The phrase 'in god we trust' has nothing to do with the one true god. How can a phrase like that be put on the dollar bill along side the image of the All seeing eye on the pyramid which is Masonic who believe in satan but wierdly swear on the bible. You have to remember that the name God is a title like Lord or Master and yes satanists who are out to decieve people do refer to Satan as God because he is their master.
I'm not homosexual myself, but I hate Christians who appose gay marriage. It's just pathetic. There is obviously no god, the idea of god is a preposterous, idiotic concept. Only a true moron would choose to let someone else run their life!
@prokentsful Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. What bothers me is when Christians selectively believe the Bible to justify their opinions. True, it does say in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination, but in that SAME book (Leviticus), it says eating shellfish is an abomination. If all sin is equal, then I guess all those Christians going to Red Lobster are doomed for a fiery eternity in hell.
Religious people need to realize that laws can't be derived from religious beliefs.
It's funny how the caller couldn't even come up with one reason to suggest that homosexuality is detrimental to humanity without consorting to the bible.
Not a Fundie here: You guys should take more notes and stop muting the caller in the middle of their argument; it takes the fairness out of the entire ordeal. You guys make good arguments for reason but if you were to be on Fox news and they did the same to you, I would hope you would be outraged. :D Take notes, let them speak, and then proceed to insert reason/real world rationality. :D
Im christian and i support gay marriage, same with most of my family, some of whih are catholic, its not all of us who dont support it, just the ones that cant see past the point of old tradition and rumors
you dont see guy and guy animals having sexual relations.. thats because thats not how they were made... - sex is for having babies... thats why you wont even have sex probably in heaven. there will be no need to repopulate and you will feel good about yourself all the time
@Lennon4ever1 actually they are just believing in what they want and you are to- they believe against it and you believe for it so your telling them not to fight for what they believe while thats what u r doing right now... ur the wrong one
@jaxon19kira I geuss you forgot about the part where I said the gay lifestyle is none of their business~ People decide to have sex for whatever reason they want and they have a right to do so, as long as they're consenting adults. And you're wrong, because we observe homosexulity in the animal world all the time. And just the simple fact that you're talking about people 'not having sex in heaven' -shows what an idiot you are! -You gotta be kidding me!!
@Lennon4ever1 dude im 13 calm down there okay go take an advil or something... haha dont act like i have no buizness comenting when your commenting on something that isnt even your belief- ur just looking for trouble... even a kid can see better that u
@Lennon4ever1 yes u do have the right to do that - but they have the right to speak out against it like u have the right to defend it.... its all in the constitution..what else is in the constitution is freedom of religion... if peoples religion say not to do it they have the right to do anything legally necessary to try to get people to believe against it-adam and eve were straight( the first humans... - i know they were real because the bible is like a history book- its lik sayin ww2 was fake
@jaxon19kira So you believe the bible because the bible said so! Great!! You obviously have allowed yourself to be duped by religious nonsense..congratulations! Well, you're still young and there's time to go acyually learn something that's for sure. You're free to have the last word..I'm done. -No sense talking to a wall
@Lennon4ever1 ha watevr- i guess ull find out soon enough-the events of the bible can be prooven - look it up... ha 13 and smarter than u- well i bet ur not young and dont have a bunch of time to change your mind.. better hurry.bye now
But lots of things that bring contentment are not true. Would you be willing to consider something if it disturbed your contentment, but might actually be true?
How do you know that there is no conscious existence after death? The main reason that people claim to not believe in an afterlife is that they think that the idea is a naive wish-fulfillment in the face of the fear of death.
A quick look at Jeremiah 9:21-24 gives the answer to this intellectual dilemma. How could God be loving and yet allow suffering? The Bible tells us that He is in control, and that He does send judgments to this earth. God is love, but He's also just and holy and if He gave us what we deserve, the tsunami of His holiness would sweep us all into Hell.
You are content as you are—fair enough. If contentment is what you are after, the Christian faith may not have much to say to you for a while.
A quick look at Jeremiah 9:21-24 gives the answer to this intellectual dilemma. How could God be loving and yet allow suffering? The Bible tells us that He is in control, and that He does send judgments to this earth. God is love, but He's also just and holy and if He gave us what we deserve, the tsunami of His holiness would sweep us all into Hell.
@Godlovesyou71 ummm no... jesus christ live a long time ago.. why would we accept a pile of dust as our savior? i want to see that pile of dust heal people missing limbs, eyes, illness.. never seen that happen.. soo when that pile of dust if it is a pile does that ill do it.
@Godlovesyou71 Jesus christ never was born, in fact the gospels can't even agree on where he was born, or during which year. I'll give you a hint the idea of the census rules out the reason for joseph to be fleeing herod....since herod would have been dead. Facts get in the way of religion.
•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an •1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
I have a suggestion for God: before he allows somebody to become one of his followers, he should have that person take an IQ test and score at least 100. God has too many dimwits on his side and he needs to clean house.
liberals have sadly tried and succeeded into bullshitting america that there is no such thing is morals. in my opinion, this country is lost. socially, economically, and politically. unless we have some kind of miracle turn around in 2012. it will not be a question of if, but when. we have a plethora a problems nowadays that are not going to be solved with our nation the way it is. theres no way you can reverse it with the left controlling the media.
The left controls the media? have you watched fox news recently? anyways it doesn't really mater, because people that get all of their information from the mainstream deserve to remain ignorant. I agree that the country is on a downward spiral, but not for the reasons you say. Come to think of it, perhaps the country should collapse, perhaps then people will open their eyes.
@HDaviator yes i have watched fox news.....BUT FOX NEWS IS ONE FUCKING PERCENT OF THE WHOLE MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and just about everyone gets there news from the mainstream. we are on a downward spiral. and i dont think were getting about. for that last 20 years almost every president had the last name bush or clinton. if you want real change your going to have to elect someone whos not afraid to speak their mind
Caller is a weak christian don't know what he is talking about. He can't back up his views with reality. These guys don't believe in God, religion etc... So two real world consequences insect and polygamy. If same sex marriage is legalized then siblings may marry as the can consent and love each other. Polygamy must be legalized etc... Many women can marry one man it is consent and they all love their man. Now young people marrying under the age of consent etc.. and so on. flood gates open.
@onebadgs400 1. As far as i know the leagalities of marriage are pretty much the same with family.
2.Polygamy could cause alot of trouble and absue of legal rights under it.Getting more tax cuts etc with the more people you marry. And wow, you just compared gay marriage to pedophilia.
fail.
most of the things you mentioned the marriage itself may not even be that bad in the first place
@sailornaruto39 I never stated pedophilia but I'm glad you brought it up. See gay marriage has the same legal issues as polygamy and you can't accept one group homosexuals and leave out the polygamists its discrimination. Now regarding pedophilia. In almost all states underage children can marry with written parental consent. So a polygamist mother can consent her underage teen to marry a grown man. Regardless of your moral view you can't discriminate.
@onebadgs400 the thing is with polagmy i would like to assume that plenty of legal rights would get messy and screwd up, but pretty much besides that so what? if 10 people wanna marry each other i don't care as long as they aren't hurting each other does it matter?
" In almost all states underage children can marry with written parental consent."
well i think that is stupid, what does a child need marriage for
@sailornaruto39 --" In almost all states underage children can marry with written parental consent."
well i think that is stupid, what does a child need marriage for but my life is no different hearing that --
Exactly it does not concern you what men do with a child/teen. You also have no right to say why a child should marry or not. Its not for you to decide. If the child/teen loves and are not hurt or abused you must allow that love. What goes on in someone elses bed is none of your concern.
