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  • Why are you not dressed? That's all I'm gonna comment on this video, cause it's mindboggling how many people I see on YouTube who do this.

  • @DonQuixotec because it works, i think the real question is, why are you dressed?

  • @JamesEzSecretChannel Touche.. touche..

  • Has anyone noticed the inherent (albeit well meaning) contradiction in the following?

    1) Person A is a smart person.

    2) Person A doesn't understand how Person B feels in the situation.

    3) Person A doesn't bother to look at the situation from Person B's situation.

    4) Person A takes the time and effort to over-react in a YouTube video to Person B.

    5) But Person A is still a smart person.

    If you can think deeply on feminism, you should also consider how real people actually feel when you meet them

  • @Alexandermeister yeah, i probably shouldn't have used smart, and not smart, as the terms to define the different groups, i'll concede to that

  • Finally! Someone who explained the issue with rational thought. I agree with you, and also believe that it wasn't so much that she was lashing out on this guy...just that being alone at 4am does make you feel a little uncomfortable and she had JUST been in a conference about sexism. This wasn't sexist but clearly she has very strong opinions about her cause. He needed a better approach.

    Also, I personally have said no in this sort of situation and had had a response that wasn't the best.

  • Damn straight.

  • well said.

  • Thing is about Skepchick is that she is going to use any interaction, no matter how insignificant, to reinforce her own views,. If you are determined to see something, then you will manufacture it no matter what the actual circumstances. (See: racism, religion, etc. etc.)

    It's sad that she has allowed her own emotional issues and previous negative experiences to so cloud her judgment and poison her views about men.

  • @johnnyphoenix74 You said it, mate.

  • are you sure she was of the 'hardcore feminist community' before this event took place?

    did you bother to actually confirm that before you decided to label her such?

    what is meant by 'hardcore feminist?' is that like 'militant atheist' or 'radical homosexual?' by which i mean a convenient label that people in the majority use to dismiss the views and oppinions of dissenters?

  • I was about to tell you to stfu...but then i finished watching the video and enjoyed it.

    You have a good point here although i still agree with T.J.

    "Who the fuck cares about this!"

  • well that shrill fat 'Amazing' (i think that may be false advertising there, i felt underwhelmed) guy sure cared about it, the people telling her to STFU and die or tell her they hope she gets raped seem to really care about it.

    everybody is screaming that this is a non-issue, but the still keep making videos and comments to tell her what a bitch, ugly whore, frigid dyke, militant man-hating feminist she is.

    this whole event has been very illuminating, and not in a good way.

  • @daiklaive

    Personally, i think she should feel good about getting asked to have a cup of coffee because i wouldn't even notice her on the street if she walked by me.

    Also, everyone is not "screaming" that this is a non-issue. A few somewhat respected people are agreeing with her and the rest of us rational people are left wondering why.

  • Well spoken friend.

  • FYI, for all you morons, Watson never says the guy was a possible rapist. Never. Other people did, and when they tried to debunk the strawman they created, they used myths and falsities about rape. So watson et al. had to debunk all that shit too. Doesn't mean she thought he was rapey.

    It's like when an atheist has to debunk abiogenesis and evolution at the same time, and ppl think the atheist thinks they're the same subject.

    y'all on youtube are full of shit.

  • @onlyAerik

    Whats the time stamp in this video where the word "rapey" is said? Just curious.

  • @88Keyz101 If I meant that james literally said the word "rapey," I would've put it in quotes.

  • @onlyAerik

    Oh, so he didnt "literally" say rapey eh? Well, what is it that he said that you interpreted as "rapey"?

    FYI, if youre going to start a comment by calling people morons for not adhereing to the facts, try to keep your comment as factually based as possible that way you dont sound so moronic yourself.

  • @88Keyz101

    Why don't you go learn to read, because if you weren't a moron, you wouldn't have thought I said he used the word rapey. I explained why you're stupid on this topic.

    I was saying people are lying when they accuse watson of calling the guy an attempted rapist, or even a likely rapist, or acting like a rapist (that's what rapey meant).

    You're stupid if you thought I said James himself thought the guy was acting like a rapist. You evidently have poor reading skills.

  • @onlyAerik

    Poor reading skills eh? Let me re-read then.

    1 Week ago:

    "Doesn't mean she thought he was rapey."

    today:

    "Why don't you go learn to read, because if you weren't a moron, you wouldn't have thought I said he used the word rapey."

    Hmmm... interesting.

  • @onlyAerik She didn't say "rape" or "rapey" but she implied it very strongly when she set the scene: "I was a woman, alone, in a hotel, in a foreign country, at 4AM..." -- she's not describing a Sunday picnic, is she?

  • @JamesEzSecretChannel I'd rather watch a long video than a video that feels like it's made by sxephill

  • @B0RED0ME1O1 and if you were the majority the world would be a much more thoughtful longer attention spanned place, but it's not.

