not a religion buddy, just a film that began a scrutinizing movement of any and all religious claims. Zeitgeist or not, I was spouting this information before the movie was released, scholars wrote over the same subject before the movie was released, and all deities mentioned died before the movie was released, placed in the mass grave we call mythology.
@Igorius86 We done here troll? Ive seen the likes of you in other forums spouting the same nonsense.
I have no idea what the last comment meant, im done here, youve illustrated perfectly what it is xtians are defending, absurdities to comfort their own sense of uncertainty.
@naneux I would never defend a lie. I would never defend a lie. Yes, you’re right Jesus is my comfort zone, but you’re not right that I am uncertain about what expects me in the future with God.
@Igorius86 Believing in god as the savior in an afterlife is defending a lie. This is what you are uncertain about, hence your worship of a false christ.
@Igorius86 I did answer your question, in a blatant manner at that.
I do not have a god, do not need a god, would not want a god. god is not real and serves no purpose. That is like asking me, who is your fairytale? .... o_0 .. The question alone defies logic. Why should anyone require a fairytale or god? They are beliefs humans choose to uphold.
@naneux I worship Christ the King of kings, the Lord of lords, Christ who has conquered the power of death. Christ who has saved me, Christ who loves me and you, Christ who heals me, Christ who waits me..He is real Christ!
@Igorius86 Again, you are speaking about a false christ. You have no idea, once again, I quietly bowed my head in prayer and asked god to see if the christ Igorius86 is worshiping, is the real one, he insists you are worshiping a false christ and humbly asks that you cease and desist from doing so. Lest your soul be transferred to my jars... or briefcase whatever.
@naneux I told u a lot(I cannot really spend my time on that argument with you about God anymore.I don’t think I will be here again having conversation with you, but I am sure that you are intelligent enough to find out more yourself.I hope one day you will understand the real truth and you will give your soul to Jesus Christ so that to be saved. Whether you believe it or not He is God and He loves you anyway)Finally I want to bless you again in the name of Jesus Christ!!! Let He open your mind!
@Igorius86 I have repeated myself as well. I hope that the message from the real christ almighty reaches your stubborn satanized mindset. As per the lord, I hope you heed his warning and start to do a little research and realize the history of the lord, and that the history of the lord is in this earth, traceable to bloodlines that flow within me. lol Not in the bible.
@naneux "Do you really believe god likes curing leprosy with birds blood and an incantation?" You do not understand the fundamental things. Birds blood/sacrifice was for the forgiveness of sin.The price for sin is death.The price for sin has to paid.Jesus shed His blood for us,so He bore death instead us.Therefore those who believe in Him will not perish,but will have an eternal life.Now we don’t have to bring sacrifice for our sins,because Jesus is our sacrifice.
@Igorius86 Way to get around that question. Trying to cure leprosy with birds blood and an incantation, however you would like to spin it, is as stupid as curing the flu with aids.
@naneux "God does not like it" - more arrogance. =D you make me laugh.
"Reading the bible does not mean you know what god likes!"
If I write a book expressing my thoughts, life experience, like and dislikes etc –will you be able to say what I like and dislike referring to my book?No doubt! So, why I cannot say what God likes and dislikes by referring to His word written through his servants who were inspired by the Holy Spirit?
@Igorius86 Thanks, I like blessings, they tickle my soul. PFfft.... tickle my soul. Wait, I now have YOUR soul. You probably believe in souls dont ya. Guess what, you dont have to worry about your soul, its mine already, look, its in my briefcase! There ya are!!! Trusty ol soul.
@Igorius86 Wrong, your soul is mine. Its in my briefcase for safekeeping. Maybe ill use it this Halloween!
I would use some caution when speaking about your so called god. I done told ya already you are worshiping the false christ, god told me so. Whether you deny it or not, it does not deplete the truth.
@Igorius86 Does the nonsense ever stop!!! lol Your soul is not protected friend, not after having spoken to me. Beware. Souls are for the taking, especially if they worship false christs!
@naneux Yeah, if you worship false christs then of course your soul is not protected and real satan holds it. Since I worship the real and alive Jesus Christ my soul is protected by Him forever. Period!
@Igorius86 If you wrote a book... wait.. god did not write a book, neither could jesus, illiterate motherfuckers. They need some schooling. Hopefully that was good for a laugh, i know I laughed. You cannot say what god wants because you dont know what he wants, or if it even wants, shit, if it even exists, its pure arrogance to think you know the mind of something that doesnt exist, if not ignorance.
Again you miss points from my comments. He inspired men to write. God cannot write?!Are being serious?Almighty God?Oh, dear..So, how He has given the 10 commandments to Moses written by Him? Also He wrote on a wall to one of the Syrian kings (I cannot remember the name of that king). Do not lower God, it’s a foolish idea.
@Igorius86 He didnt give ten commandments, its a story based on faith. Not fact. And if god can write, how is it he cannot concisely muster out a book that does not hinge on interpretation?
Because he did not muster such a book, is the reason you and I are speaking over such a subject.
@naneux everytime the same verse can speak differently to your heard. God's word is too difficult for atheist to understand, whilst He reveals mysteries to His people.
@naneux "You believe the earth was created in a few days? Yes, I do because God is almighty and if He says He created everything in 6 days, then it is true. I know it may sound for you odd, but this is just because you do not believe in it. When you believe in God, you believe in everything what He says, otherwise you do not believe.
@naneux "You believe plants were on earth before light?!" No, the light was created earlier. You may read in in Genesis first chapters, the universal creature.
God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?
I can assume that God’s glory shined on the earth. In Revelation 21:23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. (New International Version (NIV)Revelation 22:5There will be no more night.They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.
@naneux "And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?" On the Earth we have polar nights and polar days (from 24hours to 6months), but it does not mean that the calendar days stops there. If it is a polar day, they still have so-called evenings and nights, and then the mornings and the days, and then again evenings and nights, yet always sun shine. The same for with the polar night, they have so-called days whilst it is dark.
