If have sometimes wondered whether the experiment you mentioned would lead to the same outcome if the people that were prayed for and knew it had been atheists...
Just like the placebo effect that also work if you know you are getting a placebo...
who is the author of "The God Dellusion"? is it Dawkins? and would you recomend buying it? i'm looking for an itelligently written book that's pro atheism.
I was wondering, is there something you recommend for me to see that refutes some of the many aclaimed miracles that believers make like the ones about out-of body experiences and near death experiences?
@MingBaiLiaoJie you'd have to start by presenting a claim first...but...
In general, I'd recommend starting with Penn & Teller's Bullshit episodes on NDEs just for the entertainment side of it and go to Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things" for more on why we are susceptible to such suggestions.
Can you give me more, I don't want to be caught off guard by them presenting some miracle i've never heared of. Can you give me a list of the most famous miracles that believers tend to make or something that talks about those claims
I want to be able to give a natural explanation and to be able to convince them that they're wrong
I've also been encountering an argument from scripture, they say that the first four gospels and Paul wrote about Jesus relatively early
in comparsion to other religions and mythologies which had texts about their founders only centuries after their founders died, and thus that's proof that Jesus lived and that he performed miracles, they also add Josephus and Tacitus mention of Jesus
So what's the best way to counter that argument and is there a religious founder or hero that can be compared to Jesus in terms of historicity, like perhaps Romulus?
@MingBaiLiaoJie alright...now you are getting way to involved for a 500 character reply. Josephus and Tacitus only mention of the BELIEF in Jesus they DO NOT refer to him as an actual person. If we are going to go with texts vs time of founder's death...the Mormons win. Paul's letters were first and very early compared to Jesus' supposed death. But Paul also admittedly NEVER MET Jesus in body. The earliest gospel is Mark at around 70CE...40 years after Jesus would have died.
Tacitus says "Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus" there isn't any indication that this was merely a belief by Christians
Do the Mormons mention miracles by Joseph Smith? And isn't the book of Mormon written by just one guy as opposed to the gospels?
Yes, the gospels are not eyewitness accounts, but they were still written early in comparsion to other
@MingBaiLiaoJie Not in the least. ALL religions will have some difference that they can hang their hat on. The time span of the books written compared to earlier religions has more to do with advances in WRITING, not religion.
Please don't ignore me, I honestly don't know how to deal with the argument from scriptures
Some Christians also claim that the earliest biography of Alexander the Great was written 4 centuries after his death and the earliest biography of Julius Caesar was written a century later while the earliest gospel, Mark, was written about 30 years after Jesus’ death and that the earliest account of Jesus (1 Corinthians 15) was written within 5 years of Jesus’ death.
@MingBaiLiaoJie I'm not "ignoring" you. Contrary to the opinions of some people, I don't live on the Internet. I have a real life with a real job and a real family and from time to time I may not be able to get back to you very quickly. Also understand that you are but ONE of about 40 people PER DAY that will comment. I responded to your PM on the issue and that will be the end of our discussion on the matter unless you come up with something more convincing.
@MingBaiLiaoJie -"religions and mythologies and they are not written by the same person, " Yes they are. They are also both written by the fans of heroes. Still years, years or centuries later. We have two plays called Electra, one by Sophocles and one by Euripides. We can compare and contrast the plays like we do the gospels. We can argue if the person really existed or not. But both wrote about the hero or figure in a way to address ideas of the culture of that time. 4 gospels, 4 views.
@MingBaiLiaoJie Tacitus is RETELLING the "story"...not claiming it as fact. Read the context. Also, there are many claims to what he said that wasn't in what he said. Just like with the infamous Josephus quote of Jesus being a "miracle worker" when the original appears to have said "was believed to be a miracle worker."
And yes, Joseph Smith read the magical seer stones in the hat, remember.
I've read it but nowhere does it say that this is merely a belief, what context? How do you know that wasn't what he said? Lucian of Samosata also mentions Jesus
What should the atheist position be on Jesus, should we regard him as a myth and compare him with Hercules or Asclepius or should we say that he existed and was crucified but didn't really do all these miracles?
