Twilight conditions women to accept and desire an unhealthy and abusive relationship. Bella portrays women as weak, lost, and fragile until a man comes in to rescue her over and over again. And when the man is gone, she completely loses her mind. Not a far stretch from what mormons want. And I'm not surprised that this guy thinks its great.
I very much disagree with this video. Edward is possessive, stalker-like and sick as hell. And so is the relationship between those two. Ick. Very disappointing Mr. Molotov.
Ow damn, I think this guy found out where a lot of peoples sensitive parts are... Just look at the dislikes... I agree with em though except for Glenn Beck... I'm not so sure about him. He use to be a total jerk off that called people like he acts like now "nuts or wacko". Is he for real? Or is he just putting on that fake friend bs?
The story of Bella & Edward reflects our human need for unconditional love. Real love - love that is not just a warm fuzzy feeling, but an action verb - a committed act of the will to esteem someone as much or more than you esteem yourself.
Most of us never find this kind of love in a romantic relationship, but we can all find it in relationship with Jesus Christ.
No, no, no. Twilight is terrible , but making your strawman conservative character a fan is just taking it too far. It doesn't help our cause. I mean, yes, parody is one thing, but this is just outright ad hominem.
Ha ha, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he hates feminism and likes a book about a helpless girl who is easily manipulated and consents to be stalked by a sufficiently attractive male. Life would be easier for you if women were really like that, eh?
Finally something I agree with him on! While I hate the movie Twilight on it's own, the fact that it doesn't make people too incredibly slutty is definetly a plus. It's about time we finally... somewhat... agree on something... Not really, but still.
yeah he has no clue, blaming Obama for the economy is the same as thinking that God just suddenly put Gas stations, automobiles, computers and microwaves in everyone's homes that nothing happened before today to cause those to come into being. Christianist Fascists like this guy have a tendency to have no sense of history. Oh and when they say he has spent all this money, he hasn't even spent as much as Reagan did, look it up.
And what did Bella do by being abstinent? She took on suicidal tendencies because Edward dumped her. Abstaining from sex is fine, but if kids want to have sex, have sex. Just make SURE it's safe-sex.
For the record, I do NOT go to a vampire movie to see abstinent teens. I pay to see sexual undertones, because vampires are SUPPOSED to be erotic creatures. Dracula itself was written as an erotic novel. Two year veteran of Vampire: The Requiem, over and out.
Oh yes, you certainly aren't a misogynist, demanding respect and obedience from women isn't degrading. Twilight does not produce a good role model, since the protagonist is defined by her relationships. She has no character. She is only stable when she is with a man, and so lacks independence that when not in a relationship, she's ready to kill herself. Is that really behavior to be emulated?
@Myplasticdramas oh i don't know. like nearly how all of their encounters or actions are motivated by what he does or wants. he is too creepy for words
@morbideddie@morbideddie So basically; you don't have a clue. Have you ever even read Twilight? How about things Bella did against Edward's will? 1. Hung out with him. 2. Fell in love with him 3. Went to save her mother from James 4. Refused to leave him at the end of Twilight 5. Started hanging with Jacob 6. Began doing dangerous things because she knew he wouldn’t want her doing them 7. Took him back at the end of New Moon
@morbideddie 8. Tried to seduce him before they were married 9. Tried to see Jacob against his will 10. Had sex with him before she was immortal 11. Kept their baby 12. Became a vampire. These are just the ones off the top of my head. You should really think about what you're posting. You haters have a knack for knowing nothing about the comments you speak of.
@Myplasticdramas i started reading the 1st one a few years ago but it was to boring and stodgy for me to bother completing. my girlfriend made me watch the 1st film though. bella nearly kills herself when hees away, sounds like an independent woman to me. more like a domestic violence case waiting to happen. and when i follow a girl home and watch her sleep i fully expect to get maced
@morbideddie What a pity. I suppose reading skill does take some practice...
But yeah, I'm not going to say that Twilight's for everyone. Are you insinuating that if a girl becomes depressed over losing her loved one, it is then her fault if she's ever a victim of domestic violence in the future? If you've never even seen New Moon, do you even know why she jumps off the cliff? It's not like she wouldn't have done with Jacob eventually, even if she hadn't been trying to see Edward.