@Igorius86 "yet always sun shine. The same for with the polar night, they have so-called days whilst it is dark."
FACEPALM! Without a sun there is no light. Period. No sun, no polar night, lol, or polar day... lmao. How can that get passed you, ... oh wait.. you believe in god. That is as illogical as a polar day.. without a sun. Pfft. Are you serious with this?
@naneux I told you already that I believe in God and I believe in everything He tells. I have no doubt in Him. For you only the sun can produce light. I have more than sun.
@Igorius86 In Genesis, the earth is created (1:1) before light (1:3), sun and stars (1:16); birds and whales (1:21) before reptiles and insects (1:24); and flowering plants (1:11) before any animals (1:20). The order of events known from science is in each case just the opposite.
@naneux "birds and whales (1:21) before reptiles and insects (1:24); and flowering plants (1:11) before any animals... "
Didn’t you know that before the Adam and Eve have sinned there earth operated in a different way?There was no death, there was no destruction. Thus birds and whales did not need reptiles and insects as they need now in order to satisfy their hunger. The same applies for everything else you listed.
@Igorius86 So earth operated in a "different way" before adam and eve... OMG! The show continues.
"There was no death."
Scientific fact: 99.9 percent of all species that have ever existed are now extinct.
So yes, there was death. Yes, there was destruction. If whales could not eat, they die. Go out and perform a field test, observe whales and catch one that has not eaten, its probably dead, the others are eating and mating, and always have been. FACEPALM!
You are talking about now, but I am talking about time before Adam and Eve sinned, and before God cursed the earth for their sin. Please more attention when you read.
@Igorius86 I did pay attention buddy, god did not curse the earth, god was invented by man. No deity has ever crawled, slithered or walked upon this earth. Your saying that things worked differently before sin... ill entertain that notion, if things worked differently, why not say ice cream shitting tacos existed and their presence is forever lost because of mistranslations of the word.
Chris Forbes,Senior lecturer in Ancient History of Macquarie University and member of the Synod of the Diocese of Sydney,severely criticized the movie,asserting that it has no basis in serious scholarship or ancient sources,and that it relies on amateur sources that recycle frivolous ideas from one another,rather than serious academic sources,commenting"It is extraordinary how many claims it makes which are simply NOT true.Similar conclusions were reached by DrMark Foreman of Liberty University
I can't believe I believed this crap at one time, It was pulled from a book that was guessed at or made up, please check out my video that I didn't pull out of my ass and actually spent a day getting my facts straight.
Much of what Christian religions teach is of pagan origin and has nothing to do with what the Bible actually teaches, all it takes is a little carefull study to work this out. Christmas, Easter, the teaching of hellfire etc, are all false & of pagan origin, yet we all partake and believe this crap without a thought!
A religion that aknowledges these facts, must be God's true earthly organisation. There is one God, so there must be one group of people teaching the truth. Someone please help me.
@RamHatx now according to astronomical data mahabharata war happened 5000yrs back and dwaraka , which was the city of krishna was found on the ocean bead of arabian sea near gujarat and it is estimated that it is more than 10k+ yrs old. there are many approximations on when the war happendsome even say 12kyrs back. but 2 me the most valid answer is 5k+ yrs. search u-tube 4 "When did the Mahabharata War Happen" and watch the 8-part series if u wanna know if krishna truly existed.
@RamHatx its like this>>think of bunch of examinees sitting in a hall & taking exam,one guy(X) among themstudied well and others didnt,now out of desperation others copied from X. since the evaluator is clever &debar these otherguys if found guilty,these guys modified X's answers added masala,twisted answers andfinally giving it newlook.zeitgeists were desperate 2 equate all stories just 2 prove their point&failed.now which 1 is X nobody knows clearly.
@RamHatx hi ignoramus,i said devaki was not virgin.you, no matter what wants to believe that devaki was a virgin. devaki in bhagavatha purana was potrayed as pure hearted woman , chaste woman (morally pure) and never shown that she was virgin. moreover i never disagreed with the story that vishnu himself decended & blablablabla (if u belive in such stuff) which was written in the same purana. and yes there r a lot of similarities between these stories.
Most of the named divinities, deities, Gods, persons listed at the one of the video are just that - stories and tales that no one has any hard evidence of their lives, let alone their birth dates.....and even researching the many tales of these, only Attis came close to being born without male input, but not even any suggestion that his mother was a virgin. So not sure what the aim of the video was? maybe some attempt at sensationalism?
Horus - there is no evidence of any birth since he was a God 3. Horus is an ancient Egpytian deity, born to the goddess Isis.
4. There is no historcial evidence to show thart Jesus's birth was on Dec 25th - the closest two independent studies have come so far is between 7–2 BC .
Here's a few facts though: 1. Based on scriptural details and astrological calculations the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[45] is 19 July 3228 BCE and departed on 3102 BCE.......was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva (Wikipedia) 2. Dionysus was the God of Grape Harvest, also had a cult Greek following. He was one of the 12 Olympian Gods, not 12 disciples.
For eample - Attis - born of a virgin ...the actual story is that the Olympian Gods fearing Agdistis cut off his genitals, which fell to the ground and gre into an almond tree, from which a woman (Nana) ate an almond and became impregnated with a boy Attis, which she abandonned and was brough up by a he-goat. Attis had a Greek cult following. What I'm saying here is that, if this had been included into the video, it might have lost a lot of credibility of being real.
What one needs to remember is that there are many tales (myths) portrayed over thousands of years and the passing/interpretations of those stories - are they real? Could they be interpreted as in the same vein as others???
Isaiah 14v12 kjv the morning star. Revelation 22v 16 the morning star. Who can set beside God without falling. Maybe that is why, they all think the end is coming. I don't hate the christain's, but i fell for them. For they made a image before them. And it blocked them from the truth. For the old book's told us ,of this a long time ago. For you may have some truth here. For this was done, so many time's.
Either the information in this video is accurate or it's not. What is the objective answer? What is the real answer? Are these characteristics accurate for these godly figures or not?
