The same antiscience culture is taking hold in Canada. The government blocks researchers from speaking to the media about their findings, scientists being fired from environment Canada [they could lay off some bureaucrats instead], experts being terminated, an approach to criminal justice based on ideology rather than facts. Lack of objectivity equals fundamentalism equals erosions of rights and freedoms.
I trust science. I do. However, I do not think that technology will save the human race. There is more and more technology that is simply manufactured to steal our freedoms and personal autonomy. Biometric scanners, GPS, surveillance technology is all used by Elites to crush public opposition. Let's not forget TV, the biggest and most successful indoctrination and propaganda system in human history! If science concerned itself with truly human concerns, we'd be happier and healthier. We're not.
I agree with this video 100%, but I really want to move from America to Europe or Canada where I do not feel like I am being constantly attacked for refusing to have a religion. I am called a "bad American" by many of the right-wing Christian conservatives. Anyone think WWIII will be started by the tensions of Islam and Christianity?
@techn0teen I think it will happen because of cyclical economic collapse of capitalism and the failure of the World Bank and IMF. But extremist ideas (racism, religious persecution, etc.) always arise in this scenario of global economic collapse.
I hate anti science idiots, mostly Christians and Muslims. THey are scum, and should be exiled to an island where they can live with their crazy ideology.
"Those who sacrifice liberty, for a little security, deserve neither" --Benjamin Franklin Whats the difference between Right-Wing, and Left-Wing? ---One dry-fucks you in the ass, while the other uses lube and molests your children. Fucking hate the media, and federal government. Fucking traitors, 99.9 percent of american citizens are traitors!
@redshogun, "anti-science politics is bad" is actually correct. you arent using grammar correctly. =) "are" would only be accurate if he had typed "All forms of politics are bad". Since "anti-science politics" is just one generalized topic, "are" has no place in the title. Nice try, though.
I think this video illustrates in part the cognitive dissonance of the creaitonists. In one breath they're all for a, cherry picked, bible literalism, but yet they enjoy their cars, computers, antibiotics, you-name-it!
At some level deep down they MUST know how science helps their lives in EVERY aspect, even the medical applications of evolution, BUT they turn a blind eye to it all out of complete ignorance. It's truly disgusting.
Why are WE as Americans believing "blindly" a bunch of politicians that just ripped America off and killed our our jobs. I can't believe WE as a country still fall for the " banana in the tail pipe trick"......WOW
Politics and science don't mix.. you try to be an honest scientist and tell the truth and you get blacklisted and they refuse your funding if you don't conform to their agendas.
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yes this guy is right, we should quit believing what we want to believe in, and no longer have freedom of thinking and freedom of speech, and do what scientist say, and completely help our government, because they are rich and smarter than we are, and let them control how we think and what they think is right, scientist are correct truth in the government and let them plan our future, lets get rid of the bill of rights, and get rid of god because the belief in god, is in the govenment way
No good scientist will ever tell you what to think or not think. However, a good scientist will challenge your PoV and beliefs to the point of finding the truth of the matter one way or the other.
I've NEVER seen an example of such dishonesty / lack of reading comprehension EVER.
He's talking about scientific censorship and bringing science more attention and lime light in the public view, not that you should just blindly obey government at all, you idiot.
I warned you my fellow Christians, THE END IS COMING! Depart now from all form of unrighteousness such as fornication, homosexuality, pornography, watching violent entertainment, drug abuse, smoking, gambling, cursing, bullying, revelries, pursuit of money and idolatry etc. LEST YOU BE FOUND NOT WORTHY TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
A volcano situated in the US will erupt not far from now, when this happen you will know that this warning is from God.
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No, an anti-science america is a GOOD thing!
You see the rest of the world has always invented the world-changing technologies and conceived the big ideas that have changed the planet... the usa has simply made money off the back of these and claim undeserved credit as a result. Having the money, meant the usa would not be troubled by the pesky 'rest of the world' wanting their just rewards.
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BUT now the usa has killed itself.
It has crippled its economy & its $.
Since the usa is a land of mostly anti-science, uneducated, propagandized & non-reading dummies, WITHOUT money it is unlikely to be able to afford to exploit the ideas/developments of others.
These ideas will, consequently, be exploited by those who invent them, putting more investment rewards back to those non-american who will repeatedly reinvest them.
Result; usa will shrink & the rest of us will rise. That's GOOD!
Now to label sciences is okay for the fields. Take the fact of morals and ethics if all based on the 'times'. Social atmosphere and media make a difference on public actions.There are some ethics and morals that seem to never change that science must weigh all the results. When teaching science fact or theories to kids must be know the difference. It is only fair to the children. Okay, got it of my chest. No burning at the stake now. ;P
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners Association has recently taken down it's YouTube channel.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the discovery of dangerous levels of MERCURY in HIGH-FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See one of the last remaining ChemRisk videos at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
Promoting climate change catastrophic scenarios is an example of how Science can be abused for political purposes. Nobody wants to talk about this, since Al Gore is the liberal sweetheart.
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners has recently taken down it's YouTube page.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the high-fructose corn syrup ad campaign. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See the last remaining ChemRisk video at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
Stalin's scientists said that collectivization will not work. They were either ignored, quited or sent to gulag labor camps. Collectivization was done anyway, and the result is history. Most people of the communism regimes didn't die due to communism, they died due to silencing or ignoring science.
If americans truly believe in religious anti-science bullshit, then it's in real fucking trouble in the years ahead as a leading nation. For it is Science and Eduction that determins Technology and commence, feeding the nation's strength. If by hand such a nation then rejects the knowledge of science commiting the crime of censering only those aspects of science that does not conflict with their personnal faith, then Religious Americans cannot complain as other nations overtake their postion.
Do you think so? Religion is part of human nature. It will not desapeare. The christian fundamentalism is growing fast. We need to fight to keep the religion-state separation, because in many countries the democracy is under attack right now.
Religion isnt a part of human nature, its just supersticion , science and education will make it absolete.
I live in norway in scandinavia. And we have less than 10% of people that are religius.
And most of them are immigrants and have brought their religion with them. And their numbers are shrinking.
I do belive that this eventualy will happen all over the world, mabye not in my lifetime but eventualy, unless the Fundamentalist destroy the earth first
The school shootings were a long time coming. I had the same access and the same temptation at that age... and it was the early 80s. Fortunately for me, I had a mentor that operated as my moral compass that diverted my hostility elsewhere. God forgive me, but I must confess that most who pushed me that way were fellow Christians in their background.
We presuppose that this country is all great and wonderful. Primairly due to our founding fathers. We are finished. And ladies and gentleman, take a bow, we did well, but we are finished. We just aren't, on the whole, smart enough.