@Myplasticdramas lol. you say to a guy who read his dark materials and the silmarillion when he was 10. twilight books are poorly written to my eyes. maybe i'm just to used to fantasy/horror writing. and there's a difference between being depressed and nearly killing yourself. being depressed is normal. killing yourself shouldn't be, you think that paints a good message to younger children. and with the stalking its the thought that counts. its creepy, not romantic
@morbideddie Perhaps. I personally find it very well written, but I'm afraid we'll just have to disagree on this point; you can't change a person's taste in books by fighting with them over it.
I'm afraid you've made a very common mistake though; Bella wasn't trying to kill herself, as so many people who haven't read New Moon assume. She and Jacob were going to go cliff diving sometime anyway, she just didn't notice the storm coming. She was almost no longer depressed at this point anyway.
@Myplasticdramas even so it still comes across as suicide to everyone (including fans) ive talked to and if young children are watching that (a majority of the film fan base) they may get the wrong impression as alot do. see how that could be an issue
@morbideddie If the parents aren't taking care to make sure their children are mature enough before watching, that's their fault. It's just the same for every other movie. There are plenty of awful faults that most main-characters have, but nowhere near as many people crucify them for it. And if it had been suicide, why didn't she jump off a normal, water-less cliff, why was she smiling at first when she surfaced, and why did she start panicking when the waves drug her under?
@morbideddie Younger children should not be watching Twilight in my opinion anyway, if only for the language content; it IS rated PG-13 after all. And as for the stalking... LOL. Many girls fantasies about that sort of thing, and believe me, I have no idea why. HOWEVER: I am NOT suggesting that ANYONE try this out, at the very last without asking permission first. It's kinda illegal otherwise, LOL.
@Myplasticdramas over 13s are still vulnerable to things like that. teens and young adults are easily influenced by these things. a cliff by the sea because its more melodramatic and fear of getting dragged under because drowning is a much more painful death than being dashed on the rocks. not to mention lots of people often feel remorse after attempted suicide, people can take an overdose and then regret it as soon as they've done it. so to someone whos not read the book it can easily come a
@morbideddie Well then I suppose that's a darn-good reason to actually read the book or watch the movie to find out what's going on, instead of just assuming, isn't it? And everyone has a different opinion of when children should be able to watch movies this mature; you can't say that no one should watch something just because you personally believe young adults shouldn't.
@Myplasticdramas it dosn't matter. if it comes across in the film and you haven't read the books then its influenced you and i personally think twilight portrays one of the most disturbing messages i've seen. worse than swearing or gore ect. weather the books say something different or not it dosnt matter. thats like me writing a book about kittens and then making a horror film based on it and saying, oh well in the book its not like that
@morbideddie I'm afraid you misunderstood me: it isn't any different in the book than in the movie. She wasn't trying to kill herself. That's why I said "or watch the movie". And may I ask what disturbing message that is? And if you're talking about just seeing the commercial, I don't think they'd play a commercial with Bella jumping off the cliff (Not even sure that had one with that in it) on a kid's TV channel. I completely agree with what you're saying about the book and movie parallel.
@Myplasticdramas the disturbing message is being emotionally dependant while at to younger age where its very easy to get carried away and call a relationship love, stalking=love and the Christian propaganda that lies in the two not boning. i have no problem with Christians, on the contrary, but i think putting messages like that in a film aimed at teen and vulnerable girls is a bit odd and disturbing
@morbideddie Okay um, I'm not sure if this is a typo, but I'm having trouble understanding this sentence, so, do you suppose you could re-do it? Thanks: "and the Christian propaganda that lies in the two not boning". And do you not believe sixteen-year-old girls should date?
@Myplasticdramas sorry. essay questions were never my strong point at school. maths ftw. but what i meant is bella is ridiculously young to have found "the one" which and i think sets a bad example for other younger girls. they see her at such a young age and having only been in a relationship such a short time to be so attached and emotionally dependant they they think its normal and healthy at that age to be in such a relationship when in reality they don't understand how relationships work
@morbideddie As for the stalking... We never did find out why Edward was watching Bella sleep. It could have been because he was trying to read her mind, or that he was practicing not killing her, without the distraction of her doing things that make her smell even better. It also could have been that he was bored, and was trying to sort out his feelings for her. But the fact that he wouldn't sleep with her makes it hard for me to believe he was sitting there masturbating to her sleeping form.
