What on earth is this? Music sounds like a 90s computergame soundtrack - read: crap - and it doesn't even harmonise with the nerdshow. 500k likes ? you are all mad dumb.
the first was V for Vendetta and now comes Equilibrium but equilibrium is older but the father is is the same person in this movies and i can be true that equilibrium is the next part
I liked this video very much ;) because it didn't only show the gore and the fighting, which of course was very entertaining when u watch the movie^^ but i guess this scenes where picked more intelligent! they show what was really important and also the message and symbolic of the film :) It is just great <3
@GeneralAnimator i wouldnt call it plot holes. theres just a bunch of contradictory stuff. sometimes theres a lot of flash and intellectual stimulation for a society that looks down on it
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@xxfluffyxx215xx It does look like the sort of movie I'd enjoy. It has a unique presentation... might not have done well at the box office but it sure is interesting to watch.
whoaaaaaaaa okay, 0:20 that was basically in my dream last night in which behind the shot there was a river with large bridge/tunnels going across to where the people are. I was on my bike trying to catch up to some people. I swear I'm not deja vuing or source amnesing, I'm tearing up because I was actually there living that.
Did u actually watch the movie? Christian Bale had that thing(dunno if its a zit) next to his eye all the time. Btw, that dumb fallout quote is out dated
the thought of escape comes from one place inside your mind which allows you to dream far from reality and the reason for doing so is to be at equilibrium with matter,emotion,and life.to avoid criticism SAY NOTHING...DO NOTHING....BE NOTHING and so on so gone in a world without fear is fiction life without pain is fantasy.LOGIC IS NOT DEAD its hidden beneath reason there is a reason for every action we make..
The film kinda sucked. I liked the idea, but it would be impossible for a person to function without their emotions. Everything we do is influenced by emotion.
@BangingMash that's the shock value that isn't intended to be so. its kind of a paradox. thats a part of what makes the whole movie great. i think you should read the top rated comment and then think.
that's the SHOCK VALUE....it's a kind of PARADOX. If you would prefer smaller words than here it is. You notice that without emotions, the people in the movie have an UNHUMAN like feel. Hence the IMPOSSIBLE being completely intended.
@AarenCreed No. It's not the shock value. it's the downfall of the movie. I'm not saying it was bad, I quite enjoyed some scenes, and the quotes Sean Bean's character said. And no, I didn't get the feel of the unhuman feeling, cos little things like a soldier saying "Cleric!" is still emotionally influenced. Nice try, but it didn't really work. Especially when Brandt gets dragged off saying that Preston is the betrayer. Doesn't work, sorry.
@BangingMash Due to the very nature of what they are trying to accomplish there are bound to be imperfections. I'm not saying the movie was fantastic, because it wasn't, but you are letting the sleights of the movie over-rule what the whole movie was about. That's sad.
@AarenCreed It's not sad, its being critical, I'm sorry if I don't see the greatness that you see. That's my opinion, and I'm sure it's shared by others, just how others share your opinion. Lets leave it at that....
I saw this movie and Ioved it so much.The message is complex but the facts and the subject are so simple.the message is deep:"so close but yet so far from the people that we love and from the things that bring us happyness and peace in life-a way which do not solve anything ,because in the end all that matters is to feel,an ability that we received from our birth and which we can't cork up , to have a reason for living
It took me years to realise just how deep this movie is. Studying philosophy and religion alike, I saw one thing: Sheer logic doesn't lead anyway, it's a tool. If you use it the right way, it's a great one, but if you believe it to be the way to follow - you are going nowhere. Only feelings can give purpose to anything. If they are destroyed, nothing remains. Literally nothing, no meaning, no reason for anything at all. A world of logic is DEAD.
@GortosXtreme Wow, I think that was one of the most interesting and soultouching things I've every read. It realy says exactly what I feel right now and describes the whole situation.
@notessimodude We can do without religion. We can do without feelings as well as long as our "programming" keeps us alive, like computers. We can, for sure. But the first question is - is it logical? For that, we would have to know way more than we know today. And the second question: Do we want it?
@GortosXtreme Because religion is responsible for over 70% of wars in the history of mankind, and is responsible for MOST of the ignorance and arrogance surrounding our society.
@notessimodude You are mistaken. Religion has never started a war nor has it encouraged ignorance - religion is just the belief in some higher being or layer of existance and the resulting respect and often worshipping. What you're talking about is (often religious) ideology used by few to manipulate many. Abusing religion as a tool. There is one thing that's important: We can't prove nor disprove god, we just don't understand the universe enoug. But for believers, religion is a good thing.
