So when Clinton raised taxes and created 23 million jobs and balanced the budget that hurt the economy?
I am sorry but you place blame before it has been enacted. What part enacted caused insurance loss? As I asked what caused the millions to lose insurance before the Health Care Act?
Regulations keep the consumer protected. Somehow you think allowing Industries to pollute helps the consumer? Jobs are created by demand not by profits.
He is planning on raising taxes. Do you not think taxes should be raised you are concerned with the deficit I see. So by your assertion the 25% bracket will pay 37.5%LOL.
What caused the millions to lose their Insurance from 2000 to 2009? The same thing as today Cost.
Liberal regulations cleaned the Cuyahoga River so it wouldn't catch fire anymore. clean air clean water.
I am sorry Police Officers are not Pigs you ignorant fool.
Sorry Bush's last budget was a 1.2 trillion deficit. So by your assertion 1.5 trillion is 5 times 1.2 trillion?
He is increasing taxes by 50 % LOL didn't they extend the Bush tax cuts?
Where has anyone lost their Health Care? Do you just make up BS to spin your own ignorance?
Liberals regulate Industries that have a habit of causing harm to the Public. Conservatives just want to control who you marry, love, type of sex you have, your body, create second class citizens, papers please.
@beyosoco I'm gullible because I'm not so simple-minded that I have to explain everything and every event as part of some simplistic global conspiracy theory? Yep, that's me. It's because my brain works in a funny way, I need evidence, proof and common sense to grasp things, but at least it doesn't afflict you in the same way, eh!
@beyosoco Spoken like a true moron. I'm involved in politics, have met politicians (including current PM) and can assure you all of this cloak and dagger rubbish is indeed rubbish.
Thanks everyone for your support! If you'd like to keep following my poetry adventures, you can find me on myspace (/dannychivers) and Facebook (Danny Chivers: Rambling Poetry Shambles).
I'll respond to the misguided ranty commenters below (who seem to have forgotten that protest is a vital part of democracy and is responsible for practically every positive social change in history) just as soon as I've caught up on some sleep...
1) If a perfect governing system actually worked, i.e if PR actually DIDN'T produce bumbling inefficient governance, or if FPTP didn't mean power concentrated in a few seats then the system WOULD be changed, but why change to another imperfect system just because we have had this for a while.
2) We have elections once in every 4 years because we need stability, not people trying to disrupt the running of the country daily! Anarchy never worked...
No 1 argument: don't change anything because nothing is perfect? Isn't that an argument against ever doing anything to improve our lives?
No 2 argument: people shouldn't get involved in politics except for 1 day every 4/5 years? How else can democracies thrive except through constant 'disruption' of the entrenched elite's efforts to end their democratic accountability?
@phemefilms 1) my point wasn't never to attempt change but that a movement for real change will emerge when then is a NEED for it. 2) Representative democracy is an alternative form of governance, not a free for all. We broke away from the bondage of an absolute monarchy so that the people could govern in their own interest, not so that they could use their capricious little minds en masse to dictate policy on a day to day basis.
Stupid video - advocating what seems to be rule by the mob. Come out to vote everyday, disrupt the government regardless of who wins and whether or not the majority of the people actually WANT that government, or are happy with it trying to run the country. Arrogant to think that a few hyped up activists think they are the "silent majority" when really theyre just a bunch of annoying teens.
Hey Clegg: noone wants to see this, especially not your voters, present or future:
News Flash--Berlin 1933
"Praisident von Queenenbattenburg has invited Herr Hameron, Fuhrer of the National Socialist Conservativen Partei, to form ein government. Reichsproganda Minister Borif Goenson will be Deputy Fuhrer."
Very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war
Strongly for introducing student top-up fees
Moderately against laws to stop climate change
Very strongly for introducing ID cards
Strongly for a stricter asylum system
But this isn't about individual MPs, it's about a rotten unrepresentative system and the struggle for real change from the ground up. This "monologue" is just one small part of a growing chorus...