Alexandar Graham Belle was originally working on a way to send multiple different telepraph messages through the same wire. If he had been ORDERED to make that from above, that's exactly what he would have done. But he would NOT have invented the Telephone.
Interesting. When it comes to Education, Mutation and Natural Selection are "Theories" and you have to "Teach the Controversy". But when people's lives are at stake, SUDDENLY there's no prayer or witch doctors, all of a sudden it's mutating microscopic organisms instead of evil spirits. How convenient.
Most of my fellow Christians are a bit irrationally (conveniently) accepting of this. Fortunately, most of us primarily rely upon science ("those who God gifted with the will and ability to study the ways of man and the world.")
Sometimes from the European side of the world one wonders if the US people are aware of some issues such as the functioning of the EPA -which via orgs such as the WTO affect the acceptance of GMO's worldwide-, so it is great to see that this man can so clearly articulates some of these problems. Thank you Lawrence Krauss!
I couldn't tell, sorry. Crazy religion fanatics tend to prey on scientific stuff that points out the stupidity of certain religious beliefs, so I assumed stuff wrongly.
Here's some better sarcasm:
I hope that God decides your fate early and makes sure you suffer(he ~not she~ does that). The good lord loves me, but he hates you people for believing that "evolution" nonsense. He created all of us, and science hasn't done anything positive for us like Jesus has!
That was absolutely dead on! I see an analogue in Law: there is little "curiousity driven research", the adversarial model is much more akin to applied research. And I think that we are worse off because of it.
Our legal system is developed ad hoc, a theorectical understanding of legal ideas is considered "academic" in a pergorative sense, and law schools teach their materials based upon how legal problems have already been solved without asking how legal problems SHOULD be solved.
...astrology, religion, homeopathy, and other such quasi scientific, or science hostile, nonsense. Where did the enlightenment go? Why have people turned their back on evidence and the scientific method? The end of objectivity, even in government, spells the end of democracy, for me. And then civilisation really IS fucked.
The biggest worry is the sabotage from within. Western populations have grown mistrustful of science (after nuclear accidents, biological scares etc), and have turned instead to the unsubstantiated eco babble spouted by pressure groups, with their unscientific claims about GM foods, stem cell research, organic farming etc etc. The politicians, with one eye on the polls, have got into bed with them. And the population continues to place faith in...
...fighting against the trend towards faith schools where aour children are educated separately in ignorance of each other. But I guess it's easier to rant on YouTube about the creeping Islamic threat, and kid yourself your making a difference.
This is a real worry. Bush didn't even appoint a scientific advisor until a year into his first incumbency. If there's one thing that will spell the end of American dominance in the world, it's the dumbing down of science and the rebirth of religious thinking. Idiots shriek hysterically about the islamisation of western societies: they should be fighting misleading and non factual religious thinking in all it's forms, fighting for the separation of church/mosque and state...
Excellent presentation. It's unfortunate that science gets very little discussion during the elections, while the candidates court the religious votes. There's much work to be done to increase awareness and understanding of science in this country.
Politicians don't care about education in general, and therefore, they don't care at all about science. This is all so idiotic that it is almost funny. Educated people are becoming like a cult in this country. It's no wonder we are falling behind the rest of the world.
If there is any group of people I immediately identify as "lovers of their own selves" it is Christians. Anyone who thinks they are God's chosen has to be arrogant beyond words.
Do you have any idea how bat sh#t crazy you are that you quote things like "in the last days perilous times shall come" and actually believe it? Try reading a book from this century and maybe you will outgrow your childish fantasies.
I guess I'm just not used to hearing Americans talk that way. Usually it's boasting. Even the milder people like Obama seem to always be doing a macho routine. This guy sounds more like a Canadian to me. He's talking sense as opposed to bolstering up his position.
That he's not planning to keep Americans murdering Iraqis. He's still part of the right-wing American system, but he's not an extremist like McCain. He really does seem to have good intentions, despite his machismo.
It could be construed as an insult against the general American population, but it's not an insult about this guy. I'm just saying that the image of the typical American this day is something quite opposite of this man who's talking. The connotation behind the word "American" has shifted quite dramatically over the past few years, but maybe with people like this guy, that can change back to something more positive again. We'll see how the American citizens vote soon.
yes, I agree with ianhoppe. If anything, this posted vid allows a us to further our debate and desire for discourse on the role that science and common sense plays in our lives. But, I do ask myself that if common sense is on its way out, what forms of thinking will replace it? I shiver at even the thought of this.
agreed.though, I'm not worried about common sense leaving us.
Personally I hold strong Atheist beliefs and haven't been to church in years. my sister was confirmed a few weeks ago and i went to the mass. i noticed something that i hadnt before even when i was in deep question.
when recieving communion at this church everyone drinks out of the same chalice. it struck me as odd how many people passed up the blood of christ to keep from getting sick.
i wonder how it feels, to be a priest or cleric and see this kind of thing on a daily basis. to see science infiltrating your perfect little world bit by bit.
its going to be interesting after the next census when the majority of the country identifies themselves as "secular".
the tone and target demographic for campaigns will change. i'm looking forward to it.
Great point he makes about fundamental research. I'm a mathematician and I had an annoying conversation with a woman recently who asked me "but what is it useful for?" Aargh, I hate that question.
His final quote about "worth defending" is an interesting take on a quote from the first world war, when a Cambridge student came back from the trenches and angrily asked a lecturer "so what are you doing to save civilisation?" "My dear boy, we are the civilisation that is being saved."
"I'm a mathematician and I had an annoying conversation with a woman recently who asked me "but what is it useful for?"
That's truly astonishing. How can someone not understand the importance of mathematics? What does she think computers compute? Bloody hell that's depressing. I hope you set her straight, and told her that it's pretty much the foundation of almost all our technology and knowledge. If someone said that to me I don't know whether I'd laugh or cry.
Well, unfortunately I tend not to be confrontational enough, I tried patiently to explain, but the conversation got interrupted before I really managed to. It's annoying because it seems to me people are much less likely to ask that of someone who studies literature or history.
Of course, there are applications of maths but as Krauss hints, they are of nature unpredictable. What we know is that fundamental research is extending our knowledge and skills in ways that will have long-term benefits.
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It's a pity that we can't form a big secret society whose aim is to ensure that only rational thinkers have access to the benefits of science. So you'd have to be rational before you could have a car or a TV or a computer or get an anti-tetanus jab.
Sadly, we can't do that.
BECAUSE WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS.
We are the beautiful people, who share what we find with everyone.
And step by step, inexorably, with kindness and honour, we will prevail.
Theists' anti-science attitude is fucking ridiculous. How many varieties of technology do theists use every fucking day? How many varieties of technology are theists outright dependent on? Computers, internet, television, electricity, all of this wouldn't exist if science didn't. Period. Theists need to give science the right to flourish. If that means that religious bullshit is destroyed in the process, then so be it. Religion has no right to impede science.