@GortosXtreme Alright, the people who follow religion started the wars, hence the reason it's a bad influence. Religion IS a tool for men who want power, and in more than one way, it's a primitive form of government. God is an unfalsifiable statement. Here's an example of another one: I have a T-Rex living in my back yard that cannot be seen, heard, or touched. Prove it isn't there. You can't? That's the ignorance that fuels theistic arrogance. Many facts we have point against God, not with him.
@notessimodude There is no evidence for your Tyrannosaur within the system we are researching - whereas existance itself is a reason to believe in a higher being. I'm an agnostic, being convinced its existance can't be proven nor disproven, but the theists have a valuable point here. There is order and there is existance itself, there is life (which exists against the law of entropy). Arrogance is believing we have enough knowledge about the universe to make statements about its nature.
@GortosXtreme Existance is NOT, I repeat, NOT a reason to believe that some magic man in the clouds made it all. If that's the case, then my T-Rex has more evidence of existing than God! Theists have no valuable point at all. Saying existance itself proves their beliefs is as stupid as saying the fact my shoe is size 12 prove my T-Rex. I hope by your last sentence you realize you've just agreed with my on that part.
@notessimodude Nonono, there is no magic man in the clouds nore a wizard nor a person at all (and I'm an agnostic, remember). But there is existance instead of non-existance, order instead of chaos and life, which defies the most fundamental law of nature ever discovered: Entropy (all order is converting to chaos). If we want to make assumptions about its nature, no scientific reasoning is sufficient. We can just not assume anything, or assume a higher being. More isn't possible to man (atm).
@GortosXtreme You're missing one very important part. Entropy is only beginning now and won't even start to create physical effects for another 10 to 20 billion years, if you're talking about on a Universal scale. Order emerges from chaos, that IS an observable fact.
Listen, through this nonsensical chatter, I emerged with one final and inevitable verdict. A final one, which is unable to be altered or changed through time or space or any other dimension of existence.
"We can't prove nor disprove god, we just don't understand the universe enough" -GortosXtreme
There are 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 particles in the universe that we can observe however we only know 1/500,000,000 , we as humans are ignorant.
@notessimodude All you say is right, yet, there is one missing layer: Things exist. there are unbreakable rules to their workings. And nobody has, ever, been able to explain that. I won't even start with quantum theory which makes the universe undetermined... Just note: You can say: "It's unexplainable", or you can say "There is something higher". A being, and we may or may not call it god. A manifestation of will, perhaps, something responsible. As an agnostic, I think that's reasonable as well
@GortosXtreme The theory of God is worth looking into, but all the evidence we've accumulated in the past centuries has almost completely disproven the Christian God.
@notessimodude The Bible is a great book, but its stupid parts (apocalypse, for instance) and centuries of relentless interpretation (invventing things like the trinity or virgin mary) have ruined much of its essence. People at that time weren't too good at understanding abstract ideas, you had to give them stories and examples, that's why the Bible is hard to understand. The Christian god isn't too different to our hypothetical god here, if not for the vatican :D
@notessimodude A very simple and misguided statement. All evidence in science conclude that everything in the universe is interconnected. DNA even reveals that ALL life forms are varying expressions of one vast life force. Because all things in the Universe are composed of energy, and therefore connected, each thought you have has a direct effect on your physical reality. Food for thought.
@xxevilgeniusxx If you want me to be specific; I believe it says God made people in his/her/its image. Each individual is a god by default. If reality disappoints, you can deconstruct it and make it how ever you see fit. Quantum Mechanics provides as good of proof as Gods existence as we should need, for now. Its just so complicated and easy to obfuscate that few theists or atheists or any for that matter know the truth about quantum mechanics.
@xxevilgeniusxx The observer does not give reality to the entity, but rather the observer decides what aspect of the reality they wish to discern. Causality in this is hidden from human investigation; as observation and measurement create change them selves and force new choices and realities in the end.
@xxevilgeniusxx I'm still starving if that was food for thought, lol. Just because the laws of physics state everything operates under one form of energy or sequence doesn't mean everything is interconnected, spiritually or physically. The thoughts affect the space around you so little because your brain waves aren't powerful at all. Physical change is made when you act upon a thought. Saying all lifeforms operate under one vast force is, sorry, a bit of an arrogant statement. We don't know yet.
@GortosXtreme I completely agree. The problem is that people use their feelings over logic far to often. Logic can be applied to nearly (as my disclaimer :P) any situation and find the right outcome. When people follow only their feelings, the outcome is dependent on luck. A proper balance must be attained. Feelings are used as a starting point. You start with how you feel, and then use logic to justify those feelings. Any feeling that can't be justified with logic should be discarded.
@GortosXtreme And to slightly modify what I said, logic absolutely must be derived from a set of concrete morals. Morals must be absolute and timeless. A moral that applies now will apply 50 years from now. Relative morals are like trying to set two inaccurate clocks off of each other - it doesn't work.