I actually know nothing about Mormonism and I don't know why people care about it
Anyway it's unfair to compare Mormonism to Christianity because it was written by only one person, the founder, while Christianity was written by several authors, we have documents that speak of wars and natural disasters centuries after the fact, so why do we accept those but disregard the Bible? Is it merely because it speaks of miracles? But I hear alot of people saying that archaeology has proven much of the New Testament and Dr. Clark H. Pinnock says the following
"There exists no document from the ancient world witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies and offering so superb an array of historical data on which an intelligent decision may be made. An honest [person] cannot dismiss a source of this kind. Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational [i.e., anti-supernatural] bias."
@MingBaiLiaoJie - pt1 " What should the atheist position be on Jesus, should we regard him as a myth and compare him with Hercules or Asclepius or should we say that he existed and was crucified but didn't really do all these miracles?" Not speaking for all atheists here but I think one opinion would be that he may have existed and possibly was some sort of intresting person and the events were elaborated to make him into something her maybe was not. all the miracles, sermons....cont..
@wayman29 pt-2 cet.. were put in the gospels to show they believed him to be the new Elijah, Moses ect. Should we view him as a mythological figure also you bet. The gospels wanted us to when they added elaborated claims with pagan themes to build the theology. That is how mythology is made. Myths are simply facts that never happened. Amazing.
@MingBaiLiaoJie- When it comes to hero worship such ideas come on fast. It happened a lot in the Roman Imperial cult. Titus was seen as a deity's son almost as soon as Vespasian left the Jewish War to be empire. By then he himself was viewed as a God.
@MingBaiLiaoJie I don't know of any particular "famous examples", but general research into the counter claims is all you need. Each out of body experience is practically the same (Shermer explains why in the book I recommended). Never is anything specific seen. Never is there anything that can be falsified. And it all boils down to their brain hallucinated as a result of the chemicals released in times of extreme trauma.
god is true to his people life is like because of adam and eve picking the apple from the tree into temptaion so dude no offence but life is like that so we can have a happy life even though you have an illness cause as many say they want to go to heaven and all those places were your happy with who you believe in
It's sad that there's more people thatdisagree with all these video rather than people who are smart and know what to look forward to, more the reason to become an atheist. :D
Nah! The Magic Eight Ball is merely vintage, which means it's made of higher quality materials to higher standards of quality, not to mention a finer finish in better condition.
Hey! I have a good idea, let's all worship the Magic Eight Ball! And while we are at it, let's write a poorly written and confusing book to try and convince others to believe in the Magic Eight Ball in order to eventually scam money off them.
Once you realize that the Universe is totally random, and there is no "grand plan", it all starts to make sense. It also makes the Universe far more interesting than if there were a divine plan. Chaos is fantastic. God is BORING!
that study is interesting. prayer dose help sick people get better. there have been multitudes of studies that proved that praying decreases stress. the reduction of stress helps the people get better. now this isn't saying its magical or mystical but it dose calm and destress you like meditation. perhaps the prayers where stressing out the prayees by asking "god pleas don't give this nice person a fatal brain hemorrhage during the night".
My prayer worked better. I prayed that nothing would happen for a day after I went to sleep, and then I rammed my head into the wall. I woke up after 3 days. God exceeded my expectations! Praise the Lawd!!
Sorta like when I hoped I had more time to read to an examination so the lord struck me with a painful tonsil infection so I had to take the test a second time instead! He's so wise.
I haven't researched the 'What the bleep do we know' througouly enough to conclude that the whole thing is crap. However, I will admit that it contains pseudoscience.
At least it is more accurate than the Bible, but than again I really don't know.
Honestly, I post the comment here to find out more information on the subject. Claiming it's just crap does nothing.
Hey King maybe you can dedicate a whole episode to reviewing the movie.
What about a movie like "What the Bleep Do We Know" which shows (or maybe theorizes) how through something a bit more eccentric than positive thinking can actually result in affecting reality through quantum mechanics. If that movie is viable, than there is something to praying. Right?
Thanks for reply, my moms been talking to me about how revelations is coming true, how gag and magag will attack Isreal and such soon *iran and Russia* and be curious about just how much if anything the Christian claims that revelations and other unfullfilled prophecies are coming true. Everyone talks about the ones int he past, love to hear about modorn ones.
Heh interesting, if you havn't already, I be cirous to hear the non christian thoughts on revelations and the "apparent" fullfilling of prohecies, this is one of the small hitches I'm finding is that many claim that what ever other faults the bible has, things like the computer chip meeting the requirements of mark of the beast, or Iran Russia poised to destroy isreal fitting the promise of it in the bible curious to see how well if at all these line up. And no I'm not christian just curioous.