@onebadgs400 well ok, i'll give you that.But typically i would like to think sex with an adult is not something kids should be exposed to.Just like with alot of things they should grow up and live a little and earn some things with age.
@sailornaruto39 What if the teen or child wants to. What can you do? It's their decision and if they love each other and the man does not hurt the child/teen what does it matter to you? Get your morality out of this discussion.
@onebadgs400 no i wouldn't i don't care doesn't = it is right.But i see i have been making slaws in judgement, thank you for pointing it out. If they passed a law on pedophilia where it is legal to have sex with kids as long as they want to i will not agree with it,since kids aren't even the right mind set to be making adult choices. but
If in the future society can make it work where a 30 year old marries a 10 year old, then more power to them.That would be pretty hot anyways XD
@sailornaruto39 OK well since.... your words "i will not agree with it,since kids aren't even the right mind set to be making adult choices." How can homosexuals argue they where born gay? You and I agree that until 18 consent children/teens can't make adult choices especially regarding their sexual orientation. Until children/teens understand the pros/cons of sex should they be taught alternatives until they understand the basics?
@onebadgs400 so are you saying teach kids not to have sex until they are properly educated, sure.
" You and I agree that until 18 consent children/teens can't make adult choices especially regarding their sexual orientation." no you can like what you like, but the adult choice comes in when you act upon them.
@kacertj Wow! You think that's fair huh? We have the' freedom' to be practicing members of a religion, but we are not free to decide we don't want to be participants in religion! News flash Pal ...That's NOT freedom!!
Ok so this gay guy keeps showing up 2 my door, and is trying to get with me (a guy) and well im not a fag, but he keeps coming in these gay ass deep vnecks and cardigans, its really funny, text 6364028300 and ask for a pic of "the awesome vneck shirt" and i promise he will send it, he loves that thing, and make sure to tell the fag to go back in the closet and burn that fag vneck! Plz text him maybe he will stop touchin me!
JEFF - "that sin" does not send you to Hell, it's your disbelief in Jesus as Saviour....make sure all your non-believing followers understand that. There is nothing we can do to make God us more or love us less.
...then you speak up, and these same people tell you that your brainwashed. Wrong. For a lot of people it is morally unacceptable, bestiality, pedophilia, homosexuality. Even among Heterosexuals, it looks vulgar to see teenagers making out in public, and I say teenagers (children), because that's generally what they are. Mature adults don't do these things. It's private. Fight for Civil Union, keep your sex life private, grow up and stop being so vulgar, we know you love each other.
So, you understand that pedophilia and bestiality is morally incorrect right? Now what if you went to the park and saw an adult kissing a minor, or acting in an improper way with an animal, you would probably be upset, right? Look, I know that this comparison may be harsh, and I apologize, Im just trying to make a point. Now, what if the media promoted this behavior, and crammed it in your head, then you have people telling you that YOU have the problem and that you need to get over it
The problem I have is that the gays want to call their union, "marriage", and that they get upset and don't understand why the church wont accept homosexual actions. They want acceptance, and respect. As human beings I do respect them, but I can't accept homosexual sex, and say that its good. Thats like saying that sex with animals is good, or sex with minors is ok.
@kacertj "Thats like saying that sex with animals is good, or sex with minors is ok"
Wow. No it isn't. Having sex with a consenting adult of the same sex isn't like having sex with a child. Two consenting adult men know what they're doing, a child cannot understand sex like an adult can. Homosexuality is NOT like pedophilia or bestiality. An animal can't consent to sex with a human. Two men can consent to sex with each other.
Homosexuality isn't like pedophilia or bestiality. It just isn't.
@JohnnyKubark what about incest. if two consulting adults who happen to be mother and son or brother and sister want to marry. should they be given the right? they are already trying to normalize incest by using the same arguments they used for normalizing homosexuality. search "legalize incest". Its disgusting, but people are crazy these days. so yes, by your logic, consulting adults who are family can marry. and to me that is just plain abnormal and horrible.
@gr8z0mbiejesus See, this is where I disagree. The ability to distinguish between good and evil, right and wrong is not negated because of age. This is very simple, to engage in sex with the same sex is wrong. Morals are formed from a properly formed consciousness, otherwise, the truth becomes distorted, and perverted. An atheist cannot understand this.
@kacertj you're correct... i cant understand how believing in a giant bully in the sky makes you moral when this bully's holy book is full of genocide, hatred, incest and endorsement of slavery. i am a better person than your god, a christian cannot understand this
@tokyodusty Think, "Boxers," a Chinese quasi-religious faction and their persecutions of Christians. Think, of the persecutions in Mexico during 1900s, just for starters. Think for a moment of all the martyrs that have been murdered by the secularist society. The same kind of society that our forefathers tried to escape from Europe. Now, you dumb asses want to go back in time to what our forefathers were trying to get away from. Idiot
Same-sex marriage passed in New York yesterday. I sincerely hope Evangelical Christians are sad about it. I am very happy about it and in about 10 years gay people in all 50 states will be able to marry. There is nothing you can do about it Christian slime!
It's starting to annoy the shit outta me how all these callers who have little constructive to say fill up two fucking hours saying "What I'm saying is... What I'm saying" and "All I'm saying, all I'm saying, dude" and "Let me just say: let me just say this. All I'm saying..."
WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING -- YOU"VE TOLD US 16 TIMES.
And they repeat it few times before actually saying ANYTHING - in variations. AND they do it before every bloody sentence. DX
You heterosexual people are fucking retarded..... GOD Knew he had to design a begin with some brain power!!! heterosexual lust was man down fall in the first place and was the down fall of a third of his Angels whom he kicked out of heaven... Known they want to put it all on gay men and women... Nowhere in the bible does GOD address homosexuality point blank you talk what John and Luke wrote but nobody is reading between the lines even these so called preacher's
@Tommy4503 Well first of all that is just as insulting as saying "All you gays are retarded", so lay off there. Second, God isn't even real so don;t worry about it.
@ISS5731 GOD isn't real? Says you., You are retarded!!! I would rather live my life believing in GOD and find out that there isn't one in the end then to live my life not believing in GOD and find out that there is one.
@idaman12345 Well that fine, that's fine I will and you be prepared to find out that there is one.... You got to be out of your mind to think there isn't one LOOK around you dummy
This caller more than likely commits sins on a daily basis -- some even from the 10 commandments. Why are we not banning both pork consumption and vegetable gardens? Why are married men not arrested for shaving their faces? Why do Christians go to church on Sunday, rather than Saturday, like they are supposed to? Despite all of these sins that Christians commit, they have the audacity to tell ME that I am not living based on integrity and honesty?! That's what pisses me off about Christians.
@j4unumber1 You forgot to mention working on the sabbath is an abomination and it says so in the Bible! I just wonder how many Christians Work on the Sabbath?
It is people like that caller that put Christianity in a BAD LIGHT. To be a Christian is to be Christ-like. It is NOT about going by what the Catholic church instituted as ''Christian doctrines'' How in God's name can you read the Gospel of Jesus, do the opposite and then call yourself a Christian? Jesus didn't discriminate against gays. He acknowledged that NOT all men were born to marry women, yet so-called Christians today discriminate against men who aren't born to marry women. It's a shame
@Kumtekmeon The story of Christ comes from the Bible and the Bible explicitly states that homosexuality is wrong. It says homosexuals deserve to be killed. That's supposed commandments by the Christian God. Jesus specifically stated that none of the laws were to be changed until the Earth is gone. That means all the laws, including killing homosexuals, still applies.