@jimmyt3411 Logic and reasoning are great and I do love using them. They are just nothing that makes life worth living, they are tools you can use whenever neccessary.
@GortosXtreme -- You are right, but a world without logic is madness. It is somewhat akin to the Japanese saying that "Vision without action is a daydream, and action without vision is a nightmare."
@OneWingedShark a vision without action is a dream that has yet to accomplished and a action without a vision is blindness. A world without logic is lost.you have a brilliant mind simply because of your response that tells a lot that you are awake while the rest is fast asleep i am a mere person that simply wishes for a better economy a stronger nation peaceful world will not be earth and the reason for that remark is we are humans and our minds have no boundaries no limits only law limits
@GortosXtreme I center myself around Philosophy, and I'm going to put it out there, in my words
"If I cared too, I could compare everyones personal view, and perspective to every act of war, murder, rape and viloence ...You can give me all the reasons in the world, but it still won't make it right." ~Benjamin Thomas
@desambio I think he's right. I would only add that we have to learn how to use both. Our best bet is to balance them as well as we can and hope we can live with any mistakes we make along the way.
@jimbeen1771 I'm always glad to read an educated and reasonable point concerning my opinions... Especially if the author makes clear why he considers my statement wrong :)
@jimbeen1771 Something gives me the impression you are just here for conflict, so I guess it is unneccessary to further explain my satement. Please note: I did not say logic isn't useful.
@GortosXtreme That sounds very inspiring a topic for a fiction novel based on life where civilization is drained of feeling and is left with just robotic, mechanical, systematic logic. And combined with this music.....thanks for the idea hahaha
its the daily life of many people its sad isn't it, we all hope that we could turn the world into a better place but you cant, we cant because some people only wants to live in a fantasy world and control other people with power, and as long there are humans there will be war, and as long there is war this will be the life many people will live. because war.. war never changes.
@Highbudget the only thing i used from fallout was "because war... war never changes" and this is not where i got a line from some game its about the meaning of my comment, but people like only like to ruin the moment of hope. you like to ruin it because you didn't come up with a good comment like mine.
the movie is about people trying to get rid of Emotion but that could never happen so Bale desided to stop this and from then all he killed all those who stand against emotion.
The movie ended where it started. War waged before, it waged after. The supression of emotion was just a time of true peace, at the cost of your soul, Don't gain the world & loose your soul~
@Talldumbdork95 That's funny both don't ever really appear to be acting at all. They just say their lines. The reason Bale was so perfect for this role is because of his ability to not act what so ever. It's a great movie thanks to Bale having no emotion which is key in this film.
In a Fascist future where all forms of feeling are illegal, a man in charge of enforcing the law rises to overthrow the system.
HeizenberWK 1 week ago
Noooooo! Don't shoot Sean!
ClinicallyObeseMule 3 weeks ago
this movie was pretty good, why the critics didn't like it is unclear
hm9831 1 month ago
@hm9831
fuck critics man,, they like shits only
elmagicomessi 1 month ago
gave me goosebumps
DawgyDawzy 1 month ago
Pretty sure Equilibrium was the best movie ever <3 :D
Ocilet440 1 month ago in playlist Epic Orchestra
What on earth is this? Music sounds like a 90s computergame soundtrack - read: crap - and it doesn't even harmonise with the nerdshow. 500k likes ? you are all mad dumb.
JoesCanal 1 month ago
I kinda like the idea of a society that has no human instincts human nature.
WatchmenDrManhattan 1 month ago
Amazing job, love the video and the music, eye and ear candy, indeed. ;) Cheers.
shadow3brigade3SBX3 2 months ago
I loved the song up until the woodwinds come in. Strings are amazing and with a little percussion its all right but band ruins everything :(
XxRaindr0psxX 2 months ago
I would like to use this in a movie I will be making, crediting you and the "Epic Orchestra". Is this OK?
urlmichael 2 months ago
the first was V for Vendetta and now comes Equilibrium but equilibrium is older but the father is is the same person in this movies and i can be true that equilibrium is the next part
CUBETechie 3 months ago
@CUBETechie say whhhattt???
SoldiersGirl969 3 months ago
@SoldiersGirl969 yes i have see that the father who speak to the people is the same man who zalks to the people in v for vendetta so my opinion
CUBETechie 3 months ago
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If you want to hear an epic christmas song you should check out Spiritual Plague's cover of God Rest Ye merry Gentlemen.
Epicpwnage808 3 months ago
whats the name of this movie
RyuHoly 3 months ago
u forgot Midsummer Night's Dream for christian bale, haha
DrillmanRulez 3 months ago
Woah, Woah, Woah....was that batman? DUNANNAANANNANNAN BATMAN!
