Georgia stuck in the middle of geo politics

[Metal404Head]

For someone with the name "propaganda buster" you sure do pump out a lot of your own.

[TskhinvaliRegion]

Russian invasion of Georgia is not acceptable for anyone. Russia used massive propaganda to justify its actions. Russians bombed Georgian towns and crossed internationally recognized borders. Georgia didn't start this war. Russians brought war to them.

[ArtemicionMoogle]

I wish that cold war bullshit would be buried in the past, but it seems that the US is better off with Russia as one of the enemies.

Well, we did not start the cold war, so its not up to us to end it...

[ArtemicionMoogle]

...Only to apologize at the end of the day. Now most of the Western countries admit that Russia had all rights to intervene, but did it too harshly. Well, thank you kind sirs =)

And the information about looting or devastated cities is heavily exagerrated, im afraid. Compared to what is left of Tskhinval, Georgian cities were barely touched by the conflict...

[ArtemicionMoogle]

But you gotta love the bitterness and quickness with which both Western media and officials began to spew hate towards big mean "commie" Russia? and to defend those poor things georgians.

[ArtemicionMoogle]

I always wondered, do the US really need two Georgias? =)

[limaalpha1]

you are a joker

[NESHero]

dude! You speak sense.

I had  to subscribe

[PropagandaBuster]

Thank you.

[Hogo69]

LoL, your funny dude... you seem like an old jewish dude from new york :P. You had some good points though too :).

[PropagandaBuster]

correction: Old Italian dude from New York.

[schetin]

PB,

Police, Emergency, Ambulance are international words and are widely used on vehicles

[qochiashvili83]

you're right my friend. Even Traffic Sign "Stop" is used in Georgia as well, it doesn't mean it's from America. Good guy though. :)

[schetin]

wildbestia,

1. A company of Chechens were among the first to come and help Ossetins defend their city. Ossetin monks are thanking Chechens for having saved their monastery from Georgians. That Moslems should have saved Christians from Christians, this is something...

2. KGB's the State Security Committee; it is not only spies, it's the intellectual elite of the SU. Spies are CIA. As the Prime Minister Putin has a lot of other things to do. Medvedev is the Supreme Commander-in-Chief now.

[schetin]

acabramzach, what's your combat ships gonna do in the Black sea together with Poles and Americans: Liberate Georgians of defend Democracy?

[forstorage]

watch?v=ZFcaNM2J3VE

Propagandabuster, care to make a comment on this?

[PropagandaBuster]

That video reminds me of the type of news during the Vietnam War. Television crews aired pro-Vietnam War views expressed by long-shore men in Brooklyn who spoke with "dems and does." Then aired anti-Vietnam War views from college students. The intent was to make the American people think illiterates support the war, the educated against the war. The news media is bias and had to locate one 12 year old girl in defense of the KGB incursion into Georgia. Same propaganda, different war.

[forstorage]

but this little girl is an actual witness of the war. This is different than the college students . The college/illiterate presents their "opinions", but this little girl states the "facts" she's been witnessed.

[PropagandaBuster]

Where not any 12 year old girls witness to the Georgian side of the war?

[forstorage]

this 12yo happen to be a naturalized american and able to speak fluent English, which is a rare case.

[PropagandaBuster]

So by the nature of her naturalization that makes her creditable? Is that not rather condescending? Are you aware the President of Georgia speaks fluent English? There are many Georgians who are fluent in English. Why would not any of their testimony be just as creditable as that "naturalized American" girl of 12?

[forstorage]

what you said is true. Her nationality has nothing to do per se with her credibility. But her being an american is part of the reason why fox chose her to be on in the first place. The host assume her opinion would corroberate theirs and didn't expect she would be pro-russia whatsoever, judging from his reactions. And this unscripted, unselected voice is most valuable in today's news media. So I would take her words seriously.

[PropagandaBuster]

Forstorage: Please understand I do not doubt the 12 year olds description of the events. However it is curious how none from the Georgian side was offered.