Why don't we kill homosexuals? Because our secular morality has made us able to rationalize and make up reasons to disobey God.
@ninjajesus81 God gives all of us brains to use, why don't you use yours for a change and THINK! There is NOWHERE in the bible God says two men or two women who are ATTRACTED to each other are condemned and to be killed! Two men having sex DOES NOT make them gay - The English translations, especially the ones from the 80s onward have proven how EVIL man is. The Bible is the word of God, BUT not all translations reflect God's true words. Why don't you show me where God says kill homosexuals?
@Kumtekmeon Leviticus 20:13 - If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
I do use my brain to think; that's why I'm an atheist.
@Kumtekmeon It's also confusing, considering that in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus reportedly said that the laws of the Old Testament will apply until "both heaven and Earth have passed away", and since Earth is still here...
@UnderlordZ One must be careful HOW they interpret scriptures, because bad interpretations make Jesus out as a sham. Jesus was not speaking in defense of the continuation of the Mosaic laws. His point was that HE is the fulfilment of The Law. God had told us in Jeremiah 31:33 that He would write His law in our hearts and minds and that's what Jesus has done. IF Jesus was in support of the Mosaic laws HE would not have broken them. So definitely those who think otherwise are mistaken.
@Swiffers Why do you pull your hair out? I know. Because what they say is logical & you don't have a logical refutation. Gay marriage doesn't force Christians to think it is ok or enter a gay marriage. Christians are still free to do believe what they want. However, banning gay marriage is enfringing on others.
@cubbiesarenumber1 That's understandable. I'll take this opportunity to say that, personally, even though I'm a Christian and love to tell people about God, I don't bother people with it by shoving it down their throats.
The hosts of this show are extremely uneducated about the founding fathers of our nation. Our nation wasn't founded on Christian principles? That's maybe the dumbest thing I have ever heard. "Religion is the basis and Foundation of Government." - James Madison. "God who gave us life gave us liberty..." -Thomas Jefferson. "Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped." -Benjamin Franklin.
If this country was built on Christianity, why do we have a national amendment that says that Government does not uphold religion, neither does it forbid it? Basically, this is saying that any religion can exist in the US. It doesn't matter if this country was founded on christian philosophy, because they still put laws in that would prevent the religious from taking away the rights of the minorities.
@SilkyJ10 You are a Christian country? So you are sacrificing animals to make rain disappear, enslaving other humans(well, you actually did that) and dont cut your hair(as a man)? All Western countries took the things off the bible, which are morally correct, like robbing and murder being crimes, but being gay not(even though the same book claims it to be a sin as well). Just look at the Arab countries. They`ve taken their book as their law-giving entity. Can you see them being morally right?
Give me a Christian principle that this nation was founded upon. And it must be exclusively Christian. Remember, the format our gov't is a descendent of Roman Law which was in place before Christianity even existed.
@SilkyJ10 And remember you can find writings and letters from our founding fathers supporting and criticizing Christianity. A logical explanation would be they must support Christianity when speaking to a majority Xtian population to ensure votes & popularity, but when speaking to other deists like themselves in a private letter is where their honesty comes out about what they truely felt about Christianity.
@SilkyJ10 No. This is what James Madison ACTUALLY said: "Because finally, 'the equal right of every citizen to the free exercise of his religion according to the dictates of conscience' is held by the same tenure with all his other rights." I would post the rest of his quote but its too long. just google ""Religion is the basis and Foundation of Government" and you will find that it is a misquotation. it would be like me saying "please don't kill me" and then quoting me saying "please...kill me"
Benjamin Franklin used to go to the whore house with George Washington, drink beer and smoke pot. Oh yeah Franklin is such a model Christian. But than again unlike most of these hypocrites Franklin never hid it, in fact he was probably happy everybody knew he was such a player
@MrJuly1990ish Queen Latifa is most liklely gay. The difference between Latifah and Oprah is that Oprah frequently comments on gay issus. For a closeted person to do this is rather unbecoming.
In the end it's each person's personal business to make their homosexuality public knowledge or to hide it. If you are gay and closeted, you shouldn't publicly speak on gay issues pretending you speak "generally". The ultimate in betrayal is opposing gay issues while secretly living as a homosexual.
gee, no - I would have never guessed that. But then again, you only support my argument with this point . Consider, given the proclivity of a rather sizable section of the population to opt for the marital alternative of polygamy why does the state [legally] outlaw that configuration if, in fact, one definition/form of marriage is as equal as another ? Could it be (as I've argued) because the state has determined from its protracted experience sit's not beneficial. UR argument is deficient
gee, no - I would have never guessed that. But then again, you only support my argument with this point . Consider, given the proclivity of a rather sizable section of the population to opt for the marital alternative of polygamy why does the state [legally] outlaw that configuration if, in fact, one definition/form of marriage is as equal as another ? Could it be (as I've argued) because they state has determined from its protracted experience sit's not beneficial. UR argument is deficient
It's really sad to verify how the Christian doctrine needs constantly to rely on bullshits, lies and urban legends to "survive", like the ones exemplified in this video (USA foundation's Christian background, God in dollar bill, etc). It shows how weak it really is.
The first chapters of Romans is a letter from St. Paul to the Romans. So what makes this guy believe that St. Paul's opinion should trump the Gospels?
I am an agnostic, former christian, which is why I am agnostic, I would be atheist because of how I was raised there is nothing actual in the way I am living now against gay marriage
@Freethinker12341 Jer 6:16a Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.
@filoIII you're the one who's lost not me, get a life dude. you're afraid of dying so you join an evil cult called christianity and now you're nothing but a slave....a slave to an imaginary celestial dictator
@kaykko Jesus had one "dad," The Father in heaven. Joseph wasn't His father. Lu 2:48-50 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
@slowtoyotaecho I never said I knew. I asked you how do you know they weren't? They both could have been homosexual. They both could have been heterosexual; or god could have been gay and jesus straight or god could have been straight and jesus gay. Those are the choices, but we will never know.
@kaykko Jesus is God in the flesh. That is a misinterpretation and misunderstanding that you have there. Joseph was not his biological father as he was born of the Virgin Mary. BTW why do atheists care about marriage? If we are just advanced primate species then who cares about marriage? Animals in nature don't need marriage to have sex. Marriage is a Christian law that comes from the Holy Bible.
@7TJBarba Marriage was around before Christianity and is a part of cultures that were completely isolated from Christianity.
The reason an atheist cares about marriage is that many laws are tied into marriage. Marriage isn't something separated from the government. Atheists have a right to everything dealing with the government just as the theists do.
@kaykko He also hung out with 12 sailors. The fact that he had a woman around, i.e. a beard, just supports Jesus' sexual orientation. Jesus+ the apostles= the original YMCA.
@kaykko Who told you Jesus had to dads? He was born fatherless through Marry by a miracle of God. God said let it be, and it was. He's God. He can do what he wants. He says and it is. God has no mother, no father, and no children. Everyone who believes in God can call God, Father. Not a literal Father, but the creator. Like when we say, Ozzy, the father of Heavy Metal. Were you on crack when you said Jesus had 2 dads?