Vampires360 3 months ago
one day i will be able to shoot guns like they do.....
MrMark2202 3 months ago
Great Moive
MegaHoova52 3 months ago
@DirtySockinator This movie was heavily influenced by the movies "Fahrenheit 451" and "1984".
swlgj33 3 months ago
Is this movie like Fahrenheit 451 or something?
DirtySockinator 3 months ago
@DirtySockinator movie is called Equilibrium really good movie
pkownz3 3 months ago
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Is this movie like Fahrenheit 451?
DirtySockinator 3 months ago
Is this movie like Fahrenheit 451?
DirtySockinator 3 months ago
omg i remember this movie :D
keithtreason 3 months ago in playlist instrumental music playlist
god, i could watch this for hours :'D so epic!
AirinMatalang 4 months ago
I liked this video very much ;) because it didn't only show the gore and the fighting, which of course was very entertaining when u watch the movie^^ but i guess this scenes where picked more intelligent! they show what was really important and also the message and symbolic of the film :) It is just great <3
AirinMatalang 4 months ago
This film is awesome but to watch this video is highly not recommended for people which going to watch this film.
Karolisavenue 4 months ago
Patrick Bateman: I'm on a diet.
Jean: What, you're kidding, right? You look great... so fit... and thin.
Patrick Bateman: Well, you can always be thinner... look better.
Jean: Then maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner. I wouldn't want you to lose your willpower.
Patrick Bateman: That's okay. I'm not very good at controlling it anyway.
geniemist 4 months ago
@geniemist the mud soap and charcoal arugula are outrageous here
proudstr8 4 months ago
What do you mean about "the movie has plot holes" ?
I dont want to start a discussion, just want to know :3
Nice music!
GeneralAnimator 4 months ago
@GeneralAnimator i wouldnt call it plot holes. theres just a bunch of contradictory stuff. sometimes theres a lot of flash and intellectual stimulation for a society that looks down on it
proudstr8 4 months ago
This is so fucking Amazing !!!
iamtheonlyone47 4 months ago
EVERYONE! YOUR FAVORITE MARTIAN, 8 BIT WORLD!!!
bijoux126 4 months ago
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Yekblow 4 months ago
one of my favorite movie... not only for action scene, but they are really good.... also very nice music in this video...
G00fy7 4 months ago
Never mind found it in description
defomgstromg 5 months ago in playlist Epic
What's the original song's name O.o?
defomgstromg 5 months ago in playlist Epic
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING THIS!!!!!! CURRENTLY MAKING A SICK HIP HOP RMX OF THIS!
UPANDCOMINGGSI 5 months ago
Great ... Check out some of the music by my composer, Jon Brooks for my upcoming film 'Fears and Foes'.
ShakirulAlam 5 months ago
best film I have ever seen!
bruchrechner 5 months ago
no.... bad
megaMCsurvival 5 months ago
Nice video the movie was awesome :D it reminded me a lot to Orwell's 1984 but with a happy ending ...
xXE4GLEyEXx 5 months ago
the way the world will never be if i can help it
biohazard224 5 months ago
that movie so close to Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451....
Vilicus3 5 months ago
I will forever love this movie!Wanderful!
Rituccia 5 months ago
@iNNERFiREHardBase
"Equilibrium - Without Emotions" - a great movie
and this is an interesting video :)
dasten123 5 months ago
love the cello, this some diffeent kind of epic music wasn't very dramatic but awsome, bale is awesome epiic hot and very talented actor
lolzbleh 6 months ago
is a movie ?
virtualjp1 6 months ago
I love the movie because my class was reading this book called "A Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley and a lot of Equilibrium themes.
Thereisalwaysmore 6 months ago
2:00 Christian Bails
ImDino 6 months ago 23
This is awesome
LUXAETERNA6603 6 months ago in playlist God this Music is Epic
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i love this movie just an amazing actor christian Bale
albanian098 6 months ago
Equilibrium , what a nice word
thx btw.
MrTalaly 6 months ago
This film was an amazing piece of work. I wish netflix streaming had it x.x;
Leylaashley 6 months ago
the movie is like a new version of 1984 ... but it's amazingly good
OhKCBaby 6 months ago
This movie made me appreciate the sunsets and the sunrises....impressive movie with a very strong message
RoackerRomanMandru 6 months ago
i am the 1000th lover of this music
nccujz 6 months ago
wat movie is this?? it looks very interesting :]
xxfluffyxx215xx 7 months ago
@xxfluffyxx215xx The title says it all. I'd like to watch it too :3
evilcatpillow 6 months ago
@evilcatpillow oh pfft wow how did i miss that xD!!! thankies :D!
