KC Jones...that guy made my pancakes one day @Jordan's restaurant in Bar Harbor back in the 80's. He's good friends with the owner. Never forget that morning.
There are other ways to stop a guy from making a layup. Still one of the most bush plays I have ever seen in my 45 years of NBA viewing. Heinsohn is an idiot and McHale should have been tossed and suspended.
@faudreechris "#42"? Wow..what are you 10? That's Big Game James Worthy..anyways, he did it so Rambis didn't clober McHale and get himself ejected..maybe suspended as well..
@LuigiLaker sorry i didnt watch back when they filmed the games with a loaf of bread, plus this particular game happened about a month before i was born
if this were todays game rambis would have act like a sniper shot him in the back and mchale would have been ejected and suspended for multiple games....and guess what im fine with that...id hate to see a teams key cog injured by bush league tactics
I recently saw the hbo special about Larry and Magic. It toched on the racial tensions in that serious. I wonder if thats why they chose Rambis to drill, so it didnt become a "race" issue
@kevincollins29 you saw that too? great special...especially when magic talks about the black Bostonian wanting the lakers to beat the "white" celtics...what an era
@kevincollins29 you saw that too? great special...especially when magic talks about the black Bostonian wanting the lakers to beat the "white" celtics...what an era
Something a lot of people don't know is that David Stern was already commissioner at this point. Detroit's bad boys were also during Stern's leadership.
I love these Forum fans.."BOSTON SUCKS! BOSTON SUCKS!" Fuck the Green..faggot ass thugs. Punked their way to a title in '84..but, we got em back in '85 AND '87
@titletownAKAboston Boston will win another one next year. They'll get one crucial addition... someone who's great in defense and rebounding... i just happened to know it from an unreliable source...but worth believing. Go Boston... KOBE SUCKS!!!!
amazing... the commentator just said : " ...part of the game." a player do this in the nba today and he gets banned... suspended for a season if he gets lucky.
@batoattack "The commentator" as you put it, just happens to be Tommy Heinson. He won 9 championships as a Boston Celtic, including 8 in a row. Just thought he should have his name included.
If it happened today it wouldve been a flagrant, thats all. I hate when people say the game is over regulated haha they still let them play hard (most of the time) in the post! They just have more rules against bullying the ball to the basket
From Geocgeo: 1984 Red Auerbach talking to Brent Musburger after Game 7."It feels great, whatever happened to the Los Angeles dynasty? You guys are talking about a dynasty, there it is (the O'Brien Trophy) right there, that's the dynasty. We're the best team in the world right now, the best out there
its all fuckin racism IMHO, David stern knows the NBA would catch heat if it was rough and lots of fights just because 90 percent of the league is black now a days, In hockey theres atleast tthree fights a game
Besides that play, McHale really had little impact on this series, scoring 13.4 ppg and 6 rebounds a game. After that play every time McHale breathed on a Laker he was whistled for a foul.
This is the play that made me really hate the Celtics. That being said, Rambis himself later admitted that he wasn't hurt at all on the play because he landed flat on his back. Heinsohn is an ass these days, but back then he gave a lot of compliments to the Lakers on the air. Almost too much. For those of you too young to see the Lakers showtime you really missed out. It was great to watch them at the time. A tape or cd is merely a copy and can't reproduce the feeling you get during real time.
I heard Cedric Maxwell and McHale on a radio show talking about this;they blame ML Carr;he was on the bench saying "Someone's gotta take one of these guys out;" they can't keep shooting layups;of course ,having ML in his ear forso long---Kevin didn't like being the "Bad guy"---Bird also layed the foundation calling his Celtics "sissies" the game before after a big loss....tj
Real basketball right here. This is when NBA players belonged in the league and knew the concept of team ball. Side note, Im 34, watched alot of games.
@DonCorleone87 McHale and Rambis are same size and build - Bynum's got 100 lbs. and 12" height on Barea and thrashed him mid-air because he was mad that his team was gettin' beaten like a rented mule and that he's probably being traded: far worse, no comparison, case closed.
@DrmrGuy1979 it is clear from the video, that is not what happened. It was a clear intentional and classless play by McHale. Would never get away with that shit today, 20 game suspension.
@Ronarch2671 Yes I am ,what are you going to do about it. Your shit wasn't funny and last time I heard someone say "u mad" was like a year ago, I don't even want to mention "holy cow" ?? Really???
now adays the commentating would say what a bush league play he should be suspended the rest of the year for that. The NBA is full of pussies on the court and in the commish office. Grow some balls and play don't cry every time you get hit.
The reason the NBA stopped this sort of stuff is because of the hoodlum, rap culture that overran the game in the 90's and continues to this day. Back in those days, fights were just that. Now, you have guys with tats, etc. And the league doesn't want that portrayed. White America doesn't want to see that (and rightfully so).
This NBA was pretty much dead by the start of the 90-91 season when they implemented the flagrant foul rule. This was after Phil Jackson complained that his Bulls team were routinely getting beaten up by the Pistons. But this was the norm back then, with the Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Sixers. You had to be really tough to be an NBA champ. The 90s was a poor man's version of the 80s and the 00s is even worse.
