lol, I tried over clocking with AI suite and had the same problem, It works fine with small increments at a time, Beware of its ram overclocking, some Asus board have limited multiplier's and the auto setting will stay at the SPD even after you change the timings. You think your running at 800 on auto but some 800's SPD's are 540. A stable O.C. nearly always come's down to ram.
I'm using the Q6600 right now overclocked to 3.94GHz with a Zalman 9700NT cooler, it's still an exceptionally fast CPU for LGA775 flat forms. Later on I will be upgrading to a QX9770.
@CaptianObviousIII Why the hell would you upgrade to another quad core? Because of the platform? You shouldn't , if you game go for a better GPU instead.
@Rzrjo I play a lot of old games from ID software, so I would be throwing my money away to be getting hardware like that. I seen a good deal on the QX9770 not too long ago for a used one, it's about $299.00, so I better think fast. :D
@CaptianObviousIII what motherboard are you using? I've read that most people couldn't get past 3.4ghz on the q6600. Also you have a really good chip if you're getting 3.94.
Q6600 is still a great cpu. Stock speeds 2.4ghz are getting a little too slow, but OCing it to 2.8-3.2ghz (on air) will run (or beat) the some of best 775 cpu's.
I'm, thinking of upgrading my processor but don't know what one to go for, I'm using a NVIDIA n-Force 750 motherboard so it’s socket LGA775 processor I’m looking for. I was considering the Q6600 but I’m not sure is it is really future proof in games. Any suggestions?
Make sure you check that your motherboard is comaptible with quad core as most of them have a higher TDP usually (95W/105W) than core 2 duo (65W) except for the QXXXXs processors. I'm upgrading and thinking of getting an AMD phenom ii x4 955. Only €125 (w/o shipping) on ebay and mobo for around €40 (w/o shipping)
@masterasia11 You're just a nerdy fag who wants to listen to Albert having orgasms over overclocked PC's. Bauer on the other hand takes a more friendly, laid back, and generally less homosexual approach to tech reports. Your pathetic, nerdy little pea-brain wouldnt be able to comprehend Bauer's awesome sense of humour. FUCK OFF.
thats a the nerdyest thing iv ever heard its like saying my dicks bigger than your but in this case its my friends computer is bigger than yours! wow lmafo
Haha I really like this video, especially with the British accent immitation. That was FUNNY xD I don't know weather British people will be offended or what.
Anyways, I have a question. I have a Q6600 on an ASUS P5Q Deluxe Motherboard. Should I upgrade to a Q9550 or something?
it has the parts of a beast gaming rig..... for 2007, i guess its fine, those parts wer once the kings u no.... but they are aging, overclocking can extend the months ull be able to game on it, if u upgrade to windows 7 and get a new graphics card ur good to go
Actually, the answer to the first question is NO. using that USB thinguie works for movies, but there is a small lag (aprox. 0.35 Ms) between the sending of the signal and the visual representation on screen, making playing games nearly impossible.
Nope. even at low at 1024x768, as soon as you even put 2XAA it'll go slow. With the 2600XT, No AA, No AF (better FPS). 1280x1024. Texture High/Gamer Shaders Medium Physics Medium Effects Medium Shadows Medium Water High Motion Blur Medium Objects Medium Volumetric Medium Post Processing Low (a little extra FPS, put on if you REALLY want to) Particles Low/Medium Sound Medium/High
I dislike how the new hosts i.e. bauer and albert...aren't as nice as logan was when you e-mail them. I honestly still e-mail logan my questions I have about videos I watch with albert and Bauer.
e 8400 is better for gaming, core 2 quads such as the q6600 are more for video encoding etc. They arent clocked as high and most games dont utulize all four cores, still nice too have thoguh for later on.
actually he is right but i have enough knowledge of computers to make the game use all 4 cores and that why i baught a core 2 quad oc'd to 3.10 GHz. its runnin like a champ!