xxfluffyxx215xx 6 months ago
@xxfluffyxx215xx It does look like the sort of movie I'd enjoy. It has a unique presentation... might not have done well at the box office but it sure is interesting to watch.
evilcatpillow 6 months ago
@evilcatpillow yeah true, but i like the concept of it too haha i think ima rent it!
xxfluffyxx215xx 6 months ago
@xxfluffyxx215xx Watch it...just do it....seriously.....
nitroxide17 6 months ago
@nitroxide17 hahaha okie, ill rent it on netflix today!
xxfluffyxx215xx 6 months ago
whoaaaaaaaa okay, 0:20 that was basically in my dream last night in which behind the shot there was a river with large bridge/tunnels going across to where the people are. I was on my bike trying to catch up to some people. I swear I'm not deja vuing or source amnesing, I'm tearing up because I was actually there living that.
LIGHTRONIX 7 months ago
I loved the movie and the gun fighting style is very interesting
DracoDragu 7 months ago
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What a shitty music for one of the greatest movie ever -_-
P3RFECT1BLE 8 months ago
ONE OF THE MOST EPIC MOVIES EVER!
4763843 8 months ago
first off you made this movie look 100x better than it was but idk is worse not feeling or being forced to feel.
SC1337 8 months ago
try to pause around 2:33 or 2:34 and look next to his eye, you will see a yellow zit lol
duskedennis 8 months ago
@duskedennis
Did u actually watch the movie? Christian Bale had that thing(dunno if its a zit) next to his eye all the time. Btw, that dumb fallout quote is out dated
TurkishHegemony 7 months ago
@TurkishHegemony yeah ive seen the movie i just didn't notice it when i saw it.
duskedennis 7 months ago
hand vagina fail 1:55 lol
belugerine 8 months ago
thumbs up if the beginning of this song souns a lil bit like resident evil theme song
wacky207 8 months ago
That movie did have errors, but I still thought it was fantastic! One of the best! Thanks for posting this! Loved the music!
Missionmoench2 8 months ago
the thought of escape comes from one place inside your mind which allows you to dream far from reality and the reason for doing so is to be at equilibrium with matter,emotion,and life.to avoid criticism SAY NOTHING...DO NOTHING....BE NOTHING and so on so gone in a world without fear is fiction life without pain is fantasy.LOGIC IS NOT DEAD its hidden beneath reason there is a reason for every action we make..
brandonjames132 8 months ago
I just realized is this probably inspired by Farenheit 451.
Frozendragons 8 months ago
i like the montage! very good music choice, well done :)
zadak111 8 months ago
Good movie, good music, gold prozium.. world could be nice and easy
alienolnine 8 months ago
@ SkyAboveWater
Did u made this music? btw really enjoyed the upload!! Thanks
GamalJesus 9 months ago
This is a bit late. But this is quite a good video. The scenes are arranged and laid out to fit the music almost perfectly. I quite like it.
EriahSylverstone 9 months ago
I assure you, I am not watching a video, I am merely optimizing this comment for maximum typing practice efficiency.
ThatGamesGuy 9 months ago
Sean Bean Rules
Bonstrum 9 months ago
whats the name of the film again??
LaRs18851 9 months ago
The film kinda sucked. I liked the idea, but it would be impossible for a person to function without their emotions. Everything we do is influenced by emotion.
BangingMash 9 months ago
@BangingMash that's the shock value that isn't intended to be so. its kind of a paradox. thats a part of what makes the whole movie great. i think you should read the top rated comment and then think.
AarenCreed 9 months ago
@AarenCreed *ahem* again, let me say it....
It would be IMPOSSIBLE for A PERSON to function WITHOUT EMOTIONS.
kthnxbai.
BangingMash 9 months ago
@BangingMash *ahem* again, let me say it...
that's the SHOCK VALUE....it's a kind of PARADOX. If you would prefer smaller words than here it is. You notice that without emotions, the people in the movie have an UNHUMAN like feel. Hence the IMPOSSIBLE being completely intended.
kthnxbai.
AarenCreed 9 months ago
@AarenCreed No. It's not the shock value. it's the downfall of the movie. I'm not saying it was bad, I quite enjoyed some scenes, and the quotes Sean Bean's character said. And no, I didn't get the feel of the unhuman feeling, cos little things like a soldier saying "Cleric!" is still emotionally influenced. Nice try, but it didn't really work. Especially when Brandt gets dragged off saying that Preston is the betrayer. Doesn't work, sorry.
BangingMash 9 months ago
@BangingMash Due to the very nature of what they are trying to accomplish there are bound to be imperfections. I'm not saying the movie was fantastic, because it wasn't, but you are letting the sleights of the movie over-rule what the whole movie was about. That's sad.