Congratulations on a well executed poem, and a nice hat to boot; but please would you mind expanding on the details of the world you want to live in and the methods you hope to use to get there? Do you really think that all the people in government are evil?- I think the chances of that are fairly small.
And finally- can i get your thoughts on the kind of party you would create to replace Labour? I assume it wouldn't be one which sat on the streets pissing everywhere...
@wigglesby2009 It's not about individual politicians being "evil", or about creating some magical new party to fix everything - it's about an entire political and economic system that is currently screwing over people and the environment to enrich a wealthy minority, in pursuit of the physically impossible myth of endless economic growth. There are loads of alternative ways of doing things, promoted by amazing social movements all over the world, but not enough space to cover them here!
This is really good :) I am voting this year, if only for the chance of a reformed parliament. If that doesn't happen, this is the attitude I will be fully adopting.
@psyche073 Wow, you're even more cynical than I am! But at no point in the poem do I say "don't vote". I'm just pointing out that anyone who cares about social and environmental justice should be under no illusion that those things are going to magically appear if you just put a cross in the correct box.
@psyche073 Tactical voting to keep out the Tories or to get a hung parliament does make sense, but whoever takes power on Friday - hung parliament or not - they're not going to shift away from the privatising, immigrant-blaming, warmongering, climate-change-lip-servicing political consensus that all three major parties currently share. Unless, of course, we take action to change that. So don't just vote tomorrow, vote every day!
@XtianMetalFan Really? I've always found a bit of thoughtful, bold and strategic direct action protest - well-placed blockades, occupations, mass trespass, the active decommissioning of weaponry and the general disruption of disastrous business-as-usual - to be more effective than stoned flag-waving, myself. But if it works for you, hey, go for it!
This is spot on and very creative. People have got to do more. We are drowning under the threat of climate change, £905,000,000,000 debt and a corporate government who ever get in. We've got to change things ourselves, get together, otherwise things are going to get a lot worse. The cuts planned for the public will see riots back on the street
@Lukeeeeo Thanks for the honesty! It's true, I'm not to everyone's taste...but enough people seem to like it for me to keep doing it. Feel free to copy the text of the poem and perform it wherever you like in your own style, or better yet say what you want to say in your own words and put it out there in your own way. The more people who are putting this kind of message out there via every possible channel, the better....
@dannychiversify Why would I get angry at your nonsence fella, you're nothing to worry about. hence the reason yourself and the rest of you indymedia left wing fantasist types never get anywhere politically. You're all in a minority on the fringes of society with no political power and without the backing of the general public. Anyway, carry on, it's amusing watching your antics.
@charlesthehammerful That's right, because campaigning and protest never achieves anything, except, er, every positive social change from the end of slavery to votes for women to labour rights to the end of apartheid.
More recent examples: ending public acceptance of racism and homophobia; stopping 90% of Thatcher's road-building plans; a European moratorium on GM crops; no new coal-fired power stations; no 3rd runway at Heathrow...all started as minority "fringe" campaigns. I could go on...!
@charlesthehammerful ha ha- we must be having an effect if it managed to engage even an armchair ranter to watch activist videos...are you worried that we may be bringing about the world by action when you only got as far as ranting down the pub about to your mates?
You obviously have no understanding of class... or respect, or manners. Please desist from making badly articulated rude attacks on people with considered arguments.
Love this poem Danny. Not sure about the hat though, makes you look a bit overly camp perhaps ;)
Looks like I might not get to get a chance to vote this time due to an electoral roll screw-up but I fail to get excited about this unrepresentative voting system we have anyway. I've got to agree: every day is voting day.
@JBBlitz
I have so far pointed out your embellishments.
deficit 5 times not true.
Raising taxes 50 % not true.
Police are pigs not true.
Clinton killed 30 million jobs not true.