@Myplasticdramas watching people sleep is creepy. if my girlfriend did that to me it would weird me out even though i know her well and she wouldn't have odd intentions. with a stranger who does it every night its more than a little odd
@morbideddie He's kinda a Vampire in love with a human... That's a bit odd too. lol And I suppose he probably thought that since she'd never catch him anyway, and he stood more of a chance of killing her accidentally than raping her, there'd be no harm.
I'm afraid we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the relationship point. It's too big a can of worms: I don't believe in dating for pleasure, I believe in dating to find who God wants you to marry. NP about the essay questions thing.
@Myplasticdramas im same in a way. i wouldn't date someone i couldn't see myself spending my life with. otherwise what's the point. may as well just be friends with benefits
@Myplasticdramas i am a Christian but more of a liberal. by that i mean i do my best to stick to the rules but if other people want to sin then its their choice, ill disagree with what they're doing but not intervene or try and stop them. unless its something like murder or stealing.but generally i think being preachy gets you now where, it just annoys people. my method is to be a good friend and hopefully they'l see not all Christians are stiffs and maybe give religion a chance
@morbideddie That's really cool man. I'm totally the same way. I only really tell my friends I'm against something they're doing that's wrong if I'm concerned for them and afraid they're going to get hurt. And I believe in letting God into your dating life completely, because, if He loves you enough to die, why wouldn't He love you enough to show you who you're supposed to be with? Christians were never meant to judge people; we're no better than them, and that's God's job.
@Myplasticdramas so true. some people put Christians as up their own arses, but its not always true. there are a few exceptions but its not like Christians are different to anyone else. enjoyed this little debate thing btw :)
@morbideddie :) Me too. I don't suppose I changed your mind about Twilight at all? The reason I debate so passionately about it is because I'm so sick of people, (Christians especially) hating it for completely assumed reasons. Stephenie Meyers honestly doesn't deserve all the hate that's thrown at her constantly.
@Myplasticdramas not really. fair play though. it gets allot of shit. my main reason its not something id watch is because i like to think of vampires in a more traditional sence ie sexy romantic maniacs as opposed to teenage romance
@morbideddie And I'm perfectly okay with people not wanting to watch it because it's not their "type" of Vamp. I've just had so many people (other Christians especially) in the last two years attack Twilight, (and me for liking it) because of reasons that don't apply, and the problem with those exaggerations, (like Bella ever being suicidal) is they spread like wild fire. I just want people to accept Twilight for what it is, and not go against it with such anger because of what they've heard.
@morbideddie P.S. : Bella already liked Edward a lot by the time he was watching her sleep, it wasn't like he was a stranger. And I won't condone that it was wrong for him to break and enter. LOL: one of the three reasons I'm Team Jacob I suppose....
@morbideddie Side note: I want to thank you for being reasonable about this. Most of the people out there just want to throw expletives or insults at me, and not even try to come up with a logical answer. It's nice to talk to someone a little more open-minded, and not just angry towards Twilight because everyone else is. Thank you. :)
@morbideddie And yeah... I'm not going to condone stalking, but it's not like mace would have effected Edward anyway, and he so would have never gotten caught, he just told her eventually and I think she was flattered... You should watch this though.
*Communist meaning: Pro-Abortionists,Social-Democrats,Social Liberals,Centrists,Libertarians, Homosexuals,Abortion Doctors, Teachers,ATHEISTS(Cue ghost sounds, also Ayn Rand was an atheist:DEAL WITH IT), apolitical people, non-mainstream monotheists(I.E. Christians,Muslims,or Jews-aka crap religions), essentially anything that doesn't align with your viewpoint.
For somebody so rabidly anti-"communist"* why did you name yourself after a reprehensible Soviet premier(He authorized the massacre of Poles at Katyn LOLMASSMURDER, also he never regretted what he did) and put up a picture of an AK-47 when talking about armed mormons? Why is the AK important, you ask?
AK means "Avtomat Kalashnikova" Automatic Kalashnikov. Kalashnikov was a Soviet arms producer, and designed things for the Communist Soviet army. Why didn't you show the FREEDOM PATRIOT M16????
@s14e30 I think that he named himself molotov because the Poles named the cocktail of gasoline that they were throwing at the communists Molotovs as a joke.
As for the Ak it is the "poormans" rifle and he believes that it would be the rich vs the poor in this so called civil war.