But I thought God was a scientist, no? Oh right, I guess He's more about faith. I'm all for it. Faith-based health care, faith-based birth control and why not faith-based science? Good stuff. [/heavy sarcasm... meaning I agree with the video, no nasty replies please.]
They're already doing it with their birth control. If gramma Palin (GRILF?) is any indication, that ain't working. I'd like them to practice faith-based Russian Roulette... uh oh, this comment marked as SPAM in 3... 2... 1... (hey man, if God is all knowing, he'll protect you from that bullet, right? If not, it was his plan all along.)
Anyone want to try something REAL frustrating? Try teaching biology in high schools in the southern US states. The religious indoctrination is so pervasive, I find it almost impossible to teach anything about evolution without students making comments under their breath. It's a scary notion to think that the US is becoming a fundie controlled nation.
I wish I could do that but their parents would kill me or have me fired. Admin are all fundies. I just grin and suck it up.
Good thing the state has it as required curriculum. WOnder how long before this state pushs ID into my classroom. That will be resignation day for me, then move to a sane reasonable state.
It's a geek term, comes from online games like world of warcraft. It's basically Yee Haw! but in digital format. Really doesn't sound good to say, but it types well ;)
The gov spends all its time being secret and keeping secrets because of the fear mongrel effect,so if the sheep see a threat then gov gets to be the hero,Gulf of Tonkin in recent declassified records say it was staged,a False Flag,but we went to war in Vietnam over it We destroyed the whole country with agent orange,land mines,name it,over a Staged Attack
n its not 1st time. The gov doesn,t release tec till its 25 years old,so we base a lot of assumption on Sci that is 25 years old c.
Well isn't that a HUGE problem right at the start? That the gov't assumes what reactions they will get pre-emptively, treating us as idiots and not trusting the public to figure out things for themselves. Get gov't the hell out of my decision making abilities and back to what is important as to the "big picture"of serving its citizens.Any reactions people may have are up to them-let them flip out and be fearful for gods sake,it never KILLED anybody!This is why itis imperative tovote third party.
mikwid-All Governments work this way its called Problem-Reaction-Solution-
create a problem,wait for the reaction,then gov shows up with the solution n the solution has to have one major criteria,that will expand the governments size hire more gov employees n the pool they choose from is government friends and family because they are raised spoon feed government n will not buck the system ok so the next time u hear terrorist attack look at who saying it and there is ur terrorist alright.
There are enough scientists and rational thinkers out there that if we all moved to one state we would "get our way" and be the example for everyone else. Just look at the stats for atheist nations vs. religious ones.
What we need to do is pick a state and get as many of us to move there as possible. Pick a warm one. Doesn't matter who's there now, we'll out number them soon enough.
I'd pick Oregon my self, it's got a pretty good head start on the rational thinking thing, despite the woowoo practitioners. Also it has a small population and has a coast and forests.
Well I'm stuck here(have little ones) and it always surprises me how closed minded and threatened people seem to feel about combining science and any beliefs they may have...
It's largely because many people are little more than dumb apes, ie. one step away from flinging feces at one another. Humanity is definitely on a gradient in terms of worth, and the christbots that muck up politics in the states are on the bottom end of that spectrum.
I come from quebec and we have in colleges and universities what we call 'brain exodus'.
In other words, so many of our young doctors, medical graduates, and graduates of many scientific domains are moving to the US because of a lack of diploma recipients. Many feel they have much better paychecks and workloads. This is so true the government is voting for a law to prevent medical students form moving away after graduation
People need to stop being morons and replacing facts with their personal feelings or views or religious beliefs when they govern. It hurts us all, and there is no real benefit. I don't care if you're against abortion; in the end, what you should do is reduce the number of abortions with good policies, not try to ban it, which WILL be very counterproductive and cause a lot of illegal, unsafe abortions. The conservatives think banning it will stop abortion, but it will only make things worse.
Because, after all, if the cost-benefit analysis is positive, we will have a great policy that works and doesn't hurt us, and that throws the whole moral question out the window. If everything's alright with the policy and its effects, what's there to object to? The only thing to object to is that maybe it's not going far enough.
We do not have to worry about gay marriage if it's proven that gay marriage does not harm societies, which it doesn't. Nations that legalize it haven't fallen the wayside. It hasn't killed them off, although the European nations do have lower birth rates, but that's explained by other factors.
All the moral questions can be answered by asking "What is the most efficient policy?" That's kinda why I like the Natural Law Party, although they're a VERY marginalized 3rd-party in the US.
Right-wingers in general tend to be a lot more authoritarian and controlling. They're more deferent and less likely to question things. They keep tradition just for tradition's sake without thinking of how stupid some of the traditions are.
I mean, positions like being against smoking bans and being pro-gun, which I am, are not necessarily conservative as much as they are just fundamentally classical liberal and pro-freedom and individualist.
The Right of today talks about how it's soo devoted to freedom in this country, yet for decades their politicians in Washington have aided and abetted and even given weapons to dictators. They generally take strongly anti-freedom positions on issues: gay marriage, stem cell research, euthanasia and assisted suicide, gay rights, gay adoption, abortion the war on drugs, and so on.
Public policy should, for the most part, be based on what works (positive), rather than simply morality.
We should just ship the most conservative and influential people in this country to an island, so they can make their own idiotic, uberreligious, authoritarian, anti-gay community and LITERALLY stick their heads in the sand.
I mean, there aren't a whole lot of conservative positions on social issues (more so on economics) that really make any sense. One could argue against the death penalty on moral and practical grounds, even though philosophically I myself believe in it. But that's not the worst right-wing position. Extremely neoconservative and hawkish positions on war are the worst. Then you have hatred of gays, the former hatred of blacks and other minorities in this country, discrimination against women.
The NERVE of the anti-science Right! I'm so sick of their bullshit. Trying to force Creationism into schools disguised as "intelligent design". Trying to prevent sick people from getting potential cures through stem cells. Preventing teens from knowing everything about sex ed and protection, thus raising the rate of STDs and teen pregnancy. Constantly doubting global warming all because they're too afraid, like pansies, to admit it's real and take decisive action. Heads in the sand, folks.
The Right likes to bitch about how liberals and anti-war people supposedly have their "heads in the sand" all because they oppose the War in Iraq and many of Bush's policies, but it is THEY who have their heads in the sand on far more crucial domestic issues. It's funny how conservatives today hate intellectualism. They deny the facts all because their petty little "god" says it isn't so. All because a 6,000-year-old book says otherwise, a bogus non-historical book filled with lies.