the reason why the Q6600 is slower at games even at the same clock as the e8400 is because each core in the E8400 has 3MB. in the Q6600, since the cache is devided between four cores, it has only 2MB cahce in the core, which is why the only games the 6600 can beat the E8400 have to multicored
45nm C2D has a new architecture (Penryn) which beats 65nm clock-for-clock anyway. Cache is not divided between cores but shared by the two cores on the same die. Q6600 is essentially two E6600 each with 4MB of cache each in one package connected via the FSB
Hey i want a good processor for my gaming rig but i dno which one to chose. one is the Q6600 and the other one is the E8500 3.12 GHz and 1333 fsb, please help with which one is better and which one of them wouldnt bottleneck my GPU ( HD 4870)
I would go with the Q6600 because since its a quad core its more future-proof because more and more games are being written to take advantage of quad cores
probably install windows vista 64 bit, cause if you install more than 4GB of ram, then the 64bit will recognize all 4 GB of ram. The 32bit will NOT see all 4GB of ram.
I,m selling my quad 9650 for only $220 if anybody is interested (1333 FSB 3.0g 12MB) I bought it for over $800.00 anybody can check the specs and the price on it if they think i,m lying.
Fuck I miss this kind of Logan.
RcKis0 1 month ago
BRING LOGAN BACK!
murder00redrum 4 months ago in playlist murder00redrum's favorites
@murder00redrum @radmanace He is back.
jackgalloway256 2 months ago
man! We need this guy back bad!
radmanace 5 months ago
Wow, the Q6600 is now 3 years old? Holy crap! My best PC runs that CPU! Guess I'd better upgrade to the i7!
talldude123 5 months ago
@talldude123 im running a q8200 with trifire hd5870 so...
wait for ivy bridge on april!
gonzalobuen 1 month ago
@gonzalobuen Core i7 2600k runs so fast and the price is dropping really quick
talldude123 1 month ago
Q6600 G0 just rules...i have had it on my old computer and it was an overclocking monster compared to the Q9300....
GarretJordan 7 months ago
LOGAN IS BACK :D
Ankstek013 8 months ago
To whom may I write at TigerDirect re: closed-captioned videos?
VerbatimIT2020 10 months ago
haha nice british accent
demon6937 11 months ago
doesnt tigerdirecttc get that we unsubscribe because Logan is gone?
rossapher24 1 year ago
lol, I tried over clocking with AI suite and had the same problem, It works fine with small increments at a time, Beware of its ram overclocking, some Asus board have limited multiplier's and the auto setting will stay at the SPD even after you change the timings. You think your running at 800 on auto but some 800's SPD's are 540. A stable O.C. nearly always come's down to ram.
Php48 1 year ago
i still have the q6600 oc to 3.2 for more than 2 years,with a p5q pro with 4 gb ram and a 5870,the best system for games,cheap too
ndragos87 1 year ago
i have a q9300. either the thermal sensors are bad or my processor runs too hot.
jcat44444 1 year ago
@jcat44444ore u termal paste dried out :O
using192 1 year ago
I'll slap you in the face with a fish XD
filippo333 1 year ago
Logan is halerious, he the BEST ever! ^^
Meisamyt 1 year ago
He said E8400. Why is this written Q9300?
Artas1984 1 year ago
I'm using the Q6600 right now overclocked to 3.94GHz with a Zalman 9700NT cooler, it's still an exceptionally fast CPU for LGA775 flat forms. Later on I will be upgrading to a QX9770.
CaptianObviousIII 1 year ago
@CaptianObviousIII Why the hell would you upgrade to another quad core? Because of the platform? You shouldn't , if you game go for a better GPU instead.
Rzrjo 1 year ago
@Rzrjo It's cool. I really do have a good GPU on the way here in the next few days - EVGA GeForce GTX 465.
CaptianObviousIII 1 year ago
@CaptianObviousIII 299.99? Don't buy it, just put the that extra cash to get a GTX480 Lightning from MSi.
Rzrjo 1 year ago
@CaptianObviousIII That's ok but seriously why not say no to the QX9770 and buy a GTX480 or 5870 with the money you save.
Rzrjo 1 year ago
@Rzrjo I play a lot of old games from ID software, so I would be throwing my money away to be getting hardware like that. I seen a good deal on the QX9770 not too long ago for a used one, it's about $299.00, so I better think fast. :D
CaptianObviousIII 1 year ago
What motherboard is it?