Well, for a prayer experiment to be properly double-blind, the subjects need to be unaware whether they are in the control group, and so do whoever is interviewing/examining them to see how they're doing. But the people who are praying for them probably _should_ know who they're praying for, shouldn't they?
Also, this video's sound is really low volume, and there are at least a couple other videos of yours like this. I wish you'd redo & reupload, especially if you're gonna put it in a playlist.
When my mother conceived me, through finally that & labor when she could've died, she said she had people pray for myself & her: probably wouldn't want to show her this. Might break her heart..
Though, I was also born on July 7th (7/7)- creepy, eh? hmm haha
creepy? Not really...you had a one in 31 chance of it. (1/1, 2/2, 3/3, 4/4...it works with any month)...of course I know what you meant, it just reminds me of the movie "23"...given enough angles to approach it you can find something creepy about any set of numbers.
gambling sucks dude, its probabilistically designed to make you lose money. think about it would they actually be running a game that makes negative money, or breaks even? it would be pointless, they systematically design these games to rake in cash, every 500$ u spend u make a 100$
With all due respect, there is more to prayer than you think. You should do some research on thought forms and how prayer forms mental pictures in your mind. This may not be a function of religion.
As you said, it's NOT a function of religion. By comparision, you (as I understand it from the one comment, sorry if I'm off) are talking about praying to get a better job or make the football team or whatever...I'm talking about praying to heal a sick friend or win the lottery or anything else that is outside your own ability. Again, wishing on a falling "star" would do the same thing as a prayer. Prayer boils down to superstition, luck, or some other coincidence.
I understand where you are coming from, I to am looking for scientific answers of how prayer works......or if it works at all. Believe it or not, there are theories that do support prayer. I was skeptical at first but I have seen some things out there that have me reconsidering my doubt.
everything I've seen has shown it to have no effect. If then one study carries a more positive number, it must then be offset by other studies that show negative effect (those exist too) to average it back out to "chance".
I happened to get in a fight with the catholic Jesus freak In this case a lil 13 yr old boy who was felt I was poor and needy enough he tried to tell me that god is there but he made man to just worship him and women from men and it was JUST so PROVEN in the XX XY and he wasnt to happy when I informed him that since IF there is a god he is either not onmipotent an caring or he is teechnically the root if not CREATOR of all evil
I bet he wasn't too happy there...of course the Bible does mention at least twice that I can think of that God IS the creator of evil...so you may be right there.
He wasl l jsut like "no.. Satan is.. he did it with his free will.. he created evil, god didn;t" and I responded with well, goid created satan, and if he is so omnipotent he would know that satan woulddo such awqful thigns so in away he created evil
God needed a bit of spice. It's shit watching a DVD for the 60th time, knowing EXACTLY what's gonna happen, no matter what the movie is!
I don't believe in God but I do believe in luck. And luck has to be EARNED! You need to DO SOMETHING before luck happens, also you need to be fully aware or you miss your chance. I'm rambling
The Christian notion of prayer as being something that begs a Higher Being for something is far removed from the Jewish notions in which Christians claim origin. For us, the word "tefilah" (translated loosely as "prayer") is a reflexive verb, which shows that the action is to transform something inside us, and not to beg anyone for anything. It is much closer to meditation than the Christian begging G-d.
I've heard something similar to what you said from another Jewish person that I've been corresponding with. Be on the look out for a video I'll be doing on this notion as well as a few others on how Christianity ISN'T EVEN CLOSE to being part of the Jewish faith...another will come behind it about Jewish beliefs and how they've changed.
The christian god accepted human sacrifices too.
druidic6 5 months ago
If have sometimes wondered whether the experiment you mentioned would lead to the same outcome if the people that were prayed for and knew it had been atheists...
Just like the placebo effect that also work if you know you are getting a placebo...
thargor2k 7 months ago
who is the author of "The God Dellusion"? is it Dawkins? and would you recomend buying it? i'm looking for an itelligently written book that's pro atheism.
Shun101010 1 year ago
@Shun101010 I do recommend it and yes it is by Dawkins.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@Shun101010 after you read that book you should read the dawkins delusion by michael behe
Fanatical4Jesus 11 months ago
@Fanatical4Jesus or maybe I'll spend my time telling people lies. ...actually...it looks like you already beat me to it.