I don't like the guy either but get your facts straight.
I get sick of this kind of stealth parody bullshit.
Trying to make right wing people look bad by doing a comically exaggerated, deranged version of their opinions.
Oh yeah, right wing people are so stupid they think Twilight is a good film! Pleeeease! If videos like this want to attack right wing people, at least make real arguments rather then cheap jibes at the right like this trashy video.
most of the people that watched twilight are teenage girls, and they only care about team Edward or team Jacob, not all this political jargon you associate with the film. And I'm not even going to get in to the degradation of women that you have clearly implicated.
Did you like the part in the 'Twilight' series where the werewolf is all hot and bothered over the vampire baby? It's good to see that your taste in bullshit extends to bullshit books.
My xwife was a Mormon she banged a least a dozen other guys while we were married most of whom she met at her church. I think mormons are a bunch of hypocritical douches. It amazes me how religious people go around yelling we are good people and think that somehow makes them good people then they immediately get drunk and have sex with a stranger and then tell a gay person they are an abomination.
More like twilight promotes obsessive and possessive behaviours in patriarchal society. The books are more disturbing than anything if you read between the lines and think about the fact that stephenie meyer is a mormon. Sorry if people disagree, i just respect women enough to not want to go back to times similar to when Jane Austen was alive.
@wildvenisson Maybe you shouldn't read in between the lines of the books so much. It was ment to be a story for people ot enjoy. Not a throw back to the times of Jane Austen. Your acting like Bella isnt the driving force making her own decisions and edwards to, cause she is. You may respect women but not enough if your seeing stuff in the books that's not even there.
@kittybr I like your comment but I'm studying Literature in my degree and from what I've read for the past 100 years of more if you don't read between the lines you get sucked in. It's ideology working at it's best when you don't realise what you are acknowledging and recognising. This may be arguing about language but it is impossible to make someone elses decision for them, you may influence them a great deal but it is always their decision else there was never a decision for them to make.
@wildvenisson While you may be studying Literature in your degree, if you do read between the lines on everything you read, you can come up with some crazy stuff. Like for example twilight, it could be encouraging a female ruled world. I mean take Bella for example. Everything that happens pretty much happens because SHE wants it. Not Edward, not Jacob but Bella. So yeah reading between the lines while may be part of your degree can be very bad in putting things there that really arnt there.
@kittybr So you're seriously telling me that the average woman would tolerate having her car engine taken out of her car deliberately stopping her from making a choice, being watched while she sleeps e.t.c. There are whole lists of quotes such as when Bella saying "In what strange parallel dimension would I ever have gone to prom of my own free will? If you weren't a thousand times stronger than me, I would never have let you get away with this." w w w . s q u i d o o . c o m / cullenabuse
@wildvenisson You'd be surprised what women or men for that matter will tolerate from the person they love. I mean after all look at all the abused women/men in th world and their reasons for staying withs omeone. It isnt because they're stronger than them, it's because they Love them. But then again sites like that which you posted the link to is about the so called abuse of the bella, It doesnt take into account all the stuff that bella does to Edward that makes him go nuts.
@kittybr So that's an excuse to keep in a weak female character? As for the things that make Edward go nuts, that's no excuse either. Submissive attitudes do not constitute a reason to be tolerant towards people. It's the reason why men who actually care about how they treat people get pissed off when they see a woman being treated badly. On that web page it does have quotes of Edwards agrivation which he to some degree takes out on Bella.
@wildvenisson im kind of confused. i dnt really like twilight bcuz i think its too easy to obsess over plus i've alway thought tht vampires are lame, but wat do yu mean by "times simiar to wen Jane Austen was alive" i dnt kno much about twilight so i dnt really understand
@mysecret223 In Jane Austen's time, women's rights were severely restricted to the point where they were owned by the men they were related to. Marriage vows still included ownership of a woman. Also women were only allowed certain employment, one of the most likely being a governess, a woman presiding over the servants and looking after the house of a rich man for very little money. Basically it was an accepted situation that all women were under the thumb of a man.
@mysecret223 I think I explained this to someone else in the comments section of this video before. If nothing else just google "twilight abusive relationship" and read up on it. Basically the book makes things that would otherwise be considered creepy or abusive sound more acceptable. Also do your research on mormonism.