Hell, the anti-science Right even has lackeys who claim to be experts on nukes who lie. The fact is, a so-called dirty bomb will NOT kill 100,000 people instantly. Now, it will vaporize and kill 1000s within a certain range, but it will not kill 100s of thousands in just minutes. That does not happen. Those 100s of thousands will die eventually from fallout. Besides, suitcase nukes and dirty bombs are much smaller than conventional nukes!
Nicely put . . . if only science literate, or at least FAMILIAR, people were governing the US, maybe we wouldn't be earning the name of a Gumby Government. Their brain hurts when actually having to think, so it must click back to the default of 'goddidit!' And McSame and Palin will insure that such anti-science rhetoric becomes the standard . . .
There was a nuclear war. A few years from now, all this, this whole place, everything, it's gone. Just gone. There were survivors. Here, there. Nobody even knew who started it. It was the machines, Sarah.
Krauss is brilliant! Cleveland lost so much when we lost his presence!
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The same antiscience culture is taking hold in Canada. The government blocks researchers from speaking to the media about their findings, scientists being fired from environment Canada [they could lay off some bureaucrats instead], experts being terminated, an approach to criminal justice based on ideology rather than facts. Lack of objectivity equals fundamentalism equals erosions of rights and freedoms.
michiko38 6 months ago
I trust science. I do. However, I do not think that technology will save the human race. There is more and more technology that is simply manufactured to steal our freedoms and personal autonomy. Biometric scanners, GPS, surveillance technology is all used by Elites to crush public opposition. Let's not forget TV, the biggest and most successful indoctrination and propaganda system in human history! If science concerned itself with truly human concerns, we'd be happier and healthier. We're not.
Bodhidharma1986 1 year ago
I agree with this video 100%, but I really want to move from America to Europe or Canada where I do not feel like I am being constantly attacked for refusing to have a religion. I am called a "bad American" by many of the right-wing Christian conservatives. Anyone think WWIII will be started by the tensions of Islam and Christianity?
techn0teen 1 year ago
@techn0teen I think it will happen because of cyclical economic collapse of capitalism and the failure of the World Bank and IMF. But extremist ideas (racism, religious persecution, etc.) always arise in this scenario of global economic collapse.
WarmongerWW3 1 year ago
God be all up in my pimp-game, disrespecting my mojo karma-explosion.
And that ain't good.
DrunkenPoetic 1 year ago
I hate anti science idiots, mostly Christians and Muslims. THey are scum, and should be exiled to an island where they can live with their crazy ideology.
dietsnapple89 1 year ago 2
"Those who sacrifice liberty, for a little security, deserve neither" --Benjamin Franklin Whats the difference between Right-Wing, and Left-Wing? ---One dry-fucks you in the ass, while the other uses lube and molests your children. Fucking hate the media, and federal government. Fucking traitors, 99.9 percent of american citizens are traitors!
mmmmmarcus 1 year ago
I agree with your opinions but I think this video would be more influential if you used proper grammer in the title.
*cough* Why anti science politics ARE bad for America *cough*
redshogun 2 years ago
*cough* You mis-spelled the word 'grammar' *cough*
MrSpeakeasy29 2 years ago 7
'politics' can be singular in construction.
shoshanq 2 years ago
Ass.
BELIALNEW 2 years ago
That doesn't sound right.
sabertooth1980 2 years ago
@redshogun, "anti-science politics is bad" is actually correct. you arent using grammar correctly. =) "are" would only be accurate if he had typed "All forms of politics are bad". Since "anti-science politics" is just one generalized topic, "are" has no place in the title. Nice try, though.
mmmmmarcus 1 year ago
@redshogun
Politics "is" a topic, singular, despite the final "s." This video is titled correctly.
5jerry1 6 months ago
I think this video illustrates in part the cognitive dissonance of the creaitonists. In one breath they're all for a, cherry picked, bible literalism, but yet they enjoy their cars, computers, antibiotics, you-name-it!
At some level deep down they MUST know how science helps their lives in EVERY aspect, even the medical applications of evolution, BUT they turn a blind eye to it all out of complete ignorance. It's truly disgusting.
Bluedragon094 2 years ago 2
Why are WE as Americans believing "blindly" a bunch of politicians that just ripped America off and killed our our jobs. I can't believe WE as a country still fall for the " banana in the tail pipe trick"......WOW
Politics and science don't mix.. you try to be an honest scientist and tell the truth and you get blacklisted and they refuse your funding if you don't conform to their agendas.
chriswise72 2 years ago 5
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yes this guy is right, we should quit believing what we want to believe in, and no longer have freedom of thinking and freedom of speech, and do what scientist say, and completely help our government, because they are rich and smarter than we are, and let them control how we think and what they think is right, scientist are correct truth in the government and let them plan our future, lets get rid of the bill of rights, and get rid of god because the belief in god, is in the govenment way
timothyiii 2 years ago
No good scientist will ever tell you what to think or not think. However, a good scientist will challenge your PoV and beliefs to the point of finding the truth of the matter one way or the other.
boburanus69 2 years ago 2
That's not at all what this guy is saying.
I've NEVER seen an example of such dishonesty / lack of reading comprehension EVER.
He's talking about scientific censorship and bringing science more attention and lime light in the public view, not that you should just blindly obey government at all, you idiot.
Bluedragon094 2 years ago
Timmy, You have an F in this class. Please see the principal for detention.
sabertooth1980 2 years ago
Science - The true definition of Open-Mindedness
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I warned you my fellow Christians, THE END IS COMING! Depart now from all form of unrighteousness such as fornication, homosexuality, pornography, watching violent entertainment, drug abuse, smoking, gambling, cursing, bullying, revelries, pursuit of money and idolatry etc. LEST YOU BE FOUND NOT WORTHY TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
A volcano situated in the US will erupt not far from now, when this happen you will know that this warning is from God.
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conceil8 2 years ago
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No, an anti-science america is a GOOD thing!
You see the rest of the world has always invented the world-changing technologies and conceived the big ideas that have changed the planet... the usa has simply made money off the back of these and claim undeserved credit as a result. Having the money, meant the usa would not be troubled by the pesky 'rest of the world' wanting their just rewards.
flangelet 2 years ago
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BUT now the usa has killed itself.
It has crippled its economy & its $.
Since the usa is a land of mostly anti-science, uneducated, propagandized & non-reading dummies, WITHOUT money it is unlikely to be able to afford to exploit the ideas/developments of others.
These ideas will, consequently, be exploited by those who invent them, putting more investment rewards back to those non-american who will repeatedly reinvest them.