Shun101010 11 months ago
I was wondering, is there something you recommend for me to see that refutes some of the many aclaimed miracles that believers make like the ones about out-of body experiences and near death experiences?
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie you'd have to start by presenting a claim first...but...
In general, I'd recommend starting with Penn & Teller's Bullshit episodes on NDEs just for the entertainment side of it and go to Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things" for more on why we are susceptible to such suggestions.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Can you give me more, I don't want to be caught off guard by them presenting some miracle i've never heared of. Can you give me a list of the most famous miracles that believers tend to make or something that talks about those claims
I want to be able to give a natural explanation and to be able to convince them that they're wrong
I've also been encountering an argument from scripture, they say that the first four gospels and Paul wrote about Jesus relatively early
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie
in comparsion to other religions and mythologies which had texts about their founders only centuries after their founders died, and thus that's proof that Jesus lived and that he performed miracles, they also add Josephus and Tacitus mention of Jesus
So what's the best way to counter that argument and is there a religious founder or hero that can be compared to Jesus in terms of historicity, like perhaps Romulus?
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie alright...now you are getting way to involved for a 500 character reply. Josephus and Tacitus only mention of the BELIEF in Jesus they DO NOT refer to him as an actual person. If we are going to go with texts vs time of founder's death...the Mormons win. Paul's letters were first and very early compared to Jesus' supposed death. But Paul also admittedly NEVER MET Jesus in body. The earliest gospel is Mark at around 70CE...40 years after Jesus would have died.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Tacitus says "Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus" there isn't any indication that this was merely a belief by Christians
Do the Mormons mention miracles by Joseph Smith? And isn't the book of Mormon written by just one guy as opposed to the gospels?
Yes, the gospels are not eyewitness accounts, but they were still written early in comparsion to other
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie
religions and mythologies and they are not written by the same person, so isn't it a little unfair to compare it to other religions and mythologies?
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie Not in the least. ALL religions will have some difference that they can hang their hat on. The time span of the books written compared to earlier religions has more to do with advances in WRITING, not religion.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Please don't ignore me, I honestly don't know how to deal with the argument from scriptures
Some Christians also claim that the earliest biography of Alexander the Great was written 4 centuries after his death and the earliest biography of Julius Caesar was written a century later while the earliest gospel, Mark, was written about 30 years after Jesus’ death and that the earliest account of Jesus (1 Corinthians 15) was written within 5 years of Jesus’ death.
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie I'm not "ignoring" you. Contrary to the opinions of some people, I don't live on the Internet. I have a real life with a real job and a real family and from time to time I may not be able to get back to you very quickly. Also understand that you are but ONE of about 40 people PER DAY that will comment. I responded to your PM on the issue and that will be the end of our discussion on the matter unless you come up with something more convincing.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
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@MingBaiLiaoJie -"religions and mythologies and they are not written by the same person, " Yes they are. They are also both written by the fans of heroes. Still years, years or centuries later. We have two plays called Electra, one by Sophocles and one by Euripides. We can compare and contrast the plays like we do the gospels. We can argue if the person really existed or not. But both wrote about the hero or figure in a way to address ideas of the culture of that time. 4 gospels, 4 views.
wayman29 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie Tacitus is RETELLING the "story"...not claiming it as fact. Read the context. Also, there are many claims to what he said that wasn't in what he said. Just like with the infamous Josephus quote of Jesus being a "miracle worker" when the original appears to have said "was believed to be a miracle worker."
And yes, Joseph Smith read the magical seer stones in the hat, remember.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
I've read it but nowhere does it say that this is merely a belief, what context? How do you know that wasn't what he said? Lucian of Samosata also mentions Jesus
What should the atheist position be on Jesus, should we regard him as a myth and compare him with Hercules or Asclepius or should we say that he existed and was crucified but didn't really do all these miracles?
I actually know nothing about Mormonism and I don't know why people care about it
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie
Anyway it's unfair to compare Mormonism to Christianity because it was written by only one person, the founder, while Christianity was written by several authors, we have documents that speak of wars and natural disasters centuries after the fact, so why do we accept those but disregard the Bible? Is it merely because it speaks of miracles? But I hear alot of people saying that archaeology has proven much of the New Testament and Dr. Clark H. Pinnock says the following
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie
"There exists no document from the ancient world witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies and offering so superb an array of historical data on which an intelligent decision may be made. An honest [person] cannot dismiss a source of this kind. Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational [i.e., anti-supernatural] bias."