The issue I had with twilight was the lack of self-confidence of the main character who defines herself by who she is in 'love' with. Also, the form of 'love' showcased in twilight looks more like addiction to me.
I'll give them the abstinence issue--- but on every other point about relationships, the series fails. Horribly. The relationships are abusive, neglectful, and fraught with dysfunctional obsession. (The girl even nearly kills herself at one point just so she can catch a glimpse of her vampire lover...)
Christians frequently resort to threats of Hell when people act in ways they don’t approve. This is because at the end of the day, that is all they have. They can’t persuade someone to change their behavior with logical discourse, because they can’t reasonably support their position. So, they threaten with childish fantasies of revenge and torment upon their imagined enemies. It is really pathetic when you think about it.
@DEricKesler i prefer to leave cooments with logical responses. so lets take the gays for example. they are an abomination that spreads disease. lets look at some of those diseases.
AIDS
Herpes
Hepatitis
Gonarhea
Not to mention the fact that 25% of gay hookups result in ingesting feces(shit) which results in gay bowel disease.
And 3/4 of gay hookups result in the swallowing of semen.
I find it interesting that you immediately wanted to talk about homosexuality. Do you think about gay sex a whole lot?
Homosexuality is not an abomination, because in order for something to be considered an abomination an offended deity is required. Since there is no evidence to support the existence of any gods or fairies or unicorns, the idea that anything is an abomination is rendered null and void.
@AceofSpad3sking1994 Tell me how any of these statistics relate to lesbians (gay women.) You can't. Because we have the highest rate of monogamy and the lowest rate of STD transmission. We are everything right with sexual humanity!
Threats? Warning someone that they're walking the wrong path is hardly a threat, what happens to non-Christians doesn't affect me, but I will tell them the truth for their sake nonetheless.
@AtheistTower Imagine your neighbor comes over and tells you that he has just finished constructing a torture chamber in his basement. He plans to use this facility to punish his children should they fail to love him. He has a deadline for his children to start expressing their love for him, but he is keeping this date a secret. He says he does not want to do it, but he may have to torture most of his kids forever and ever.
Does this scenario describe the actions of a loving and moral father?
Who said anything about torture? If you reject God, you are separated from him for eternity (sounds reasonable to me), if you accept him you get to spend an eternity with him. There's nothing neither unfair or illogical about that. You get exactly what you want in the end.
Matthew 25:46 describes Hell as eternal punishment. So, to answer your question, one of the writers of Matthew said something about torture.
You say that this eternity of god given torture is a reasonable consequence of rejecting the alleged son of the alleged Abrahamic god. I disagree. As described in the biblical texts, God is a mafia boss handing out broken knee caps if you fail to pay for his protection.
Thankfully, this vile scenario is not supported by any evidence.
The torture is merely the fact that you're completely separated from God. The fiery images of hell presented in the bible are simply metaphors for the concept of hell, the gnashing of teeth comes from the internal regret.
How is God a mafia boss? He sacrificed his son just so that each of us can righteously enter heaven, if God is perfect it's a logical requirement for him to have perfect standards from us, no matter how unfair that sounds to you.
@AtheistTower God created a universe in which all of us are alleged to be born in sin. In order to atone for this crime, God sent an aspect of himself to suffer through a barbaric ritual of torture. This blood rite somehow magically atones for the original sin if we but willingly submit to his tyranny.
The whole scenario is built upon the faulty premise that I am guilty of some sort of crime that transpired prior to my birth. I reject that absurd accusation.
Clearly you misunderstand the whole sacrifice. It wasn't about being nailed to a cross, that's merely a symbol of what was going on, it was Christ taking the spiritual burden of our sins.
You are only guilty of what you have consciously done in your own lifetime, and I can bet over my own life that you're not perfect, the fact that you live your daily life without gratitude to the one who gives you everything is a sin unto itself.
@AtheistTower I’ve certainly committed transgressions against other human beings. In such cases, the right action is to make amends with the wronged party. In your mythology, one can commit horrible actions against others and then ignore the wronged party, seeking forgiveness through the agency of the magical scapegoat.
As far as the suggestion that one can transgress against an omnipotent and omniscient tyrant, I dismiss as absurd. What a small and petty and capricious God you have.
Does this God that you follow oppose big words? Does he fear a well rounded vocabulary?