@kaykko Lets say your a carpenter. You can build whatever you want. You decided to build a wooden doll. You built it yourself using wood and saws and glue. Did you need to have sex to create it? Or did you create it because you have the skills to do it? This is your logic. If God can do anything he wants, he can sure as hell create anything. He created Adam didn't he? He had no mother or father. God doesn't have a mother or father or son or daughter. He IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS.
@kaykko Wrong! Jesus had one Father. NOT two. Lu 2:33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. Lu 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.-The Bible never calls Joseph Jesus' father. The unbelievers thought he was. You'll give an account for your support of sodomy as per Romans 1:28-32. v32 applies to you.
Homo males die an avg of 30 yrs earlier than their heterosexual counterparts due to disease. There's something wrong w/ the deathstyle. These disease are transferred to the rest of the community. Now you have sodomites and liberal congressmen wanting homos to be able to donate blood. Nasty & unhealthy. Franklin, a minimal Christian at best, insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern." Even the wicked know Jesus is the way.
@filoIII while i agree homosexuals do have diseases (just like heterosexuals) you do realize that any donated blood does go through a rigorous series of tests to make sure it doesnt have diseases right?
@idaman12345 Would you prefer "faggot," "queer," or "GAY?" I'll just stick w/ Bible words and if you don't like it---talk to Jesus. He's my Boss. Repent or perish.
@filoIII You are just ignorant, You don't even have your facts straight. You have no credibility and will probably perish with in the next few day. I hope you enjoy Hell liar!
@filoIII Ignoramus,they have changed that rule. Gay men can give blood now. You are probably an ignorant Christian who enjoys spreading lies about the gay community. You just lied! I hope you go to Hell for your sin!
@RImusclebear Not w/ the Red Cross they can't. A question on their health history asks if they've had sex w/ another male since 1977. If they say yes, they are deferred indefinately.
@filoIII I gave blood last Monday and I told them I was gayand went through the full blood screening process.. They still took my blood. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
@filoIII I sure did! Another case of where you are telling untruths to make homosexuals look bad. The Red Cross changed their policy several months ago ignoramus!
@RImusclebear "Since 1977, have you ever had sex with another man, even once?"--This question is still in use today by the Red Cross as set forth by the FDA.
The phrase 'in god we trust' has nothing to do with the one true god. How can a phrase like that be put on the dollar bill along side the image of the All seeing eye on the pyramid which is Masonic who believe in satan but wierdly swear on the bible. You have to remember that the name God is a title like Lord or Master and yes satanists who are out to decieve people do refer to Satan as God because he is their master.
TRborn1 3 weeks ago
"It is a fact America was founded on Christian principles" Maybe in some paralel universe.
Symos 3 weeks ago
I'm not homosexual myself, but I hate Christians who appose gay marriage. It's just pathetic. There is obviously no god, the idea of god is a preposterous, idiotic concept. Only a true moron would choose to let someone else run their life!
prokentsful 1 month ago
@prokentsful Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. What bothers me is when Christians selectively believe the Bible to justify their opinions. True, it does say in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination, but in that SAME book (Leviticus), it says eating shellfish is an abomination. If all sin is equal, then I guess all those Christians going to Red Lobster are doomed for a fiery eternity in hell.
Religious people need to realize that laws can't be derived from religious beliefs.
cocoalrose 1 month ago 4
@cocoalrose I say, follow every law in the bible, or follow none.
No picking and choosing, which is what is being done nowadays.
prokentsful 1 month ago
02:20 "sin" someone please show me in the constitution "sin"
The constitution does not deal with sin and the caller ought to have been reminded of this.
Evolvedprimate 1 month ago in playlist The Atheist Experience
It's funny how the caller couldn't even come up with one reason to suggest that homosexuality is detrimental to humanity without consorting to the bible.
Jclar50 1 month ago
Not a Fundie here: You guys should take more notes and stop muting the caller in the middle of their argument; it takes the fairness out of the entire ordeal. You guys make good arguments for reason but if you were to be on Fox news and they did the same to you, I would hope you would be outraged. :D Take notes, let them speak, and then proceed to insert reason/real world rationality. :D
xiannow23 1 month ago
the caller makes no good points at all, what a retard
Minkazami 1 month ago
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NuLaifMusic 1 month ago
Im christian and i support gay marriage, same with most of my family, some of whih are catholic, its not all of us who dont support it, just the ones that cant see past the point of old tradition and rumors
angiemd11 2 months ago
you dont see guy and guy animals having sexual relations.. thats because thats not how they were made... - sex is for having babies... thats why you wont even have sex probably in heaven. there will be no need to repopulate and you will feel good about yourself all the time
jaxon19kira 2 months ago
What people against homosexuality should understand is, besides being against their bullshit religion, it's none of their buisiness.
Lennon4ever1 2 months ago
@Lennon4ever1 actually they are just believing in what they want and you are to- they believe against it and you believe for it so your telling them not to fight for what they believe while thats what u r doing right now... ur the wrong one
jaxon19kira 2 months ago
@jaxon19kira I geuss you forgot about the part where I said the gay lifestyle is none of their business~ People decide to have sex for whatever reason they want and they have a right to do so, as long as they're consenting adults. And you're wrong, because we observe homosexulity in the animal world all the time. And just the simple fact that you're talking about people 'not having sex in heaven' -shows what an idiot you are! -You gotta be kidding me!!
Lennon4ever1 2 months ago
@Lennon4ever1 dude im 13 calm down there okay go take an advil or something... haha dont act like i have no buizness comenting when your commenting on something that isnt even your belief- ur just looking for trouble... even a kid can see better that u
jaxon19kira 2 months ago
@jaxon19kira It's got nothing to do with belief.- It's about equal rights
Lennon4ever1 2 months ago
@Lennon4ever1 yes u do have the right to do that - but they have the right to speak out against it like u have the right to defend it.... its all in the constitution..what else is in the constitution is freedom of religion... if peoples religion say not to do it they have the right to do anything legally necessary to try to get people to believe against it-adam and eve were straight( the first humans... - i know they were real because the bible is like a history book- its lik sayin ww2 was fake
jaxon19kira 2 months ago
@jaxon19kira So you believe the bible because the bible said so! Great!! You obviously have allowed yourself to be duped by religious nonsense..congratulations! Well, you're still young and there's time to go acyually learn something that's for sure. You're free to have the last word..I'm done. -No sense talking to a wall
Lennon4ever1 2 months ago
@Lennon4ever1 ha watevr- i guess ull find out soon enough-the events of the bible can be prooven - look it up... ha 13 and smarter than u- well i bet ur not young and dont have a bunch of time to change your mind.. better hurry.bye now
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@Lennon4ever1 Dude I think you are debating a troll. He even admit he is only 13.
shadowknigth95 1 month ago
But lots of things that bring contentment are not true. Would you be willing to consider something if it disturbed your contentment, but might actually be true?
How do you know that there is no conscious existence after death? The main reason that people claim to not believe in an afterlife is that they think that the idea is a naive wish-fulfillment in the face of the fear of death.
Godlovesyou71 2 months ago
A quick look at Jeremiah 9:21-24 gives the answer to this intellectual dilemma. How could God be loving and yet allow suffering? The Bible tells us that He is in control, and that He does send judgments to this earth. God is love, but He's also just and holy and if He gave us what we deserve, the tsunami of His holiness would sweep us all into Hell.
You are content as you are—fair enough. If contentment is what you are after, the Christian faith may not have much to say to you for a while.