Yes, sportsmanship prevails. Magic would have helped up a guy in green if the situation was reversed. Today, guys knock you down and stand over you.
Another thing, Rambis and McHale same size, tall, lanky guys. Bynum vs. Barea - he's got a full foot and 100 lbs. on him and did it out of spite for his own team's horrendous showing and his pending trade (thus removing his shirt on court.)
As a 5th grader living in LA, I hated Tommy Heinson, who was the color commentator in this clip.
A lifelong Celtic homer, CBS was stupid enough to put him on for a nationally televised game between the Celtics and the Lakers. That was a bush league play by McHale yet Heinson is in his elements, defending the flagrant foul, calling it a part of the game.
@genghiskwon73 And I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Don't let a Boston fan see your comment, because they will get all butt-hurt & defend Heinson like he's a god. Go to "Tommy Heinsohn goes beserk" & you will see all the Boston fans sticking up for him like the bitches they are
If Kevin McHale were to do that to Kurt Rambis in today's NBA, he would no doubt be thrown out of the game immediately and suspended for a couple of games maybe the rest of the series as well as being hit with a big fine by eveybody's favorite commisioner David Stern. I wish they would put the 1984 Finals on dvd. The 1985,1986,1989, and 1991 Finals are. Also the 1987 and 1988 Finals to need to be on dvd. They were some of the best NBA Finals ever played.
avBor I totally agree. The league was TOUGH, a place for men. Now it's a place for metrosexual boys. The level of competition and competive spirit was like nothing you see today. See Jermain O Neal's "hard foul" on Lebron a few weeks ago? Joke. That was a no-call back in the day never mind hard foul. NBA today = Nothing But Adolescents ...
The irony of it all...Rambisd gets clotheslined by McHale,but Bird takes his hand and helps Rambis up.
The guys back then were men. They'd fight,bump,hand-check,everything. But in the end they had mutual respect for each other and pushed each other to better than what they were.
I believe 1988 was the last Finals where the fans were allowed to rush the floor at the buzzer. In my opinion the championships have never been the same since then. There has never been ANYTHING like the final minutes of a game when the crowd knew they were gonna close it out, everyone would smush together on the baselines to the point where the players and refs wouldn't even be able to inbound. Fans could touch the players back then and they wouldn't even stop the game. 80's were NBA's GOLD.
I was only a few months old when Boston went down to the Lakers in the '87 Finals but an NBA fan all my life growing up in New Hampshire, I've seen all the games, heard all the stories...this is the most legendary clothesline in basketball history. This is perhaps the only GREAT clothesline to ever happen. It shifted the entire series. It was something my father would talk about when I was a little kid. It's a shame what the game has become, but it is the fault of society
Had this been today, Rambis would have been laid out, been carried to the locker room on a stretcher, and given an IV. Coaches would've had a priest come in, last rites would have been given, and doctor's would have pronounced #31 dead.
Then Kurt would have run out onto the court with about five minutes left in the game.
However, had this happened to a player of *today*, the aforementioned would've happened, and said current player would've had a funeral three days later.
Man McHale was great player though. When he played big men didn't shoot 3's but at the very end of his career he was shooting a few and he could shoot em. If he played now he would be Dirk with a low post game.
Maybe this is where Rondo gets it from. Maybe that's why he is a sneaky little b!tch who takes cheap shots. Hmmmm.... Always will be remembered as a dirty player.
@funerallord Rondo just like most of the players today will do anything to win a game, if you don't like it go watch volleyball, all the greats were dirty....
If this happened today, stern would cancle the finals, fine & suspend everyone, and brings in the panzies. Yet history shows us that this was one of the best final series ever, as the players on the court decided the outcome. you even hear tommy say "this is part of the game". Now a day u get a tec foul if u look at the ref the wrong way after a bad call. I'm not kidding. This series could not exist today, as the nba has become so pussified over the past 5-8 yrs.
@agenthelios1 to some extent , they are finding out long term problems with multiple concussions in the NFL so there is some evidence to support some of the newer NFL rules. however u r right in that they maybe overreacting with the new kickoff rules and quarterback rules, but not the wide receivers head shot rules, which I think are needed given the high speeds and risks at that position.
@fendergibs I get the game was tougher and all 20 years ago, and not everything is perfect today. But honestly, McHale's foul is just not what I want to see in basketball. Why is clotheslining a defenseless guy extending towards the basket something to be nostalgic about?
@madmaxmedia its how it changes the series as Bird stated in the game prior that the Celtics were playing like sissy, Mccale ment to stop the lay-up and it got out of control its was not done to hurt kurt. Play I like how brid comes over to help him up like no big deal.
@fendergibs hey dumbass stern is a good commissioner did you see what happened next after that hard foul? its to prevent that commotion and prevent players from hurting.
