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  • I am not sure.

  • Is there a continiuos part for this documentary?

  • i dont recalled where did i read something similar of what this guy said..... the templar get toghether with arabs and they teach them alot of secrets.

  • He said eaters of hashish, not smokers of hashish. I knew what I always felt in my heart. :) here is another gnostic story whereby the legend of hashish was embedded in the story called jack and the beanstalk. Beans were code for marijuana seeds. This is also very interesting for Pythagoras's advice, who was also in a secret society, because it is reported that pythagoras warned against eating 'beans'.

  • 90 degree?

  • Where they really get everyone is their knowledge of the mind and how the mind works. They keep how the mind works a secret because if you people knew how to use your minds you would be dangerous to their power and control. I have a good mind to teach all of you their secrets but that could create chaos on the planet. I hate keeping secrets. I'm one of the few western women that knows their secrets. The good news is that the devil is weaker than you might think. Knowledge destroys his power. :o)

  • It's an ancient secret brotherhood of man cult. They definately worship the devil. They kind of are the devil...they are men that think they are God. So it would be fair to say that they worship themselves. You can find them at the heads of corporations and industries throughout the world. The worst ones are running America. They are the architects of this world. They created money and the world. Which is why they think they are God. They envy the penis and they hate women. They are psychotic.

  • Some true.. mostly false.

  • some is true

  • massive inaccuracy. absolute bullshit.

  • this video contains substantial error! but viewers, make your own research so you wont be fooled by shits. God has given us intelligent minds so let us use it wisely.

  • @YreaLizeS what kind of errors?

  • good video

  • Nice job, but Absolutely not real.Hasan Sabah has nothing to do with Masonry.But he was a follower of the DEVIL. What if the the secret dark group we trying the name like illuminati, free-masons, kabala worshipers is actually worshipers of Devil?

  • By the way Hasan sabah was not a Muslim but he had used the religion to brainwash people.

  • @Cytoskeleton1 If you really understand what he was doing and believed and what the templars believed and how they interacted together then you would make the connection. You also have to understand kabbalist and and gnostics too. But when you understand their beliefs you can understand how they all were the same

  • @Cytoskeleton1 and yes they worship lucifer or the devil which ever one you prefer

  • THE ASSASSINS ARE REAL!!!!! nothing is true, everything is permitted

  • I do not hate Muslims though and they are starting to become the enemy of the church. On October 7, 2001 is when Afghanistan was invaded and as crypto-Catholic Skull and Bones member whose father was a Templar Mason and Knight of Malta, George Bush Jr., who said in his own words that is was "crusade." October 7th is also the date the Holy Roman Empire started their crusade in the middle east.

  • The Catholic Church created Islam in 610 through Augustine monks and then we have false prophet Muhammad, and then later, Templar Masonic influence and infiltration begin on Islam.

  • Gnostics just believe that salvation comes from becoming self-conscious of yourself. It is not a satanic cult. In fact major figure on gnosis is Jesus Christ, who came to deliver the word - that is knowlege - to guide us onto salvation. The God on the bible on the other hand wants to keep you enslaved, ignorant and obidient - He is the satan christ is telling about.

  • ignatius loyola was a basque person

  • educational

  • cool

  • By the way, World of Warcraft music... wtfuck

  • No offense - but some of your information is misleading. Good information that does explain a good portion of information but most of it is Bill Coopers work... give credit where credit is due.

  • fuck GOD its all a load of fairy tales

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  • Whats the secret? Tell me that.

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  • HAHAHAHAHAHHA the music in the background is from world of warcraft.....

  • Bill Schnoebelen is a TOTAL FRAUD!!!!! The SLIGHTEST bit of research will show you that he is blending fact with LIES. Yes the esoteric traditions go WAY back, and YES... Freemasonry was born from those things... but we're talking about Occult (Latin for HIDDEN) TRADITIONS... NOT a conspiracy. It is about acquisition of KNOWLEDGE, LIGHT, PERSONAL DIVINITY... not mundane worldly power and wealth. Do your OWN homework, and for GOD's sake, stop listening to religious zealots who make things up.

