Diablo 3 Beta Patch 5 Review and Discussion

[bongobeaver]

The problem is why the game is not gonna be a success is many things in play here. Blizzard has been working on this for 11-12 years and they keep pushing it back. i understand they have a trade mark phrase "Soonish" but here is what Other game companies have done. you might remember Blizzard north also known now as Runic games. they made a game that only took them 4 years to make Torchlight which pretty much gave me what i thought D3 is suppose to give. but sadly my heart is with Runic now.

[rpiller1]

@bongobeaver You will buy this game just like everyone else :)

[TheDukanu]

Da foock are u talking about ??? about damage rates tuning the beta making a very beautyfull BETA ??? too bad i cant write BETA bigger ...

[nofreedomofspeech]

I like you

[hptrg404086]

y it not does look like wow

[chant4eschaton]

@hptrg404086 because its diablo?

[djhornymoney]

think they should get rid of cualdron of jordan..its only there so you dont have 2 go back in town and save some time, but you have that heart stone thingy? diablo 3 have a loss of crusial rpg elements such as: skill points, skill tree and the time spend to earn some of the geater spells (i like spending time on my charector and fight for my goals.) i think it have lost its charm and turned into a action/fighting game. i am dispointed worst part isthat you HAVE 2 be concted 2 the internet 2 play

[sto0ja]

is this just online,or it has singleplayer?

[chromakey84]

@sto0ja only online play

[BCt0xiN]

@sto0ja You like to play with yourself?

[Pshoeshus]

@BCt0xiN No because back in Diablo 2 they had single player mode, so it's a valid question

[viro1321]

i herd that you will have to pay for each skill lvl (norm. nightmare. hell) once you pass norm for example u will have to buy nightmare if you wish to play in that difficulty. If possible can someone confirm that or deny that?

[PsiloCybinDreamX]

@viro1321 i dont know where you heard that, the only thing you pay for is the game, everything else is free and free to play

[tonyillig]

@DireBoris I would appreciate that. Can you send a link?

[DireBoris]

@tonyillig I will start my let's play this weekend because I got the sickest Demon Hunter weapon ever just today. Bought it for 80,000 gold.

[lavalampex]

wow the nephalem altar thingy is a smart introduction

[MrOzturq]

Wtf!? Come on Blizzard! Dont like the "Nephalem Altar" :(

[criticlyminded]

no, the alters are good. It actually challenges you, makes you think. A strategy element will make this game much more attractive I think. People need to be limmited from kicking the games ass in a day.

[toix48]

@criticlyminded Yea but i dont really like it cause what if your gonna go fight a boss, but your skills are for groups? i think its okay but i would like it more if you can just change your skills when ever you want.

[kikme420]

@toix48 It would make the game to easy. Plus it adds more strategy to lvls, more emersion, and peopel can't just change skills for pvp I would assume, so you might have to pre perpare.

[BCt0xiN]

@toix48 If you're going to go fight a boss you respec to boss skills. You have no point cry more.

[MunchMyDong]

S-skill-s-e-a-Swap skills 1:21

[DiMoNico1981Swe]

Most fun about this, is this beta, is not real one. The real beta its about whole game not 5 areas one boss hahaha...

[munha666]

clicker noob game, designed to addict weak minded and fat no lifers

[collgamea1228]

@munha666 like you

[sxyboyteen]

This game is a miniature wow, they have destroyed a beloved franchise... period. If your going to respond back at me make sure you know your stuff... because I will embarrass your small feeble mind... I still love blizzard... smart bitches...

[Suirrad123]

Not happy with the skill swap change and addition of Nephalem Altars at all. Feels like a gimmicky attempt to slow down gameplay and force players into analyzing every battle and adjusting accordingly which, imo, feels too much like an RTS than good ol' hack n' slash diablo. Would really like to hear form Bashiok or anyone at blizzard as to why they feel this change was necessary. Anyways, great video as usual Force.

[xLimaro]

You did great job sir.

Everythink you did is completed. Now it's time to share the Diablo 3 experience with someone else in different way. I'm really to receive the bleesing and do everythink to protect the world. Pass me your Beta key dude! The time has come!!

[mkroliki]

Good job

[HugRunner]

It's kind of awkard that the more time goes by and as the updates keep coming, the less excited I get to actually get my hands on the beta... Feels like I seen most things and many changes seem to make it less fun to play. The new skill swap system seems terrible, e.g.. And overall the whole game doesn't seem to have the same speedy gameplay like Diablo 2 had. But I guess that has to do with the 3D, just like the SC1 vs SC2 dilemma. SC1 feels more responsive and faster.

[musicmaker111]

wat the fuck are they thinking with the skills, fuck up the game more please

[sicyo]

Graphics are awesome in 1080p, thanks for the post :)

[SomeEpicGameplay]

What's the reason you can't switch on the fly?

