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  • i think hoke has done very well michigan is 6-0 and 2-0 in the big ten

  • @chucknorrisworshiper I NEVER said Hoke will be as bad as DickRod, and I do think U-M's defense will be better for having Hoke; he's saying all the right things. But that's all it is right now. Talk. I have no doubt he'll have Denard as prepared as possible, but that doesn't mean Denard will be inherently successful–this isn't Xbox 360. Hoke would be an idiot not to use Denard for draws and some option plays. But what about when he's forced to throw from the pocket on pro routes?

  • @chucknorrisworshiper Pro Style players need speed to run the spread? I doubt that was the case for Ben Roelithsberger, Drew Stanton, Blaine Gabbert, Graham Harrell, or any of a host of other successful pro-style QBs in the spread. Correction: you need speed to run DickRod's spread. And Mallet left because A: he was homesick in Michigan, and B: came to U-M to play for championships not 5-7 'rebuilding' seasons.

  • @thetrout27 lloyd actually was the one to tell him to leave. do you honestly think brady hoke will do as bad as RR? i'm asking you an honest question. like i've said before denard will NOT be a fish out of water. there will be option plays still in the new offense. also, he has taken snaps under center before in high school. brady hoke, unlike RR, will actually be fielding something that RR knew NOTHING about. it's called a DEFENSE!!!

  • it sucks. to be. a Michigan Wolverine. hahahahaha

  • And what is "Beat us when we're good?" It sounds a lot like you're trying to say that somehow this past U-M football season shouldn't count, that the U-M losses or their opponents' victories weren't genuine...

    I'm sure all of the U-M players and coaches would love to hear a "fan" say all of their hard work and effort during the seasoneven in lossesshouldn't or didn't count for anything.

    So-called fans like yourself should just know when to be an adult and admit something.

  • I have many UM fans that have admitted that MSU's future is looking brighter for football.You don't see me talking trash to you in football so much because of how UM has taken us down lately. Yet you went all the way in saying UM has a more prestigious program in basketball.There isn't a person on earth that thinks " basketball" when they think UM.Truthfully, the only thing that comes to mind is their bowl record the past 10 seasons and this boring one-sided rivalry v.s. OSU.

  • What was our record against OSU during the Copper years. It was the exaxt opposite of right now. Everything is cyclical.

    The only thing that isn't cyclical is the fact that MSU will always be little brother.

  • Or that Michigan's basketball program will ever be relevant nationally again..

  • Lol..crisler is where the michigan basketball team plays..the biggest joke and embarassment of a team in recent memory. Why are Michigan fans talking trash when it's basketball season, UM hasn't gone to a tournament in 11 years. MSU owns UM. Hockey? MSU just won a NT. Football? Just beat UM. Basketball? Please see remaining 15 years. End of story.

  • Michigan owns MSU in hockey. We sweeped you this year.

    Our basketball history is about the same. We were great in the late 80's/early 90's.

    State came on strong in the late 90's/early 00's.

    Your BBall team is gonna have a very hard time this year.

  • No Bignate190, UM does not own MSU in hockey, considering both are powerhouses in the country. And no, we will not have a problem with UM in basketball this season, UM was revealed the other day with the loss to Wisconsin at home. Have you seen us this year? This MSU team may be the most talented one since 2000. Do me a favor bud, check MSU's record v.s. UM in basketball. And the only real history UM has bball is how they cheated in the early 90's. Dirty Program. State's taking over.

  • Sorry, last time that I checked when you sweep a team by a large margin (6-1 in one game) that means that you own the team. It's common sense.

    What do they teach at MSU?

    Wisconsin shot 60% from the field. They got hot, that's all that it was. Nothing more.

    Michigan will go farther in the NCAA tournament than MSU this year.

  • Kinda like how MSU got exposed against Maryland??? LMAO.

    You wanna talk smack but your team got blown out on a neutral court by 25 to Maryland.

  • The funniest part about this is your talking smack to an MSU fan about basketball. Thats equivalent to an MSU football fan saying we are better than USC in football. Understand?