  • Instead of bending and reinterpreting history to condemn Jews, Masons, and Muslims why don't you just admit that you are bigoted, racist, white supremacists? It would be so much easier for us rather then listening to fabrications and lies.

  • Bull shit, so much bull shit.

  • Anyone claiming they know the truth and the people believing them are fools.

    The TRUTH will never be known.

  • The gods were created by people eating mushrooms and looking at the stars. We still are fighting this system created by people that could not explain our planet or the cosmos.

    All religions formed from the same stories told by man that lived off the labor of the people.

    This still happens today.

    The Templers figured this out and they threatened to expose the church that’s how they got so powerful and that’s why the church killed many of them.

    JMO

  • I can't wait until humans evolve past religious beliefs. The evil religious texts must be taught as mythology not history. These texts of all religious beliefs have dictated the coarse of the world for thousands of years and have only led us to an evil, greedy, corrupt, and materialistic society. Will we wait for the churches to completely destroy society before we act? After all how can you build a future when you believe an apocalypse is coming. The churches had their chance and failed.

  • @Indigo656 "all religions..." - what about Buddhism? Has Buddhism made the world more "evil, greedy, corrupt and materialistic"?

  • @GuyC7 No I don't really consider Buddhism a religion more of a philosophy or way of life. I think it is unjustly classified as a religion.

  • @Indigo656 Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.

  • WOW MUSIC!

    

  • 90 degree, never heard of that level.  Makes me think this is bullshit.

  • The story of babel, where god "cast confusion" is one of those stories that discredits the bible. Our languages didn't just happen in some instant. not to mention doesn't the bible say that God is not the author of confusion? contradiction.

  • IS THERE A PART 2 TOO THIS TEACHING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT. I AM TRULY GRATEFUL FOR TRUTH . GOD BE WITH US ALL!!

  • I mean.. REALLY stoned u must be a stoner :D

    nice movie great work !

  • I mean.. REALLY stoned

  • christians don't even know they worship Amen-the egyptian god of the occult. Schnoeblen fails to mention this because he's lying all the time. if anyone has hurt the anti-NWO movement it's disinformationist Bill Schnoeblen. his dates for his own life don't even make sense/match! a "high" degree mason would know better than to take any religious book literally! i once saw Bill incorrectly give the sign of MM after claiming to be so. absolute BS. his kabalah comments are hilarious!

  • @3642130 for real??? amen...omg good looking ill never say dat again...btw i am christian and alot of churches is corrupt now becuz masons is the pastors...and they giving us wrong info...i dont go to church anymore

  • the sons of caine the parable of the tares Jesus spoke of The kinites

  • brother shall i not tell u a topic which is worth to research.its ISLAM .trust me u wont regret.I invite you to the Religion of peace.

  • A very interesting and scholarly book to read: Genesis of the Grail Kings by Gardner.

    It shows where we misinterpreted the original Hebrew text and diverged from what the Bible actually says. It tells the true story and it will blow your mind.  It's all backed up with references etc.

  • Islam has NO connections whatsoever to Catholicism, i'm not questioning whether the Assassins [Hashashin] were Illuminati, which is very possible. But i'm talking about Islam as a belief and the Qur'an prophecy never linked to the Catholic church, so try one more time.!

    Great video though!

  • @Soul2Soul78 the vatican CREATED islam.....History, AGAIN....google it.

  • @OurLordLennon , I Say google anyway you like. surely, u will get one. Vatican was able to alter the contents of bible & bring new versions with addition and deletion of verses & was able to mislead billions of christians around the world. And u say this Vatican went on to create Islam ? And till today the teachings of Islam remains the same ? ha ha ha ha.........