If they are, then the Jesus story can be considered a myth just like all the others.
what rubbish. krishna was not born to virgin. he was not ressurrected after his death. krishna was born in a prison. 6 of his brothers were killed right after their birth by their uncle(devaki's brother kamsa).7th child was rescued and given to rohini.after krisna's birth he was taken from prison& given to yasodha and nanda to raise and in return yasodha's child was taken back to prison where the child was kiled by kamsa. this is how krisna was born, dont beliece this info show in this video
Verse 27-33 "Seeing that Rama had left, Krishna finding a pippala TREE, sat silently down on the lap of the earth...Having the form a deer's face, HIS FEET WERE THEN PIERCED by an arrow of a hunter named Jara who thought he saw a deer."
He dies, and in the next chapter ascends into Heaven.
Can i say this, at least, the video is not a credible source of information for multiple reasons, a few being this, Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th, this is easily provable and just google his birthday and you can find that the months august and september seem to be more likely based on star charts...secondly, sunday was not the day of worship for the jews. The day of worship was actually saturday, it was changed to sunday by the catholic church way, way back, but much after Jesus' time.
@c0rwin24 and on top of that, fourthly, the bible never actually mentions how many kings came to see him...these 4 facts alone can show that the conclusions this video, and all of the conclusiosn made in the zeitgeist film are conclusions that only those blinded to the truth came accept. History shows many of these other so called facts about the other Gods to be completely false as well...if it were true, the story of Jesus wouldnt of been so quickly spread and accepted in the apostles time
@naneux Doesnt mean virign in some stories she was conceived throughthe magic phalisis and so she could not give birth before that she was steile doesnt mena virign. Virign means unconsmated sex
Also, Isis is referred to as "Great Virgin" at the temple of Seti I at Abydos, Egypt, which was built circa 1300 BC and in later Egyptian traditions, Isis is associated with the constellation of Virgo - whom we know as the "Virgin". I wish Christians would simply accept that it is not heresy to suggest that Christianity, in its attempt to establish itself as a dominant religion, had no choice but to assimilate some of the earlier, older traditions in order to ultimately usurp them! Evolution!
And isn't Jesus alleged to have said something like "Nobody comes to the father except through me"? ... Likewise, nobody achieves Re (ascension into Heaven) without passing through the Kingdom of Osiris (also known as Horus) ... In fact Horus rises up out of Osiris ... like God the Father and God the Son ... doesn't this all sound a little familiar to Christians? Osiris was resurrected or "restored to life" after "3 days in the waters". Look in the Bible at Jonah 2:1 and Hosea 6:2
Born on December 25 - Not true. He was born on the 5th day of the "Epagomenal Days" which takes place between August 24th and 28th on the modern calendar. Also, the Egyptians used a different calendar, thus didn't have a December
Born of a virgin - Not true. His father was Osris, who was killed by his brother Seth. Isis (Horus' mother) used a spell to bring him back to life for a short time so they could have sex, in which they conceived Horus.
Star in the east / 3 kings / baptised at 30 / walked on water / "Lamb of God"/"The Light" - I have found no evidence supporting or contradicting this. The lack of evidence indicates to me that these have been completely made up.
12 disciples - Not true. He had 4 semi-divine disciples and 16 human followers.
Crucified / Dead for 3 days / Resurrected - Not true. He never died. He only later merges with Ra (the sun god of Egypt; Horus was actually the sky god)
@streings In the Pyramid texts of Unas, the earliest, complete and authorative corpus of Heliopolitanism, the Osirian rebirth and Solar illumination of the divine king are described. It is clear ascension to Re is impossible without passing through the kingdom of Osiris. Re is the state of "illumination", the acension of the soul to what Christians call Heaven. It is Osiris who is resurrected after "3 days & nights in the water", but Horus ascends out of Osiris' corpse ...God the father & son!
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." John 3:16-17
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Ever been called up at 3 am because a demon was scratching words on a young Wikken girl's back. And after you arrived saw the scratches appear for 30 minutes on her right in front of your eyes after while batteries in the cameras of others around you died? I have. And God was the reason that it left. I have to say, I agree with a lot that is here, but not the religious aspect. I used to be an athiest but God has set me free. And He is coming back. And yes, I have seen more than this too.
Do the research your selves people stop using emotion to form your opinions, christianity is a plagerism of the ancients religions, theres plenty of info everywhere do the research yourself we dont want you to believe us we want you to prove us wrong. Come with facts not stupid phrases like "Oh thats made up" or oh it possibly couldnt be true, Christianity existed before christ, the question is how?
The "zeitgeist" has been debunked. Once again scientists/informants lie to me and you in in attempt to discredit Christianity. Why? Because they don't want to accept it.
Thank you for expressing your opinion. For further information check out the sources which I've now added to the 'more info' section to have a more informed point of view ^^
Watch out people,this is all fake,go check yourself.....shame on the people who created this....and what @shedendpussys isn't his opinion,is a fact,he's right,no ancient text says any of this,this is made up!
I know a countdown when I see one... im skiddaddling outta here!!
naneux 1 week ago
If only you would put that skill to use.. flooding is all nineties. lol
naneux 1 week ago
LOL oh shit! .... now its 34.... PFFFFTTT..... common buddy.. seriously?
naneux 1 week ago
I think you do not have the capacity.
naneux 1 week ago
Yep. I saw your posts already. Lame, can you not muster out an original thought or statement to try and uphold your beliefs rather than simply point people to misinformation.
naneux 1 week ago
damn dude... you must be pissed off. 36 comments.... WTF? lol It will not change truth buddy. Flood the forum all you want, people already know wassup.
naneux 1 week ago
Ill check in with ya tomorrow. ; )
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux I do not want to argue and try to persuade you to believe in God. It’s purely your decision. Either believe or not.One day everyone will stand before God, so will see who was right and who was wrong.As I said earlier ask God and read His wordI.If you do not want to do this,then why you bother me with questions that you can find yourself in Bible?Did you read passages from bible I wrote earlier?