MingBaiLiaoJie 1 year ago
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@MingBaiLiaoJie - pt1 " What should the atheist position be on Jesus, should we regard him as a myth and compare him with Hercules or Asclepius or should we say that he existed and was crucified but didn't really do all these miracles?" Not speaking for all atheists here but I think one opinion would be that he may have existed and possibly was some sort of intresting person and the events were elaborated to make him into something her maybe was not. all the miracles, sermons....cont..
wayman29 1 year ago
@wayman29 pt-2 cet.. were put in the gospels to show they believed him to be the new Elijah, Moses ect. Should we view him as a mythological figure also you bet. The gospels wanted us to when they added elaborated claims with pagan themes to build the theology. That is how mythology is made. Myths are simply facts that never happened. Amazing.
wayman29 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie- When it comes to hero worship such ideas come on fast. It happened a lot in the Roman Imperial cult. Titus was seen as a deity's son almost as soon as Vespasian left the Jewish War to be empire. By then he himself was viewed as a God.
wayman29 1 year ago
@MingBaiLiaoJie I don't know of any particular "famous examples", but general research into the counter claims is all you need. Each out of body experience is practically the same (Shermer explains why in the book I recommended). Never is anything specific seen. Never is there anything that can be falsified. And it all boils down to their brain hallucinated as a result of the chemicals released in times of extreme trauma.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
god is true to his people life is like because of adam and eve picking the apple from the tree into temptaion so dude no offence but life is like that so we can have a happy life even though you have an illness cause as many say they want to go to heaven and all those places were your happy with who you believe in
xxfunnyguyxxful 1 year ago
It's sad that there's more people thatdisagree with all these video rather than people who are smart and know what to look forward to, more the reason to become an atheist. :D
PhazonIsAwesome 1 year ago
google Doe's Account, its insane.
spellingsit 1 year ago
PreyerWerks fer the SnakeOilSalesmen!! YES!! 10% Fer the SNAKEOIL!! FERWHATEVERAILSYEW!! hehehe!!
warwithangels 2 years ago
Hey, if you haven't already you should check out
B. F. Skinner "Superstition in the pigeon" experiments it demonstrates how superstitions are formed.
Great vids by the way!
SinuousStudios 2 years ago
The all-knowing, all-loving etc God lets people suffer so that they may be him again.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
Praise the armodilo!
Crayshack 2 years ago
religion has more plotholes than a bad movie.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
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god may not respond; but he is always on time.
wevor4tard 2 years ago
lies
Bonez100193 2 years ago
okay, belive what you want, kid. But when we all die we'll find out the truth so lets just leave it at that.
wevor4tard 2 years ago
actually, when we die, we're dead...you won't "know" anything...your brain won't be working. I say we leave it at THAT.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
"actually, when we die, we're dead" And you learnt that from experience? How would you possibly know that? Why don't you admit that you don't know?
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
HAH! KH told you! xD
nah j/k im not that rude
Bonez100193 2 years ago
Wow, God works just like a Magic Eight Ball! Both answer with yes, no, or maybe and both are antique novelty items!
Hatesfury08 3 years ago 11
". . .both are antique novelty items!"
Nah! The Magic Eight Ball is merely vintage, which means it's made of higher quality materials to higher standards of quality, not to mention a finer finish in better condition.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 2 years ago 6
Hey! I have a good idea, let's all worship the Magic Eight Ball! And while we are at it, let's write a poorly written and confusing book to try and convince others to believe in the Magic Eight Ball in order to eventually scam money off them.
XxAllyssaRulezxX 2 years ago
Yeah meditation is very good.
tamica98121 3 years ago
If a human sacrifice didn't work, you just needed to sacrifice more humans.
Hmm... still no rain, kill more humans.
Onodera1980 3 years ago
Folks used to pray till their knees were bloody for cancer and heart patients. They died anyway.
Now that medical science has stents, heart bypass, radiation, chemo etc. they live on into their 80's and 90's.
God didn't have anything to do with it.