[TheGummybeard]

I think you got one thing wrong about the changes toto AOE damage. Every class got good crowd control (CC) skills that are supposed to be used instead of massive AOE destruction. Point is, do (CC), put out some AOE to lower a packs general health, more CC then still finnish off most of demons with active single target action game as diablo 3 is ment to be. So a combination of it all, CC, AOE, single, CC, AOE, single, CC, single, CC, single. I hope you read this :P

[Orthas1]

cant swap skills on the fly? the fuck is that about...

[zelbarnap]

thanks for these updates! I appreciate it Force! all good! still want some gameplay to show the different effects.

[Ashmay19]

Yeah that text looks amazing in 1080p, moar plz

[invanorm]

Anti-aliasing hey? I'm just going to leap to the conclusion that they'll be adding it to SC2 as well, given its using the same engine.

[Sandrine1337]

<3

[jayDizzle416]

WE LOVE YOU FORCE

[IFchakin]

Hey Force, Really great job keeping all of inform both in Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. You make my life much easier for checking for gaming news. I work a lot lately so it is harder for me to search the forums like I used. Instead of going to multiple sites now I just need to come to youtube and check out your vids. Thanks again!

[zeartul4piexxx]

i wonder if tryeal will return i mean i expect him to but im not sure so someone plz answer me.

[iwantapigtoday]

whats the 2 by his WD in the top left his level?

[iwantapigtoday]

Man...... I REEEEAAAAALLLLLYYY want to be in the beta...........

[93Drane]

Haha, you said Twonce :O

[TheCfclan4life]

If you can enchant your weapons, why wouldn't you just enchant your 2h Weapon with 1h stats? Thats the stupidest patch add I've ever seen!

[slachance88]

Thanks a lot Force !

[Corhero]

Am I the only one who thinks they should rather put like a 10 or 15 seconds cooldown on a skill when changing it??? That way you can change skills on the go and don't have to break the flow of the game by tending to a nephalem altar each time you want to swap skills.

[AbstractChaos666]

@Corhero You'd still be experiencing a delay...come on...at least have incentive to return to town. Everyone wants instantaneous gratification with everything in the game. 

[gosma69]

you don't sound too happy force

[spaceorbison]

@gosma69 he doesn't have to be happy

[MayhemKira]

that nephalem altar is a good thing, atleast now ppl will not abuse the system by changing the spells whenever they want...

Good job Force! my hero

[AbstractChaos666]

@MayhemKira Thank you! Exactly.

[Eddie92777]

they made this even more Casual :(.. now it seems its retard safe

[slayerdark0]

fuck quests I'm gonna kill 1 billion monstas

[bryand1110]

About the vendors selling items "at least one level lower" than loot that can be dropped via corpses of monsters, I stress the words "at least". It will likely be rare that the items sold by a vendor are as high as a mere one level below corpse loot. Subtleties are key with patch notes.

[orlondok]

@bryand1110 - Agreeing to this ... sounds like Force might be explaining this a bit wrong ... it does not say anything bout being anywhere near the level of corpse drops ... it simply states that the vendor stuff will be  AT LEAST one level below monster drops ... this could mean it is any number below monster drops.

[realhbk316]

We cant change skills when we want....WTH?? Nephalem altars ....now dis does not sound impressive..

[slayerdark0]

those sowrds, that barbarian RAWRWRARWRAWR I WANNA PLAYYYYYYYYYYYY

[SuperMemzzz]

Looking great! I am actually in favour of the changes done for skill swapping.

[Joronimo]

om this start to look like WOW , 120% to 130% 3 sec to 5 sec lets hope its not going to be same as WOW every patch day one class gets buft up to mad numbers and some classes gets neft to shit !

[Nfinitii]

@Joronimo It wont be like wow as much b/c there isn't dps meters, rated pvp etc. the game will be based on many viable builds vs wow's single cookie cutter builds for each class.

[tonyillig]

Can you do a new demon hunter Let's Play?

[Cthulhu36]

@tonyillig yeah, it would be great Force! :)

[DireBoris]

@tonyillig If you want, I can do it?

[h4xmode]

I wish they would give you multiplications of Antialiasing....

[antbuoy]

Can you swap skills when you level up? If I unlock a sweet new skill I want it right away. The altar seems like a poor solution to the problem.

You can use a new skill immediately in every game I can think of.

[coplin69]

is the Barb play in this vid with Anti-aliasing on?

it seemed to look better but idk if it was a placebo effect :P

[q8Pally]

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[FreshDumbl]

@q8Pally its later now, try it!