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 You dont need to try and persuade me of anything, nor do I you. You can believe it all you want, but that is not to say you know. You believe one day everyone will stand before god, you dont know this. I did not bother you with questions! I am illustrating the absurdity of the claims you made.
naneux 1 week ago
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"I am the bride and the virgin."
III-IV century before Christ Found in Nag Hammadi, Egypt
naneux 2 weeks ago
in response to that nonsense to defeat the lie against Jesus Christ watch if you want to see the real truth!
youtube.com/watch?v=KD40xi9KdqE&feature=related
Also watch
youtube.com/watch?v=ej_coXEnKEI&feature=related
Igorius86 2 weeks ago
@Igorius86 First link is dead, at least I cant get to it.
Second link is also dead and only takes me to the home page.
naneux 2 weeks ago
@naneux please add the usual stuff like three w's etc. Alternatively find these movies by the title
Zeitgeist Refuted (1 of 10) and
ZEITGEIST and JESUS - Exposing the Lie
Igorius86 1 week ago
Everything in this film about Christianity is shameless deception!!!Do not be naïve and foolish.God prohibits worshiping sun and alike.Read NKJV Deuteronomy(Deut) 4:15-19;Deut 17:1-5; 2 Chronicles14:1-5;Job 31:21-28;Isaiah27:9;Ezekiel6:1-6;Ezekiel8:16-1;Job 25:5.
Jesus said 2000 yrs ago that in the last days will be a lot of deception, thus be aware!Study Bible and history and you will see yourself that Christianity is real and true!
Think why Christians always have been persecuted for truth?
Igorius86 2 weeks ago
@Igorius86 Jeebus is claimed to have said many things.
If one studies the bible, he/she will definitely be aware of the deception instilled in the human mind.
christians are persecuted for truth because they have no truth except that which is subjective.
naneux 2 weeks ago
@naneux I study the Bible and believe in Jesus Christ. I am not supid to believe in what does not exist. Reality of God's proven not just in history, but also in my personal life and in lives of many other people I know. Staments about non-existence of Jesus Christ the same as the earth stands on three whales :)
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 "I am not supid to believe in what does not exist."
O_o OH THE IRONY IS KILLING ME!
naneux 1 week ago
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@Igorius86 I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
"Staments about non-existence of Jesus Christ the same as the earth stands on three whales :)"
Reality of god is not proven through history. Pffft... if anything, the history of the planet is sufficient evidence to prove god does not exist. In all of man's time, no deity has ever crawled, slithered or walked upon the earth.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux It cannot be subjective because of the amount of christians since the AD. The truth is Jesus.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 It is subjective. You cannot summon god to the channel four news for an objective and scrutinizing interview! The truth is not jesus, rather, horus. Or Mithras, or buddha, or the sun...
naneux 1 week ago
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@naneux "The truth is not jesus, rather, horus. Or Mithras, or buddha, or the sun..." you are spiritually blind and lost, but only Jesus can heal you.
Igorius86 1 week ago
Skeptic magazine's Tim Callahan criticizing the first part of the film (on the origins of Christianity) wrote that "some of what it asserts is true. Unfortunately, this material is liberally — and sloppily — mixed with material that is only partially true and much that is plainly and simply bogus. […] Zeitgeist is The Da Vinci Code on steroids."
Igorius86 2 weeks ago
@Igorius86 And yet, if I were to list scholars who purport this material as true and correct, you would simply find more who do not purport it as true and correct. Ping Pong.
Instead of playing ping pong with scholars, why not show HOW the material is incorrect?
naneux 2 weeks ago
@naneux OK, firstly make sure you are without prejudice. Secondly, watch the movies I found in youtube. Finaly, read the passages from the Bible (NKJV) I wrote earlier where God prohibits worshipping the sun and the moon, and the stars and all other gods. So why should christians do it if the Bible the holy authority for christians? All these passages taken from the Old Testament, so ages before the ancient christians followed Jesus.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 If you like the OT, then you must like the cure for leprosy being birds blood and an incantation. You must also like slaves, and fags, and incest, and beating people left and right including a disobedient daughter. Yes all this and plenty more can be found in the bible, the OT.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux incantation? incest? slaves? You do not know what you are talking about. Just because it there it does not mean God likes it. So what God's position to all that? You do not know because you do not read bible. ... in OT and NT also written about sexual immorality including gay and other dirty stuff. Do not you want to say that God likes it just because it is written there? If you trully want to understand the truth ask God to show you that. Also read bible, 'cause it's God's word
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 I dont know what I am talking about because you have the arrogance to believe that you know what god wants. No. You do not know what youre talking about. I asked god if he likes all that gay and incest stuff in his bible... he says yea. Hes all fucked up. Just because we got long hair doesnt mean were criminals! I have read it. It is there, interpretation is fundamental when reading the bible. You would think a powerful god would not leave room for misinterpretation.
naneux 1 week ago
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@naneux "I asked god if he likes all that gay and incest stuff in his bible... he says yea" Oh, my goodness, how He could tell you that? God would not tell you that, because God hates the sin of homosexuality and other sexual immorality sins. At least you may find it in Romans chapter 1.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@naneux "because you have the arrogance to believe that you know what god wants." First of all I am not an arrogant person. If my statements did sound as arrogant ones, I can assure that I did not intend it. If you say that I have arrogance because I claim to say that I know what God wants, then you’re not right. The bible is the word of God; therefore if you study it, you know what God wants. At least you know a bare minimum.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 "At least a bare minimum!"
Im not even gonna touch that because goddammit.... facepalm.....
That comment implies your uncertainty in your claims. You do not know its the word of god, youve been studying the writings of men. Like i said, if the bible is gods word, then god is pretty stupid. Getting things like pi incorrect.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux I forgot to say that I like the whole bible, OT+NT, but not just pieces from here and there.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 LOL So you like homosexuality, incest and keeping and beating slaves. You believe the earth was created in a few days? You believe plants were on earth before light?!
Pffft...