[schetin]

Ask them Georgians... Forget about the girl - it's not about her. It's about how that man behaves. The girl just said something they didn't want to hear, so what... But the reaction is... err... I would say, predictable...

[forstorage]

I am curious too. Isn't fox a relatively "righter" media? I thought their presumed opinions would be for Georgians. Then why pick this girl?

[schetin]

lol, there was an interview on Russian TV with the girl and her mother. They tried quite a few times to tell the truth but they just cut it off from shows. Now, they agreed to participate this time only because they new it was live. And they kept it secret till the right time.

Anyway, there aren't too many Ossetian kids living in America who were in Ossetia that very time.

[schetin]

Your "relatively righter", in our terms sounds like "pro-fascist". Saakashvili calls his army 'vermaht'. Georgians intruded Tskhinvali with cries 'Heil Saakashvili'

[forstorage]

Any unprovoked intrusion is fascist.

[schetin]

This one hadn't been provoked. It had been carefully planned. Nontheless, it doesn't make it less fascist.

[schetin]

Noone provoked Americans' intrusion in Iraq. Was the intrusion fascist?

[PropagandaBuster]

As expected, you have your history wrong.

[schetin]

Well, first learn it, then say if it's wrong.

[PropagandaBuster]

You may want to follow your own advice.

[schetin]

I never stop learning. Thanks for the advice, anyway.

[schetin]

If you don't want to believe it, you won't. Anyway, you say so much which side you are on, but all you can back upon is your perverted media. What's your proof, but pictures showing Georgian fascists called Russians by your media?

[schetin]

I'm addressing PropagandaBuster, lest there be any misunderstanding...

[PropagandaBuster]

What proof are you asking for?

[schetin]

PropagandaBuster, have you forgotten what your film is about? YOu are backing up your argumentations with false premises.

[PropagandaBuster]

So you are going to avoid the question.

[schetin]

Sorry, I wasn't very attentive when I watched your film, haven't got used to your manner of speach.

Excuse me.

[PropagandaBuster]

No problem, and thank you.

[wildbestia]

one comment.

1. Russia always had ready army in that region. Don't forget that it's where Chechnya is, Russia keeps its army ready for everything. So large army there is a usual thing.

2. Don't forget who Putin is - KGB. And what was KGB famious for - spies. I think Russians infiltrated Georgian government (and maybe US) and knew exact date and time of an attack, so they reacted in 12 hours.

[acabramzach]

"I'm not sure he meant Saakashvili......."(Schetin)

Then why are you making a declaration on something you doubt ?

[schetin]

Me making a declaration? I'm not in the position, for one. And my last name is not Medvedev...

[PropagandaBuster]

Yes

[schetin]

Medvedev said today: The world has seen that there still are political lusi naturae (freaks) who, for the sake of their current politics, are ready to sacrifice lives of innocent people.

I'm not sure he meant Saakashvili.......

[acabramzack]

Have you seen the huge statue of Stalin in Gori, Georgia ?

Dont get fooled. The "commies" are in Georgia and they are still jewish.

[Squig2510]

Race? You should start thinking about Mankind rather than what you call your 'race'. Then you start speaking of non white people. C'mon are we degrading ourselves to the ages where the colour of our skin represented some sort of status in society? You're living in the wrong age pal.

[dingorex]

Let's pray the UN remains an impotent organization.

[PropagandaBuster]

I think your prayers have already been answered.

[acabramzack]

My poor EonPeon, the Bank of London owns you.

The billions going in their pockets from the collapses of your banks you will work like slaves to pay back. Money that did not even existed before !

Worst, Russia is now the number one oil exporter in the world and the Euro will be oil's currency instead of the américan dollar. U.K. is waiting just for that.

They will make you collapse just like Soviet Union. Bush is with them, not with you. Just like his grandfather was with Hitler.

[alphonse01]

whats the song at the end?

[PropagandaBuster]

"The Battle Cry of Freedom" from the America Civil War (1861 -1865).