Short term profits by killing your consumers is ridicules but if you want to believe it go ahead.
You have displayed enough ignorance for one day.
Have a Nice Day.
YTRedActed 10 months ago
@JBBlitz
So when Clinton raised taxes and created 23 million jobs and balanced the budget that hurt the economy?
I am sorry but you place blame before it has been enacted. What part enacted caused insurance loss? As I asked what caused the millions to lose insurance before the Health Care Act?
Regulations keep the consumer protected. Somehow you think allowing Industries to pollute helps the consumer? Jobs are created by demand not by profits.
Politicians break into homes to arrest people?
YTRedActed 10 months ago
@JBBlitz
A budget and a deficit are two different things.
He is planning on raising taxes. Do you not think taxes should be raised you are concerned with the deficit I see. So by your assertion the 25% bracket will pay 37.5%LOL.
What caused the millions to lose their Insurance from 2000 to 2009? The same thing as today Cost.
Liberal regulations cleaned the Cuyahoga River so it wouldn't catch fire anymore. clean air clean water.
I am sorry Police Officers are not Pigs you ignorant fool.
YTRedActed 10 months ago
@JBBlitz
Sorry Bush's last budget was a 1.2 trillion deficit. So by your assertion 1.5 trillion is 5 times 1.2 trillion?
He is increasing taxes by 50 % LOL didn't they extend the Bush tax cuts?
Where has anyone lost their Health Care? Do you just make up BS to spin your own ignorance?
Liberals regulate Industries that have a habit of causing harm to the Public. Conservatives just want to control who you marry, love, type of sex you have, your body, create second class citizens, papers please.
YTRedActed 10 months ago
@beyosoco I'm gullible because I'm not so simple-minded that I have to explain everything and every event as part of some simplistic global conspiracy theory? Yep, that's me. It's because my brain works in a funny way, I need evidence, proof and common sense to grasp things, but at least it doesn't afflict you in the same way, eh!
caversmill 1 year ago
@beyosoco Spoken like a true moron. I'm involved in politics, have met politicians (including current PM) and can assure you all of this cloak and dagger rubbish is indeed rubbish.
caversmill 1 year ago
o the irony of a gaza flag next to a gay liberation flag in this vid, (as the people of gaza bash gay people and put them in jail)
Chriseycarlyeah324 1 year ago
sleepwalking into tyranny...
political parties & media owned by by banksters & corporations...
spread this video...
subvert & oppose the new world order...
it's the new black!
love to all x
pimpdarlin 1 year ago 2
So who are the Bilderberg Group...?
darkwhitty 1 year ago
@darkwhitty
video. google. com/ videoplay?docid=- 9137608930585394968#
pimpdarlin 1 year ago
Thanks everyone for your support! If you'd like to keep following my poetry adventures, you can find me on myspace (/dannychivers) and Facebook (Danny Chivers: Rambling Poetry Shambles).
I'll respond to the misguided ranty commenters below (who seem to have forgotten that protest is a vital part of democracy and is responsible for practically every positive social change in history) just as soon as I've caught up on some sleep...
dannychiversify 1 year ago 3
People like this need to realise 2 thing:
1) If a perfect governing system actually worked, i.e if PR actually DIDN'T produce bumbling inefficient governance, or if FPTP didn't mean power concentrated in a few seats then the system WOULD be changed, but why change to another imperfect system just because we have had this for a while.
2) We have elections once in every 4 years because we need stability, not people trying to disrupt the running of the country daily! Anarchy never worked...
caversmill 1 year ago
@caversmill
No 1 argument: don't change anything because nothing is perfect? Isn't that an argument against ever doing anything to improve our lives?