  • Food of The Gods tells another story entirely. Terence McKenna

  • Everyone have their right to believe what they want regarding faith but any theory related to such as the "mason" can always be referred to historical evidences. What bothers me is when I can't find any related historical resources to this Hashim "assasin" theory. Tried to google up things and search wikipedia for it, and I can't find anything about it. Care to guide me where this came from?

  • Well I got really interested with this Hashim guy who started the assassin thing. Researched it through the internet and couldn't find anything..Care to share some of the sources where this came from? I can find everything else about the mason and most of them popped out from all sorts of resources including the wikipedia..but this Hashem "assasin" thing is very new to me.. I need the info..we can't just say things without some references to historical evidences.

  • Well I got really interested with this Hashim guy who started the assassin thing. Researched it through the internet and couldn't find anything..Care to share some of the sources where this came from? I can find everything else about the mason and most of them popped out from all sorts of resources including the wikipedia..but this Hashem "assasin" thing is very new to me.. I need the info..we can't just say things without some historical evidences..

  • Well I got really interested with this Hashim guy who started the assassin thing. Researched it through the internet and couldn't find anything..Care to share some of the sources where this came from? I can find everything else about the mason and most of them popped out from all sorts of resources including the wikipedia..but this Hashem "assasin" thing is very new to me.. I need the info..we can't just say things without some historical evidences....

  • I think NONE of them is the one and only.

    Because they are all descriptions of THE SAME F#$KING THING!

    This is like starting an argument around a pin; you can see it. You recognize it's color and form. But once a group of d#$%heads decides to call it a bucket, all of a sudden we have generation after generation fighting, desparing, destroying, uneducating and adulating different designations for the exact same thing!

    None of you is right because you all bring conflict to each other.

  • you are just full of shit, that is taken from the fake so called christian bible

  • What is a 90 degree freemason? Unless it's a freemason using interpretative dance to demonstrate quarter past 12, I was under the impression that there are only 33 degrees of freemasonry?

    Whilst I don't doubt that there's something pretty sinister and hidden going on with the masons, this video appears to be effectively saying, "All these made-up religions are false and evil, our made-up religion [Christianity] is the only one that's right".

    Anti-drugs, anti-anything that middle USA dislikes.

  • @MrGettofuck My understanding is that the 90th degree is the Rite of Memphis and Mizraim.

  • @MrGettofuck a 90 degree freemason is a mason bent over 90 degrees while his master bangs his ass til it bleeds

  • I wonder why he forgot about that Talmudic-Kabbalah-Zionist Khazars. Gnostics, Jesuits, Massons, Mormans all come from that school of thought.

  • (2) Perhaps it's better to focus on HOW evil works, rather than WHO is evil, & if people need to listen to an EX-satanist to get a picture, better hope that the guy has REALLY had a change of heart...

  • Yeah there's a big effort going on putting it all onto the freemasons. It's very convenient for people to have a localized, identifiable culprit they can judge & isn't it just great there's one for each and every taste: it's the freemasons, no, no, it's jesuits. Jesuits? Are you kidding, it's the Britsish Crown. What?! It's the Vatican stupid. No really, it's Reptilians and ET's. Zionists idiot. Nooo, it's the Merovingian bloodlines...

  • Wow propaganda against Islam so many ignorant lies about Islam. Basically you christians change everything to suit your pagan beliefs like what you did to the bible.

  • @hamid954 JESUS IS THE ONE AND ONLY.....NOT muhammed or allah.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 - amen man. I got an entire blog on the difference!!!!!!!!!!! If you're interested!

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 , Really ? Then, Its time for you now to run as fast as possible to all part of the world & stop your people from becoming Muslims in millions. I can assure you one thing definitely, you can never be able convince with this youtube videos of yours even one among those who are embracing Muhammaden's path. can you ?