Godlovesyou71 2 months ago
A quick look at Jeremiah 9:21-24 gives the answer to this intellectual dilemma. How could God be loving and yet allow suffering? The Bible tells us that He is in control, and that He does send judgments to this earth. God is love, but He's also just and holy and if He gave us what we deserve, the tsunami of His holiness would sweep us all into Hell.
Godlovesyou71 2 months ago
Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal hell.
PLEASE FOR YOUR LIFE ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR AND REPENT FROM YOUR SINS
Godlovesyou71 4 months ago
@Godlovesyou71 ummm no... jesus christ live a long time ago.. why would we accept a pile of dust as our savior? i want to see that pile of dust heal people missing limbs, eyes, illness.. never seen that happen.. soo when that pile of dust if it is a pile does that ill do it.
codppl 4 months ago
@Godlovesyou71 Jesus christ never was born, in fact the gospels can't even agree on where he was born, or during which year. I'll give you a hint the idea of the census rules out the reason for joseph to be fleeing herod....since herod would have been dead. Facts get in the way of religion.
bokprop420 2 months ago
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•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an •1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Godlovesyou71 4 months ago
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•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
Godlovesyou71 4 months ago
No caller, you obviously do not understand.
OneStonedBastard 4 months ago
I have a suggestion for God: before he allows somebody to become one of his followers, he should have that person take an IQ test and score at least 100. God has too many dimwits on his side and he needs to clean house.
jimtrueblue99 4 months ago
liberals have sadly tried and succeeded into bullshitting america that there is no such thing is morals. in my opinion, this country is lost. socially, economically, and politically. unless we have some kind of miracle turn around in 2012. it will not be a question of if, but when. we have a plethora a problems nowadays that are not going to be solved with our nation the way it is. theres no way you can reverse it with the left controlling the media.
its hard to say it, but, good luck america
XxxxExclusivexxxX 5 months ago
@XxxxExclusivexxxX
The left controls the media? have you watched fox news recently? anyways it doesn't really mater, because people that get all of their information from the mainstream deserve to remain ignorant. I agree that the country is on a downward spiral, but not for the reasons you say. Come to think of it, perhaps the country should collapse, perhaps then people will open their eyes.
HDaviator 5 months ago
@HDaviator yes i have watched fox news.....BUT FOX NEWS IS ONE FUCKING PERCENT OF THE WHOLE MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and just about everyone gets there news from the mainstream. we are on a downward spiral. and i dont think were getting about. for that last 20 years almost every president had the last name bush or clinton. if you want real change your going to have to elect someone whos not afraid to speak their mind
XxxxExclusivexxxX 5 months ago
@XxxxExclusivexxxX well then i guess were not voting republican or conservative
idaman12345 5 months ago
@idaman12345 two words. ron paul
XxxxExclusivexxxX 5 months ago
lol christians like him make other respectable educated christians look soo bad.
lol.
plain and simple keep your fucking religion to yourself,beleive what you want to believe and let the rest do so as well.
RaverScAtch 6 months ago
"you spend a lot of time christian bashing" , ".....yep"
LPNeptune 6 months ago
I don't think the caller knows what "secular" means.
KokotTheMonkey 6 months ago 7
@KokotTheMonkey I don't think he knows what 'deist' means either.
ZooseyBear 5 months ago
@KokotTheMonkey the caller is just another Christian, God loving hippie fuck with a narrow mind
Minkazami 1 month ago
@bradyhater1 thats true...and i 100% agree...
gr8z0mbiejesus 6 months ago
Caller is a weak christian don't know what he is talking about. He can't back up his views with reality. These guys don't believe in God, religion etc... So two real world consequences insect and polygamy. If same sex marriage is legalized then siblings may marry as the can consent and love each other. Polygamy must be legalized etc... Many women can marry one man it is consent and they all love their man. Now young people marrying under the age of consent etc.. and so on. flood gates open.
onebadgs400 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 1. As far as i know the leagalities of marriage are pretty much the same with family.
2.Polygamy could cause alot of trouble and absue of legal rights under it.Getting more tax cuts etc with the more people you marry. And wow, you just compared gay marriage to pedophilia.
fail.
most of the things you mentioned the marriage itself may not even be that bad in the first place
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
@sailornaruto39 I never stated pedophilia but I'm glad you brought it up. See gay marriage has the same legal issues as polygamy and you can't accept one group homosexuals and leave out the polygamists its discrimination. Now regarding pedophilia. In almost all states underage children can marry with written parental consent. So a polygamist mother can consent her underage teen to marry a grown man. Regardless of your moral view you can't discriminate.
onebadgs400 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 the thing is with polagmy i would like to assume that plenty of legal rights would get messy and screwd up, but pretty much besides that so what? if 10 people wanna marry each other i don't care as long as they aren't hurting each other does it matter?
" In almost all states underage children can marry with written parental consent."
well i think that is stupid, what does a child need marriage for
but my life is no different hearing that
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
@sailornaruto39 --" In almost all states underage children can marry with written parental consent."
well i think that is stupid, what does a child need marriage for but my life is no different hearing that --
Exactly it does not concern you what men do with a child/teen. You also have no right to say why a child should marry or not. Its not for you to decide. If the child/teen loves and are not hurt or abused you must allow that love. What goes on in someone elses bed is none of your concern.
onebadgs400 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 well ok, i'll give you that.But typically i would like to think sex with an adult is not something kids should be exposed to.Just like with alot of things they should grow up and live a little and earn some things with age.
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 "So a polygamist mother can consent her underage teen to marry a grown man. "
but does the girl really want it?Then the way to fix that is make it so that you can't marry kids to anyone.
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
@sailornaruto39 What if the teen or child wants to. What can you do? It's their decision and if they love each other and the man does not hurt the child/teen what does it matter to you? Get your morality out of this discussion.
onebadgs400 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 personally if a law was passed i technically couldn't care less.
so your point?
"Get your morality out of this discussion" what is that suppose to mean?
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
@sailornaruto39 So a man having feelings for a child and acting on it is ok if it was law in your eyes and you could care less?
onebadgs400 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 no i wouldn't i don't care doesn't = it is right.But i see i have been making slaws in judgement, thank you for pointing it out. If they passed a law on pedophilia where it is legal to have sex with kids as long as they want to i will not agree with it,since kids aren't even the right mind set to be making adult choices. but
If in the future society can make it work where a 30 year old marries a 10 year old, then more power to them.That would be pretty hot anyways XD
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
@sailornaruto39 OK well since.... your words "i will not agree with it,since kids aren't even the right mind set to be making adult choices." How can homosexuals argue they where born gay? You and I agree that until 18 consent children/teens can't make adult choices especially regarding their sexual orientation. Until children/teens understand the pros/cons of sex should they be taught alternatives until they understand the basics?
onebadgs400 6 months ago
@onebadgs400 so are you saying teach kids not to have sex until they are properly educated, sure.
" You and I agree that until 18 consent children/teens can't make adult choices especially regarding their sexual orientation." no you can like what you like, but the adult choice comes in when you act upon them.
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
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@onebadgs400 "Until children/teens understand the pros/cons of sex should they be taught alternatives until they understand the basics?"
if you mean alternatives like dry humping and masturbation, then yes.
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
Its good that you understand that its his book, but you must not understand it.
kacertj 6 months ago
@bradyhater1 Freedom,"OF," religion, not From.
kacertj 6 months ago
@kacertj Wow! You think that's fair huh? We have the' freedom' to be practicing members of a religion, but we are not free to decide we don't want to be participants in religion! News flash Pal ...That's NOT freedom!!