No 2 argument: people shouldn't get involved in politics except for 1 day every 4/5 years? How else can democracies thrive except through constant 'disruption' of the entrenched elite's efforts to end their democratic accountability?
phemefilms 1 year ago 4
@phemefilms 1) my point wasn't never to attempt change but that a movement for real change will emerge when then is a NEED for it. 2) Representative democracy is an alternative form of governance, not a free for all. We broke away from the bondage of an absolute monarchy so that the people could govern in their own interest, not so that they could use their capricious little minds en masse to dictate policy on a day to day basis.
caversmill 1 year ago
Stupid video - advocating what seems to be rule by the mob. Come out to vote everyday, disrupt the government regardless of who wins and whether or not the majority of the people actually WANT that government, or are happy with it trying to run the country. Arrogant to think that a few hyped up activists think they are the "silent majority" when really theyre just a bunch of annoying teens.
Stand for election? Make a difference that way!
caversmill 1 year ago
Hey Clegg: noone wants to see this, especially not your voters, present or future:
News Flash--Berlin 1933
"Praisident von Queenenbattenburg has invited Herr Hameron, Fuhrer of the National Socialist Conservativen Partei, to form ein government. Reichsproganda Minister Borif Goenson will be Deputy Fuhrer."
seriousnews2 1 year ago
@jpwadelaide Hmmm...Andrew Smith. He voted:
Very strongly for the Iraq war
Very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war
Strongly for introducing student top-up fees
Moderately against laws to stop climate change
Very strongly for introducing ID cards
Strongly for a stricter asylum system
But this isn't about individual MPs, it's about a rotten unrepresentative system and the struggle for real change from the ground up. This "monologue" is just one small part of a growing chorus...
dannychiversify 1 year ago
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adwodon 1 year ago
Danny, if I ever meet you in person, I am giving you a hug.
Mass sit-in around Parliament, anyone?
Benylor 1 year ago 3
Hello Mr Chivers,
Congratulations on a well executed poem, and a nice hat to boot; but please would you mind expanding on the details of the world you want to live in and the methods you hope to use to get there? Do you really think that all the people in government are evil?- I think the chances of that are fairly small.
And finally- can i get your thoughts on the kind of party you would create to replace Labour? I assume it wouldn't be one which sat on the streets pissing everywhere...
wigglesby2009 1 year ago 2
@wigglesby2009 It's not about individual politicians being "evil", or about creating some magical new party to fix everything - it's about an entire political and economic system that is currently screwing over people and the environment to enrich a wealthy minority, in pursuit of the physically impossible myth of endless economic growth. There are loads of alternative ways of doing things, promoted by amazing social movements all over the world, but not enough space to cover them here!
dannychiversify 1 year ago 2
This is really good :) I am voting this year, if only for the chance of a reformed parliament. If that doesn't happen, this is the attitude I will be fully adopting.
Subrosathefirst 1 year ago
This is just a election broadcast for the Tories
psyche073 1 year ago
@psyche073 Wow, you're even more cynical than I am! But at no point in the poem do I say "don't vote". I'm just pointing out that anyone who cares about social and environmental justice should be under no illusion that those things are going to magically appear if you just put a cross in the correct box.
dannychiversify 1 year ago
@psyche073 Tactical voting to keep out the Tories or to get a hung parliament does make sense, but whoever takes power on Friday - hung parliament or not - they're not going to shift away from the privatising, immigrant-blaming, warmongering, climate-change-lip-servicing political consensus that all three major parties currently share. Unless, of course, we take action to change that. So don't just vote tomorrow, vote every day!
dannychiversify 1 year ago
Well done Danny. An old anracho-hippie-YIPPIE !!! still lost in the sixties , I'm proud and encouraged to see that the spirit will never die.
MyohoSound 1 year ago 2
Great video, keep up the good work
haha79471 1 year ago 2
I thought this was an awesome poem, keep it up mate
DUSATV 1 year ago 2
:O It's Amazing! I'm proud to be your cousin :D x
missroxypoxy 1 year ago 2
Brilliant - really good! Ignore the keyboard warriors haha! You akso had a beautiful day at Westminster!