[q8Pally]

@FreshDumbl still :<

[TataSinke]

great video! ty Force ;)

[BipolarStoner420]

The only other thing the patch did that might make sense to post, besides what you mentioned, might be an updated skeleton king fight. The skeleton king prolly still isn't at all difficult in normal so idk if I'd be able to tell any difference but I'd watch it anyway.

[mptothedc]

Seems like they're just making the game easier overall.

[whamslam3]

u cant swap skills on the fly!!! how lame is that!!! booooooo!!!

[flyjum]

pretty big ass patch

[Snowypups]

15:54 was pretty funny.

[BarbershopHero]

Best coverage on youtube right here!

[androsh]

That was a great patch review. You kept it from being dry :D

[mshadow1994]

I really dont like the change where the items a monstsr drops will be around that monster level......

Guess mf while leveling is useless then

Since everything thats worth anything will be dropped in inferno.

[InfestedChris]

@mshadow1994 magic find increases the drop chance of more rares and unique items. If you want to MF while leveling you will just have better resources to use later down the road.

[TheCrimsonChin91]

why did you make this video? you already went thru all of these changes in your DiabloCast the other day

[fetassfui]

man when are they gonna release the next wave of keys

[medigoomnis]

I think they should stick all those bookcases, chests, and shrines they took out of other areas into that cave under the well ^_^

[Indy7272]

@medigoomnis They put gold into this cave. (well of wishes?)

[InfestedChris]

@medigoomnis they changed the cave under the well. It is littered with gold and monsters now. it is actually worth going down and looting.

[medigoomnis]

@InfestedChris Oh nice! Musta heard the complaints ^_^

[MrWildcat76]

Hey Force, would you mind doing more playthroughs with the female characters to show off the patch changes. Why the fem characters? We like their... style better. ;-)

[eatshiftndie]

Thanx Force , keep it up mate !

[Carnuss]

That game looks soo crap.

[DeathIIV]

@Carnuss carnuss? more like Carn ASS

[Carnuss]

@DeathIIV How old are you, like fucking 12?

[NetherDrakeye]

*sees force's username* tries to discover his password for 30minutes

[DjLumbee]

I don't have the beta, but I do have the launcher and I must say, the new music is 100X better than that over-the-top epic symphony they had in there before. Don't get me wrong, there should be places in the game for intense music, but I think it was a little too obtrusive being played during the login screen. The new music is subtly dramatic and I think really portrays the audio of Diablo perfectly.

[Thomhanb]

Great review. Im so glad i got a place i can get updated on D3. Just waiting to play it myself! Keep up the great work Force!

[Karnashuk]

@ForceSC2strategy You've seen this Force? Guys? watch?

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1:30 a guy in the fury orb? a bug or...

The main menu looks so great now!

[13loodlus7]

Good job man! you have the best reviews of this game! Thanks for keeping us updated

[asakyololz505]

1+1=2 am i right?

[iiFrankDii]

i wish theyd fix how the monk puts his weapons away when he attacks :l

[FluxProGaming]

When i saw this video, all i said was "YES! Yes force!"

[ajjmz]

DIAl | lBLO

[iBukkake]

@ajjmz no

[LittleRedRubberDuck]

Darn that comment failed xD was to much in the moment .. ^^ just give us all beta keys k :<?

[LittleRedRubberDuck]

Fucking eh! Either give us a freaking open beta... Doesn't really matter if its gonna be an overflood of people going into the game , u will have that in a month or two when u hopefully release the game, just let us try the game allready if ur not planning on releasing it allready cause I'm killing myself reading up on changes that I'm not even trying out myself : / <3!

[johnsonbigbob]

@LittleRedRubberDuck they pushed release to early 2012 so it wont happen on month or two

[Haydezzz]

WHY take away the range of level gear drops??? stupiddd

[Zerate12]

Part 3 lore, Where ? Have you adapted the blizzard "soon" ?

[Xxenassowl]

3:24 awoodawooda

[vabalokis]

if u show diablo 2 , show in 1080p too... there is Hd mod for d2 ...

[sapachino]

me wants beta key

[jangkor187]

Force do a playthrough with of all characters again and show us the changes please!!!! :)

[Mrcanking]

DIAI | IBLO



[duchwhiteindian]

saw the loading screen for first time... orgasm instantly...

[silencedfable]

Also question - Does this mean inferno vendors will sell lvl 62 items? (I think the mobs are level 63??)

[Smisk1o1]

@silencedfable its the character level, not the monster level

[Enkeria]

@silencedfable Monsters are lvl 61. Your max level is 60. No issue.

[silencedfable]

This is the second time you said health gloves heal you a little over twice as fast when it's actually over 3 times faster.

1.5+1.5+1.5 = 4.5 < 5.0

Not a big deal but it's been annoying me.

[rwomble1]

thanks for the video, force!