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 You do know Allah means god right.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 allah is just another word for God dipshit

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Come on.....we believe in Jesus, but not your Jesus...I refuse to believe in a God that was a child, and A god that was tested by satan, really Satan can test God or the son of God......and according to your beliefs Jesus was crucified for our sins.....this doesn't make sense at all. in our relegion your only responsible for your own sins, and you have nothing to do with others so called sins.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Allah and his prophets!

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 theres only allah and no other

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 dont bring down other religions to make yours superior

  • @XxTHExDEADxMANXx Christ is the ONLY Superior. I don't have a religion.

    Peace and God Bless

    T

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 seriusly dude do you think jesus wanted you to creat a war betwin religions? im christian and i respect those people WHY? most christians are a bunch of fucking hipocrates learn some hinduism nazism allah god dosent want you to reject those things he wants you to learn from it

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Oh yeah it is a religion.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Oh yes you do.

  • @XxTHExDEADxMANXx it's true, Islam, Mormon, other mixed religions are from the free-masons. This easily puts people off Christianity, and all is lost for those certain people :(

    God hates prideful people so we don't try and make anything superior except Jesus our lord and saviour from sin. Never too late my friend, good luck.

  • @danielkirk1 DID YOU JUST SAY GOD HATES!? HOLY SH!T you are the biggest fanatic out there P.S im protestan

  • @XxTHExDEADxMANXx I assure you sir I'm just going by the bible. There is a list of things Yahweh hates, even one thing he detests. It's up to you to find the truth, god bless and please turn to Jesus Christ.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Chesney Hawes is the one and only.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 ''dont bring down other religions to make yours superior''

    and still your shouting your own BULLSHIT about ''JESUS'' onto Hamid954 !! FOOL!!!

    All bible's are based on ONE story only difrrent names blablablablaaaaa its all BS !!!

    DONT BRING DOWN OTHER RELIGIONS TO MAKE YOUR OWN SUPERIOR FOOL

  • @TELEFOON87 What religion?

    Jesus said I am the TRUTH.

    It's not that hard

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Yes and my little sister also said I AM THE TRUTH but you dont gonna believe her to fool.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Just because ONE little Bitch said he is the truth doesnt make it TRUE !! FOOL.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Jesus never said that. Other people "wrote" that he said that...and so what. The world is locked in a conspiracy where the rich don't let the poor live. Who cares about prophecies. Grow the fuck up and address the issue of corruption. See how India abuses Bangladesh and it's water supply. And the USA with the oil...We already have energy created from water and HHO gas. The world doesn't need the oil it buys. We could eradicate the wars in the mideast, and 911 inside job.

  • @hamid954 christians didn't change the bible, look at the catholic bible, it has like 7 books added to it

  • @hamid954 This is documented HISTORY....bubba NOT A BELIEF!

  • @hamid954 you are a dumb fuck you book is a later copy of ours get you facts straight we are not pagan but you sure have a lot where your from

  • @TheMorbiousStone , Not a copy but a complete & final revelation. I find people like u desperately attempting to save the christianity on youtubes & google whilst you got no balls to face any Muslim scholar for an open debate on stage. This is because, all your world known bible thumpers, Hot gospellers, pasteurs, professors, JVs, RCs, PTs etc have miserably failed in front of the global audience to prove that Bible is the word of God whilst debating with Muslim Scholars. And now you hide !

  • @TheMorbiousStone

    Look up mithras hes almost same beliefs taken and applied to Jesus. Jesus is no son of god. Your salvation is based on little hints of the trinity in the bible but the word trinity isn't in the bible.

    Now if the quran is copied from the bible give me one verse.

    If the quran was copied from the bible how does the quran have no mistakes unlike the bible that has 1000 mistakes. Bible without a doubt been changed many times unlike the Quran which is preserved.

  • @TheMorbiousStone Cussing at someone is not way to convince them of Christian truth.