AarenCreed 9 months ago
@AarenCreed It's not sad, its being critical, I'm sorry if I don't see the greatness that you see. That's my opinion, and I'm sure it's shared by others, just how others share your opinion. Lets leave it at that....
BangingMash 9 months ago
uhm what movie is this? it looks cool like I kinda want to see it but what is it called?
dudeson53 9 months ago
Equilibrium, just like the title without the part:"epic orchestra"
mary1pink 9 months ago
@mary1pink cool thanks
dudeson53 9 months ago
I saw this movie and Ioved it so much.The message is complex but the facts and the subject are so simple.the message is deep:"so close but yet so far from the people that we love and from the things that bring us happyness and peace in life-a way which do not solve anything ,because in the end all that matters is to feel,an ability that we received from our birth and which we can't cork up , to have a reason for living
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mary1pink 9 months ago
ITS... DAH BATMAN!!!!!
Lexincb 10 months ago
I somehow got this movie from Netflix on the exact date that we started a Chemistry unit on equilibrium
blarrghh 10 months ago
you should see watch?v=myf_d1D8kxU
dainlord 10 months ago
It took me years to realise just how deep this movie is. Studying philosophy and religion alike, I saw one thing: Sheer logic doesn't lead anyway, it's a tool. If you use it the right way, it's a great one, but if you believe it to be the way to follow - you are going nowhere. Only feelings can give purpose to anything. If they are destroyed, nothing remains. Literally nothing, no meaning, no reason for anything at all. A world of logic is DEAD.
GortosXtreme 10 months ago 67
@GortosXtreme Wow, I think that was one of the most interesting and soultouching things I've every read. It realy says exactly what I feel right now and describes the whole situation.
norodondt 10 months ago
@GortosXtreme There has to be a balance. We can certainly do without religion, for the sake of the survival of the species, though.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude We can do without religion. We can do without feelings as well as long as our "programming" keeps us alive, like computers. We can, for sure. But the first question is - is it logical? For that, we would have to know way more than we know today. And the second question: Do we want it?
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme ...you can have feelings without religion. T_T
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude That wasn't my point. My point was "why get rid of it without any real reason"?
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme Because religion is responsible for over 70% of wars in the history of mankind, and is responsible for MOST of the ignorance and arrogance surrounding our society.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude You are mistaken. Religion has never started a war nor has it encouraged ignorance - religion is just the belief in some higher being or layer of existance and the resulting respect and often worshipping. What you're talking about is (often religious) ideology used by few to manipulate many. Abusing religion as a tool. There is one thing that's important: We can't prove nor disprove god, we just don't understand the universe enoug. But for believers, religion is a good thing.
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme Alright, the people who follow religion started the wars, hence the reason it's a bad influence. Religion IS a tool for men who want power, and in more than one way, it's a primitive form of government. God is an unfalsifiable statement. Here's an example of another one: I have a T-Rex living in my back yard that cannot be seen, heard, or touched. Prove it isn't there. You can't? That's the ignorance that fuels theistic arrogance. Many facts we have point against God, not with him.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude There is no evidence for your Tyrannosaur within the system we are researching - whereas existance itself is a reason to believe in a higher being. I'm an agnostic, being convinced its existance can't be proven nor disproven, but the theists have a valuable point here. There is order and there is existance itself, there is life (which exists against the law of entropy). Arrogance is believing we have enough knowledge about the universe to make statements about its nature.
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme Existance is NOT, I repeat, NOT a reason to believe that some magic man in the clouds made it all. If that's the case, then my T-Rex has more evidence of existing than God! Theists have no valuable point at all. Saying existance itself proves their beliefs is as stupid as saying the fact my shoe is size 12 prove my T-Rex. I hope by your last sentence you realize you've just agreed with my on that part.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude Nonono, there is no magic man in the clouds nore a wizard nor a person at all (and I'm an agnostic, remember). But there is existance instead of non-existance, order instead of chaos and life, which defies the most fundamental law of nature ever discovered: Entropy (all order is converting to chaos). If we want to make assumptions about its nature, no scientific reasoning is sufficient. We can just not assume anything, or assume a higher being. More isn't possible to man (atm).
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme You're missing one very important part. Entropy is only beginning now and won't even start to create physical effects for another 10 to 20 billion years, if you're talking about on a Universal scale. Order emerges from chaos, that IS an observable fact.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude
Listen, through this nonsensical chatter, I emerged with one final and inevitable verdict. A final one, which is unable to be altered or changed through time or space or any other dimension of existence.