  • Except USC has actually won something in football in the last 8 years. They don' just call themselves elite and then get their asses ran out of the stadium by an elite team... reference to the UNC game.lol

  • "lol" is exactly right. Reference that term to the UM basketball team the last 11 years. Reference "lol" to having 45 4 star recruits and winning 3 games. Reference "lol" to UM's performance v.s. OSU. Referance "LoL" to MSU's basketball record v.s. UM for the last 15 years. Walmart wolvie, your a fan of a falling program. And 4 Final Fours in 9 season's isn't dominant? A final four is equivalent to a NT in football. So, I'd say we are pretty close bud. Find another school to root for.

  • MSU may have had a better basketball team in the last decade but Michigan still has a more prestigous program.

    Reference lol to any big game that MSU played in this year.

    What happened against tOSU?

    PSU?

    Cali?

    UGA?

    You beat the worst Michgan team in 40 years in the 4th quarter. Then you decide to make billboards and show everyone how special you are. MD is a real classy guy,

    it's too bad that the Big 10 was down this

    year making MSU look real good. They'll never get any beter.

  • Michigan has a more prestigious basketball Program? Lol WHAT! Alright, this convo is ending, since you don't know your history at all. Who has more National Titles? More Final Fours? More tournament appearances? Dude, thats like me saying we have a more prestigious football program than UM. You have officially lost all your credibility? And your now making fun of our football program? Dude UM has lost to Toledo, Appalachian State, and Harvard in a 365 day time span. LOL.

  • Ya I actually am making fun of your football program. I'm glad you picked that up. Just sayin, MSU won't get any better than this year while the rest of the field will get better. State can't get the recruits to stay on top.

    If you think that Michigan is gonna go 3-9 for 15 more years than you are a fool. That ain't gonna happen. Enjoy your victory this year against the worse team in 40 years, it won't happen again.

  • Alright, since again you have proved your lack of knowledge ( which has totally convinced me your a walmart wolvie ), you are unaware of the fact that MSU is recruiting in the top 15 in the nation currently in basketball ( 3 spots behind UM ) and 3rd in the Big 10. Nor have you figured out that UM is potentially going to lose 3 of their recruits, including Forcier ( know who that is? ), their star fresh QB. UM will be young next, it SHOULD not be much competition for state.

  • You say that we're gonna lose Forcier and you say that I have no knowledge.

    Forcier is gonna be at school on Monday. He's been a diehard fan his whole life. You want me to really believe that he's going to transer. You realize that no schools have been recruiting him at all basically. He hasn't gone on a single visit besides to Mich.

    Enlighten me.

  • FYI, Michigan State lost to a team that lost to App State. So by your knowledge that makes your team REALLY bad then.

  • A more prestigious program? A program littered with scandal and forfiets? When in the last 20 years has Michigan had any kind of success when they haven't paid for it? Maybe in 1985 you could say more prestegious but now? You sir are a fucking moron. Oh and by the way, you guys still put up billboards drooling over the Fab Fives nuts and you couldnt even win the NCAA with three first-rounders on the team that were getting paid. Just accept the fact that Dantonio has our program here to stay.

  • Webber was getting paid by since Middle school. The booster had little to no ties to Michigan. You realize that Webber decided at the very last moment to come to Michigan. If he would have chose Michigan State everything would have been polar opposite.

    BTW Webber was getting paid long before he came to Michigan by people that weren't from Michigan.

  • that whole dantonio thing is the same thing you all said with john L. Smith so just accept MSU will always be Michigan's bitch

  • Always? LIke this past year...? Might want to check the definition of "always," or at least check the score from the game.

    For the record, JLS is NOT Mark Dantonio... I think you have your own coaching issues to worry about anyways.

  • If it was such a down year for the BigTen, what does that say for U-M, who finished with a LOSING conference record?

    Although I guess I can see how it would be a down year for the conference based on your perspective:

    You lost to a MAC team without registering a single offensive TD at home against a team that won 3 games all season.