@fendergibs Absolutely. The quality of the 2010 finals wasn't bad at all but if one compares that to the 84',85' and 87' finals as far as referring goes it's just pathetic... I think Stern wants kids to like the game pussified - but what kid 13 and under doesn't wanna see fights? When I was 7 i used to go to blockbuster every other week and rent "Secret NBA" and almost got a hard-on watching the fights and hearing the trash talk.The finals from 82'-98' got high ratings so the leauge wasprofiting
@fendergibs I understand what you're saying, and agree with you to a certain extent, but I think the game has changed nowadays to adapt to the physicality of the athletes. It's more of a safety precaution if anything (except for the staring, that's pussy ass shit if I've ever seen it). Rambis would've probably been in a coma if that was LeBron or Dwight Howard.
they should have ejected worthy for that pop on rambis! seriously, rambis was such an actor back than with those fake superman glasses... mchale barely grazed him and he flopped like a soccer player. cant believe they even called a foul on that!
@Lampheader LOL haha you probably never saw basketball before it turned into this touchy-feely crap it is today. Good, hard playoff fouls were indeed part of the game. Just watch a Bulls-Knicks or Bulls-Pistons game from the early 90s - stuff I grew up with. Normal fouls back then would be ejections nowadays. So actually it WAS "part of the game".
I had a pic of the clothesline on my wall for years after this...... the C's played some HARD series back then... the one with Houston was memorable too...cornbread the MVP
@phillyslasher i know right but if they did sterns bitch ass would set out fines like his momma told him to hahahaha i cant stand david stern and how he softened up the nba
kscileli I'm only around 5'7 and I dunk all the time when I play. I happen to be in my college's basketball team and my fancy dunking intrigues all the fans (esp the girls haha). It actually was actually particularly not hard, I just simply implemented the one-of-a-kind workout available at "50-inch-vertical(dot)com" - there's nothing to lose
@CarpetMuncher1337 - "bench warmers in division 1 college in this day of age" Mike Dunleavy was just a journeyman player of the 70s, but he beat all his 1991 Laker players, and his 1996 Buck players 1 on 1. All of them. Magic, Worthy, Scott, Baker, Robinson ... they all got balled up. By a joeSchmoe nothin player of the 70s + 80s.
@CarpetMuncher1337 - "because he played against a bunch of untalented white crackers like you." Actually, Larry Bird looked good because Larry Bird joined a bad team (29–53), and made it into a great team (61–21). When Larry Bird was healthy, he never played on a bad team.
Notice how Michael Jordan can't say that. Notice how the Bulls went from 57 wins with Michael, to 55 wins without him in 1994. Notice how the Bulls became a better team when they drafted Pippen and Grant.
if you wanna know how fucked up this world is, search on google images "kevin mchale". You'll see what I mean.
asdfjkc 3 days ago
Rambis looks like Commissioner Gordon from Batman.
ElChino988 1 week ago
KC Jones...that guy made my pancakes one day @Jordan's restaurant in Bar Harbor back in the 80's. He's good friends with the owner. Never forget that morning.
Switcharoo12 1 week ago
Hard foul, hard foul, thats all kids. This is how basketball USED to be played. Damn I miss these days and I'm only 25!
Also I still can't believe Kevin McHale is the coach of the Rockets.. still not used to it. Oh well, here's hoping for a lottery pick this year.
xSic187x 1 week ago
The 2nd greatest moment in basketball history, after Parish's punching Laimbeer.
pizzawar 2 weeks ago
Larry was a real sportsman!!!
Pexster 2 weeks ago
There are other ways to stop a guy from making a layup. Still one of the most bush plays I have ever seen in my 45 years of NBA viewing. Heinsohn is an idiot and McHale should have been tossed and suspended.
Pexster 2 weeks ago
The guy can't even form a coherent sentence!
Pexster 2 weeks ago
Heinsohn can kiss my ass!
Pexster 2 weeks ago
Complete bush play by McHale, and he should have been tossed for it.
4thandinches 2 weeks ago
@4thandinches that's 80's basketball baby! nobody gets tossed for a "simple" play like that!
wornoutshoes11 2 weeks ago
DAT WULD B A AUTOMATIC 3 GAME SUSPENSION DESE DAYS!'-
AAAASMAR 2 weeks ago
Best part about this - Kevin Mchale finished that game. How awesome was the NBA back then? No tough guys allowed anymore.
futuresluggerful 3 weeks ago
It's a good thing neither of these guys are black, or there would a thousand nigger comments...
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GINGER REF AT 0:53 Didn't know they made those.
Dobberisback 4 weeks ago
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Dobberisback 4 weeks ago
In today's NBA Stern would have the man shot on site.
mgdultra1234 1 month ago
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idyllchilde 1 month ago
Yeah! That's our coach!
Parlett316 1 month ago
If someone did this in today's NBA he would be exiled from the country by Stern.