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "So you like homosexuality, incest and keeping and beating slaves" I do not like it because God does not like it. I read the whole bible, therefore absolutely sure about it.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 "God does not like it" - more arrogance. Reading the bible does not mean you know what god likes! And the bible is not the word of god, i dont think a god could be that stupid. Do you really believe god likes curing leprosy with birds blood and an incantation? You can read the bible back to front, it does not mean what you read is the word of god. Half way around the world they have another text that is "the word of god" whos word of god is the real word of god?
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "it does not mean what you read is the word of god" Better research that area yourself.You can find a lot of explanation on it.
Just a little a bit: "Thus says the Lord" occurs over 400 times in the Old Testament. "God said" occurs 42 times in the Old Testament and four times in the New Testament.
"God spoke" occurs 9 times in the Old Testament and 3 times in the New Testament.
"The Spirit of the Lord spoke" through people in 2Sam.23:2;1 Kings 22:24;2 Chron.20:14.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@naneux
• Matt 15:6, "he is not to honor his father or his mother. And thus you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition."
• Mark 7:13, "thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”
• John 10:35 “If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)."
So the bible is the word of God!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 The bible is not the word of god, it was written by men who claim that it is the word of god.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux men inspired by Holy Spirit
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Heresay.
Like I said, if you believe god talks to you, why do you not believe that he hath spoken to me as well and has bestowed upon me a message of great relevance. Whomever worships the false idol that bares the name "christ" and moreover, whomever does not humble themselves and admits to not knowing whether or not he exists, will surely not exceed the righteousness of the pharisees. God said that. For reals. So that leaves you pretty much....... f u c k e d.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux Who’s your god? You are talking about the other god. God cannot say something what is against His word, therefore I don’t believe that God has spoken to you. Satan can speak too. Remember he spoke to Jesus in the desert tempting Him? Interesting thing that Jesus answered to satan taking the words from bible, one more time it proves that bible it the word of God!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 So you are denying that I talked to god. Thats easy huh. Guess what, you didnt talk to god either, you talked to the serpent christ and are perpetuating his word. You and all christians are liars for Satan. I spoke to god and he confirms this. You are just jealous, just like a sinner.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux Can I ask you who is your god?
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Dont want one. gods are like pets, messy, they dont pay attention to you except when it is convenient for them, they shit all over the place and leave remnants of their philosophy on earth for humans to clean. Its pathetic. Who would want a god? Its silly. Its a comfort zone for those unable to rationalize existence.
naneux 1 week ago
@Igorius86 "Interesting thing that Jesus answered to satan taking the words from bible,"
This isnt new, jesus is so unoriginal, he plagiarizes anything he gets his hands on!!
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux you say that because you rely on that stupid movie which is purely unreliable source.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Unreliable source? Unlike the bible's claims, the sources for the claims asserted in the zeitgeist film can be traced and verified through concrete and physical proof.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux Earlier I posted titles of a couple of movies. Have you seen it? It destroys your zeitgeist.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 My zeitgeist! Lol its not a religion buddy, just a film that began a scrutinizing movement of any and all religious claims. Zeitgeist or not, I was spouting this information before the movie was released, scholars wrote over the same subject before the movie was released, and all deities mentioned died before the movie was released, placed in the mass grave we call mythology.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux zeitgeist is the religion for atheists! lol
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 "zeitgeist is the religion for atheists"
Yea, that would be a contradicting statement. Damn dude. Christ does not teach logic.
naneux 1 week ago
@Igorius86 We done here troll? Ive seen the likes of you in other forums spouting the same nonsense.
I have no idea what the last comment meant, im done here, youve illustrated perfectly what it is xtians are defending, absurdities to comfort their own sense of uncertainty.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux I would never defend a lie. I would never defend a lie. Yes, you’re right Jesus is my comfort zone, but you’re not right that I am uncertain about what expects me in the future with God.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Believing in god as the savior in an afterlife is defending a lie. This is what you are uncertain about, hence your worship of a false christ.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux No, you're not right about it...... You did not answer my question about who is your god?
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 I did answer your question, in a blatant manner at that.
I do not have a god, do not need a god, would not want a god. god is not real and serves no purpose. That is like asking me, who is your fairytale? .... o_0 .. The question alone defies logic. Why should anyone require a fairytale or god? They are beliefs humans choose to uphold.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux I worship Christ the King of kings, the Lord of lords, Christ who has conquered the power of death. Christ who has saved me, Christ who loves me and you, Christ who heals me, Christ who waits me..He is real Christ!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Again, you are speaking about a false christ. You have no idea, once again, I quietly bowed my head in prayer and asked god to see if the christ Igorius86 is worshiping, is the real one, he insists you are worshiping a false christ and humbly asks that you cease and desist from doing so. Lest your soul be transferred to my jars... or briefcase whatever.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux I told u a lot(I cannot really spend my time on that argument with you about God anymore.I don’t think I will be here again having conversation with you, but I am sure that you are intelligent enough to find out more yourself.I hope one day you will understand the real truth and you will give your soul to Jesus Christ so that to be saved. Whether you believe it or not He is God and He loves you anyway)Finally I want to bless you again in the name of Jesus Christ!!! Let He open your mind!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 I have repeated myself as well. I hope that the message from the real christ almighty reaches your stubborn satanized mindset. As per the lord, I hope you heed his warning and start to do a little research and realize the history of the lord, and that the history of the lord is in this earth, traceable to bloodlines that flow within me. lol Not in the bible.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "Do you really believe god likes curing leprosy with birds blood and an incantation?" You do not understand the fundamental things. Birds blood/sacrifice was for the forgiveness of sin.The price for sin is death.The price for sin has to paid.Jesus shed His blood for us,so He bore death instead us.Therefore those who believe in Him will not perish,but will have an eternal life.Now we don’t have to bring sacrifice for our sins,because Jesus is our sacrifice.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Way to get around that question. Trying to cure leprosy with birds blood and an incantation, however you would like to spin it, is as stupid as curing the flu with aids.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "God does not like it" - more arrogance. =D you make me laugh.
"Reading the bible does not mean you know what god likes!"