  • Umm..after 11 straight years, I'd worry about geting to the tournament first. lol. Is a UM fan actually talking smack to an MSU fan about basketball? Wow. MSU has owned UM so badly in basketball, UM is typically not even a consideration for us. And the longer they keep Rich Rod for football, the longer I'm happy ;). If you know college basketball, which I don't think you do, ( your a UM fan, I don't blame you ) the great teams defend their home court.

    P.S. UM lost to Harvard last year.

  • Typical sparty.

    If you know your college basketball you'd know that the great teams don't get blown out by 25 to teams like Maryland.

    RR is gonna turn Dantonio into his little bitch. The recruiting classes so far have been impressive but the 2010 class is the first class where RR will be able to recruit the players right from the start of the process.

    RR will outrecruit Dantiono, which has already been proved he can do.

    Then Michigan will put MSU back in its place.

  • God youre a fucking twat moron. Does getting to the National Title Game equal a hard year now?? Shut your stupid mouth you ignorant peice of shit.

  • You got the diarrhea of the mouth.

  • Yeah, and you're an idiot whos wrong about everything

  • I agree, Chrysler Arena sucks my left nut. And Michigan is better than state at more than just football believe me. And state will never surpass Michigan academically.

    *cough* Little Brother! *cough*

  • C'mon, if you're a Michigan fan, at least spell "Crisler" right. The man gave you THE helmet and a national championship.

  • He did spell it right dumbass

  • Chrysler is the car. Crisler is the arena. So, you might want to learn to spell yourself.

  • Crisler Arena is a place looks like it has 1000 people in it with no lighting whatsoever.

  • To all the little sister walmart scUM fans that didn't go to UM and could never get accepted to the school keep talking smack until your football team goes 4-8 this year and then we'll see you guys jumping off the bandwagon faster then you did with the basketball team. Have you seen a UM basketball game lately? What is there like 5000 fans at most in the arena? Yaaaaaaa,great fans...

  • Michigan is a football school moron.

  • So what are they now?

    Little sister is what they are now bitch

  • Where have you bitches been for the last 6 years? Just wait until Rich Rod gets his recruits.

  • k

    one down year in football

    still swept you in hockey

    still going to shit on you in basketball

    and still remains as the better school...BY FAR

    hope you had your one year of fun because next year...your back to little brother in EVERYTHING

    as Mike Hart said "you let your little brother have some fun...let him get the lead" lmao

    msu is a JOKE

  • YOU are a joke. We kick your asses in basketball and football in your place each time, yet we are a joke? Denial is so pathetic sometimes...

  • denial? anyone that didnt live in a cave knew that michigan sucked last year...doesn't make the program a joke.

    MSU has a bright future in football as does UofM in basketball

    the rivalries in both sports will start becoming a lot more competitive as far as wins and losses are concerned

    and neither school is a joke...i just get going sometimes lol

  • I think I speak for all Spartans when I say we don't accept your olive branch. U of M basketball is not ready to compete with MSU. Our football program is improving and our 1-3 record doesn't show how good of a team we are. Saturday is going to be Wild

  • Hahahhahaha I just love it when state fans talk all high and mighty when they beat the worst michigan team in school history. YOUR TEAM is a joke. What was 08 your first win since 99? Beat us when we're good until then shut the fuck up.

  • A win is a win. Plain and simple. For as many perceived obstacles U-M has faced for changing coaches and offensive systems, something to point out might be that WE did that very same thing when Mark Dantonio arrivedchanged offensive and defensive systems; We finished with A WINNING RECORD AND A BOWL BERTH.

  • Did he switch his offensive scheme that had always been the same? It's much easier to switch from something to a pro style offense, than to switch from a prostyle offense to spread option. Pro style offenses don't win championships.

  • @UMAnnArbor2 Pro style offenses don't win championships? Oh, like the one Alabama won this past year? Or the one Lloyd Carr and U-M split with Nebraska in '97?

  • How many pro style offenses have won championships in the past ten years.

  • @UMAnnArbor2 Oh wait, so now it has to be in the last ten years?! Wow, you're a joke, and a typical Michigan fan, "Yes, let's extend the parameters, use every excuse possible..." Fine, just to humor you, (we'll leave out Les Miles' teams, since he uses a bit of a hybrid offense and besides, U-M couldn't land him) here we go: Ohio State in '02, Saban's LSU Tigers in '03, USC in '04, and 'Bama in '09. Four out of ten? Not bad at all...