P. T. Barnum said..."There's A Sucker Born Every Minute!"
Cammmpbell 3 years ago
Once you realize that the Universe is totally random, and there is no "grand plan", it all starts to make sense. It also makes the Universe far more interesting than if there were a divine plan. Chaos is fantastic. God is BORING!
poopnoodle3000 3 years ago 2
Random just means you don't understand it.
SomethingSeaVlog 3 years ago
I completely agree. Can you believe how boring it would be if heaven did exist? From most any religion, it sounds like a crazy boring place.
Onodera1980 3 years ago
that study is interesting. prayer dose help sick people get better. there have been multitudes of studies that proved that praying decreases stress. the reduction of stress helps the people get better. now this isn't saying its magical or mystical but it dose calm and destress you like meditation. perhaps the prayers where stressing out the prayees by asking "god pleas don't give this nice person a fatal brain hemorrhage during the night".
DonHoraldo 3 years ago
Perhaps you should meditate them. -.-
XChillX42 3 years ago
I do. often.
DonHoraldo 3 years ago
-.- I don't rally care.
XChillX42 3 years ago
I once prayed that nothing would happen, waited for five minutes.. and nothing happened! The prayer works! That proves it.
pienipaha 3 years ago 6
My prayer worked better. I prayed that nothing would happen for a day after I went to sleep, and then I rammed my head into the wall. I woke up after 3 days. God exceeded my expectations! Praise the Lawd!!
SomethingSeaVlog 3 years ago
Wow, that's amazing. Praise the the All Mighty!
Sorta like when I hoped I had more time to read to an examination so the lord struck me with a painful tonsil infection so I had to take the test a second time instead! He's so wise.
pienipaha 3 years ago
My God's still better than Your God. Neener neener, NEENER!
SomethingSeaVlog 3 years ago
Nobody beats Mr. Armadillo!
pienipaha 3 years ago 3
All Hail Mr. Armadillo
pienipaha 3 years ago
I haven't researched the 'What the bleep do we know' througouly enough to conclude that the whole thing is crap. However, I will admit that it contains pseudoscience.
At least it is more accurate than the Bible, but than again I really don't know.
Honestly, I post the comment here to find out more information on the subject. Claiming it's just crap does nothing.
Hey King maybe you can dedicate a whole episode to reviewing the movie.
miamimanni 3 years ago
The placebo affect didn't work. I'm shocked.
What about a movie like "What the Bleep Do We Know" which shows (or maybe theorizes) how through something a bit more eccentric than positive thinking can actually result in affecting reality through quantum mechanics. If that movie is viable, than there is something to praying. Right?
miamimanni 3 years ago
Well that movie would have to be viable first. Instead of being just the steaming pile of turd that it is.
787Bisurdaddy 3 years ago
I have a red bandana, that means I'm a god!
Akulshae 3 years ago
Thanks for reply, my moms been talking to me about how revelations is coming true, how gag and magag will attack Isreal and such soon *iran and Russia* and be curious about just how much if anything the Christian claims that revelations and other unfullfilled prophecies are coming true. Everyone talks about the ones int he past, love to hear about modorn ones.
wolfwing1 3 years ago
Heh interesting, if you havn't already, I be cirous to hear the non christian thoughts on revelations and the "apparent" fullfilling of prohecies, this is one of the small hitches I'm finding is that many claim that what ever other faults the bible has, things like the computer chip meeting the requirements of mark of the beast, or Iran Russia poised to destroy isreal fitting the promise of it in the bible curious to see how well if at all these line up. And no I'm not christian just curioous.
wolfwing1 3 years ago
I have a video on prophesies like those on the list to come. It should be soon.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
Well, for a prayer experiment to be properly double-blind, the subjects need to be unaware whether they are in the control group, and so do whoever is interviewing/examining them to see how they're doing. But the people who are praying for them probably _should_ know who they're praying for, shouldn't they?
Also, this video's sound is really low volume, and there are at least a couple other videos of yours like this. I wish you'd redo & reupload, especially if you're gonna put it in a playlist.
Heathenfidel 3 years ago
I probably should...but I know me...and I probably won't.
Too lazy, sorry.
I might though.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
Thanks again!
templarart 3 years ago
When my mother conceived me, through finally that & labor when she could've died, she said she had people pray for myself & her: probably wouldn't want to show her this. Might break her heart..