"We can't prove nor disprove god, we just don't understand the universe enough" -GortosXtreme
There are 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 particles in the universe that we can observe however we only know 1/500,000,000 , we as humans are ignorant.
mkfreak12345 9 months ago
@notessimodude All you say is right, yet, there is one missing layer: Things exist. there are unbreakable rules to their workings. And nobody has, ever, been able to explain that. I won't even start with quantum theory which makes the universe undetermined... Just note: You can say: "It's unexplainable", or you can say "There is something higher". A being, and we may or may not call it god. A manifestation of will, perhaps, something responsible. As an agnostic, I think that's reasonable as well
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme The theory of God is worth looking into, but all the evidence we've accumulated in the past centuries has almost completely disproven the Christian God.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@notessimodude The Bible is a great book, but its stupid parts (apocalypse, for instance) and centuries of relentless interpretation (invventing things like the trinity or virgin mary) have ruined much of its essence. People at that time weren't too good at understanding abstract ideas, you had to give them stories and examples, that's why the Bible is hard to understand. The Christian god isn't too different to our hypothetical god here, if not for the vatican :D
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@notessimodude A very simple and misguided statement. All evidence in science conclude that everything in the universe is interconnected. DNA even reveals that ALL life forms are varying expressions of one vast life force. Because all things in the Universe are composed of energy, and therefore connected, each thought you have has a direct effect on your physical reality. Food for thought.
xxevilgeniusxx 9 months ago
@xxevilgeniusxx If you want me to be specific; I believe it says God made people in his/her/its image. Each individual is a god by default. If reality disappoints, you can deconstruct it and make it how ever you see fit. Quantum Mechanics provides as good of proof as Gods existence as we should need, for now. Its just so complicated and easy to obfuscate that few theists or atheists or any for that matter know the truth about quantum mechanics.
xxevilgeniusxx 9 months ago
@xxevilgeniusxx The observer does not give reality to the entity, but rather the observer decides what aspect of the reality they wish to discern. Causality in this is hidden from human investigation; as observation and measurement create change them selves and force new choices and realities in the end.
xxevilgeniusxx 9 months ago
@xxevilgeniusxx I'm still starving if that was food for thought, lol. Just because the laws of physics state everything operates under one form of energy or sequence doesn't mean everything is interconnected, spiritually or physically. The thoughts affect the space around you so little because your brain waves aren't powerful at all. Physical change is made when you act upon a thought. Saying all lifeforms operate under one vast force is, sorry, a bit of an arrogant statement. We don't know yet.
notessimodude 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme I completely agree. The problem is that people use their feelings over logic far to often. Logic can be applied to nearly (as my disclaimer :P) any situation and find the right outcome. When people follow only their feelings, the outcome is dependent on luck. A proper balance must be attained. Feelings are used as a starting point. You start with how you feel, and then use logic to justify those feelings. Any feeling that can't be justified with logic should be discarded.
Clowd009 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme And to slightly modify what I said, logic absolutely must be derived from a set of concrete morals. Morals must be absolute and timeless. A moral that applies now will apply 50 years from now. Relative morals are like trying to set two inaccurate clocks off of each other - it doesn't work.
Clowd009 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme Well said, too bad your argument was logically and reasonably put together.
jimmyt3411 9 months ago
@jimmyt3411 Logic and reasoning are great and I do love using them. They are just nothing that makes life worth living, they are tools you can use whenever neccessary.
GortosXtreme 9 months ago
@GortosXtreme A world of logic is reality.
PokeYourMum 8 months ago
@PokeYourMum Reality is indeductable.
GortosXtreme 8 months ago
@PokeYourMum
Take some drugs and then tell me what is reality.
Tartaros666GR 8 months ago
@Tartaros666GR Lol @ drugs, I don't need to know what pitfall you fell in,
PokeYourMum 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme -- You are right, but a world without logic is madness. It is somewhat akin to the Japanese saying that "Vision without action is a daydream, and action without vision is a nightmare."
OneWingedShark 8 months ago
@OneWingedShark a vision without action is a dream that has yet to accomplished and a action without a vision is blindness. A world without logic is lost.you have a brilliant mind simply because of your response that tells a lot that you are awake while the rest is fast asleep i am a mere person that simply wishes for a better economy a stronger nation peaceful world will not be earth and the reason for that remark is we are humans and our minds have no boundaries no limits only law limits
brandonjames132 8 months ago
@OneWingedShark As I said, great tool. But not a reason to act.
GortosXtreme 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme dude ur words tached me...ur great man (sorry for my english)
driveras44 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme I center myself around Philosophy, and I'm going to put it out there, in my words
"If I cared too, I could compare everyones personal view, and perspective to every act of war, murder, rape and viloence ...You can give me all the reasons in the world, but it still won't make it right." ~Benjamin Thomas
supah1337B 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme dont mind this guy folks hes just fulla shit
desambio 8 months ago
@desambio I think he's right. I would only add that we have to learn how to use both. Our best bet is to balance them as well as we can and hope we can live with any mistakes we make along the way.