  • theres a diffrence between christians and catholics catholics are the pagans and if anything allah is a pagan moon god and muhammed is not a rightous man, If he were he would not have been a pedophile. Allah is not the god that the Jews and christians belive in his name is Jehovah or YHWV, you should find someone who is a real christian not someone who claims to be one, and ask him or her to tell you about Jesus. Muhamed is one of the many thany will deceive people and sadly they will perish

  • @somearmyguy1, hamid954 & anyone else staking claim to any religion. Please don't be offended by the facts stated here. ALL religions were created for the sole purpose of dividing the peoples of the world to create wars, buy the war torn country's property & instill restrictive laws. They're all fake.

    Yahweh, Jehovah & any of the 72 combos stemming from YHWH are fake & anti-scriptural. As often as Yah mentions how important His name is? Book of Malachi? It's obvious! HalleluYAH = Praise Yah!

  • @TJ2HouHyper (con't) Things to consider.The consonant letter "J" did not exist on earth 500, let alone, 2000 years ago, & was NEVER in the Hebrew language.This means that 2000 years ago there was NO POSSiBiLiTY of a Jehovah, Jesus, Jew, or Jerusalem. Anyone using these terms has been duped because NAMES DON'T GET TRANSLATED!

    Re: Islam: those in & out of the "faith" must learn the origin, changes in doctrine., & the obligation to Jihad, real or imagined. Muslims were lied to like ALL of mankind!

  • @TJ2HouHyper More facts to consider. The word HalleluYAH was changed to Hallelu-J-ah, after the advent of the consonantal "J" (1524AD in Italian 1st, around 1637AD in English), which started as an "i" (& "y") equivalent. 1 need look no further than the respelling of the word HalleluYAH, & the prophets names ending in -Yah being changed to -iah, to understand why it was concocted.

  • @hamid954 man.... stop ur wyning. there are corrupt faction in all fuckin religions.... mostly those from the middle east... n cristianity judaism n islam come from the sqame source

  • @hamid954 its sad you cant prove your slanders and are even ignorant of who made muhammad start islam

  • @hamid954 Muslims claim that they believe the torah, bible AND koran, they lie... The koran says God has no Son..... The bible says Jesus is the son of God... Muhammad is in the dirt waiting to be judged by Jesus .. Jesus knew who he was, where he was going and why he was here... Muhammad didnt even know if he was going to heaven.... Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

  • @hamid954 PAGANS HUH.//// 1Co_8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

    Isa_53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. REPENT and believe the Gospel!!! Jesus Christ is LORD

  • Read Vaticanassains III. Ignatious DE Loyala the founder came from the Templars. Now they run everything.

  • The truth is revealed... People should realise it. Our world is under heavy control by Illuminati. It's everywhere. In mainstream music, media, commercials, etc.

  • @MariusMMS sure is!

  • @MariusMMS Shut up you pussy!!!

  • @Dmac11a666 No.

  • As an atheist and a former Sikh, I find it hard to believe in Christianity and Islam. They have some of the most crazy morals compared to Abrahamic religions. Why are you showing Altair from Assassin's creed? That game supports ET threat, not demon hypothesis. Please prove to me devil of God actually exist. I know what the masons believe, but if they literally believe does it make it true? How about this, all the masons are brainwashed into believing in a lucifer. The end.

  • lol wtf i thought i had wow on..then realised its in the background music ;)

  • thats wierd that he said molech n them were fake gods. which they were but god said if i catch u giving your seed to molech your done! and god said to kill anyone who does or something like that

  • This is a big mistake,the templars where very welty but they are not bankers.All tru the history the bankers where Jews no matte what nationality they have in the moment ,they weere report of jews bankers even in the roman empire,and they where the bankers who finance the templars.The templars,the pirates,the iluminatis,and even the presidents of many countries of the world work for the jews bankers.The elders of zion are behind all secret organizations that exits true the history of the world.