Though, I was also born on July 7th (7/7)- creepy, eh? hmm haha
9Ghostly9Fish9 3 years ago
creepy? Not really...you had a one in 31 chance of it. (1/1, 2/2, 3/3, 4/4...it works with any month)...of course I know what you meant, it just reminds me of the movie "23"...given enough angles to approach it you can find something creepy about any set of numbers.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
well said daimenkainffxi
SprolesIsGod43 3 years ago
*****
aZeroGodist 4 years ago
god is a magic 8-ball, haha
BernierCR42 4 years ago 2
the jets scoring two more touchdowns??? Now that WOULD prove divine intervention! ;)
KingHeathen 4 years ago
gambling sucks dude, its probabilistically designed to make you lose money. think about it would they actually be running a game that makes negative money, or breaks even? it would be pointless, they systematically design these games to rake in cash, every 500$ u spend u make a 100$
WizardRealms 4 years ago
With all due respect, there is more to prayer than you think. You should do some research on thought forms and how prayer forms mental pictures in your mind. This may not be a function of religion.
volstar88 4 years ago
As you said, it's NOT a function of religion. By comparision, you (as I understand it from the one comment, sorry if I'm off) are talking about praying to get a better job or make the football team or whatever...I'm talking about praying to heal a sick friend or win the lottery or anything else that is outside your own ability. Again, wishing on a falling "star" would do the same thing as a prayer. Prayer boils down to superstition, luck, or some other coincidence.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I understand where you are coming from, I to am looking for scientific answers of how prayer works......or if it works at all. Believe it or not, there are theories that do support prayer. I was skeptical at first but I have seen some things out there that have me reconsidering my doubt.
volstar88 4 years ago
everything I've seen has shown it to have no effect. If then one study carries a more positive number, it must then be offset by other studies that show negative effect (those exist too) to average it back out to "chance".
KingHeathen 4 years ago
you're part of the bloods arent you!
I am going to tell my crip buddy on you :(
thefakeyeti 4 years ago
don't piss off the 'dillo, dude...just a warning. Now i'm going to flash my 'dillo gang sign: ,))))_
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Excellent video, Mr. Heathen to all that is holy and just, sir!
Continue your campaign against ignorance, you have the backing of Rayonne!
Rayonne 4 years ago
glad to have it too!
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I happened to get in a fight with the catholic Jesus freak In this case a lil 13 yr old boy who was felt I was poor and needy enough he tried to tell me that god is there but he made man to just worship him and women from men and it was JUST so PROVEN in the XX XY and he wasnt to happy when I informed him that since IF there is a god he is either not onmipotent an caring or he is teechnically the root if not CREATOR of all evil
Arekya 4 years ago
I bet he wasn't too happy there...of course the Bible does mention at least twice that I can think of that God IS the creator of evil...so you may be right there.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
He wasl l jsut like "no.. Satan is.. he did it with his free will.. he created evil, god didn;t" and I responded with well, goid created satan, and if he is so omnipotent he would know that satan woulddo such awqful thigns so in away he created evil
Arekya 4 years ago
God needed a bit of spice. It's shit watching a DVD for the 60th time, knowing EXACTLY what's gonna happen, no matter what the movie is!
I don't believe in God but I do believe in luck. And luck has to be EARNED! You need to DO SOMETHING before luck happens, also you need to be fully aware or you miss your chance. I'm rambling
smokedsausage69 4 years ago
it has flying spagetti monster all over it :P
beloniidotcom 4 years ago
ra-men
KingHeathen 4 years ago
The Christian notion of prayer as being something that begs a Higher Being for something is far removed from the Jewish notions in which Christians claim origin. For us, the word "tefilah" (translated loosely as "prayer") is a reflexive verb, which shows that the action is to transform something inside us, and not to beg anyone for anything. It is much closer to meditation than the Christian begging G-d.
mlinarskito 4 years ago
I've heard something similar to what you said from another Jewish person that I've been corresponding with. Be on the look out for a video I'll be doing on this notion as well as a few others on how Christianity ISN'T EVEN CLOSE to being part of the Jewish faith...another will come behind it about Jewish beliefs and how they've changed.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I'll pray to the blue bandanna god... He'll only answer yes! Wait why pray? He's all knowing...
Ramouss 4 years ago
lol...prove us wrong by proving us right...I love that line and I will be borrowing it.
ginoggg 5 years ago
use it freely! thanks for the response!
KingHeathen 5 years ago