GarchompNation 1 month ago
im a lakers fan but larry bird is a cool guy for helping up rambis
soundsgoodbra 1 month ago 3
Smart move by Worthy. Rambis was too important to lose for the rest of the game. He was thinking of the big picture.
thunderstruck665 1 month ago
my dad said to michael jordan for a comeical that he looked like kurt rambis
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Rambis should fight Worthy for that push that knocked him back down into the pho
tographers!!
rizwanarasheed 3 months ago
Rambis should fight Worthy for that push that knocked him back down into the pho
tographers!!
rizwanarasheed 3 months ago
*clobber
LuigiLaker 3 months ago
And now, whenever Kevin McHale is asked about this he laughs coyly.
ChristineCAlb 3 months ago
why does #42 on the lakers push Rambis
faudreechris 3 months ago
@faudreechris "#42"? Wow..what are you 10? That's Big Game James Worthy..anyways, he did it so Rambis didn't clober McHale and get himself ejected..maybe suspended as well..
LuigiLaker 3 months ago
@LuigiLaker sorry i didnt watch back when they filmed the games with a loaf of bread, plus this particular game happened about a month before i was born
faudreechris 3 months ago
if this were todays game rambis would have act like a sniper shot him in the back and mchale would have been ejected and suspended for multiple games....and guess what im fine with that...id hate to see a teams key cog injured by bush league tactics
mandypants02 4 months ago
I recently saw the hbo special about Larry and Magic. It toched on the racial tensions in that serious. I wonder if thats why they chose Rambis to drill, so it didnt become a "race" issue
kevincollins29 4 months ago
@kevincollins29 you saw that too? great special...especially when magic talks about the black Bostonian wanting the lakers to beat the "white" celtics...what an era
mandypants02 4 months ago
@kevincollins29 you saw that too? great special...especially when magic talks about the black Bostonian wanting the lakers to beat the "white" celtics...what an era
mandypants02 4 months ago
Thumbs up if Nba 2k11 brought you here :)
proballa27 4 months ago
Something a lot of people don't know is that David Stern was already commissioner at this point. Detroit's bad boys were also during Stern's leadership.
cdg0219 4 months ago
I love these Forum fans.."BOSTON SUCKS! BOSTON SUCKS!" Fuck the Green..faggot ass thugs. Punked their way to a title in '84..but, we got em back in '85 AND '87
LuigiLaker 4 months ago
@LuigiLaker Last time I looked, Celtics had more championships than the Lakers. So, that would mean "the FAKER LAKERS SUCK!
titletownAKAboston 4 months ago
@titletownAKAboston Boston will win another one next year. They'll get one crucial addition... someone who's great in defense and rebounding... i just happened to know it from an unreliable source...but worth believing. Go Boston... KOBE SUCKS!!!!
batoattack 4 months ago
@LuigiLaker & 2010
myboyz24 3 months ago
love how Larry just walks over to Kurt and helps him up 0:10
nofearfor13 4 months ago
amazing... the commentator just said : " ...part of the game." a player do this in the nba today and he gets banned... suspended for a season if he gets lucky.
batoattack 5 months ago
@batoattack "The commentator" as you put it, just happens to be Tommy Heinson. He won 9 championships as a Boston Celtic, including 8 in a row. Just thought he should have his name included.
titletownAKAboston 4 months ago
@titletownAKAboston right on. thanks.
batoattack 4 months ago
If it happened today it wouldve been a flagrant, thats all. I hate when people say the game is over regulated haha they still let them play hard (most of the time) in the post! They just have more rules against bullying the ball to the basket
TOGGGAA1 5 months ago
@TOGGGAA1 ooooh you're way off, it would be def more than a flagrant
treyslap 5 months ago
Who won this game?
dave4339 5 months ago
are they chanting RKO RKO RKO??????
CoconutEggnog1000 5 months ago
From Geocgeo: 1984 Red Auerbach talking to Brent Musburger after Game 7."It feels great, whatever happened to the Los Angeles dynasty? You guys are talking about a dynasty, there it is (the O'Brien Trophy) right there, that's the dynasty. We're the best team in the world right now, the best out there
Ivantheterrible666 5 months ago
its all fuckin racism IMHO, David stern knows the NBA would catch heat if it was rough and lots of fights just because 90 percent of the league is black now a days, In hockey theres atleast tthree fights a game
a1rjord4n 6 months ago
clostheline from hell!!
THEGREATMIAH777 6 months ago
Remember back when scouts wrote "not afraid to put a guy in the hospital" in their reports?
EponymousKid 7 months ago 2
"That's part of the game"..hell yeah it WAS part of the game. The whole thing is so over officiated and pussified now it's unwatchable.
pretorious700 7 months ago
this was when NBA basketball was great to watch
LTDANMAN44 7 months ago
Tommy Heinsohn: "Well, you don't let the other team make a layup." Lol!
mckennal1851 7 months ago 4
Wow...I was at least expecting a technical foul, even for 1984...but...NOTHING. Amazing.
silverfish1 7 months ago
Besides that play, McHale really had little impact on this series, scoring 13.4 ppg and 6 rebounds a game. After that play every time McHale breathed on a Laker he was whistled for a foul.