Result; usa will shrink & the rest of us will rise. That's GOOD!
flangelet 2 years ago
I just hope the death cry of the great western demon is not in the shape of a mushroom cloud.
int3rl0per 2 years ago 2
Now to label sciences is okay for the fields. Take the fact of morals and ethics if all based on the 'times'. Social atmosphere and media make a difference on public actions.There are some ethics and morals that seem to never change that science must weigh all the results. When teaching science fact or theories to kids must be know the difference. It is only fair to the children. Okay, got it of my chest. No burning at the stake now. ;P
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The rats are jumping ship.
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners Association has recently taken down it's YouTube channel.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the discovery of dangerous levels of MERCURY in HIGH-FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See one of the last remaining ChemRisk videos at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
BeaucoupRed 2 years ago
Promoting climate change catastrophic scenarios is an example of how Science can be abused for political purposes. Nobody wants to talk about this, since Al Gore is the liberal sweetheart.
jaksap 2 years ago
The rats are jumping ship.
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners has recently taken down it's YouTube page.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the high-fructose corn syrup ad campaign. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See the last remaining ChemRisk video at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
BeaucoupRed 2 years ago
It is always refreshing to listen to an articulated person who understands the issues. Lawrence Krauss did an excellent job.
omiteru 2 years ago 2
Very upsetting when science gets trumped by politics.
hardrockgirl90 2 years ago 4
Stalin's scientists said that collectivization will not work. They were either ignored, quited or sent to gulag labor camps. Collectivization was done anyway, and the result is history. Most people of the communism regimes didn't die due to communism, they died due to silencing or ignoring science.
JemyM 3 years ago
If americans truly believe in religious anti-science bullshit, then it's in real fucking trouble in the years ahead as a leading nation. For it is Science and Eduction that determins Technology and commence, feeding the nation's strength. If by hand such a nation then rejects the knowledge of science commiting the crime of censering only those aspects of science that does not conflict with their personnal faith, then Religious Americans cannot complain as other nations overtake their postion.
bloodcell9 3 years ago 2
It's truly pathetic. Wouldn't it be nice if we could get rid of "faith" altogether. I tell you, the world would be a much different place.
rba718 3 years ago 4
He is a kickass guy, that Krauss.
Rommel266 3 years ago 3
The future belongs to athists!
The number of christians are shrinking and they will all die out eventualy
It may take time fore some areas of the world! but it will happen with time eventualy!
Ive seen it happen here in scandinavia
Its simpel Evolution really
The unfit and insane and uneducated will die out, and the Fit , sane rational will survive
Orin00r 3 years ago 3
Do you think so? Religion is part of human nature. It will not desapeare. The christian fundamentalism is growing fast. We need to fight to keep the religion-state separation, because in many countries the democracy is under attack right now.
PhedroPhedroca 3 years ago 2
Religion isnt a part of human nature, its just supersticion , science and education will make it absolete.
I live in norway in scandinavia. And we have less than 10% of people that are religius.
And most of them are immigrants and have brought their religion with them. And their numbers are shrinking.
I do belive that this eventualy will happen all over the world, mabye not in my lifetime but eventualy, unless the Fundamentalist destroy the earth first
Orin00r 3 years ago 16
Jim Henson I thought he was talking about the Muppet's for a second there
Chill197 3 years ago
The school shootings were a long time coming. I had the same access and the same temptation at that age... and it was the early 80s. Fortunately for me, I had a mentor that operated as my moral compass that diverted my hostility elsewhere. God forgive me, but I must confess that most who pushed me that way were fellow Christians in their background.
That80sGuy1972 3 years ago
i love watching videos on youtube naked! 0
mattteebee 3 years ago
You mean like raw footage? The truth? Or crap knowledge being broken down? I feel kind of left... oh I just got it...
thien0995 3 years ago
We presuppose that this country is all great and wonderful. Primairly due to our founding fathers. We are finished. And ladies and gentleman, take a bow, we did well, but we are finished. We just aren't, on the whole, smart enough.
jack19790 3 years ago
g someone lick my puss c
ecuadorianitic 3 years ago
this guys should have given this speech on TED, which I'm pretty sure he did too given his stature. Great Vid!
FlamingPope 3 years ago
Alexandar Graham Belle was originally working on a way to send multiple different telepraph messages through the same wire. If he had been ORDERED to make that from above, that's exactly what he would have done. But he would NOT have invented the Telephone.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Interesting. When it comes to Education, Mutation and Natural Selection are "Theories" and you have to "Teach the Controversy". But when people's lives are at stake, SUDDENLY there's no prayer or witch doctors, all of a sudden it's mutating microscopic organisms instead of evil spirits. How convenient.
dechha1981 3 years ago 5
Most of my fellow Christians are a bit irrationally (conveniently) accepting of this. Fortunately, most of us primarily rely upon science ("those who God gifted with the will and ability to study the ways of man and the world.")
That80sGuy1972 3 years ago
Right On the money Video!
apks2004 3 years ago
The statement by the current administration 0.49 is extremely scary.
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freedom of speech." Benjamin Franklin.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin.
Religion has no place in politics.
ribbitribbitfrog 3 years ago 4
This man makes a good point
Creationism can't be accepted when you talk about things like bird flu
axxeman666 3 years ago 5
this person speaks the truth
Himemiya613 3 years ago 4
Sometimes from the European side of the world one wonders if the US people are aware of some issues such as the functioning of the EPA -which via orgs such as the WTO affect the acceptance of GMO's worldwide-, so it is great to see that this man can so clearly articulates some of these problems. Thank you Lawrence Krauss!
MrFacet 3 years ago 3
..thiz guy for President!!
m1ch1227 3 years ago 9
Brilliant. Thank you for posting. I added links on both my webpages.
graemhoek 3 years ago 2
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hello im a jehovahs witness and i dont like what you are doing ..remove this video..thank you.
lorajw 3 years ago
"hello im a jehovahs witness and i dont like what you are doing ..remove this video..thank you."
Please consider removing yourself from the planet.
AnnCunter 3 years ago 9
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stop posting comments,jehovah almighty lord stop this person.
lorajw 3 years ago
Then don't watch It.Go worship you're god while we find a cure for cancer.A pair of working hands do allot more than a billion grasped in prayer.
LHMcalindon 3 years ago 7
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jehovah will cure cancer ,you are delusional.
lorajw 3 years ago
Does jehover cure obesity as well?
franky225 3 years ago 2
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i am saying a prayer to jehovah right now.
lorajw 3 years ago
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May Satan possess your soul...
hamshow 3 years ago
What the hell? Wow, that's interesting. Whose soul? Also, is this a religious comment?
FFFan3445 3 years ago
It was meant to be a sarcastic comment...
hamshow 3 years ago
I couldn't tell, sorry. Crazy religion fanatics tend to prey on scientific stuff that points out the stupidity of certain religious beliefs, so I assumed stuff wrongly.