The Abrahamic God is credited with creating all the different languages in order to confound humanity. God, according to the myth of the Tower of Babel, knew that if humans could clearly communicate with one another would be able to accomplish anything that they imagined.
Of course, linguistic studies have demonstrated that the origin of languages can't traced to Mesopotamia.
@AtheistTower First, you say that the flames of hell are metaphorical and then you say that the death of Jesus was symbolic. Is there nothing of substance within your holy books? Is it nothing more than elusive allegory and metaphor and symbolism? If nothing in your mythology is concrete, how can you confidently state anything with any measure of certainty?
@AtheistTower The mythical sacrifice of Jesus was hardly a sacrifice at all. It would be easy to volunteer for such torture and death if you knew that you would eternally save people that you care about. Especially, if you knew that it in three days time you would be up and running around again as if nothing had ever happened.
The United States of America is a secular nation. The Founding Fathers did not even mention God in either the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Furthermore, they did not create any laws or issue any proclamations to promote or protect the Christian faith. There is not one single legal document that can be cited as legal precedent or that is considered binding in a court of law that supports the claim that the United States of America is a Christian nation.
First off, there won’t be any civil war in the United States of America. Please lay off the fear mongering.
Secondly, the character of Bella is an abused woman. Edward is the abuser. Jacob is a pedophile. However, you don’t care about any of that as long as no one has the horrible pre-marital sex. As is often the case, you morals are all fucked up.
Huh?!! You're kidding, right? I mean, Mormonism is a satanic cult; and the "Twilight" series is based on satanic stories about vampires. Not exactly things that born-again believers in Jesus Christ should be promoting.
Isn't mormonism a part of christianity? Also, vampires are not necessarily satanic, the story is not satanic, it's a love story. (A bad one, but not satanic). However, it gave birth to Cullenism, which is dictionary-definition satanic :P
The ONLY reason Twilight is popular is because millions of girls, from 12 year olds to their mothers want to fuck Edward and Jacob RIGHT NOW. Not when they have their magical wedding. Did you know that they sell Twilight brand dildos, fleshlights, and even underwear? Yeah, underwear. With Edwards mouth on the inside. On the crotch. Because abstinence obviously.
When the SHTF and the world is in chaos, a famous author once commented that the only two organizations that could survive mass anarchy and chaos are the Mormons and the Masons. It's an interesting thought.
As far as Twilight goes - dunno. Haven't seen the movies or read the books - I am tired of the whole Vampire infatuation.
how is this promoting decency he has to drain her of life so they can be together its a very anti-woman piece of literature she has to give up everything to be with him. There is nothing decent or normal about that. Any relationship where you have to give up everything while the partner gives up nothing is unhealthy
"We are thinking" - muahahahahahaha! That's a great joke! You, Sir, are classic!
Defending Twilight, though? Seriously? How low can you actually sink? :D
And you and Glen Beck? I wonder what sweet secret you two manly dudes share - is there another "rightwingnutjob&religulousbigotactually isoneofthegay"-scandal on the horizon?
uuuuuuh - I'm getting all giddy just *thinking* about that possibility! :D :D :D
@commanderkruge I find it incredibly ironic that liberals such as yourself tout how you stand up for gays and minorities, but you're the first person to accuse conservatives of being gay like its a derrogitory insult.
Twilight advices teenage girls to be completely dependent on a completely irresponsible man. Which usually ends in the man fucking her silly, and her self-esteem ruined. Hate women? Read Twilight.
is a civil war breaks out, you'll be a pussy and run for your life, because you don't have faith your God's prayers will protect you. Twilight glorifies non-humans, because they know humans are doomed, sinful and God-hating.
there is one major flaw in your argument. Twilight sucks dick beyond belief. Not a good film, not a good video and you're not a good person. you're an idiot
edward does nothing but disrespect bella. edward stalks bella and breaks into her house and watches over her when she sleeps. he breaks her car when she wants to go visit her friend and also just leaves her out in the middle of the woods to fend for herself. you need to read the books before you praise something blindly. watch the new south park episode. human beings are wired to be sexual creatures. having sex with multiple partners should not be consider slutty or whorish. just natural.
Aren't feminists supposed to be real tightasses, though? I wonder what a feminist movie would be like.
Edward Cullen attempts to teach men to be gay sissies.
MyTotalRemedy 1 month ago
He's not embarrassed at all that he loves Twilight.