[acabramzack]

"And Stalin wasn't Jewish (he was also a notorious anti-Semite)"(USAGymnast)

His father was jewish. He did kill all the heads of the bolchevicks (mostly jewish) for political and power, but he left all the jews in head of the NKVD (KGB). So he wasn't anti-semite. His best generals were jewish. Like them, he was atheist.

[schetin]

Stalin (Joseph Djugashvili) was born to a Georgian clerical family... Damn, Georgia again...

[acabramzack]

His "father" was an alcoholic cobbler. His mother had to do housekeeping for David Papisnedov, a rich jew. Stalin married 3 jewesses. Papisnedov kept visiting his little "Soso" in power.

[acabramzack]

"You're the one who's bigoted against the Jews, not me."(USAGymnast)

It depends what you mean by "jews". If you mean people who follow judaïsm religion, then I have absolutely nothing against those.

Zionists are people who claim to be jews in order to exploit anti-semitism and holocaust myth as protection for their actions. In reality they are perfect atheists.

Maube youare such a zionist. You use the same rethoric.

[acabramzack]

"Or was Hitler justified in trying to kill all of the Jews?"(USAGymnast)

What are you talking about ? The bolchevick jews were allied with Hitler ! They invaded Poland together ! The World Zionist Organization were planning, with Hitler, the deportation of all european jews to Palestine. That was the final solution for the "jewish problem". Why do you think there are 80,000 georgian jews in Israel ?

I try to imagine the kind of history lessons they give you in USA !

[acabramzack]

The soviets killed millions of jews ?

So why is the holocaust only about nazis ?

Man, ar you mixed up allright !

[acabramzack]

Well maybe they have a good reason for not liking the jews. Are you a communist, USAGymnast ? Dont you know that Russia only exists since 1990 and before 1917 ? That in between those, Russia was turned into a communist regime called the Soviet Union ? That it was the jewish zionists bolchevicks who done that and created the horrible NKVD that would become the KGB ? That NKVD that spied on USA with help of the American Jewish Commity !

You want more ?

[brave23333]

this world is nuts

[acabramzack]

"If you would understand even the single trick behind this geo-strategic-political game that is going on..."(MultipleEFP)

Use more understanding, EFP. They are controled just as the USSR was. Their mass media, film industry, newspapers, are completelly under control. Their two political candidates had to kneel before another country's representatives (AIPAC) and promise obedience. That's normal ? They are inside a cultural invisible wall, just like Soviet Union was.

[acabramzack]

"And people think Russia could beat us?"(Mercyandvengeance)

It's not your war. You are beign used, just like the Georgians. You are paying for these wars and nice toys of war, just like the soviets did and went bankrupt. You are only getting one thing out of this : debt. Trillion$ of debts. They are doing to you what they did to Russia. Putin knows that very well.

[MultipleEFP]

USA and NATO are interfering in the post-Soviet space since the 1991 and they have ignite the wholle collection of civil wars, ettnic cleansing, killing, murdering, raping...

And you are probably wery proud on that ?!?

[MultipleEFP]

What a and idiotic neo-cretin american imbecile of EPIC dimensions you are !

If you would understand even the single trick behind this geo-strategic-political game that is going on in Georgia between NATO and CSTO and SCO...it would be to much for your fried brainwashed KFC brains of yours !

Talking about miedeval russian barbarians

I think you just don`t want to hear the whoole story about the instaled autocratic dictators that NATO and United States has installed since the colapse of USSR

[acabramzack]

The simple truth is that the communists are no longer in Russia, they are in USA and Georgia. It is the bolcheviks (jews) who invaded and annexed Georgia in 1921 with the help of the very first "Saakashvili" at the time called Jughashvili or better known as Stalin ! The communist parties were all over the world even in USA. They were supposed to help, from inside, bolshevick's invasions and power change. It is the same strategy today.