MerkinMuffly 7 months ago
Number 42 pushed his teammate knowing that Pat Riley would kill them all at practice if it got out of hand
NoName1325 7 months ago
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NoName1325 7 months ago
You should read the book written by bird and johnson "when the game was ours" it explains this action perfectly
thompsonnoel 7 months ago
imagine a guy like Rambis playing in the NBA today rockin that stache and mad scientist glasses.
look 0:51 James brown
LookAtMeGettinPaper 7 months ago
This is the play that made me really hate the Celtics. That being said, Rambis himself later admitted that he wasn't hurt at all on the play because he landed flat on his back. Heinsohn is an ass these days, but back then he gave a lot of compliments to the Lakers on the air. Almost too much. For those of you too young to see the Lakers showtime you really missed out. It was great to watch them at the time. A tape or cd is merely a copy and can't reproduce the feeling you get during real time.
mikeycereal 7 months ago
I heard Cedric Maxwell and McHale on a radio show talking about this;they blame ML Carr;he was on the bench saying "Someone's gotta take one of these guys out;" they can't keep shooting layups;of course ,having ML in his ear forso long---Kevin didn't like being the "Bad guy"---Bird also layed the foundation calling his Celtics "sissies" the game before after a big loss....tj
mrbriscoe2001 7 months ago
Geek glasses and a stache??
rampant1010 7 months ago
LMAO I love how he says "and now let's watch it"
MostKnownUnKnown91 7 months ago
Why did Worthy push Rambis? It was like he was trying to defend McHale. Worthy should've let Rambis do his thing.
fadeawade03 8 months ago 3
@fadeawade03 Worhty pushed pushed rambis back because he's a good guy and didn't want to see a teammate get the shit beat out of him
4Bernasconi4 8 months ago 7
@fadeawade03 Yeah that was weird. You're supposed to bear hug a teammate in that situation, not push him so he loses his balance and falls.
kaviraj 7 months ago
SUPERMAN
turisas1234 8 months ago
this is what rivalry is all about!!!
bonzie1645 8 months ago
@bonzie1645 Violence? Go watch MMA.
jd55192 8 months ago
I came here because of Bill Simmons
glarenomics 8 months ago 3
I liked how Rambis got shoved by his own teammate to prevent it from getting out of hand only for Rambis to be given a hand by Bird.
In today's NBA, it would have turned into a "who can look the toughest" sham.
SrustinLim 8 months ago
Real basketball right here. This is when NBA players belonged in the league and knew the concept of team ball. Side note, Im 34, watched alot of games.
Steelershaterforlife 8 months ago
@DonCorleone87 McHale and Rambis are same size and build - Bynum's got 100 lbs. and 12" height on Barea and thrashed him mid-air because he was mad that his team was gettin' beaten like a rented mule and that he's probably being traded: far worse, no comparison, case closed.
leadingreel 8 months ago
@invadr1 20 game suspension for this? lol... Bynum only got 5 for his which was far, far, far worse.
I'm not defending McHale... but this here was 25 years ago.
I'm over it, how 'bout you?
leadingreel 8 months ago
@DrmrGuy1979 it is clear from the video, that is not what happened. It was a clear intentional and classless play by McHale. Would never get away with that shit today, 20 game suspension.
invadr1 8 months ago
i do this to my brother when he is goin for the fridge
spookeddudedevito 8 months ago 4
this still makes Bynum's play on Barrea look like a ticky-tack foul
DonCorleone87 8 months ago 19
@DonCorleone87 No it doesn't. Bynum elbowed Barrea in the side. Rambis got up right away too.
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MattEffect 2 months ago
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@DonCorleone87 and all the refs called was a trip to the charity stripe... imagine that nowadays :D
MattEffect 2 months ago
Holy cow, that green pixel just clotheslined that yellow-ish one!
Ronarch2671 8 months ago 46
@Ronarch2671 WOW you're so funny.
mrrogue72 7 months ago
@mrrogue72 u mad?
Ronarch2671 7 months ago
@Ronarch2671 Yes I am ,what are you going to do about it. Your shit wasn't funny and last time I heard someone say "u mad" was like a year ago, I don't even want to mention "holy cow" ?? Really???
mrrogue72 7 months ago
@Ronarch2671 wow really, the pixel joke? this video is from the 1984 finals
NUMBERONEFAVORITE 4 months ago
@Ronarch2671 dude it's from the eighties... what do you expect?? smh
MattEffect 2 months ago
now adays the commentating would say what a bush league play he should be suspended the rest of the year for that. The NBA is full of pussies on the court and in the commish office. Grow some balls and play don't cry every time you get hit.
veronicamars1 8 months ago
The reason the NBA stopped this sort of stuff is because of the hoodlum, rap culture that overran the game in the 90's and continues to this day. Back in those days, fights were just that. Now, you have guys with tats, etc. And the league doesn't want that portrayed. White America doesn't want to see that (and rightfully so).