Lennon4ever1 2 months ago
Ok so this gay guy keeps showing up 2 my door, and is trying to get with me (a guy) and well im not a fag, but he keeps coming in these gay ass deep vnecks and cardigans, its really funny, text 6364028300 and ask for a pic of "the awesome vneck shirt" and i promise he will send it, he loves that thing, and make sure to tell the fag to go back in the closet and burn that fag vneck! Plz text him maybe he will stop touchin me!
crystalfolta 6 months ago
JEFF - "that sin" does not send you to Hell, it's your disbelief in Jesus as Saviour....make sure all your non-believing followers understand that. There is nothing we can do to make God us more or love us less.
alasjajo 6 months ago
@alasjajo You're an idiot.
Darius135gease 6 months ago
...then you speak up, and these same people tell you that your brainwashed. Wrong. For a lot of people it is morally unacceptable, bestiality, pedophilia, homosexuality. Even among Heterosexuals, it looks vulgar to see teenagers making out in public, and I say teenagers (children), because that's generally what they are. Mature adults don't do these things. It's private. Fight for Civil Union, keep your sex life private, grow up and stop being so vulgar, we know you love each other.
kacertj 6 months ago
So, you understand that pedophilia and bestiality is morally incorrect right? Now what if you went to the park and saw an adult kissing a minor, or acting in an improper way with an animal, you would probably be upset, right? Look, I know that this comparison may be harsh, and I apologize, Im just trying to make a point. Now, what if the media promoted this behavior, and crammed it in your head, then you have people telling you that YOU have the problem and that you need to get over it
kacertj 6 months ago
@kacertj LOL or every time you say whats wrong with human animal love you bigot. Get educated. LOL. Great analogy.
onebadgs400 6 months ago
The problem I have is that the gays want to call their union, "marriage", and that they get upset and don't understand why the church wont accept homosexual actions. They want acceptance, and respect. As human beings I do respect them, but I can't accept homosexual sex, and say that its good. Thats like saying that sex with animals is good, or sex with minors is ok.
kacertj 6 months ago
@kacertj "Thats like saying that sex with animals is good, or sex with minors is ok"
Wow. No it isn't. Having sex with a consenting adult of the same sex isn't like having sex with a child. Two consenting adult men know what they're doing, a child cannot understand sex like an adult can. Homosexuality is NOT like pedophilia or bestiality. An animal can't consent to sex with a human. Two men can consent to sex with each other.
Homosexuality isn't like pedophilia or bestiality. It just isn't.
JohnnyKubark 6 months ago 10
@JohnnyKubark Why isn't sex with animals OK? Why isn't sex with children OK? Please explain "your" belief so that we can all understand.
yoursola 2 months ago
@JohnnyKubark what about incest. if two consulting adults who happen to be mother and son or brother and sister want to marry. should they be given the right? they are already trying to normalize incest by using the same arguments they used for normalizing homosexuality. search "legalize incest". Its disgusting, but people are crazy these days. so yes, by your logic, consulting adults who are family can marry. and to me that is just plain abnormal and horrible.
TheAsooma101 1 month ago
@kacertj you obviously have a twisted view of morality, because these are human beings who love each other...
rune2h13579 6 months ago
@kacertj you realize the moral difference between two consenting adults and preying on children or animals unable to give consent???
gr8z0mbiejesus 6 months ago
@gr8z0mbiejesus See, this is where I disagree. The ability to distinguish between good and evil, right and wrong is not negated because of age. This is very simple, to engage in sex with the same sex is wrong. Morals are formed from a properly formed consciousness, otherwise, the truth becomes distorted, and perverted. An atheist cannot understand this.
kacertj 6 months ago
@kacertj you're correct... i cant understand how believing in a giant bully in the sky makes you moral when this bully's holy book is full of genocide, hatred, incest and endorsement of slavery. i am a better person than your god, a christian cannot understand this
gr8z0mbiejesus 6 months ago
@kacertj "Morals are formed from a properly formed consciousness"
umm yes they do. The mere fact that you rely on a holy book and they don't says they do
sailornaruto39 6 months ago
Christians are the ultimate evil, that's the real truth.
tokyodusty 7 months ago
@tokyodusty Think, "Boxers," a Chinese quasi-religious faction and their persecutions of Christians. Think, of the persecutions in Mexico during 1900s, just for starters. Think for a moment of all the martyrs that have been murdered by the secularist society. The same kind of society that our forefathers tried to escape from Europe. Now, you dumb asses want to go back in time to what our forefathers were trying to get away from. Idiot
kacertj 6 months ago
Same-sex marriage passed in New York yesterday. I sincerely hope Evangelical Christians are sad about it. I am very happy about it and in about 10 years gay people in all 50 states will be able to marry. There is nothing you can do about it Christian slime!
RImusclebear 7 months ago
@RImusclebear Civil union. It isnt a marriage. Marriage is impossible for gays.
kacertj 6 months ago
It's starting to annoy the shit outta me how all these callers who have little constructive to say fill up two fucking hours saying "What I'm saying is... What I'm saying" and "All I'm saying, all I'm saying, dude" and "Let me just say: let me just say this. All I'm saying..."
WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING -- YOU"VE TOLD US 16 TIMES.
And they repeat it few times before actually saying ANYTHING - in variations. AND they do it before every bloody sentence. DX
Not just this guy, but y'know...
ChajaYudelevitz 7 months ago
You heterosexual people are fucking retarded..... GOD Knew he had to design a begin with some brain power!!! heterosexual lust was man down fall in the first place and was the down fall of a third of his Angels whom he kicked out of heaven... Known they want to put it all on gay men and women... Nowhere in the bible does GOD address homosexuality point blank you talk what John and Luke wrote but nobody is reading between the lines even these so called preacher's
Tommy4503 7 months ago
@Tommy4503 Well first of all that is just as insulting as saying "All you gays are retarded", so lay off there. Second, God isn't even real so don;t worry about it.
ISS5731 7 months ago
@ISS5731 GOD isn't real? Says you., You are retarded!!! I would rather live my life believing in GOD and find out that there isn't one in the end then to live my life not believing in GOD and find out that there is one.
Tommy4503 7 months ago
@Tommy4503 well be prepared to be disappointed to find out there is no god
idaman12345 7 months ago
@idaman12345 Well that fine, that's fine I will and you be prepared to find out that there is one.... You got to be out of your mind to think there isn't one LOOK around you dummy
Tommy4503 7 months ago
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Matthew 5:17
'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of Moses or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.'
Where in your fairytale book does jesus speak of destroying the law of moses?
runningsrunnings 8 months ago
This caller more than likely commits sins on a daily basis -- some even from the 10 commandments. Why are we not banning both pork consumption and vegetable gardens? Why are married men not arrested for shaving their faces? Why do Christians go to church on Sunday, rather than Saturday, like they are supposed to? Despite all of these sins that Christians commit, they have the audacity to tell ME that I am not living based on integrity and honesty?! That's what pisses me off about Christians.
j4unumber1 8 months ago
@j4unumber1 You forgot to mention working on the sabbath is an abomination and it says so in the Bible! I just wonder how many Christians Work on the Sabbath?