[mercyandvengeance]

Did you see that old, outdated equipment the Russians were using? Check out those old trucks and "tanks". Our Army hasn't used that shit in years. And people think Russia could beat us? Yeah right. The battle axe had me cracking up! XD.

[Arkura]

short but damn good battle axe :)

[VitruvianRex]

Interesting pics. Someone in CNN, MSNBC, or some other should pick up on these things. There's also Saakashvili flying the EU flag when his country is not part of the EU.

[cloudsifter11]

Come on you guys, Russian, bad as they are, didn't start this war, Georgia did. First blood was drawn by Georgia the night before the Olympics started, then when the olympics started the big news was spun "Russia attacks Georgia"... Propaganda Buster, you should know that as well. Read the end of alot of the articles, they admit as much at the END of the articles, but you aren't supposed to read that far to realize this that Georgia started this. Fox news/CNN were caught censoring that fact.

[cloudsifter11]

I'd be happy to provide sources to my claims.

[oinkysqueak]

You cracked me up Laughing. Thanks :)

[Zodiamaster]

lol "police" that certainly does not look like cirilic, is that what is shown in american newspapers <_<?

[numba1stunna4269]

"The U.N. needs to be chucked into the East River and the Congress needs to be chucked into the Potomak." That is God's honest truth right there!

[moe1979]

You dont understand america, there are 50 states, every state has its own rules and laws. And then you have federal law. Federal law says everyone has a right to bear arms. But states limit that. You can not just buy a gun legally, it is very hard. And some states dont allow it period. Some states its easy like texas, you can carry your gun in public. Remember, state to state is different thats what makes america different from other countries.

[oinkysqueak]

Good stuff mate :) You remind me of a cross between Fonzie and Rambo put together hahaha ;-)

[KurtGnu]

Oiink.. in general public pleasing terms, ofcourse.. :) Thanks for sending the video.. :) He sure has a point.. or three.. :)

[oinkysqueak]

He does :) I put it on my fav list :)

[acabramzack]

"mmh, maybe you are right cause i know that english banks rules the world in big part"(Cocorico)

#1 economic revenue in UK is banking services. All zionist (Rothchilds). All from war arms deals and interests manipulations. All from USA people having to pay interest on their own money (Federal Reserve)!

Exactly what the fathers of the contitution where fighting against.

Wake up America !

[Lapata999]

Your wrong about Russian staging points beeing ready . They went in after 16 hours of conflict.If they were staging they would be at the tunnel and be there in 2 hours.

[acabramzack]

"England are indeed in the pack of vampires, but they are to me the less dangerous of the 3..."(Cocorico)

There is no "3". Only two: British-zionist.

USA is being driven way over it's credit limit to serve the interests of those two.

British-zionist banking controls all.

They are the communists of the bolchevik revolution, the NKVD (KGB) propagandists and looters of atomic USA secrets, etc... All with help from British looking to get USA back as colony.

[EonPeon]

acabramzack. Don't worry, the King of England isn't going to come and kill you in your sleep.

I think it's safe to say that the British wrote off the idea of getting the USA back as a colony over 200 years ago.

[schetin]

...in which case Alaska should become Russian again - the term is over.

And California should be shared by Russia and Spain. :D

Don't worry: we want you where you are - too much of a good thing is no good at all. Unlike you Americans, we don't believe in global theories - they are narrow-minded, hence evil.

[runisunke]

want are you talking about?

your a Neocon you love war.

[acabramzack]

You better have more respect for USA, Cocorico. France's statue of liberty is not there for nothing ! The ideals we shared ! Our commitment we promised to honnor.

We have won battle against British imperialism and have to do it again.

[acabramzack]

You are wrong, Cocorico.

USA is as much an ostage in this as France is.

It is not a USrael, but a Britishrael. It was from WWI. USA is back as a British colony.

The constitution is spat upon.

[Flint133]

French! Ah, that explains it!

[dgc325]

maybe the russians did loot a museum...

[PropagandaBuster]

Hey "cocoric0" I too would be proud to see you die for Serbia or Russia. See, we can agree on something.