Here's some better sarcasm:
I hope that God decides your fate early and makes sure you suffer(he ~not she~ does that). The good lord loves me, but he hates you people for believing that "evolution" nonsense. He created all of us, and science hasn't done anything positive for us like Jesus has!
Lolz.
FFFan3445 3 years ago
Wow..... People took my comment seriously! Actually I am an Atheist...
hamshow 3 years ago
does jehovah cure stupid?
QuantumFieldBoy 3 years ago 6
"does jehovah cure stupid? "
No only causes it.
StupidCreationists 3 years ago 7
If you don't like science, then get off the internet.
unhealthytruthseeker 3 years ago 3
That was absolutely dead on! I see an analogue in Law: there is little "curiousity driven research", the adversarial model is much more akin to applied research. And I think that we are worse off because of it.
Our legal system is developed ad hoc, a theorectical understanding of legal ideas is considered "academic" in a pergorative sense, and law schools teach their materials based upon how legal problems have already been solved without asking how legal problems SHOULD be solved.
RustyIronloins 3 years ago
What an absolutly brilliant piece, perfectly articulated and absolutly correct in every way.
adamwebb1 3 years ago 2
...astrology, religion, homeopathy, and other such quasi scientific, or science hostile, nonsense. Where did the enlightenment go? Why have people turned their back on evidence and the scientific method? The end of objectivity, even in government, spells the end of democracy, for me. And then civilisation really IS fucked.
mmartini50 3 years ago 4
The biggest worry is the sabotage from within. Western populations have grown mistrustful of science (after nuclear accidents, biological scares etc), and have turned instead to the unsubstantiated eco babble spouted by pressure groups, with their unscientific claims about GM foods, stem cell research, organic farming etc etc. The politicians, with one eye on the polls, have got into bed with them. And the population continues to place faith in...
mmartini50 3 years ago
Why are christians so damn lazy?
We shouldn't have to answer these questions for you.
Read a book, do some research, this is the problem with these people; They don't bother to learn about science. They just assume that we don't know.
Its like you asking us to do your math homework because you're to lazy to do it.
sciencenerd213 3 years ago 5
True! True! LOL...
mmartini50 3 years ago 2
*you're*
mmartini50 3 years ago
...fighting against the trend towards faith schools where aour children are educated separately in ignorance of each other. But I guess it's easier to rant on YouTube about the creeping Islamic threat, and kid yourself your making a difference.
mmartini50 3 years ago
This is a real worry. Bush didn't even appoint a scientific advisor until a year into his first incumbency. If there's one thing that will spell the end of American dominance in the world, it's the dumbing down of science and the rebirth of religious thinking. Idiots shriek hysterically about the islamisation of western societies: they should be fighting misleading and non factual religious thinking in all it's forms, fighting for the separation of church/mosque and state...
mmartini50 3 years ago 2
Excellent presentation. It's unfortunate that science gets very little discussion during the elections, while the candidates court the religious votes. There's much work to be done to increase awareness and understanding of science in this country.
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matmicmj 3 years ago
The example around 7:30 afterward regarding just WHY curiousity-non application based research was outstanding. :D
I am amazed at how insightful and intelligent that guy is. :)
curiouslittleboy 3 years ago
with statements on record like that coming from the administration, its easy to see how close the constitution is to being destroyed. very scary....
shehenazi 3 years ago
Well said.I especially like the statement at the end.
What is interesting & very scary,is the willingness of the US govt. to use only the science that supports a political and/or religious agenda.
Of course all the science restrictions get thrown out the window when it comes to finding better ways of killing those who disagree with the US govt.
I think the "Founding Fathers" are rolling in their graves.One simple example of how bad things have become is the mere notion of "Free Speech" zones.
ribbitribbitfrog 3 years ago
Politicians don't care about education in general, and therefore, they don't care at all about science. This is all so idiotic that it is almost funny. Educated people are becoming like a cult in this country. It's no wonder we are falling behind the rest of the world.
stevefrommi 3 years ago
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1This know also: that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, without selfcontrol, fierce, despisers of those who are good,
4traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,
5having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. From such turn away.
2TIMOTHY 3:1-5
nickomay30 3 years ago
Good job robot. You're just proving the point of this video.
changetomorrowtoday 3 years ago 6
If there is any group of people I immediately identify as "lovers of their own selves" it is Christians. Anyone who thinks they are God's chosen has to be arrogant beyond words.
Do you have any idea how bat sh#t crazy you are that you quote things like "in the last days perilous times shall come" and actually believe it? Try reading a book from this century and maybe you will outgrow your childish fantasies.
stevefrommi 3 years ago 7
cool, do you have any other fairy tales for us? OH OH, TELL ME ABOUT THE TIME THAT ONE GUY BUILT A BOAT AND SURVIVED A FLOOD.
jcyn21 3 years ago 7
And fuck that evangelical, coke snorting piece of shit, Bush.
May he burn in the hell he believes in, and has created.
curiouslittleboy 3 years ago 2
Fuck christians. -.-*
curiouslittleboy 3 years ago 4
Brilliantly worded. America is full of superconservatism.
HeavyOrdnance 3 years ago 3
I don't believe in Big Bang
semiliteratedgod 3 years ago
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This guy sounds un-American.
BayviewFinch 3 years ago
why do you say that?
ianhoppe 3 years ago 3
I guess I'm just not used to hearing Americans talk that way. Usually it's boasting. Even the milder people like Obama seem to always be doing a macho routine. This guy sounds more like a Canadian to me. He's talking sense as opposed to bolstering up his position.
BayviewFinch 3 years ago
Obama is not mild..??WHAT are you trying to say..
YamaruXninja 3 years ago
That he's not planning to keep Americans murdering Iraqis. He's still part of the right-wing American system, but he's not an extremist like McCain. He really does seem to have good intentions, despite his machismo.
BayviewFinch 3 years ago
If "American" means fighting scientific progress and understanding with religious dogmatism, then yeah, you could say that.
ssnatcherss 3 years ago 3
Is that supposed to be an insult or a compliment? Are you trying to imply that he's "unAmerican" because he isn't of the norm in America?
kiwisunshine5233 3 years ago
It could be construed as an insult against the general American population, but it's not an insult about this guy. I'm just saying that the image of the typical American this day is something quite opposite of this man who's talking. The connotation behind the word "American" has shifted quite dramatically over the past few years, but maybe with people like this guy, that can change back to something more positive again. We'll see how the American citizens vote soon.
BayviewFinch 3 years ago 2
yes, I agree with ianhoppe. If anything, this posted vid allows a us to further our debate and desire for discourse on the role that science and common sense plays in our lives. But, I do ask myself that if common sense is on its way out, what forms of thinking will replace it? I shiver at even the thought of this.
deeliciousplum 3 years ago
agreed.though, I'm not worried about common sense leaving us.