  • @Aaephoria i'm rubbing my nipples on cam, next video, just for you :P

  • good point but invest in a tripod. keep it up!

  • @CrypticArtist I've actually got a tripod i just don't use it much on this channel, if I may whore myself a little, check out my channel TheJamesPope for some more professional videos if you like :)

  • You actually made a good point. Congrats.

  • I think your massive amount of editing is annoying. You're a prick.

  • I think you are spot on!

    The interesting thing in her comment is that he did not put a time restriction on "when" to drink coffee. It might have been perfect is she went the next day.

  • i think she was freaked out about the heading to his hottel room for coffee thing. to wich a normal person would respond, (Assuming he was not freakish psycho killer looking) lets get coffee at a local hot spot in the open public. Other than the offer of the going to the hottel room i see nothing wrong with it. But im gay so what the fuck do i know.

  • "OH GOB A MAN NICELY ASKED ME OUT! HE MUST BE A RAPIST!" jebus tap dancing christ. Anywho I concur, it is likely, just from the way the advanced was phrased, he liked her, he was very nervous, and she wasn't interested obviously, however she blew the whole thing way out of proportion. She took it the wrong way.

  • PUT A SHIRT ON NIGGER

  • @popolynn2

    hey! pull a "g" back and throw that "n" forward, i'ma Ginger

  • The term is not "Hardcore Feminist". The term is "Bullshitting Misandrist Man-hating Castration"

    ---

    Fun fact: Google Chrome does not recognize Misandrist as a word. Misandry much?

  • @Failmaster0 i think that spell check shit is random, i've had it tell me all types of words were wrong that I went and looked up and found I was right about

  • Why are you naked?

  • @GdoubleWB

    to gain more female festering subscribers :P

  • Great point, also imagine if the guy doesn't often put himself out there like that and she reacts this terribly, that will definitely make him even more apprehensive the next time.

  • real talk

    

  • "come back to my hotel room and let me show you my coffee maker..." yeah actually thats creepy to have some stranger in an elevator ask you. Try the more logical "would you like to have coffee in the hotel restaurant?' this way it will be in a public place, and that yes coffee and talk are what will occur and she is free to leave at any time. I have gone to strangers hotel rooms several times, just NOT for coffee. He might be a nice guy, but that was an odd pick up line lol.

  • @kortick50 no.

  • i have no problem with her feeling a little uncomfortable. but publicly slapping him like that is just mean. and to try to victimize yourself like that is also wrong.

  • @kortick50 what pick up line? He asked her if she wanted coffee. not to see his 'coffee maker'. when said correctly by her own words, anyone can see that this wasnt the situation.

  • @NemesisPrime1989 I know he didnt use those exact words. But really, you invite a strange person (male or female) to your HOTEL ROOM for coffee? Cmon now. He should have said restaurant, simple as that. And I never defended her reaction, in fact I never addressed HER at all. I used it as 'if any woman was approached with that line" the result would be questionable. What SHE did is a whole different matter all together and would require more room than these boxes allow for my response to that.

  • @kortick50 The guy was NOT some random guy, he was one of the guys that she had been sitting and talking to for hours in the bar....

  • @Joelice are you people for real??? just because you know someone for a few hours does not mean you should go back to a hotel room with them. If you need to be told THAT MUCH then there is really no need to discuss anything further. Like I said, all he should have done is asked her to go somewhere public, thats all. I never said he was an evil person, just that his proposition was poorly chosen.

  • why doesn't he wear a shirt?

    why is the camera shaking so badly?

    What

    Why

    How

    

  • She does sound like she has her empathic blinders on. It's all about her her her. Men have no uncomfortable feelings, they think with their penis, he just wants to "get me into bed." She needs to turn her empathy back on, yet she probably thinks that would make her vulnerable rather than just human, cause he's certainly not allowed to be human around her.

  • Rebecca Watson is not averse to being Sexualized. Search for the term "2007 Skepchick Calendar" here on YouTube, and you will find it on Rebeccas channel. She sexualized herself in the Calendar, and also by naming herself a Skep 'Chic'. Is she a chick? If you said she was a chick, you would be a paternalistic, male chauvinist pig.

  • @unserviam Ha I didn't know about the first one, and the second one I hadn't thought of,

    very nice, thanks for watching and commenting :)

  • Made me think Seinfeld...

    Poor George, one of them simple folks. Maybe he just meant coffee.... not "coffee". Yes, men think about sex but sometimes it's hard to think at all when there is an attractive woman standing there. In short... perhaps it was the woman with sex on the brain here.

    All she had to say was no. If he had persisted and even become hostile then I can understand why she is so upset. In that case... mace/tazer his ass and give him a good kick to the groin and teeth.

  • @deadman12078 thumbed up for Seinfeld reference, love it

    agree with the mace/ taser

  • I really agree. Well done :)

    Glad someone pointed this out coz I'd not thought of it at all.