  • Aleister Crowley's goal was to rid the world of Christianity, that is why witch posters who work for Witches Ann Cappelletti & Barbara Bush, Crowley's illegitimate daughters, attack the Pope and the Society of Jesus. How lies are pushed forward is by saying a number of true things, then throw in a lie, such as the Vicar of Christ, the pope is part of the Illuminati. He is not. It is witch posters & occultists, satanists, kabbalists, masons push lies. You are all luciferians, devil worshippers.

  • I actually agree. Any little event can be a cover up, and humans probably just dont know that the cover up, is actually a distraction for normal citizens. But it does seem pretty pointless.

  • "sound familiar I know" Not sure what you were referring too, but that story was strangely similar to the story in "the men who stare at goats" and that part of the story was pretty close to the actual events.

  • spoilers for AC

    Wow, you should have showed the AC ending (close to the ending) when you talked about the guy taking members into the garden. Almost word for word what happened (and I'm sure it's no coincidence that the guy in the game betrays you and looks a lot like the guy you were describing judging by the picture you showed)

    Never realized AC was that close to history. Just assumed the setting was the only real part of the game.

  • @videosfromderelix Explaining more, but this is my theory. Templars, the enemy in AC, they seek out the "Piece of Eden". They had their own organization. But what I just realized is, is that they have some sort of connection with the Illuminati.

  • @Megawaste12 Maybe. Hard to form an opinion myself when so much conflicting information is available.

    Sure we can say the government is altering the information, but those that make money from conspiracy theories have done the same thing.

    I'm starting to realize that both sides are using us as pawns. Pretty pointless the more I think about it.

  • @videosfromderelix I actually agree. Any little event can be a cover up, and humans probably just dont know that the cover up, is actually a distraction for normal citizens. But it does seem pretty pointless.

  • Very "illuminating"---pun intended! ;p

  • KLH feat Sta2f Un GOUT D'APOCALYPSE

  • Awesome video. I like Bill Schnoebelen and have seen every video of his on youtube, this was a perfect cut-out clip

  • I'm sorry, wasn't that the World Of Warcraft theme song? ...just saying is all.

  • @JacquesZupp You should stand by your convictions. Provide me some written dcumentation that supports your "Jesuits wrote the first 25 rites (Degrees) of Scottish (Rite)Freemasonry. Otherwise, your comment is to me, null and void.

  • @JacquesZupp I am seriously wondering where you get your information from, you intolerant jacknut. There was really no reason to insult me at anytime throughout your whole comment, learn some tolerance or don't comment. It is people like you that make this world the way it is... friggin kids. You have no clue as to what being a Brother is all about, so stick a sock in your mouth. Leave the conspiracy at the door.

  • the "Romanists" murdering thru the centuries and still today! Continuing to pillage & murder for greed power & occupation world wide! CANT WAIT for OUR Redeemer to sort em out! To judge those clothed in "Scarlet & Purple." America TODAY is the 21st century Caesar....ON CRACK! GodSpeed in LIBERTY!

  • He was a 90 degree Freemason, a member of the Illuminati, a Satanic Priest, a Catholic Priest a New Age Guru and even more.

    Hahahaha!!!

    Besides, . . . A 90 degree Freemason, pffft. I'm a Rosy Freemason 5000, so there.

  • LOL @ the WoW music.

  • What a bunch of bullshit...

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian With what proof do you have to take that claim and based on what research.

    -T-

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 I don't need to research anything.. but what I do need is a fully funktional and operating brain to think FOR MY SELF.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian What you just said made no sense. ACTUALLY YOU DO NEED TO RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING A CLAIM.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 If you follow people like Bill Schnobelen and let them run things you will end-up with a Christian dictatorship.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian How does Bill Schnobelen run a dictatorship? The U.S. is supposed to be A REPUBLIC. It is OUR SOVEREIGNTY just as your country has its own. That statement was way to broad there has to be some structure just like the foundation of a house. I dont follow 100% on that comment. Post your own videos and do your own research.