Personally I hold strong Atheist beliefs and haven't been to church in years. my sister was confirmed a few weeks ago and i went to the mass. i noticed something that i hadnt before even when i was in deep question.
when recieving communion at this church everyone drinks out of the same chalice. it struck me as odd how many people passed up the blood of christ to keep from getting sick.
ianhoppe 3 years ago
i wonder how it feels, to be a priest or cleric and see this kind of thing on a daily basis. to see science infiltrating your perfect little world bit by bit.
its going to be interesting after the next census when the majority of the country identifies themselves as "secular".
the tone and target demographic for campaigns will change. i'm looking forward to it.
ianhoppe 3 years ago
great video.
ianhoppe 3 years ago 2
Great point he makes about fundamental research. I'm a mathematician and I had an annoying conversation with a woman recently who asked me "but what is it useful for?" Aargh, I hate that question.
His final quote about "worth defending" is an interesting take on a quote from the first world war, when a Cambridge student came back from the trenches and angrily asked a lecturer "so what are you doing to save civilisation?" "My dear boy, we are the civilisation that is being saved."
plevyman 3 years ago 3
"I'm a mathematician and I had an annoying conversation with a woman recently who asked me "but what is it useful for?"
That's truly astonishing. How can someone not understand the importance of mathematics? What does she think computers compute? Bloody hell that's depressing. I hope you set her straight, and told her that it's pretty much the foundation of almost all our technology and knowledge. If someone said that to me I don't know whether I'd laugh or cry.
theinquisitor 3 years ago
Well, unfortunately I tend not to be confrontational enough, I tried patiently to explain, but the conversation got interrupted before I really managed to. It's annoying because it seems to me people are much less likely to ask that of someone who studies literature or history.
Of course, there are applications of maths but as Krauss hints, they are of nature unpredictable. What we know is that fundamental research is extending our knowledge and skills in ways that will have long-term benefits.
plevyman 3 years ago
"It's been designed to kill us, lets just give up" LOL
Why was it even given the name "intelligent design"?
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matmicmj 3 years ago
It's a pity that we can't form a big secret society whose aim is to ensure that only rational thinkers have access to the benefits of science. So you'd have to be rational before you could have a car or a TV or a computer or get an anti-tetanus jab.
Sadly, we can't do that.
BECAUSE WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS.
We are the beautiful people, who share what we find with everyone.
And step by step, inexorably, with kindness and honour, we will prevail.
Oceanus57 3 years ago 5
Theists' anti-science attitude is fucking ridiculous. How many varieties of technology do theists use every fucking day? How many varieties of technology are theists outright dependent on? Computers, internet, television, electricity, all of this wouldn't exist if science didn't. Period. Theists need to give science the right to flourish. If that means that religious bullshit is destroyed in the process, then so be it. Religion has no right to impede science.
PheenixTears420 3 years ago 5
But I thought God was a scientist, no? Oh right, I guess He's more about faith. I'm all for it. Faith-based health care, faith-based birth control and why not faith-based science? Good stuff. [/heavy sarcasm... meaning I agree with the video, no nasty replies please.]
10kzebra 3 years ago
Faith-based diets is what I really want Christians to start doing.
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago 3
They're already doing it with their birth control. If gramma Palin (GRILF?) is any indication, that ain't working. I'd like them to practice faith-based Russian Roulette... uh oh, this comment marked as SPAM in 3... 2... 1... (hey man, if God is all knowing, he'll protect you from that bullet, right? If not, it was his plan all along.)
10kzebra 3 years ago 4
Anyone want to try something REAL frustrating? Try teaching biology in high schools in the southern US states. The religious indoctrination is so pervasive, I find it almost impossible to teach anything about evolution without students making comments under their breath. It's a scary notion to think that the US is becoming a fundie controlled nation.
WOnderful vid Piro. Thanks for the sharing.
saxmanchiro 3 years ago 2
Make them do a class project, and the goal of said project is to find evidence of what the bible says being true in regards to biology.
Then fail them all and you can laugh under your breath :)
Rantandreason 3 years ago
I wish I could do that but their parents would kill me or have me fired. Admin are all fundies. I just grin and suck it up.
Good thing the state has it as required curriculum. WOnder how long before this state pushs ID into my classroom. That will be resignation day for me, then move to a sane reasonable state.
saxmanchiro 3 years ago
wow piro, you have access to such compelling videos. Thank you for sharing!
deedub69 3 years ago 3
When it comes down to it 'dinosaurs' are the polarization that might eventually bring the United States to its knees.
AuShawster 3 years ago
Wow.
What he said!!!!!!
Well done.
csadler 3 years ago
yup
RabidApe 3 years ago
w00t
PiroNiro 3 years ago
what's that mean?
proscanone 3 years ago
It's a geek term, comes from online games like world of warcraft. It's basically Yee Haw! but in digital format. Really doesn't sound good to say, but it types well ;)
Rantandreason 3 years ago
Those idiots are anti science because they can't handle the truth.
potassiumchlorate 3 years ago 9
You're right - THEYYY CAN'T HANNNDLE THE TRUTH!
AcidRain64 3 years ago 3
The gov spends all its time being secret and keeping secrets because of the fear mongrel effect,so if the sheep see a threat then gov gets to be the hero,Gulf of Tonkin in recent declassified records say it was staged,a False Flag,but we went to war in Vietnam over it We destroyed the whole country with agent orange,land mines,name it,over a Staged Attack
n its not 1st time. The gov doesn,t release tec till its 25 years old,so we base a lot of assumption on Sci that is 25 years old c.
TheFoxNewsChannel 3 years ago
Well isn't that a HUGE problem right at the start? That the gov't assumes what reactions they will get pre-emptively, treating us as idiots and not trusting the public to figure out things for themselves. Get gov't the hell out of my decision making abilities and back to what is important as to the "big picture"of serving its citizens.Any reactions people may have are up to them-let them flip out and be fearful for gods sake,it never KILLED anybody!This is why itis imperative tovote third party.
mikwid 3 years ago
mikwid-All Governments work this way its called Problem-Reaction-Solution-
create a problem,wait for the reaction,then gov shows up with the solution n the solution has to have one major criteria,that will expand the governments size hire more gov employees n the pool they choose from is government friends and family because they are raised spoon feed government n will not buck the system ok so the next time u hear terrorist attack look at who saying it and there is ur terrorist alright.
TheFoxNewsChannel 3 years ago
I'm having trouble loading this video. Anyone else have this too?
lonelygreenteagirlie 3 years ago
Right wing politics are the cancer that is killing the US.
studio7manga 3 years ago 3
Politics, both right and left, are the cancer that is killing the US
Rantandreason 3 years ago 2
If it were feasible to create a country where the scientific community ruled, I'd do it. For now I'll stick with my partisanship.
studio7manga 3 years ago 2
Not a country no, but why not a state?