  • @benthediceman1 ah, thanks man, it seemed like one of those situations to me where people weren't putting themselves in other people's shoes enough,

    I think that kinda thing is rather prone to happening a lot on the internet

  • Too...Many... Jump Cuts

  • @B0RED0ME1O1 people.

    don.

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    wat.

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    vid.

    eos.

    sry.

  • I personally would have reacted similarly if I was put into such a situation, but I have taken a little bit of time to pose my own question. I would not have been made uncomfortable if he would have just wanted a simple cup of coffee, where the problem for me is if I would like coffee in his hotel room. So I would test his intentions by asking to meet somewhere else like a coffee shop or a restaurant. . I think that she saw a potential threat and tried to handle it.

  • I completely disagree. The issue isn't his comfort, and it is not her discomfort. The issue is whether this feminist can allow her rejection of him to stand on its own in private, or if she feels the need to vindicate herself to the world at large (read, "Does she feel the need to announce to the whole world how laughably insecure the man was to have had to ask - politely - if he could be priviledged with her company in an elevator").

    Well, obviously the second option was her incorrect choose.

  • It's not about how confident or nervous he was. It's about a guy getting her alone in a confined space and without any prior conversation between them asking her to go to his room. It is a situation in which it was quite reasonable to be cautious. Whether the guy was nervous or not had nothing to do with anything.

    All she did was tell people that it was not a great idea to do things like that if you want women to attend such conferences.

    The uproar is all about people's response to that.

  • About time, I agree with you, he waited till he was alone with her (elevator) probably because he did not want to be embaresed by the possibilty of rejection in front other people.

    She is the insensitive one by bringing it to youtube. She said no, nothing happened and both went their own way.

    Maybe his timing was wrong but to hang the situation to dry out on youtube FFS.

    The poor guy probably built himself up to ask her, He did say "dont get me wrong " if you dont ask you dont know.

  • my be she is a dike

  • I think it was fair enough for her to feel uncomfortable, but to make a video about it doesn't achieve anything for anyone, so why bother?

  • @jmurphy95 Making a video about it does achieve educating men about what women find creepy, thus saving men with genuine interests rejection because of inappropriate pick-up lines. Women's first concern is their safety, so any offer needs to respect that or it will likely be rejected.

    Disturbing how this many people in this thread blame the woman for thinking about her need (for safety) is proportional to the number of people who blame women for getting raped for accepting exactly such offers.

  • @ElizabethIsabelle So she speaks for all women does she? Her feelings about the creepiness of a comment like that override all listeners' personal preferences, the context and the delivery?

    Admit it, she made the video because she wanted to vent about her own personal experience, nothing more. That's absolutely her right, as it was her right to reject the original proposal, but let's not pretend there's some great noble purpose.

  • @jmurphy95 If you do not want to receive the information that asking a woman you see in an elevator to go someplace private is likely to be met with rejection, go right ahead and get rejected a lot. Your comment was that making a video about it doesn't achieve anything for anyone - which was incorrect, so I pointed out what it achieved for the men who are willing/able to receive anything from this.

    The rest of your comment is straw-man fallacy stuff.

  • @ElizabethIsabelle Guess what? The world doesn't generally run stuff past the internet before deciding what to do. Do you seriously believe her opinion qualifies as "information"? Pull your head out. It's one person's point of view, and that's all. Valid, but not universal and certainly not worth further discussion, and I'd argue, not worth wasting all this time talking about it.

  • but on a motherfucking shirt god damn

  • Oh wow.

    A polite guy asks a girl a question. She says no. Then makes a YouTube video.

    DUMB.

  • From what I understand she just thought it was creepy and felt a little uncomfortable, which pissed off a lot of people.

  • Wonderful insights. Subscribed. 

  • @dadrogon thank you kindly, much apprecaited :)

  • Whyyy areee you naked? :D

  • @PoopTruffles Fanservice

  • @iCalintz They like him naked?

  • @PoopTruffles I do.

  • @iCalintz I can live with that :3

  • I think the whole situation is blown out of proportion entirley, its really not that huge a deal. But I do agree with your ending points on how she probably perceives the advances of men to be full of confidence when in reality they hardley ever are.

  • TheAmazingAtheist made a real mistake in quoting this person out of context in his video. She talks about the video of the talk she make at the conference that was posted online, and the Misogynistic comments it received. She doesn't call the guy that hits on her misogynistic, she just says he made her uncomfortable.

  • @Jaxomy TJ purposely took her out of context because he just doesn't like feminist.

  • I think she is also a radical feminist and therefore she has this preconcived notion that all men are scum and want her only for sex. That was likely this man's goal but he didn't do it in a rude or sexist way. I think she just wanted to be a victim as many of her ilk (radical feminists) make themselves out to be. So you make a good point, she can't see it from his perspective, but I think it also has to do with her irrational bias towards all men in general.

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