Artas1984 1 year ago
@CaptianObviousIII what motherboard are you using? I've read that most people couldn't get past 3.4ghz on the q6600. Also you have a really good chip if you're getting 3.94.
hockeyhatesgooglnow 1 year ago
That was the best English accent I've ever heard. I miss you Logan!
ihagtafuith 1 year ago
Q6600 is still a great cpu. Stock speeds 2.4ghz are getting a little too slow, but OCing it to 2.8-3.2ghz (on air) will run (or beat) the some of best 775 cpu's.
AetiusPraetorian 1 year ago
I dare you to get one of those OEM OS's from a big retail store... They'll slap you in the face with a FISH!
TheMrVogue 1 year ago
Indeed
bg048 1 year ago
wow you sound like captain picard
darkstarfear 1 year ago
I'm, thinking of upgrading my processor but don't know what one to go for, I'm using a NVIDIA n-Force 750 motherboard so it’s socket LGA775 processor I’m looking for. I was considering the Q6600 but I’m not sure is it is really future proof in games. Any suggestions?
KeyToTime 1 year ago
@KeyToTime
Make sure you check that your motherboard is comaptible with quad core as most of them have a higher TDP usually (95W/105W) than core 2 duo (65W) except for the QXXXXs processors. I'm upgrading and thinking of getting an AMD phenom ii x4 955. Only €125 (w/o shipping) on ebay and mobo for around €40 (w/o shipping)
FunkyMonkMan 1 year ago
@KeyToTime any of the 9300's and above will do you much good, as long as you are over clocking it.
TheMrVogue 1 year ago
@KeyToTime the q6600 has got about 5 years left in it am still useing on at 3.2 ghts
fatboyuk3 1 year ago
LOL
mybdayisoct1 2 years ago
Logan's girlfriend's so damn hot!
StatusQuo209 2 years ago
nice British accent:P
trinitigertrini 2 years ago 2
great guy :DDDDDD
asata110 2 years ago 5
I miss Logan doing all the reviews. Albert is cool, but Bauer kinda sucks.
masterasia11 2 years ago 45
@masterasia11 You're just a nerdy fag who wants to listen to Albert having orgasms over overclocked PC's. Bauer on the other hand takes a more friendly, laid back, and generally less homosexual approach to tech reports. Your pathetic, nerdy little pea-brain wouldnt be able to comprehend Bauer's awesome sense of humour. FUCK OFF.
rabadooda 1 year ago
@masterasia11 where is he now? what happened
McMIxTER 1 year ago
This guy is halerious!! #pull your pants up?! ahahhaha
mc68575621 2 years ago 29
logan!!!!
backsider578 2 years ago 2
logans intros are the best!
TheGhid 2 years ago
omg andrew kramer ripoff!!!
JaksProductions 2 years ago
intel i7 940
Geforce 295gtx+ X2
Windows 7
8GB DDR3 ram
Now that's future proof
pezimaxie 2 years ago
lol ya but i know a guy with a rig twice as powerfull as urs tho
krauser979 2 years ago
@krauser979
thats a the nerdyest thing iv ever heard its like saying my dicks bigger than your but in this case its my friends computer is bigger than yours! wow lmafo
jesserobins 2 years ago
ok first of all learn how to speak english and second of all mind your own buisness
krauser979 2 years ago
@krauser979
naw man because you pulled a really homo thing
jesserobins 2 years ago
ur homo for thinking of somthing homo so go fuck ur self
krauser979 2 years ago
@pezimaxie nedded more ram i have 24gb
fatboyuk3 1 year ago
Haha I really like this video, especially with the British accent immitation. That was FUNNY xD I don't know weather British people will be offended or what.
Anyways, I have a question. I have a Q6600 on an ASUS P5Q Deluxe Motherboard. Should I upgrade to a Q9550 or something?
judenihal 2 years ago
why shouldn't you u can overclock the Q9550 to like almost 4.0
sushiboy805 2 years ago
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 * (2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache) * Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium * 4GB Memory * 750GB Hard Drive
ati 3870 x2
dell xps 420
is this spec future proof any1???
progameruk1 2 years ago
overclock it and you're set to go..
thore022 2 years ago
ya ur good for like 3-4 years b4 you need to upgrade
krauser979 2 years ago
never buy much, yes it is future proof, but nothing is future proof if you speak technically
Tudorgeable 2 years ago
it has the parts of a beast gaming rig..... for 2007, i guess its fine, those parts wer once the kings u no.... but they are aging, overclocking can extend the months ull be able to game on it, if u upgrade to windows 7 and get a new graphics card ur good to go
neonzion7 2 years ago
can i overcock Q6600 2.4 to 3.0 with a stoock cooler without problem??
andre5075 2 years ago
Surely... No problem till 3.0 but beyond that u may need a good cpu cooler.. V8 or something.. But till 3 ghz stock cooler is fine..
rocky7891 2 years ago
yes you can, i am at 3.0 ghz on stock
hornymanonfire 2 years ago
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I really hate the forced humor of these salesmen....