If I write a book expressing my thoughts, life experience, like and dislikes etc –will you be able to say what I like and dislike referring to my book?No doubt! So, why I cannot say what God likes and dislikes by referring to His word written through his servants who were inspired by the Holy Spirit?
Igorius86 1 week ago
@naneux you know what? I just want to bless you!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Thanks, I like blessings, they tickle my soul. PFfft.... tickle my soul. Wait, I now have YOUR soul. You probably believe in souls dont ya. Guess what, you dont have to worry about your soul, its mine already, look, its in my briefcase! There ya are!!! Trusty ol soul.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux Don't speak nonsense! My soul belongs to Jesus Christ and it will be with Him forever!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Wrong, your soul is mine. Its in my briefcase for safekeeping. Maybe ill use it this Halloween!
I would use some caution when speaking about your so called god. I done told ya already you are worshiping the false christ, god told me so. Whether you deny it or not, it does not deplete the truth.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux Don’t be silly. You cannot keep even your soul in your briefcase. My soul is protected by the blood of Christ.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 Does the nonsense ever stop!!! lol Your soul is not protected friend, not after having spoken to me. Beware. Souls are for the taking, especially if they worship false christs!
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux Yeah, if you worship false christs then of course your soul is not protected and real satan holds it. Since I worship the real and alive Jesus Christ my soul is protected by Him forever. Period!
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 If you wrote a book... wait.. god did not write a book, neither could jesus, illiterate motherfuckers. They need some schooling. Hopefully that was good for a laugh, i know I laughed. You cannot say what god wants because you dont know what he wants, or if it even wants, shit, if it even exists, its pure arrogance to think you know the mind of something that doesnt exist, if not ignorance.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux
Again you miss points from my comments. He inspired men to write. God cannot write?!Are being serious?Almighty God?Oh, dear..So, how He has given the 10 commandments to Moses written by Him? Also He wrote on a wall to one of the Syrian kings (I cannot remember the name of that king). Do not lower God, it’s a foolish idea.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 He didnt give ten commandments, its a story based on faith. Not fact. And if god can write, how is it he cannot concisely muster out a book that does not hinge on interpretation?
Because he did not muster such a book, is the reason you and I are speaking over such a subject.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux everytime the same verse can speak differently to your heard. God's word is too difficult for atheist to understand, whilst He reveals mysteries to His people.
Igorius86 1 week ago
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@naneux "You believe the earth was created in a few days? Yes, I do because God is almighty and if He says He created everything in 6 days, then it is true. I know it may sound for you odd, but this is just because you do not believe in it. When you believe in God, you believe in everything what He says, otherwise you do not believe.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@naneux "You believe plants were on earth before light?!" No, the light was created earlier. You may read in in Genesis first chapters, the universal creature.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 (1:3-5, 14-19) "Let there be light"
God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "if there was no sun to mark them?"
I can assume that God’s glory shined on the earth. In Revelation 21:23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. (New International Version (NIV)Revelation 22:5There will be no more night.They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 You can assume all you want, it will never make it true.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?" On the Earth we have polar nights and polar days (from 24hours to 6months), but it does not mean that the calendar days stops there. If it is a polar day, they still have so-called evenings and nights, and then the mornings and the days, and then again evenings and nights, yet always sun shine. The same for with the polar night, they have so-called days whilst it is dark.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 "yet always sun shine. The same for with the polar night, they have so-called days whilst it is dark."
FACEPALM! Without a sun there is no light. Period. No sun, no polar night, lol, or polar day... lmao. How can that get passed you, ... oh wait.. you believe in god. That is as illogical as a polar day.. without a sun. Pfft. Are you serious with this?
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux No sarcasm please
Igorius86 1 week ago
@naneux I told you already that I believe in God and I believe in everything He tells. I have no doubt in Him. For you only the sun can produce light. I have more than sun.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 In Genesis, the earth is created (1:1) before light (1:3), sun and stars (1:16); birds and whales (1:21) before reptiles and insects (1:24); and flowering plants (1:11) before any animals (1:20). The order of events known from science is in each case just the opposite.
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux "birds and whales (1:21) before reptiles and insects (1:24); and flowering plants (1:11) before any animals... "
Didn’t you know that before the Adam and Eve have sinned there earth operated in a different way?There was no death, there was no destruction. Thus birds and whales did not need reptiles and insects as they need now in order to satisfy their hunger. The same applies for everything else you listed.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 So earth operated in a "different way" before adam and eve... OMG! The show continues.
"There was no death."
Scientific fact: 99.9 percent of all species that have ever existed are now extinct.
So yes, there was death. Yes, there was destruction. If whales could not eat, they die. Go out and perform a field test, observe whales and catch one that has not eaten, its probably dead, the others are eating and mating, and always have been. FACEPALM!
naneux 1 week ago
@naneux
You are talking about now, but I am talking about time before Adam and Eve sinned, and before God cursed the earth for their sin. Please more attention when you read.
Igorius86 1 week ago
@Igorius86 I did pay attention buddy, god did not curse the earth, god was invented by man. No deity has ever crawled, slithered or walked upon this earth. Your saying that things worked differently before sin... ill entertain that notion, if things worked differently, why not say ice cream shitting tacos existed and their presence is forever lost because of mistranslations of the word.
naneux 1 week ago
Chris Forbes,Senior lecturer in Ancient History of Macquarie University and member of the Synod of the Diocese of Sydney,severely criticized the movie,asserting that it has no basis in serious scholarship or ancient sources,and that it relies on amateur sources that recycle frivolous ideas from one another,rather than serious academic sources,commenting"It is extraordinary how many claims it makes which are simply NOT true.Similar conclusions were reached by DrMark Foreman of Liberty University
Igorius86 2 weeks ago
I can't believe I believed this crap at one time, It was pulled from a book that was guessed at or made up, please check out my video that I didn't pull out of my ass and actually spent a day getting my facts straight.
skatergmail 3 weeks ago
@skatergmail One day!?!?! ... it took one day to get the facts straight on stories passed down and misconstrued for centuries.