[Dea0X]

I liked the mobs dropping a range of level gear ):

[barbolaf]

Force, could you do another let's play for demon hunter to see how it works whit the hartred generatos and hartred spenders ploz =)???

[VerumAdNauseam]

I was hoping they would enhance most of what made Diablo 2 so fun- the socket system, rune words, and magic toys like the cube. I wanted the blacksmith to be able to add/remove sockets and upgrade items, and I wanted the merchants to sell rare and unique items, gems, jewels, runes, potions and such. But this beta is turning out to be something else. If the game is released without any features from D2, I'm not getting it until the price on ebay falls below $20, which probably won't take long.

[D3economist]

no complaints with any of the changes, so stoked

[bron315]

Force, could you do a let's play for SKYRIM!

[Ranthowis]

Is it me or did they change the "to"s and the "from"s?

I'm pretty sure that the to's used to be first, and the from's were second, but now the from's are in-front and the to's are last

[Diablosity]

5:33 Furry Energy

[droga187]

still no beta invite :(

[Lythgul]

What does down from 67 mean? (Templar heal update)

[TheNicker45]

@Lythgul It says. "To 57%, Down from 67%"

[14fdasso]

I do not understand why they take so long in releasing it. I would surely buy it the instant it comes out

[marlan8000]

@14fdasso it's called " quality standard" , blizzard classic mind set , we are going to release something almost perfect regardless production time wherever you like it or not. I prefer a long wait but a great game that a short one and a stupid bugged game

[Peralisc]

@marlan8000 starcraft 2 was very disapointing, not going to buy the expansions ... better torrent download that crap to check the story and then delete it as fast as possible

fking piece of shit took them so damn long, war4 would have been better

well just saying its not always quality that blizzard offers, but i still expect D3 to be good no matter when its released

[menamgamg]

3:27 hahaha force:)

[89Koffe]

can't change skills like before =( hope they will change back! like D2.

[MiftaCheeks]

I'm really loving all of this coverage.

Thank you for being awesome. :D

[knihThink]

diablo l|l

[killgirl2009]

when this game will open beta ?

[OckhamsxRazor]

@killgirl2009 It won't.

[sengklinge]

I WANT BETA KEY !!!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

[WinterSon91]

Please make a video about Diablo 3 attributes!

I would like to know how much crit chance you get from precision, how many stat points does each class get from leveling up, how each class benefits from attributes, but mainly how does Attack affect your damage. Is it additive percentage or multiplicative? Does 100 Attack make bash 145 to 290 or 145 to 245 (like in diablo 2)? I wanted the beta primarily to understand the mechanics and give feedback.

Thank you for all the nice videos, keep it up!

[DraconiusTheBlack]

*puts on 720p* pretends he's playing

[WinterisNeverGone]

@DraconiusTheBlack You can't turn on 1080p ? I can.

[Vinifera7]

@DraconiusTheBlack

Turns on 1080p, wow it looks good :D

[thecaptain293]

@DraconiusTheBlack *puts on 1080p* pretends he's having sex

[Scarbrow94]

Good ol' Game : asdfassdfasdfasdf with password asdf

[2810smk]

I would rather like the changes to be shown ingame.:-( I've read the patch notes myself...

Besides that, nice coverage, keep up the good work!

[kfc71]

where is my invite

[melvinnlol]

does any body wanna suck my cocks?

[yagobnu2]

i got to tell you, i am hating so much the fact that are cooldowns in this game in diablo 2 there was no cooldown and it was the best experience i had with games, i think this game will not even beat torchlight 2

[username951100]

@yagobnu2 cooldowns are needed in D3 or you could just click the IWIN skill over and over and you would only use that 1 or 2 skills over and over and thats just boring

[Stimpackswe]

@yagobnu2 There was cooldowns in Diablo 2, hidden. Hydra, meteor etc...

[7h380x]

@yagobnu2 There were slight cooldowns to frozen orb, blizzard and Meteor. Maybe more, but that's the ones I remember :b

[700007123]

@iiperento lol'd

[zodcyborg]

@iiperento lol you're right ^^ seems something/(one) distracted him ;)

[axelfury88]

@iiperento Definitely LOL

[Dezzan]

Great update.

Also the game looks way better with anti aliasing

[horamerda2]

Please make video for weapon speed on casting skills on wiz/doc and a DH full video to show how it's playing now

[tytrr321]

Yay a NEW VID WOOT!!!

[Methuss87]

Lol monk mantras remind me of stances for udyr in league of legends.

[Vulrath100]

Thanks for keeping us up to date Force. Very informative and helpful as always. Even for us unworthy folks who cant get into beta. I strongly look forward to this game.

[gakiyarou]

at first I was worried about casters with the whole weapons effecting spells, but now that they've said wands have faster speed and orbs etc give +dmg it sounds good to me lol!

[Flip111000]

thx force :)