JohnLeeMD 8 months ago
@JohnLeeMD in short the NBA doesn't want to be portrayed as a "hood" league...
bonzie1645 8 months ago
This NBA was pretty much dead by the start of the 90-91 season when they implemented the flagrant foul rule. This was after Phil Jackson complained that his Bulls team were routinely getting beaten up by the Pistons. But this was the norm back then, with the Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Sixers. You had to be really tough to be an NBA champ. The 90s was a poor man's version of the 80s and the 00s is even worse.
lorenzodemedici1 8 months ago
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miketakeuchi88 8 months ago
@mikbor
They fought against each other in the game, yes, but they respected each other.
leadingreel 8 months ago
@leadingreel why would anyone resepct McHale after that, what a total dick, he basically Calude Lemieuxed the guy.
invadr1 8 months ago
@nycrebel I mean nycdickhead,
I guess the video we're referring to right here where Bird helps Rambis to his feet lied.
My bad, better have my eyes checked.
Loser.
leadingreel 8 months ago
@ewyll
Yes, sportsmanship prevails. Magic would have helped up a guy in green if the situation was reversed. Today, guys knock you down and stand over you.
Another thing, Rambis and McHale same size, tall, lanky guys. Bynum vs. Barea - he's got a full foot and 100 lbs. on him and did it out of spite for his own team's horrendous showing and his pending trade (thus removing his shirt on court.)
Sad.
Respect for hoop back in the day.
leadingreel 8 months ago
@leadingreel you're full of shit. No one was going to help the other team up. You baby boomers think everything "back in ur day" was perfect.
nycrebel 8 months ago
@leadingreel Oh except Larry and Magic fought each other all the time. But yea my comment does not negate your statement
mikbor 8 months ago
Wrestling???
OmgSlayerDonatoOo 8 months ago
Putting the fighting aside, just look at these people. Much more respectable looking than today's crowd.
Fettster777 8 months ago
As a 5th grader living in LA, I hated Tommy Heinson, who was the color commentator in this clip.
A lifelong Celtic homer, CBS was stupid enough to put him on for a nationally televised game between the Celtics and the Lakers. That was a bush league play by McHale yet Heinson is in his elements, defending the flagrant foul, calling it a part of the game.
genghiskwon73 8 months ago
@genghiskwon73 And I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Don't let a Boston fan see your comment, because they will get all butt-hurt & defend Heinson like he's a god. Go to "Tommy Heinsohn goes beserk" & you will see all the Boston fans sticking up for him like the bitches they are
myboyz24 8 months ago
@coolerking37:
Artest/Barea clothesline was deliberate, clearly not an accident: only accident was he hit his face instead of his throat.
See what happens when you make the Mavs angry?
Mothers. Day. Massacre.
Sa-weeeeep!
leadingreel 8 months ago
Bird helps Rambis to his feet. Classy guy, Larry Legend.
leadingreel 8 months ago
@leadingreel Not only that, notice Worthy bodychecking Rambis not to get into a fight!
ewyll 8 months ago
Amazing how neither got a suspenion. Ron Artest clotheslines JJ Barea by accident and gets suspended for a game. Boooooooo.
CoolerKing37 8 months ago
Lmao @ Tommy Heinson saying "it's part of the game". If Rambis had done the same thing to Bird he woulda been calling for his ejection!
deanw0rmer 8 months ago
If Kevin McHale were to do that to Kurt Rambis in today's NBA, he would no doubt be thrown out of the game immediately and suspended for a couple of games maybe the rest of the series as well as being hit with a big fine by eveybody's favorite commisioner David Stern. I wish they would put the 1984 Finals on dvd. The 1985,1986,1989, and 1991 Finals are. Also the 1987 and 1988 Finals to need to be on dvd. They were some of the best NBA Finals ever played.
KaraLarson26 9 months ago
avBor I totally agree. The league was TOUGH, a place for men. Now it's a place for metrosexual boys. The level of competition and competive spirit was like nothing you see today. See Jermain O Neal's "hard foul" on Lebron a few weeks ago? Joke. That was a no-call back in the day never mind hard foul. NBA today = Nothing But Adolescents ...
scolamiero 9 months ago
The irony of it all...Rambisd gets clotheslined by McHale,but Bird takes his hand and helps Rambis up.
The guys back then were men. They'd fight,bump,hand-check,everything. But in the end they had mutual respect for each other and pushed each other to better than what they were.
av8or757 9 months ago
that stern is a fag he took what made the nba the nba heart passion excitment.
mastersakuma 9 months ago
Kurt Rambis, a nerd ass player and a nerd ass coach Maybe he should open a eye glass store.
LACraig621 9 months ago
and now kurt is the head coach of the t'wolves where mchale is the vice president.
abuevamonster 9 months ago
I believe 1988 was the last Finals where the fans were allowed to rush the floor at the buzzer. In my opinion the championships have never been the same since then. There has never been ANYTHING like the final minutes of a game when the crowd knew they were gonna close it out, everyone would smush together on the baselines to the point where the players and refs wouldn't even be able to inbound. Fans could touch the players back then and they wouldn't even stop the game. 80's were NBA's GOLD.