  • What does Alabama run? What about LSU? Out of the last 4 champions two have been prostyle.

  • @UMAnnArbor2 "It's much easier to switch from something to a pro style offense, than to switch from a prostyle offense to spread option." How do you know this, from your extensive knowledge as a football coach? Your wild generalizations and over simplifications of the circumstances lead me to believe either your are a child, and for that I can forgive you, or that you have never attended U-M. If you have, I am deeply disappointed for all of my friends from U-M who are real football fans.

  • @thetrout27 ask ryan mallett why he left michigan. pro-style players NEED speed to perform the spread. plus, hoke isn't exactly going to transition purely to a pro-style while robinson is still the starter. he is in no way like RR

  • You're a fucking moron. First of all we beat you in '01 too and its not our fault that your team fucking sucked.

  • Michigan beat MSU 100 years ago. They beat them 50 years ago. They beat them 25 years ago. They beat them this decade. They will beat them in the future.

  • @UMAnnArbor2 Wow uhh... good call; you're really going out on a limb with that bold prediction. 100 years ago? Oh like when we were Michigan State College and Michigan was a University? A lot of those wins for U-M were over M.S.C. teams, which would be the modern equivalent of U-M competing with an FCS (D-I AA) team... Like App State, oh wait... Not saying they shouldn't count for anything, but look early in the media guide and you'll see wins over teams like "Michigan School for the Deaf."

  • let us know when you're good enough to beat. We'll be ready. also you seem to be forgetting 2001

  • We beat you when you were supposedly "good".

  • @glory789 Maybe they should start winning some football games then

  • That was great! I was at the game. That game was right up there with the 3OT thrilla from 2004 at The Big House

  • Little brothers of Michigan??? more like little chumps. Face it MSU, you will always be a .500 mediocre team because you attract no national attention for recruits at all. Who the fuck would ever want to go to msu? The only players that go to MSU are the rejects that Michigan didn't want because they weren't good enough. Have fun beating us on avg of once every 10 years.

  • you're and idiot. If you want to win in the b10, you need to be able to recruit your state. D'antonio understands that. That's why we got the top running back in the state, edwin baker class of '09. Chose us over texas, osu and scUM. True, we havent been good, but M.D. will bring us to the top once again. Pride comes before the fall, little sister.

  • just like michigan will always be a .500 mediocre team in bball? who the fuck would ever want to play for that shit ass team??? didnt michigan give shit ass northwestern their only big 10 win???? I think so. keep recruiting players thant no one in the big 10 would touch. good luck with that. You guys are far more MSUs little brother in bball than MSU is to U of M in football.

  • i believe this video is football not BASKETBALL! so shutup about your basketball team who i havent seen won a national championship in years. o, and i cant wait to see how good they are in b-ball next year lol.

    SWEET VID

    STATE SUCKS

    LITTLE BROTHER

    GO BLUE!

  • Yeah, they'll be terrible. With three returning sophomores, three incoming freshmen stars, and a core of solid players, they'll almost be as bad as twice as good as UM. "who i haven't seen won a national championship in years". Did you seriously say that? If there were anyone but UM chowderheads watching a video as inherently stupid as this, I'd just let it sink in, but by God that comment is stupid. How about those four star recruits for 2009 we're stealing from you? Go Green, little sister.

  • yeah well see how good u are. and the only reason i said anything about the basketball team is because how much state fans brag about their one decent sport.

    GO BLUE!

  • State sucks

    Go Blue!

    Go Memphis lol.

  • o yeah memphis kicked our ass I never did hear about how good michigan did in the ncaa anyway o wait a minute you didnt make it well how about the NIT o shit I forgot you didnt get there either well how about the CBI o yeah you werent even good enough for that face it you can never talk about basketball at least MSU can make a bowl scUM wont ever make the ncaa tourny or the NIT you are losing your only good defensive player now Epke is gone scUM sucks MSU owns October 25th the thrashing begins

  • maizenblue, how about hockey? I recall us winning the national championship last year. Besides, MSU will have a good chance against UM this year, especially since you guys dont have a QB to play with along with the other players that left/transfered based on their own decisions.