There are enough scientists and rational thinkers out there that if we all moved to one state we would "get our way" and be the example for everyone else. Just look at the stats for atheist nations vs. religious ones.
What we need to do is pick a state and get as many of us to move there as possible. Pick a warm one. Doesn't matter who's there now, we'll out number them soon enough.
Rantandreason 3 years ago
I'd pick Oregon my self, it's got a pretty good head start on the rational thinking thing, despite the woowoo practitioners. Also it has a small population and has a coast and forests.
studio7manga 3 years ago
Politics, both left and right, are the cancer that is killing /b/
KillerSnail 3 years ago
I'd agree, although they occasionally produce lulz.
studio7manga 3 years ago
"Why anti-science politics is bad for America"
IT IS SHOCKING TO ME THAT THIS ISSUE EVEN NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED!!!
If we become a 3rd world nation I will laugh my ass off at all the ignorant shit kickers as I emigrate to a place much much better.
studio7manga 3 years ago
Well I'm stuck here(have little ones) and it always surprises me how closed minded and threatened people seem to feel about combining science and any beliefs they may have...
mikwid 3 years ago 2
It's largely because many people are little more than dumb apes, ie. one step away from flinging feces at one another. Humanity is definitely on a gradient in terms of worth, and the christbots that muck up politics in the states are on the bottom end of that spectrum.
studio7manga 3 years ago
"Theory of the big bang"
You better watch out America or you will have a mass emigration of scientist.
qanazir 3 years ago
I come from quebec and we have in colleges and universities what we call 'brain exodus'.
In other words, so many of our young doctors, medical graduates, and graduates of many scientific domains are moving to the US because of a lack of diploma recipients. Many feel they have much better paychecks and workloads. This is so true the government is voting for a law to prevent medical students form moving away after graduation
ceeqanguel 3 years ago
People need to stop being morons and replacing facts with their personal feelings or views or religious beliefs when they govern. It hurts us all, and there is no real benefit. I don't care if you're against abortion; in the end, what you should do is reduce the number of abortions with good policies, not try to ban it, which WILL be very counterproductive and cause a lot of illegal, unsafe abortions. The conservatives think banning it will stop abortion, but it will only make things worse.
Whoo69 3 years ago 2
Because, after all, if the cost-benefit analysis is positive, we will have a great policy that works and doesn't hurt us, and that throws the whole moral question out the window. If everything's alright with the policy and its effects, what's there to object to? The only thing to object to is that maybe it's not going far enough.
Whoo69 3 years ago
We do not have to worry about gay marriage if it's proven that gay marriage does not harm societies, which it doesn't. Nations that legalize it haven't fallen the wayside. It hasn't killed them off, although the European nations do have lower birth rates, but that's explained by other factors.
All the moral questions can be answered by asking "What is the most efficient policy?" That's kinda why I like the Natural Law Party, although they're a VERY marginalized 3rd-party in the US.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Right-wingers in general tend to be a lot more authoritarian and controlling. They're more deferent and less likely to question things. They keep tradition just for tradition's sake without thinking of how stupid some of the traditions are.
I mean, positions like being against smoking bans and being pro-gun, which I am, are not necessarily conservative as much as they are just fundamentally classical liberal and pro-freedom and individualist.
Whoo69 3 years ago
The Right of today talks about how it's soo devoted to freedom in this country, yet for decades their politicians in Washington have aided and abetted and even given weapons to dictators. They generally take strongly anti-freedom positions on issues: gay marriage, stem cell research, euthanasia and assisted suicide, gay rights, gay adoption, abortion the war on drugs, and so on.
Public policy should, for the most part, be based on what works (positive), rather than simply morality.
Whoo69 3 years ago
We should just ship the most conservative and influential people in this country to an island, so they can make their own idiotic, uberreligious, authoritarian, anti-gay community and LITERALLY stick their heads in the sand.
Whoo69 3 years ago 2
I mean, there aren't a whole lot of conservative positions on social issues (more so on economics) that really make any sense. One could argue against the death penalty on moral and practical grounds, even though philosophically I myself believe in it. But that's not the worst right-wing position. Extremely neoconservative and hawkish positions on war are the worst. Then you have hatred of gays, the former hatred of blacks and other minorities in this country, discrimination against women.
Whoo69 3 years ago
The NERVE of the anti-science Right! I'm so sick of their bullshit. Trying to force Creationism into schools disguised as "intelligent design". Trying to prevent sick people from getting potential cures through stem cells. Preventing teens from knowing everything about sex ed and protection, thus raising the rate of STDs and teen pregnancy. Constantly doubting global warming all because they're too afraid, like pansies, to admit it's real and take decisive action. Heads in the sand, folks.
Whoo69 3 years ago 4
The Right likes to bitch about how liberals and anti-war people supposedly have their "heads in the sand" all because they oppose the War in Iraq and many of Bush's policies, but it is THEY who have their heads in the sand on far more crucial domestic issues. It's funny how conservatives today hate intellectualism. They deny the facts all because their petty little "god" says it isn't so. All because a 6,000-year-old book says otherwise, a bogus non-historical book filled with lies.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Hell, the anti-science Right even has lackeys who claim to be experts on nukes who lie. The fact is, a so-called dirty bomb will NOT kill 100,000 people instantly. Now, it will vaporize and kill 1000s within a certain range, but it will not kill 100s of thousands in just minutes. That does not happen. Those 100s of thousands will die eventually from fallout. Besides, suitcase nukes and dirty bombs are much smaller than conventional nukes!
Whoo69 3 years ago
Excellent.
Gugguggug 3 years ago
nothing to add great speech!
bliss314159 3 years ago
amazing
marshallsmith19 3 years ago
Listen to this guy, America.
BadYahweh 3 years ago 3
Bravo.
SpookyFan 3 years ago
Nicely put . . . if only science literate, or at least FAMILIAR, people were governing the US, maybe we wouldn't be earning the name of a Gumby Government. Their brain hurts when actually having to think, so it must click back to the default of 'goddidit!' And McSame and Palin will insure that such anti-science rhetoric becomes the standard . . .
otakursed 3 years ago 3
Science vs Government is the war of the future. Skynet comes online August 4, 1997. And will soon become self aware, oh wait it's already 2008, nvm.
xXAkridXx 3 years ago 3
There was a nuclear war. A few years from now, all this, this whole place, everything, it's gone. Just gone. There were survivors. Here, there. Nobody even knew who started it. It was the machines, Sarah.
Mephistophilus 3 years ago
Great speech.
Soundgarden4eva 3 years ago 3