Laevi1337 2 years ago
he's the funnyest guy ever done reviews and every one execpt you love logan!!!
krille757 2 years ago
Actually, the answer to the first question is NO. using that USB thinguie works for movies, but there is a small lag (aprox. 0.35 Ms) between the sending of the signal and the visual representation on screen, making playing games nearly impossible.
LitemyDay 2 years ago 2
Lol the best part when he started XD acted like some news guy orginaizing those papers XD
Nimerbushnaq 2 years ago
Hey guys just wanted to know how this system rates -
1.Processor - Intel Quad Core Q9550
2.MoBo-Zotac 780I SLI
3.Graphics-Palit Gtx 260 SP216
4.RAM-Corsair XMS2 4GB
5.Chassis-CM 690
Will this system work at good frame rates for demanding games and will it be sort of future proof ? thanks
shantanu1320 2 years ago 2
yup!
though what res do you play at?
you'll be good at 1680x1050 and 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 (lower quality in games or lower AA or AF)
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
haha i have a 17" monitor i think with 1280x1024 ill be able to hit up my aa and vsync with the card too !
shantanu1320 2 years ago
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
wow... cause my old 9500gt 1 gb plays games like undercover with even 4x aa no problems!
thanks for the help though :)
made a difference in my choice !
shantanu1320 2 years ago
I dislike how the new hosts i.e. bauer and albert...aren't as nice as logan was when you e-mail them. I honestly still e-mail logan my questions I have about videos I watch with albert and Bauer.
icecoldwolf 2 years ago
I'm getting 1000000 revs out of my ford focus, why has the engine blown up?
ok so a Q6600 isnt a ford focus but what do you expect if u overclock a full 1Ghz without adequate cooling?
tuleo554 2 years ago
he sounds like mr bean when he talks bristish lol
qbthething 2 years ago
0:05
violaxetos 2 years ago
darn...
I can't unsee/un-laugh it.
ecchibanzaii 2 years ago
is this man mad?
violaxetos 2 years ago
love albert but logan is more funy
nas6mm 2 years ago 2
He was fired after Systemax aquired COMPUSA in 08
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
omg...my name is harold and im from norway!
jfunnyshit5 2 years ago
KKKKKKK very funny!!!!!
DJDopeB 2 years ago
Haha that accent rocks!
NOXXism 2 years ago
I miss logan.
erik1994dom1994 2 years ago
lol i love that british accent
SimsCreedGuy 2 years ago
scar symmetry epic!
fagnasty666 2 years ago
BRING BACK LOGAN PLEASE!!~!! IAM BEGGING YOU, i really like albert, maybe they could do it together? or take it in turns
suckmynose000 2 years ago 4
Logan , You rocks !!!
LOL
PekRaimund 2 years ago 3
I have the Q9400 and it pwns
xXxmidgexXx 2 years ago
Nice processer pva.
v0nndutch 2 years ago
hello can you help pleas
i have a Q8200 and when i overclock it the FPS gets crappyer in my games what could be the problem? i ws thinking the motherboard but am not sure
pwb
pva123pva123 2 years ago
up some of ur voltages. my q6600 did the same till i raised up some of the voltages, it wasnt running where it cud be.
calebbridwell 2 years ago
1:52 very funny. Logan Rocks!
juan310194 2 years ago
that British acsent is just epic.
Mcspazatron1 2 years ago 4
LOL!!!!!
kabi03 2 years ago
i from uk and this guy is fukin funny
TiccTaCz 2 years ago
i am from "brittain" haha this guy is a dude, hilariouse
azraaell 2 years ago
I miss Logan, what happened to him? seriously?