A shamless plug to everyone else - search 'jh voting' for my offensive 2010 election song :-)
jhmusicuk 1 year ago
nothing gets politicians attention like dodging soap and getting high while holding up a cardboard sign or waving a flag!!
XtianMetalFan 1 year ago
@XtianMetalFan Really? I've always found a bit of thoughtful, bold and strategic direct action protest - well-placed blockades, occupations, mass trespass, the active decommissioning of weaponry and the general disruption of disastrous business-as-usual - to be more effective than stoned flag-waving, myself. But if it works for you, hey, go for it!
dannychiversify 1 year ago
This is spot on and very creative. People have got to do more. We are drowning under the threat of climate change, £905,000,000,000 debt and a corporate government who ever get in. We've got to change things ourselves, get together, otherwise things are going to get a lot worse. The cuts planned for the public will see riots back on the street
DylanS37 1 year ago
Most Excellent :0)X
TehQueenOvPixehs 1 year ago
this is an amazing video !! well done man!!!
socialismorbarbarism 1 year ago
Although I agree with your message, your poem was unfortunately diminished by your excruciating delivery style.
Lukeeeeo 1 year ago
@Lukeeeeo Thanks for the honesty! It's true, I'm not to everyone's taste...but enough people seem to like it for me to keep doing it. Feel free to copy the text of the poem and perform it wherever you like in your own style, or better yet say what you want to say in your own words and put it out there in your own way. The more people who are putting this kind of message out there via every possible channel, the better....
dannychiversify 1 year ago 2
Here is an original music video that sums up this video's view. Check it out:
youtube search "Voting Changes Nothing - jh"
colinwoodsy 1 year ago 2
You rhymed spanner with MC Hammer! I love the poem and the vid's great too.
evilzoe3001 1 year ago 2
Brilliant!!!!!
stevelarkinmedia 1 year ago 2
Excellent Danny, liking the video almost as muc as the poem! Now please bring along the biscuits you promised.
clockmenfail 1 year ago 3
Brilliant. More people like you, please. Keep writing them Danny.
decompoiq 1 year ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Why don't you piss off back to your upper class hell hole you prick.
charlesthehammerful 1 year ago
@charlesthehammerful
Hooray! My first ludicrously angry troll. I must be doing something right.
dannychiversify 1 year ago 16
@dannychiversify Why would I get angry at your nonsence fella, you're nothing to worry about. hence the reason yourself and the rest of you indymedia left wing fantasist types never get anywhere politically. You're all in a minority on the fringes of society with no political power and without the backing of the general public. Anyway, carry on, it's amusing watching your antics.
charlesthehammerful 1 year ago
@charlesthehammerful That's right, because campaigning and protest never achieves anything, except, er, every positive social change from the end of slavery to votes for women to labour rights to the end of apartheid.
More recent examples: ending public acceptance of racism and homophobia; stopping 90% of Thatcher's road-building plans; a European moratorium on GM crops; no new coal-fired power stations; no 3rd runway at Heathrow...all started as minority "fringe" campaigns. I could go on...!
dannychiversify 1 year ago 4
@charlesthehammerful ha ha- we must be having an effect if it managed to engage even an armchair ranter to watch activist videos...are you worried that we may be bringing about the world by action when you only got as far as ranting down the pub about to your mates?
undercurrentspaulo 1 year ago
Upper Class?! Danny Chivers?!
You obviously have no understanding of class... or respect, or manners. Please desist from making badly articulated rude attacks on people with considered arguments.
stevelarkinmedia 1 year ago 5
Love this poem Danny. Not sure about the hat though, makes you look a bit overly camp perhaps ;)
Looks like I might not get to get a chance to vote this time due to an electoral roll screw-up but I fail to get excited about this unrepresentative voting system we have anyway. I've got to agree: every day is voting day.
orangejon 1 year ago
@orangejon
Bit I AM a bit overly camp...
dannychiversify 1 year ago