TRJ22487 9 months ago
I was only a few months old when Boston went down to the Lakers in the '87 Finals but an NBA fan all my life growing up in New Hampshire, I've seen all the games, heard all the stories...this is the most legendary clothesline in basketball history. This is perhaps the only GREAT clothesline to ever happen. It shifted the entire series. It was something my father would talk about when I was a little kid. It's a shame what the game has become, but it is the fault of society
TRJ22487 9 months ago
Had this been today, Rambis would have been laid out, been carried to the locker room on a stretcher, and given an IV. Coaches would've had a priest come in, last rites would have been given, and doctor's would have pronounced #31 dead.
Then Kurt would have run out onto the court with about five minutes left in the game.
However, had this happened to a player of *today*, the aforementioned would've happened, and said current player would've had a funeral three days later.
BourgeoisBuffoon 9 months ago
I wish Rambis showed that much fire and energy coaching the Wolves....fuckin bum
SillyPutty30 9 months ago
TODAY= Flagrant II, Ejection, Plus a fine, PLUS a suspension, possible banishment from the NBA
youontwantnonnadis 9 months ago
Never understood why CBS had Celtic cheerleader Tommy Heinsohn doing national games.
bertmustin 9 months ago
Man McHale was great player though. When he played big men didn't shoot 3's but at the very end of his career he was shooting a few and he could shoot em. If he played now he would be Dirk with a low post game.
impassable 9 months ago
Maybe this is where Rondo gets it from. Maybe that's why he is a sneaky little b!tch who takes cheap shots. Hmmmm.... Always will be remembered as a dirty player.
funerallord 9 months ago
@funerallord Rondo just like most of the players today will do anything to win a game, if you don't like it go watch volleyball, all the greats were dirty....
Mike1245690 9 months ago
It is humanly impossible to NOT like the great Boston Celtics! :)
jgb191 9 months ago
REAL NBA!
GunGemini 9 months ago
Hiehnsohn and his bias commentary
ktsketch 9 months ago
Excellent clip
deltaglenbob 9 months ago
You had to buckle up your chinstrap and adjust your nut-hugger shorts before taking part in this 80s rivalry!!
RAV52 9 months ago 3
Rambis looked older with 25....amazing
TurboKock 9 months ago
kurt rambis, the toughest nerd with glasses
MrOuija79 10 months ago 3
another reason to dislike boston.
mrronman2015 10 months ago
If this happened today, stern would cancle the finals, fine & suspend everyone, and brings in the panzies. Yet history shows us that this was one of the best final series ever, as the players on the court decided the outcome. you even hear tommy say "this is part of the game". Now a day u get a tec foul if u look at the ref the wrong way after a bad call. I'm not kidding. This series could not exist today, as the nba has become so pussified over the past 5-8 yrs.
fendergibs 10 months ago 113
@fendergibs Same as NFL
agenthelios1 9 months ago
@agenthelios1 to some extent , they are finding out long term problems with multiple concussions in the NFL so there is some evidence to support some of the newer NFL rules. however u r right in that they maybe overreacting with the new kickoff rules and quarterback rules, but not the wide receivers head shot rules, which I think are needed given the high speeds and risks at that position.
fendergibs 9 months ago
@fendergibs I get the game was tougher and all 20 years ago, and not everything is perfect today. But honestly, McHale's foul is just not what I want to see in basketball. Why is clotheslining a defenseless guy extending towards the basket something to be nostalgic about?
madmaxmedia 8 months ago
@madmaxmedia its how it changes the series as Bird stated in the game prior that the Celtics were playing like sissy, Mccale ment to stop the lay-up and it got out of control its was not done to hurt kurt. Play I like how brid comes over to help him up like no big deal.
fendergibs 8 months ago
@madmaxmedia Exactly, just a bunch of old dumbasses who can't let go of their shitty 80's nba
reneperezz 1 month ago
@fendergibs hey dumbass stern is a good commissioner did you see what happened next after that hard foul? its to prevent that commotion and prevent players from hurting.
franciskreuer 7 months ago
@fendergibs I couldn't agree more.
Wolverinefan33 6 months ago
@fendergibs you didnt grow up in the 80 i bet
SuperSORAW 6 months ago
@fendergibs Absolutely. The quality of the 2010 finals wasn't bad at all but if one compares that to the 84',85' and 87' finals as far as referring goes it's just pathetic... I think Stern wants kids to like the game pussified - but what kid 13 and under doesn't wanna see fights? When I was 7 i used to go to blockbuster every other week and rent "Secret NBA" and almost got a hard-on watching the fights and hearing the trash talk.The finals from 82'-98' got high ratings so the leauge wasprofiting
HubieBrown2ndPerson 6 months ago 2
@fendergibs I understand what you're saying, and agree with you to a certain extent, but I think the game has changed nowadays to adapt to the physicality of the athletes. It's more of a safety precaution if anything (except for the staring, that's pussy ass shit if I've ever seen it). Rambis would've probably been in a coma if that was LeBron or Dwight Howard.
killeraddiction 5 months ago
@killeraddiction Rambis would've gotten up ready to fight - you don't even know who or what Clark Kent's roll was for the Lakers.