Johny40Se7en 2 years ago
HE QUIT
Watchme12311 2 years ago
razetheworld
UndeadGunz 2 years ago 2
Logan, I'm from England, you claim everyone hates you, I don't... XD
but if you try stab me, I'll stab you with my GPU :P
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
logan cracks me up
also, i KNEW i heard scar symmetry. great song too, pitch black progress will always be my favorite album by them
GettingPissedMan 2 years ago
Гавно с гавняным ведущим.
Mr5700black 2 years ago
the q9300 is best
danskeren1111 2 years ago
rofl Logan is so funny ^^
Magina33 2 years ago
Damn, I miss Logan. I remember 2 years ago when I thought the 8800ultra was awesome, and now I want a 4890. Ahh..... 2 years ago.
thevideoguy666 2 years ago
Sherlock it seems the culprit has escaped
dubmywub 2 years ago
6:50+ Scar Symmetry music is playing! XD!
Logan knows music, damn.
-Dinumas
Dinumas 2 years ago 2
R.I.P Logan.
SethMcFartlane 2 years ago
WTF?!?
Magina33 2 years ago
He died in a car accident last week.
SethMcFartlane 2 years ago
lol?! who the hell told you this shit?
Magina33 2 years ago
He used to live near me.
SethMcFartlane 2 years ago
that's sad =(
Magina33 2 years ago
wtf- Logan Died?????
illmagnified 2 years ago
no, he quit that job coz he found a better one
kidowner 2 years ago
O thats what i thought, but people were telling me he died, i was like wtf?
illmagnified 2 years ago
naaa.. those dont know what they are talking about.
kidowner 2 years ago
please reply, whats his other job?
suckmynose000 2 years ago
well i dont know, i heard he is in a site razer world i beleive
kidowner 2 years ago
haha dark tranquillity, hours past in exile at the beginning :P
brigzilla 2 years ago
He has good taste in music. ;)
-Dinumas
Dinumas 2 years ago
actually screamo is catchy because of the deep voice, i like everything mixed :)
judenihal 2 years ago
is logan wrong? i'm sure that oem OS's only work on 1 motherboard?
woollerland 2 years ago
That's what I thought too.
-Dinumas
Dinumas 2 years ago
i love my Q9300.
NavyAviation2016 2 years ago
im from Britain and he's cool. . i thinks. . dont stabe me please
TheCraignessTheGreat 2 years ago 3
i love Logan and his things
pr0surf3r 2 years ago 5
fuck this guy is good. He's like been there done that
THuGZZTA 2 years ago
Now, there's only fat albert.
ReKrait 2 years ago 4
e 8400 is better for gaming, core 2 quads such as the q6600 are more for video encoding etc. They arent clocked as high and most games dont utulize all four cores, still nice too have thoguh for later on.
rideflinetk 2 years ago
actually he is right but i have enough knowledge of computers to make the game use all 4 cores and that why i baught a core 2 quad oc'd to 3.10 GHz. its runnin like a champ!
kovalcik17 2 years ago
Sure, try playing gta iv on a dual core, I guarantee it will run crap on anything less than 3 cores. Quad is the way to go.
SnoVVdog 2 years ago
New games support 4 cores. So dual cores are going down.
Siim71 2 years ago 2
the reason why the Q6600 is slower at games even at the same clock as the e8400 is because each core in the E8400 has 3MB. in the Q6600, since the cache is devided between four cores, it has only 2MB cahce in the core, which is why the only games the 6600 can beat the E8400 have to multicored
vicskyline9 2 years ago
45nm C2D has a new architecture (Penryn) which beats 65nm clock-for-clock anyway. Cache is not divided between cores but shared by the two cores on the same die. Q6600 is essentially two E6600 each with 4MB of cache each in one package connected via the FSB
Laforeta 2 years ago 4
Nice, you have done your homework. Well stated, sir ; )
JetpackSniper08 2 years ago 2
If SSE4.1 is not required, Q9xxx beats Q6xxx by ~1 - 2% due to higher fsb (333 vs 266).
kniaugaudiskis 2 years ago
Don't the Q9xxxx's have more cache too?
mikitymike 2 years ago
no, only the Q9550 + have more cache than q6600
woollerland 2 years ago
Hmm Or Try the New AMD Phenom 2 :)
MasterDOOM2010 2 years ago
this guy makes me happy
NOT IN THAT WAY!!!!
lol
burberrybedroom 2 years ago 2
I think he is to goofy,is wy hes not around anymore.