RImusclebear 6 months ago
It is people like that caller that put Christianity in a BAD LIGHT. To be a Christian is to be Christ-like. It is NOT about going by what the Catholic church instituted as ''Christian doctrines'' How in God's name can you read the Gospel of Jesus, do the opposite and then call yourself a Christian? Jesus didn't discriminate against gays. He acknowledged that NOT all men were born to marry women, yet so-called Christians today discriminate against men who aren't born to marry women. It's a shame
Kumtekmeon 9 months ago
@Kumtekmeon The story of Christ comes from the Bible and the Bible explicitly states that homosexuality is wrong. It says homosexuals deserve to be killed. That's supposed commandments by the Christian God. Jesus specifically stated that none of the laws were to be changed until the Earth is gone. That means all the laws, including killing homosexuals, still applies.
Why don't we kill homosexuals? Because our secular morality has made us able to rationalize and make up reasons to disobey God.
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
@ninjajesus81 God gives all of us brains to use, why don't you use yours for a change and THINK! There is NOWHERE in the bible God says two men or two women who are ATTRACTED to each other are condemned and to be killed! Two men having sex DOES NOT make them gay - The English translations, especially the ones from the 80s onward have proven how EVIL man is. The Bible is the word of God, BUT not all translations reflect God's true words. Why don't you show me where God says kill homosexuals?
Kumtekmeon 9 months ago
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@Kumtekmeon Leviticus 20:13 - If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
I do use my brain to think; that's why I'm an atheist.
ninjajesus81 9 months ago
@Kumtekmeon It's also confusing, considering that in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus reportedly said that the laws of the Old Testament will apply until "both heaven and Earth have passed away", and since Earth is still here...
UnderlordZ 8 months ago
@UnderlordZ One must be careful HOW they interpret scriptures, because bad interpretations make Jesus out as a sham. Jesus was not speaking in defense of the continuation of the Mosaic laws. His point was that HE is the fulfilment of The Law. God had told us in Jeremiah 31:33 that He would write His law in our hearts and minds and that's what Jesus has done. IF Jesus was in support of the Mosaic laws HE would not have broken them. So definitely those who think otherwise are mistaken.
Kumtekmeon 8 months ago
I pull my hair out listening to athiests talk. >_<
Swiffers 11 months ago
@Swiffers Why do you pull your hair out? I know. Because what they say is logical & you don't have a logical refutation. Gay marriage doesn't force Christians to think it is ok or enter a gay marriage. Christians are still free to do believe what they want. However, banning gay marriage is enfringing on others.
Fishqueen1972 10 months ago
@Swiffers funny i do the exact same when religious people preach their bs
cubbiesarenumber1 10 months ago
@cubbiesarenumber1 That's understandable. I'll take this opportunity to say that, personally, even though I'm a Christian and love to tell people about God, I don't bother people with it by shoving it down their throats.
Swiffers 8 months ago
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@Swiffers why? hate all the logic and common sense?
idaman12345 9 months ago
The hosts of this show are extremely uneducated about the founding fathers of our nation. Our nation wasn't founded on Christian principles? That's maybe the dumbest thing I have ever heard. "Religion is the basis and Foundation of Government." - James Madison. "God who gave us life gave us liberty..." -Thomas Jefferson. "Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped." -Benjamin Franklin.
SilkyJ10 11 months ago
@SilkyJ10
If this country was built on Christianity, why do we have a national amendment that says that Government does not uphold religion, neither does it forbid it? Basically, this is saying that any religion can exist in the US. It doesn't matter if this country was founded on christian philosophy, because they still put laws in that would prevent the religious from taking away the rights of the minorities.
IMAGIMATIONanimation 11 months ago
@SilkyJ10 You are a Christian country? So you are sacrificing animals to make rain disappear, enslaving other humans(well, you actually did that) and dont cut your hair(as a man)? All Western countries took the things off the bible, which are morally correct, like robbing and murder being crimes, but being gay not(even though the same book claims it to be a sin as well). Just look at the Arab countries. They`ve taken their book as their law-giving entity. Can you see them being morally right?
FrontlinerCdV 10 months ago
Give me a Christian principle that this nation was founded upon. And it must be exclusively Christian. Remember, the format our gov't is a descendent of Roman Law which was in place before Christianity even existed.
Fishqueen1972 10 months ago
@SilkyJ10 And remember you can find writings and letters from our founding fathers supporting and criticizing Christianity. A logical explanation would be they must support Christianity when speaking to a majority Xtian population to ensure votes & popularity, but when speaking to other deists like themselves in a private letter is where their honesty comes out about what they truely felt about Christianity.
Fishqueen1972 10 months ago
@SilkyJ10 if this country was founded on christian principles then wed all be forced to be christians
cubbiesarenumber1 10 months ago
@SilkyJ10 No. This is what James Madison ACTUALLY said: "Because finally, 'the equal right of every citizen to the free exercise of his religion according to the dictates of conscience' is held by the same tenure with all his other rights." I would post the rest of his quote but its too long. just google ""Religion is the basis and Foundation of Government" and you will find that it is a misquotation. it would be like me saying "please don't kill me" and then quoting me saying "please...kill me"
Raisingbob 10 months ago
kinda sounds like krazie but doesn't act like him
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julesjuliaify 11 months ago
Benjamin Franklin used to go to the whore house with George Washington, drink beer and smoke pot. Oh yeah Franklin is such a model Christian. But than again unlike most of these hypocrites Franklin never hid it, in fact he was probably happy everybody knew he was such a player
mymindisfree09 11 months ago
Benjamin Franklin was a Christian....LOOOOOOOOOOOL. :)
gaylolful 1 year ago
9:22 is one of the biggest burns I've ever seen. Awesome video, you guys have mad intelligence
NoiretteBlanc 1 year ago
@MrJuly1990ish Queen Latifa is most liklely gay. The difference between Latifah and Oprah is that Oprah frequently comments on gay issus. For a closeted person to do this is rather unbecoming.
In the end it's each person's personal business to make their homosexuality public knowledge or to hide it. If you are gay and closeted, you shouldn't publicly speak on gay issues pretending you speak "generally". The ultimate in betrayal is opposing gay issues while secretly living as a homosexual.
schlummieleinchen 1 year ago
Did he just say -
"you want a tangeable like....if if gay people get married, POOF"
Poof? lulz.
blackbeltste 1 year ago
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gee, no - I would have never guessed that. But then again, you only support my argument with this point . Consider, given the proclivity of a rather sizable section of the population to opt for the marital alternative of polygamy why does the state [legally] outlaw that configuration if, in fact, one definition/form of marriage is as equal as another ? Could it be (as I've argued) because the state has determined from its protracted experience sit's not beneficial. UR argument is deficient
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gee, no - I would have never guessed that. But then again, you only support my argument with this point . Consider, given the proclivity of a rather sizable section of the population to opt for the marital alternative of polygamy why does the state [legally] outlaw that configuration if, in fact, one definition/form of marriage is as equal as another ? Could it be (as I've argued) because they state has determined from its protracted experience sit's not beneficial. UR argument is deficient
shieldsff 1 year ago
It's really sad to verify how the Christian doctrine needs constantly to rely on bullshits, lies and urban legends to "survive", like the ones exemplified in this video (USA foundation's Christian background, God in dollar bill, etc). It shows how weak it really is.
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Garbaligion 1 year ago
The first chapters of Romans is a letter from St. Paul to the Romans. So what makes this guy believe that St. Paul's opinion should trump the Gospels?
j4unumber1 1 year ago
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Faggots dont deserve any rights...