  • yeah you michigan made it further than state in hockey this year. also think what you want about msu beating us but im sure it will turn out different.

  • Oh, damn. You got us. We won the national championship, but by God you made it into the next round (and lost to the same team we did, but hey, who needs scruples?) and ended with a 1-1-2 record against MSU. That, my friends, is what being a "big brother" means.

  • actually michigan has been better at hockey than michigan state for years. so just shutup and stop complaining so much!

    Little Brother!

  • wait, so how many NATIONAL TITLES does U-M have in the hockey in say, the last 50 yrs?

  • umm i believe michigan has won eight since 1950 and michigan state has won 3. soooooo, next time you want to talk crap look up your information first.

  • michigan has the most national titles in hockey than any other team ever

    and state fans put boners in their mouths

  • @DoctorWorm1 actually, most of that comment seemed entirely incoherent and I couldn't even tell you were an MSU fan until the end

  • then you should shutup about your football team who hasnt won a national championship in years and yeah sure scUM will be good at basketball next year maybe they will beat harvard. Epke Udoh is gonna transfer so good luck with basketball next year have fun watching scUM win 2 games and MSU go to the final four

  • football team like you do about your b-ball team because we are actually good at other sports. o and i can GUARANTEE you that State won't make to the final for let alone the sweet 16.

  • I love the way you end things, State sucks, Little Brother.

    Hail, Hail

  • ...pretty sure that we beat MSU in basketball last year...and im pretty sure that MSU hasnt beaten us in football since 2001. soooo go suck a cock.

  • Nope, you're still retarded, MSU killed scUM last year in b ball. Wasnt even a contest, more like a rape.

  • i understand..i mean after all MSU used to be a farm college, but im pretty sure that michigan won at crisler in the 06-07 season 67-56. so check your facts before start talkin.

  • Then you should have said 2 seasons ago, because the way you said was last season. So learn to speak proper English at your so called "Glorified College", when you all think it's an Ivy League but really, it sucks. Hippies everywhere, lots of unsociable people, and ugliest chicks ever. GO STATE!

  • touche.

    but im pretty sure its harder to get into michigan than state.

    but they both have their good qualities. im done with all this negative talk. ill admit michgan state has a dope basketball team, but its not fair to call us their "little brother" unless they go on a 9 year winning streak.

  • Sure, I dont hate Michigan, just hate the Michigan people that act like retards. Michigan is good college and hard to get into, but State has some academic qualities that are equal or even better than Michigan in certain areas. You shouldnt really call us "little brother" either cuz you barely beat us when it's predicted that you'd kill us

  • Michigan State has the second best nuclear physics program in the country. I don't know about you, but when I hear "nuclear physics", I think of a farm college. MSU is rapidly gaining on UM academically, and already establishing dominance in basketball with an excellent program in hockey and a resurgent football team.

    Step aside, little sister.

  • Dont forget, #2 in Business for Supply Chain Management and Logistics.

  • No rivalry my ass.

    Have fun getting raped by Tebow.

    GO GREEN!

  • Why do you talk? MSU lost again.

  • Yes, we may have lost, but we were competitive the entire game. Just wait until New Years day...Oregon all over again.

    Have fun with Dick Rod at your helm now. He doesn't care one bit about the tradition at AA...after 4 years of subpar football he'll leave AA.

  • You may be right. At least michigan is in that game. Stop bringing up other teams becuase msu can't do the job.

  • UM 41 UF 35. Be silent until you have room to talk. Go BC.

  • hey dipshit we beat Tebow and i still see that you lost to BC so keep your mouth shut until you can actually beat us

  • why was there not a call on that he hit davis before he touched the ball

  • MSU will win today!

  • ehhhhhhh......NOT!

  • Go Blue

  • scumbags

  • Little brother.

  • Fuck you, I hate michigan fans like you. Go and ruin a rivalry by degrading the other team. Thats not showing your spirit for Michigan, thats just classless. Asshole...

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