That's a lot of work. One day.
naneux 3 weeks ago
its funny because if jesus was actually real he wasnt born on december 25th
GnoballibProductions 1 month ago
Much of what Christian religions teach is of pagan origin and has nothing to do with what the Bible actually teaches, all it takes is a little carefull study to work this out. Christmas, Easter, the teaching of hellfire etc, are all false & of pagan origin, yet we all partake and believe this crap without a thought!
A religion that aknowledges these facts, must be God's true earthly organisation. There is one God, so there must be one group of people teaching the truth. Someone please help me.
botswanky 1 month ago
@botswanky There is not one god. Theres many.
naneux 3 weeks ago
@RamHatx now according to astronomical data mahabharata war happened 5000yrs back and dwaraka , which was the city of krishna was found on the ocean bead of arabian sea near gujarat and it is estimated that it is more than 10k+ yrs old. there are many approximations on when the war happendsome even say 12kyrs back. but 2 me the most valid answer is 5k+ yrs. search u-tube 4 "When did the Mahabharata War Happen" and watch the 8-part series if u wanna know if krishna truly existed.
abhishek0kb 1 month ago
@RamHatx its like this>>think of bunch of examinees sitting in a hall & taking exam,one guy(X) among themstudied well and others didnt,now out of desperation others copied from X. since the evaluator is clever &debar these otherguys if found guilty,these guys modified X's answers added masala,twisted answers andfinally giving it newlook.zeitgeists were desperate 2 equate all stories just 2 prove their point&failed.now which 1 is X nobody knows clearly.
cont.
abhishek0kb 1 month ago
@RamHatx hi ignoramus,i said devaki was not virgin.you, no matter what wants to believe that devaki was a virgin. devaki in bhagavatha purana was potrayed as pure hearted woman , chaste woman (morally pure) and never shown that she was virgin. moreover i never disagreed with the story that vishnu himself decended & blablablabla (if u belive in such stuff) which was written in the same purana. and yes there r a lot of similarities between these stories.
abhishek0kb 1 month ago
Most of the named divinities, deities, Gods, persons listed at the one of the video are just that - stories and tales that no one has any hard evidence of their lives, let alone their birth dates.....and even researching the many tales of these, only Attis came close to being born without male input, but not even any suggestion that his mother was a virgin. So not sure what the aim of the video was? maybe some attempt at sensationalism?
ll77Serenity77ll 2 months ago
Horus - there is no evidence of any birth since he was a God 3. Horus is an ancient Egpytian deity, born to the goddess Isis.
4. There is no historcial evidence to show thart Jesus's birth was on Dec 25th - the closest two independent studies have come so far is between 7–2 BC .
ll77Serenity77ll 2 months ago
Here's a few facts though: 1. Based on scriptural details and astrological calculations the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[45] is 19 July 3228 BCE and departed on 3102 BCE.......was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva (Wikipedia) 2. Dionysus was the God of Grape Harvest, also had a cult Greek following. He was one of the 12 Olympian Gods, not 12 disciples.
ll77Serenity77ll 2 months ago
For eample - Attis - born of a virgin ...the actual story is that the Olympian Gods fearing Agdistis cut off his genitals, which fell to the ground and gre into an almond tree, from which a woman (Nana) ate an almond and became impregnated with a boy Attis, which she abandonned and was brough up by a he-goat. Attis had a Greek cult following. What I'm saying here is that, if this had been included into the video, it might have lost a lot of credibility of being real.
ll77Serenity77ll 2 months ago
What one needs to remember is that there are many tales (myths) portrayed over thousands of years and the passing/interpretations of those stories - are they real? Could they be interpreted as in the same vein as others???
ll77Serenity77ll 2 months ago
Isaiah 14v12 kjv the morning star. Revelation 22v 16 the morning star. Who can set beside God without falling. Maybe that is why, they all think the end is coming. I don't hate the christain's, but i fell for them. For they made a image before them. And it blocked them from the truth. For the old book's told us ,of this a long time ago. For you may have some truth here. For this was done, so many time's.
myofficechief 3 months ago
Can people stop claiming opposite things??
Either the information in this video is accurate or it's not. What is the objective answer? What is the real answer? Are these characteristics accurate for these godly figures or not?
If they are, then the Jesus story can be considered a myth just like all the others.
aboyborninjune 3 months ago
what rubbish. krishna was not born to virgin. he was not ressurrected after his death. krishna was born in a prison. 6 of his brothers were killed right after their birth by their uncle(devaki's brother kamsa).7th child was rescued and given to rohini.after krisna's birth he was taken from prison& given to yasodha and nanda to raise and in return yasodha's child was taken back to prison where the child was kiled by kamsa. this is how krisna was born, dont beliece this info show in this video
abhishek0kb 4 months ago 2
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Srimad Bhagavatam
Canto 11
Chapter 30
Verse 27-33 "Seeing that Rama had left, Krishna finding a pippala TREE, sat silently down on the lap of the earth...Having the form a deer's face, HIS FEET WERE THEN PIERCED by an arrow of a hunter named Jara who thought he saw a deer."
He dies, and in the next chapter ascends into Heaven.
naneux 3 weeks ago
Can i say this, at least, the video is not a credible source of information for multiple reasons, a few being this, Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th, this is easily provable and just google his birthday and you can find that the months august and september seem to be more likely based on star charts...secondly, sunday was not the day of worship for the jews. The day of worship was actually saturday, it was changed to sunday by the catholic church way, way back, but much after Jesus' time.
c0rwin24 4 months ago
@c0rwin24 and on top of that, fourthly, the bible never actually mentions how many kings came to see him...these 4 facts alone can show that the conclusions this video, and all of the conclusiosn made in the zeitgeist film are conclusions that only those blinded to the truth came accept. History shows many of these other so called facts about the other Gods to be completely false as well...if it were true, the story of Jesus wouldnt of been so quickly spread and accepted in the apostles time
c0rwin24 4 months ago
The link for the sources is dead
incyc70 5 months ago
YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REAL TRUTH?
youtube. com/watch?v=ptjUhuv90vs&feature=fvst
Grayfox3214 6 months ago
Horus was not raised from dead or born a virgin
bossman103 6 months ago
@bossman103 Hymn to Isis found in Nag Hammadi:
I am my mother’s arms,
I am the sterile one, yet my children are numerous,
I am the married woman and the unmarried one,
I am She who gives birth and She who has never given birth, .....
naneux 3 weeks ago
@naneux Doesnt mean virign in some stories she was conceived throughthe magic phalisis and so she could not give birth before that she was steile doesnt mena virign. Virign means unconsmated sex
bossman103 3 weeks ago
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@bossman103 Magic phalli! And yet... somehow, a magical phallus is not a miracle birth right? o_0
"I am the bride and the virgin."