TruthAlwaysHerts 1 year ago
@TruthAlwaysHerts liars like you deserve no rights
cubbiesarenumber1 10 months ago
I am an agnostic, former christian, which is why I am agnostic, I would be atheist because of how I was raised there is nothing actual in the way I am living now against gay marriage
markymarkbb 1 year ago
Google "Help Brian Brown of NOM"and help end gay marriage in america!
Bestmanme08 1 year ago
@Bestmanme08 why would anyone want to end equal rights in america?
idaman12345 1 year ago
is matt gay??
Freethinker12341 1 year ago
@Freethinker12341 Highly likely he's a self-hating sodomite. Christ can cure him of that if he is.
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII wow, you are seriously uneducated. not to mention morally and intellectually inferior.
Freethinker12341 1 year ago
@Freethinker12341 Graduated from college w/ a 4.0 GPA. Does that alleviate any fears and/or concerns you may have about my education and intellect?
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII depends. what was your major? i majored in honors physics and minored in mathematics with a 3.80
Freethinker12341 1 year ago
@Freethinker12341 Underwater basket weaving
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII lol do me a favor man...join the 21st century
Freethinker12341 1 year ago
@Freethinker12341 Jer 6:16a Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII you're the one who's lost not me, get a life dude. you're afraid of dying so you join an evil cult called christianity and now you're nothing but a slave....a slave to an imaginary celestial dictator
Freethinker12341 1 year ago
@filoIII Yeah but you graduated from BYU the worst college in the country!
RImusclebear 7 months ago
its not a religion, its a relationship with God
adamcarp83 1 year ago
I don't understand why christians are against gay marriage. Jesus had two dads, he turned out alright.
kaykko 1 year ago 48
@kaykko Jesus had one "dad," The Father in heaven. Joseph wasn't His father. Lu 2:48-50 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
filoIII 1 year ago
@kaykko how the hell did Jesus have 2 dads?
slowtoyotaecho 1 year ago
@slowtoyotaecho God was his real father and Joeseph was his stepdad.
vcomp1960 11 months ago
@vcomp1960 ya i know that but the person made it seem in their comment that Jesus had gay parents.
slowtoyotaecho 11 months ago
@slowtoyotaecho How do you know they weren't?
vcomp1960 11 months ago
@vcomp1960 how do you know they were??????
slowtoyotaecho 11 months ago
@slowtoyotaecho I never said I knew. I asked you how do you know they weren't? They both could have been homosexual. They both could have been heterosexual; or god could have been gay and jesus straight or god could have been straight and jesus gay. Those are the choices, but we will never know.
vcomp1960 11 months ago
@vcomp1960 actually we do know. Jesus Christ never sinned and homosexuality is a sin. do you know how to put two and two together?
slowtoyotaecho 11 months ago
@slowtoyotaecho Then god was the homosexual
vcomp1960 11 months ago
@vcomp1960 how do you know he was?
slowtoyotaecho 11 months ago
@slowtoyotaecho I saw him and John the Baptist kissing outside a gay bar.
vcomp1960 11 months ago
@vcomp1960 stop acting stupid
slowtoyotaecho 11 months ago
@slowtoyotaecho How do you know I didn't see god and john the baptist kissing outside a gay bar?
vcomp1960 11 months ago
@kaykko Jesus is God in the flesh. That is a misinterpretation and misunderstanding that you have there. Joseph was not his biological father as he was born of the Virgin Mary. BTW why do atheists care about marriage? If we are just advanced primate species then who cares about marriage? Animals in nature don't need marriage to have sex. Marriage is a Christian law that comes from the Holy Bible.
7TJBarba 1 year ago
@7TJBarba Marriage was around before Christianity and is a part of cultures that were completely isolated from Christianity.
The reason an atheist cares about marriage is that many laws are tied into marriage. Marriage isn't something separated from the government. Atheists have a right to everything dealing with the government just as the theists do.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
@kaykko He also hung out with 12 sailors. The fact that he had a woman around, i.e. a beard, just supports Jesus' sexual orientation. Jesus+ the apostles= the original YMCA.
ahmedeox 9 months ago
@kaykko Who told you Jesus had to dads? He was born fatherless through Marry by a miracle of God. God said let it be, and it was. He's God. He can do what he wants. He says and it is. God has no mother, no father, and no children. Everyone who believes in God can call God, Father. Not a literal Father, but the creator. Like when we say, Ozzy, the father of Heavy Metal. Were you on crack when you said Jesus had 2 dads?
KingMessiah00 8 months ago
@KingMessiah00 No i'm not on crack. But you must be if you really believe "he was born fatherless through mary by a miracle of god" lololololol
kaykko 8 months ago
@kaykko Lets say your a carpenter. You can build whatever you want. You decided to build a wooden doll. You built it yourself using wood and saws and glue. Did you need to have sex to create it? Or did you create it because you have the skills to do it? This is your logic. If God can do anything he wants, he can sure as hell create anything. He created Adam didn't he? He had no mother or father. God doesn't have a mother or father or son or daughter. He IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS.
KingMessiah00 8 months ago
@kaykko Wrong! Jesus had one Father. NOT two. Lu 2:33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. Lu 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.-The Bible never calls Joseph Jesus' father. The unbelievers thought he was. You'll give an account for your support of sodomy as per Romans 1:28-32. v32 applies to you.
filoIII 7 months ago
Homo males die an avg of 30 yrs earlier than their heterosexual counterparts due to disease. There's something wrong w/ the deathstyle. These disease are transferred to the rest of the community. Now you have sodomites and liberal congressmen wanting homos to be able to donate blood. Nasty & unhealthy. Franklin, a minimal Christian at best, insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern." Even the wicked know Jesus is the way.
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII while i agree homosexuals do have diseases (just like heterosexuals) you do realize that any donated blood does go through a rigorous series of tests to make sure it doesnt have diseases right?
jesus is not the way
any sane person knows that
idaman12345 1 year ago 7
@idaman12345 You do realize the American Red Cross is against sodomites donating. Not everything gets caught?
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII i really wish you would quit calling homosexuals sodomites
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Would you prefer "faggot," "queer," or "GAY?" I'll just stick w/ Bible words and if you don't like it---talk to Jesus. He's my Boss. Repent or perish.
filoIII 1 year ago
@filoIII so your boss is some guy who lived thousands of years ago? nice
if you stepped away from the bible and your brainwashing center (church) youd realize how stupid it is
idaman12345 1 year ago
@filoIII You are just ignorant, You don't even have your facts straight. You have no credibility and will probably perish with in the next few day. I hope you enjoy Hell liar!
RImusclebear 7 months ago
@filoIII Ignoramus,they have changed that rule. Gay men can give blood now. You are probably an ignorant Christian who enjoys spreading lies about the gay community. You just lied! I hope you go to Hell for your sin!
RImusclebear 7 months ago
@RImusclebear Not w/ the Red Cross they can't. A question on their health history asks if they've had sex w/ another male since 1977. If they say yes, they are deferred indefinately.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII I gave blood last Monday and I told them I was gayand went through the full blood screening process.. They still took my blood. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
RImusclebear 7 months ago
@RImusclebear Not w/ the RC you didn't.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII I sure did! Another case of where you are telling untruths to make homosexuals look bad. The Red Cross changed their policy several months ago ignoramus!
RImusclebear 7 months ago
@RImusclebear "Since 1977, have you ever had sex with another man, even once?"--This question is still in use today by the Red Cross as set forth by the FDA.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII Yes and they asked that question. they still took my blood. Your point?
RImusclebear 7 months ago
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