    -T-

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 Hey buddy... if you don't want any comments to your clips, well then, all you have to do is to disable the comments section on your channel.

    I would chose a Free Mason leadership in any country over any kind of religious leadership.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian I don't like to disable comments because some people might leave some tips and nice compliments. Sorry mate I chose the King James Bible as my measuring stick. Although I am not perfect.

    -T-

  • Bill Schnoebelen is an agent of Satan, sent to harm-destroy church and masonry.

  • @ALPHAandOMEGA44 i wouldnt put too much stock in the king james version. you do plenty of research, getting to where you are, im sure you would know the history of THAT version.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian freemasonry is a religion, they are atheist but they are such strict atheist because of the their "belief system" that they do qualify as a religion. Everything they do is a ritual, from entering the doors to lying. They believe its reason for all of it. your comments really are lacking intelligence

  • @Maniac50AE Actually it's your comment that lacks intelligence... Free Masons are not atheist, they believe in the "Great Architect of the Universe" I.E. God. Free Masonry of the world is an Umbrella Organisation constructed so that all men and women of all creeds and religions of the world can meet on equal terms as equal humans.

    Free Masonry are far more spiritually oriented than many other religions but the spiritual emphasis is on the human-being rather than God.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian you have clearly not read any of their books. The male and female forces is what they worship. Those are the creating forces, that is the architect that they speak of. Think about it, if your able to worship any god as a mason but then they say WE worship the Grand Architect. doesnt sound like any, sounds pretty specific. Another reason for this name is because they dont believe you can create from nothing, you have to create from whats already there.

  • @Maniac50AE Now all of a sudden you say that Masons do worship a God, and a very specific one to, a week ago you said that masons were atheists... what's it gonna be.. atheists ore worshippers of a specific God.

    You are making absolutaly no sence in your jibberisch.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian No i never said they worship a god. i said they tell people you can worship any god but they place a specific name on their specific god. my point was that they are lyring because you cant call Krishna, Jehova. you cant call Jesus, Allah. for me to give them all the same titles or call them one god would be blatant ignorance. thats what Masons try to get you to believe. They say you just have to worship a God but they have a specific name they'll call their God

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian and when i say their god, you have to understand that their god is Lucifer, The Light, The Sun, all of these are symbols meaning intelligence. The human brain. Jesus comes to save the sinners and weak. There god lucifer only saves the Enlightened because the rest are too weak and ignorant and are nothing more that animals. that is there beliefs. so you are right when you said they place emphasis on the human-being because all of these stories to them means nothing...

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian to them except that man is his own saviour and his own god, we are the only gods and we have not perfected ourselves to godhood but through intellect we will. through science we will even find a way to become immortal. that there beliefs not mine though, i do find a lot of what they say to be true. if you really wanted to put a category on it, it would be the Humanist religion because they worship themselves. i hope this makes better sense to you.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian and originaly i was pointing out that they are a religion, they meet in a Temple and take blood oaths and an altar, sounds pretty religious to me.

  • @Maniac50AE ... yeas exactly.. and they also worship a deity they call "The Great Architect".. sounds pretty much like they are NOT devil-worshipping atheist to me.

    And on the blood oaths... the vine in the Holy Communion is the Blood of Christ so don't talk about blood oaths and blood rituals, the greatest blood-oath of them all are within the church.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian

    satan is the god of the modern freemasons. So, you would choose satanists as your leaders? There you have it, a "religious" leadership, followers of satan.

    Brilliant.

  • @SuperSonicVegetarian

    Here's to hoping your brain becomes fully funktional [sic[ and operating.

  • @TheIndoctriNATION The best indoctrination (ore worst) is selfindoctrination...

    People are acting like scared little lambs in a barnyard fire running into fire over and over again even though they are being saved over and over again just because they don't know what's out there in the cold darknes.