III-IV century before Christ Found in Nag Hammadi, Egypt
The same hymn.
naneux 3 weeks ago
@bossman103 III-IV century before Christ Found in Nag Hammadi, Egypt
naneux 3 weeks ago
Also, Isis is referred to as "Great Virgin" at the temple of Seti I at Abydos, Egypt, which was built circa 1300 BC and in later Egyptian traditions, Isis is associated with the constellation of Virgo - whom we know as the "Virgin". I wish Christians would simply accept that it is not heresy to suggest that Christianity, in its attempt to establish itself as a dominant religion, had no choice but to assimilate some of the earlier, older traditions in order to ultimately usurp them! Evolution!
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago 2
And isn't Jesus alleged to have said something like "Nobody comes to the father except through me"? ... Likewise, nobody achieves Re (ascension into Heaven) without passing through the Kingdom of Osiris (also known as Horus) ... In fact Horus rises up out of Osiris ... like God the Father and God the Son ... doesn't this all sound a little familiar to Christians? Osiris was resurrected or "restored to life" after "3 days in the waters". Look in the Bible at Jonah 2:1 and Hosea 6:2
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
2 years old Egyptian can tell you the father and mother of hours .
we take it in school since we are born , since he is so famous in ancient Egyptian history .
swimmer4ever200687 8 months ago
Born on December 25 - Not true. He was born on the 5th day of the "Epagomenal Days" which takes place between August 24th and 28th on the modern calendar. Also, the Egyptians used a different calendar, thus didn't have a December
Born of a virgin - Not true. His father was Osris, who was killed by his brother Seth. Isis (Horus' mother) used a spell to bring him back to life for a short time so they could have sex, in which they conceived Horus.
streings 11 months ago
@streings That's interesting, I learned that Isis had actually joined the Osiris and thus created the first pregnancy ... No sex, so... immaculate.
MrTomAraujo 8 months ago
Star in the east / 3 kings / baptised at 30 / walked on water / "Lamb of God"/"The Light" - I have found no evidence supporting or contradicting this. The lack of evidence indicates to me that these have been completely made up.
12 disciples - Not true. He had 4 semi-divine disciples and 16 human followers.
Crucified / Dead for 3 days / Resurrected - Not true. He never died. He only later merges with Ra (the sun god of Egypt; Horus was actually the sky god)
streings 11 months ago
@streings In the Pyramid texts of Unas, the earliest, complete and authorative corpus of Heliopolitanism, the Osirian rebirth and Solar illumination of the divine king are described. It is clear ascension to Re is impossible without passing through the kingdom of Osiris. Re is the state of "illumination", the acension of the soul to what Christians call Heaven. It is Osiris who is resurrected after "3 days & nights in the water", but Horus ascends out of Osiris' corpse ...God the father & son!
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
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"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." John 3:16-17
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clintmmartin 1 year ago
I love this movie
ZEITGEIST!!!!
mylovemetal 1 year ago
Ever been called up at 3 am because a demon was scratching words on a young Wikken girl's back. And after you arrived saw the scratches appear for 30 minutes on her right in front of your eyes after while batteries in the cameras of others around you died? I have. And God was the reason that it left. I have to say, I agree with a lot that is here, but not the religious aspect. I used to be an athiest but God has set me free. And He is coming back. And yes, I have seen more than this too.
mcordima 1 year ago
Do the research your selves people stop using emotion to form your opinions, christianity is a plagerism of the ancients religions, theres plenty of info everywhere do the research yourself we dont want you to believe us we want you to prove us wrong. Come with facts not stupid phrases like "Oh thats made up" or oh it possibly couldnt be true, Christianity existed before christ, the question is how?
PanchoVillista 1 year ago
Thank you! Great video by the way!
miirabutsu 1 year ago
The "zeitgeist" has been debunked. Once again scientists/informants lie to me and you in in attempt to discredit Christianity. Why? Because they don't want to accept it.
ijustwatchedthat 1 year ago
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@ijustwatchedthat According to who? You?
PanchoVillista 1 year ago
LOL!
JKEVPSI 1 year ago
this is all totally made up, no ancient text says any of this lol.
shedendpussys 2 years ago
Thank you for expressing your opinion. For further information check out the sources which I've now added to the 'more info' section to have a more informed point of view ^^
zeitgeistau 2 years ago
a lot of people are hiding in their comfort zone such as the idiot shedendpussys who can't accept facts and sticking up their noses to their myths.
more power zeitgesitau :-)
LynesCeleste 2 years ago 8
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zeitgeistau 2 years ago
Hi. Could you please tell me where to access the sources to which you are referring. Thanks in advance.
miirabutsu 1 year ago
@miirabutsu
I'd be happy to, here you can acquire the movies for free?
Google 'the zeitgeist movie'. I'll put the link in this vid for you.
zeitgeistau 1 year ago
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miirabutsu 1 year ago
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miirabutsu 1 year ago
@zeitgeistau The souces link doesn't exist. Very interested in looking though.
finemoves 6 months ago
Watch out people,this is all fake,go check yourself.....shame on the people who created this....and what @shedendpussys isn't his opinion,is a fact,he's right,no ancient text says any of this,this is made up!
powalovesmusic 5 months ago