Carterjl2 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme do you even realize what you just said. god i wish i could just tell you and those other 34 people how stupid you are
jimbeen1771 8 months ago
@jimbeen1771 I'm always glad to read an educated and reasonable point concerning my opinions... Especially if the author makes clear why he considers my statement wrong :)
GortosXtreme 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme "A world of logic is dead" thats when i realize i shouldnt even try
jimbeen1771 8 months ago
@jimbeen1771 Something gives me the impression you are just here for conflict, so I guess it is unneccessary to further explain my satement. Please note: I did not say logic isn't useful.
GortosXtreme 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme That sounds very inspiring a topic for a fiction novel based on life where civilization is drained of feeling and is left with just robotic, mechanical, systematic logic. And combined with this music.....thanks for the idea hahaha
shamrin705 8 months ago
@GortosXtreme Absolutely. We can journey down a lot of undesirable paths by trying to rationalize every single and event in the world.
TheGeekyNinjaStudios 7 months ago
@GortosXtreme This argument is logical. Thus Logic leads us to the conclusion that emotions are to be valued and not to be suppressed.
charlieapeshit 7 months ago
@charlieapeshit Therefore, it's a great tool!
GortosXtreme 7 months ago
der film wahr erste sahne und dieser clip is es ebenso
MainStreamsouth 10 months ago
the music doesn't match up with the video and its stupid with those bells
CedricKristian 11 months ago
@CedricKristian ...listen to the violen, the cello, the Echo, the Vibe, the will...the loss
Classicjarheads 11 months ago
I haven't seen this movie, but it kinda reminds me of a modern version of Orwell's 1984
Ieatsoyabeans 11 months ago
What movie is this music video from?
gymnasticsislife2010 11 months ago
its the daily life of many people its sad isn't it, we all hope that we could turn the world into a better place but you cant, we cant because some people only wants to live in a fantasy world and control other people with power, and as long there are humans there will be war, and as long there is war this will be the life many people will live. because war.. war never changes.
duskedennis 11 months ago 22
@duskedennis fallout 3's a great game man.
mythicrose89 9 months ago
@mythicrose89 indeed it is. e great example of how the world may end up like if we keep fighting each other
duskedennis 9 months ago
@duskedennis you do realise your talking out your ass you self important tool.
arwing20 8 months ago
@duskedennis Fallouts a great game isn't it
sheet4u 8 months ago
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Highbudget 8 months ago
@Highbudget the only thing i used from fallout was "because war... war never changes" and this is not where i got a line from some game its about the meaning of my comment, but people like only like to ruin the moment of hope. you like to ruin it because you didn't come up with a good comment like mine.
duskedennis 8 months ago
@duskedennis Yeah sorry about that
Highbudget 8 months ago
@duskedennis lol nice fallout quote
xAirwave182 8 months ago
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@duskedennis i WILL change the world. you may never know my name, see my face or even read my words again- but i WILL CHANGE THE WORLD.
somethingclever2007 6 months ago
Where it is possible to download the given track
swt109 11 months ago
OMG iz batman :O
ZachFZ 1 year ago
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ZachFZ 1 year ago
@SkyAboveWater
this movie whole storline is based off of action.
the movie is about people trying to get rid of Emotion but that could never happen so Bale desided to stop this and from then all he killed all those who stand against emotion.
Terminal331 1 year ago
opening is like ff7 the turks theme!
keenmachine80 1 year ago
@Talldumbdork95 cant be compared
SpazmaticAttack 1 year ago
@Talldumbdork95 but keenu reeves just looks too cool, lols both are awesome in my opinion
abu1125 1 year ago
The movie ended where it started. War waged before, it waged after. The supression of emotion was just a time of true peace, at the cost of your soul, Don't gain the world & loose your soul~
Classicjarheads 1 year ago
@Classicjarheads Nicly said :)
jonskislo1 1 year ago
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Classicjarheads 1 year ago
Where did you get the video for this??? I'm writing a book and one of my characters looks exactly like him. I would love to use this in my video.
iheartTAPS 1 year ago
@Talldumbdork95
that's right !!!!
publicterror 1 year ago
@Talldumbdork95 Yeah, but Keanu... knows kung-fu.
Conmon1 1 year ago 2
@Conmon1 That made me laugh. LOL
Klespyrio 1 year ago
@Talldumbdork95 That's funny both don't ever really appear to be acting at all. They just say their lines. The reason Bale was so perfect for this role is because of his ability to not act what so ever. It's a great movie thanks to Bale having no emotion which is key in this film.
vertexclimber 1 year ago
@vertexclimber Watch "The Fighter".
coolaccountname 1 year ago
damn... christian bale needs a bottle of clear eyes...
Mogred 1 year ago