Bu I like him goofy!
it makes it worth watching!
I can get all the Boring Serious people I want all day!
I Agree! COME BACK LOGAN!
Xigmatek 2 years ago 2
COME BACK TO TIGERtv LOGAN...ne ways nice vid...iv been looking at the E8400 cas of the high clock...still dont know which one to get
bmbbmx 2 years ago 2
my q6600 runs at 3.6GHz nice and cool
nutzy73 2 years ago 2
I overclocked my pc from 2.6 ghz to 2.62 and then it showed me error something with my sata 2
I set back to 2.6 lool
and that suxxx
bmxismylife123 2 years ago
Q6600 is better if you overclock it! if not, q9300.
samuelravelo 2 years ago 2
Q6600 2.40GHz/8M/1066
Q9300 2.50GHz/6M/1333
more L2 Cache or more clocks speed and FSB?
essenpeppone1509 2 years ago
which one i should chose the q9300 or the q6600? or should i wait 5mouths to get an i7?
tiagom135 2 years ago
the problem from the angry britt is also my problem but i have the q6600 and if it boots the 2nd time it resets the bios in my case
uut0 2 years ago
Love your aggressive british accent
philerskine 2 years ago 5
Hey i want a good processor for my gaming rig but i dno which one to chose. one is the Q6600 and the other one is the E8500 3.12 GHz and 1333 fsb, please help with which one is better and which one of them wouldnt bottleneck my GPU ( HD 4870)
iOWNu1111 2 years ago
I would go with the Q6600 because since its a quad core its more future-proof because more and more games are being written to take advantage of quad cores
guitarguy8484 2 years ago
okk thanks dude, the Q6600 must cost around 150-180 right??
iOWNu1111 2 years ago
ya know what just ignore my previous comment. I would just go with the Q6600 because it will overclock better because of the bigger L2 cache
guitarguy8484 2 years ago
Depends on what games you play. The E8500 will be better except for in games like FSX, Crysis and Supreme Commander.
FortunexenutroF 2 years ago
you have just answered a question i didint ask, processor for FSX
ID0MiN4T0RI 2 years ago
can i overclock it with facotry settings and cooling or do i need to get somthing diffrent?
hallal55 2 years ago
I would suggest buy a better fan then the factory set one.
jjtheclown 2 years ago
ahh when i go to my bios i cant click on the advanced cpus its grey...is there any other method of overclockig other than bios
hallal55 2 years ago
yay logan come back ;(
yasmas1 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAH its clouding his mind
kovalcik17 2 years ago
lmao at 3:48 check it out!
csoriented 3 years ago
Why it die and but up again? LMAO
InfernalStigma7 3 years ago
madbritishguy your mobo dies because of voltage problems, tweak your voltage + account for vdroop
tsarvadim 3 years ago
yes it is..downlaod xfire and add me to your friends so we can talk--my xfire name is reptile7dv
Eagle0watch 3 years ago
lol i can't watch logans vids whiles i'm drinking a cuppa tea' i just can't LMAO
tazz24uk 3 years ago
LOL @ 7:11 the songs Scar Symmetry The Illusionist sickk
murder00redrum 3 years ago
what windows vista should i install for q6600 32 bit 64 bit 86 ,i have no idea :P
kostadin5555 3 years ago
probably install windows vista 64 bit, cause if you install more than 4GB of ram, then the 64bit will recognize all 4 GB of ram. The 32bit will NOT see all 4GB of ram.
CStrikerBooie 3 years ago
Yeah, 32bit only sees ~3.1GB, it will be there, just won't be used.
iNfx1 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I,m selling my quad 9650 for only $220 if anybody is interested (1333 FSB 3.0g 12MB) I bought it for over $800.00 anybody can check the specs and the price on it if they think i,m lying.
Eagle0watch 3 years ago
does the q9300 bottlenecks the gtx 285? i have a e6300 and swrewin up my gtx 285...so im planning to get q9300
caretaker 3 years ago
logan quited is no more in the computer tv T_T so sad
Magina33 3 years ago