AMilitantAgnostic 5 months ago
Never noticed how much Rambis looked like Ned Flanders.
mcadarette 10 months ago
they should have ejected worthy for that pop on rambis! seriously, rambis was such an actor back than with those fake superman glasses... mchale barely grazed him and he flopped like a soccer player. cant believe they even called a foul on that!
reg12269 10 months ago
haha its funny cuz rambis took mchales job as twolves coach. karma is a bitch.
iLikaDaSexxxx 10 months ago
Worthy with the Check! lol.
12Aggiefan 10 months ago
larry bird is a classy dude in this one.
nickynick3710 10 months ago
showtime my ass! take that fakers bitches! CELTIC PRIDE
fredalc 10 months ago
Wait a minute what team is James Worthy on? pushing his own player like a dumbass
lsatep 10 months ago
@lsatep If he woulda let Rambis thrown a punch, Rambis would've been kicked out... That was an unnecessarily hard push though lol
EazySPM 10 months ago
Is that Tommy?
dickrobot 10 months ago
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If you took down LeBron like this, you would go to jail
montenegrin2010 10 months ago
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McHale: alright, time to bounce
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TurtleFurShure 10 months ago
lol back when everyone liked the Lakers, not a fan of either though but you gotta love the intensity.
blessing67 11 months ago
dang, that was dirty. that being said, kevin mchale is featured on nba jam. curt rambis...is not.
bentucky42 11 months ago
so funny.
inclinedplanes 11 months ago
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fucking retarded celtics commentator, "That was part of the game", yeah right, this isn't WWE you senile old man
Lampheader 11 months ago
@Lampheader LOL haha you probably never saw basketball before it turned into this touchy-feely crap it is today. Good, hard playoff fouls were indeed part of the game. Just watch a Bulls-Knicks or Bulls-Pistons game from the early 90s - stuff I grew up with. Normal fouls back then would be ejections nowadays. So actually it WAS "part of the game".
chitownsuperfan 11 months ago
@chitownsuperfan ya, except have the Celtics decked on the floor and he would piss fire with his commentary...he is truly a senile old man
Lampheader 11 months ago
this was considered a ticky tac foul back then
Kito343 11 months ago
I know, that skinny ass nigga did not try to get up and do something.
ThemJusticeLeauge 11 months ago
rambis was obviously way out of line ~~~he could have really injured mchale
johnnymonnky 1 year ago
mchale owns fakers
WorkingClass83 1 year ago
when rambis got clotheslined by mchale, he said "what the diddly!"
MrEdreed20 1 year ago
Rambis should have stomped McHale into the ground. And his teammates should have helped him instead of holding him off.
floppaganda 1 year ago
I had a pic of the clothesline on my wall for years after this...... the C's played some HARD series back then... the one with Houston was memorable too...cornbread the MVP
WrathchildNH 1 year ago
Why hasn't anyone done this to LeBron James yet?
phillyslasher 1 year ago
@phillyslasher i know right but if they did sterns bitch ass would set out fines like his momma told him to hahahaha i cant stand david stern and how he softened up the nba
socal323ful 1 year ago
That is a "foul." None of this flagrant 1 flagrant 2 bullshit. This is how the game should be played - way to go Mchale
spobrocy 1 year ago
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kscileli I'm only around 5'7 and I dunk all the time when I play. I happen to be in my college's basketball team and my fancy dunking intrigues all the fans (esp the girls haha). It actually was actually particularly not hard, I just simply implemented the one-of-a-kind workout available at "50-inch-vertical(dot)com" - there's nothing to lose
Kevin McHale Clotheslines Kurt Rambis
DolleyPolya6006 1 year ago
Imagine this happening in the average soccer match.
34days 1 year ago
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@CarpetMuncher1337 - "bench warmers in division 1 college in this day of age" Mike Dunleavy was just a journeyman player of the 70s, but he beat all his 1991 Laker players, and his 1996 Buck players 1 on 1. All of them. Magic, Worthy, Scott, Baker, Robinson ... they all got balled up. By a joeSchmoe nothin player of the 70s + 80s.
Dunleavy is white by the way. :)
NameCallingIsWeak 1 year ago
@CarpetMuncher1337 - "because he played against a bunch of untalented white crackers like you." Actually, Larry Bird looked good because Larry Bird joined a bad team (29–53), and made it into a great team (61–21). When Larry Bird was healthy, he never played on a bad team.
Notice how Michael Jordan can't say that. Notice how the Bulls went from 57 wins with Michael, to 55 wins without him in 1994. Notice how the Bulls became a better team when they drafted Pippen and Grant.
NameCallingIsWeak 1 year ago
12 McHale's thought this was clean.
kingofsweden2 1 year ago