MyTotalRemedy 1 month ago
Lols armed hehehe.
chrstilen5 1 month ago
Twilight conditions women to accept and desire an unhealthy and abusive relationship. Bella portrays women as weak, lost, and fragile until a man comes in to rescue her over and over again. And when the man is gone, she completely loses her mind. Not a far stretch from what mormons want. And I'm not surprised that this guy thinks its great.
Gaytheist13 1 month ago
On top of all your idiotic political and social ideas you're also a twilight fan? Man, you just can't get any worse can you?
ShadowPrometheus 1 month ago
Do a video on glenn beck!
MrZombieSir03 2 months ago
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
TWILIGHT
Zerephai 2 months ago
Here's the thing... VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE IN THE SUN!!! THEY EITHER HAVE A DEADLY SEIZURE, OR THEY CATCH ON FIRE!!! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO DRACULA?!
dameon692002 3 months ago
I very much disagree with this video. Edward is possessive, stalker-like and sick as hell. And so is the relationship between those two. Ick. Very disappointing Mr. Molotov.
stockinettestitch 5 months ago
Ow damn, I think this guy found out where a lot of peoples sensitive parts are... Just look at the dislikes... I agree with em though except for Glenn Beck... I'm not so sure about him. He use to be a total jerk off that called people like he acts like now "nuts or wacko". Is he for real? Or is he just putting on that fake friend bs?
freakman420 5 months ago
Vampires are ridiculous. I am boycotting all vampire-related materials.
They keep changing all the rules, they are totally gay, not consistent...
TheLoyalOfficer 5 months ago
Twilight sells sex in a way that is pg-13.
Gazerich 6 months ago
Love it!
The story of Bella & Edward reflects our human need for unconditional love. Real love - love that is not just a warm fuzzy feeling, but an action verb - a committed act of the will to esteem someone as much or more than you esteem yourself.
Most of us never find this kind of love in a romantic relationship, but we can all find it in relationship with Jesus Christ.
LogicRulestheDay 6 months ago
LOL
zzanzak 6 months ago
Bella and Edward fuck..
Is there no video on this fucking channel that isn't
just your dribbeling ass talking a bunch of shit?
I've watched a few of them and I think in every video I find
atleast 5 - 10 just flat out bullshit lies.
HelloPhixy 7 months ago
@HelloPhixy and yet you're still watching. who's really the one dribbling?
jbbremerton 6 months ago
This guy is actually for serious?
nivekeryas 7 months ago
No, no, no. Twilight is terrible , but making your strawman conservative character a fan is just taking it too far. It doesn't help our cause. I mean, yes, parody is one thing, but this is just outright ad hominem.
Deadboltt 9 months ago
Ha ha, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he hates feminism and likes a book about a helpless girl who is easily manipulated and consents to be stalked by a sufficiently attractive male. Life would be easier for you if women were really like that, eh?
LanceDirk 9 months ago
This guy is either insane or one of the greatest satirist to walk the earth.
morbo586 9 months ago
nice to know this guy would be the first to cower behind someone if there was civil war while the rest of us fight for his freedom.
johndebbra 9 months ago
Never saw twilight. Don't like Obama.
terrydribble 10 months ago
Finally something I agree with him on! While I hate the movie Twilight on it's own, the fact that it doesn't make people too incredibly slutty is definetly a plus. It's about time we finally... somewhat... agree on something... Not really, but still.
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago 7
so mormons and vampires good, gays still bad. okay, i got it.
AVINATION 10 months ago
yeah he has no clue, blaming Obama for the economy is the same as thinking that God just suddenly put Gas stations, automobiles, computers and microwaves in everyone's homes that nothing happened before today to cause those to come into being. Christianist Fascists like this guy have a tendency to have no sense of history. Oh and when they say he has spent all this money, he hasn't even spent as much as Reagan did, look it up.
the1tigglet 11 months ago
LOL!
Danthemanlyman7 1 year ago
Love this!!!! XD
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
are you suggesting feminists don't want women to demand respect from men? Do you know what a feminist is?
soterios11 1 year ago
And what did Bella do by being abstinent? She took on suicidal tendencies because Edward dumped her. Abstaining from sex is fine, but if kids want to have sex, have sex. Just make SURE it's safe-sex.
For the record, I do NOT go to a vampire movie to see abstinent teens. I pay to see sexual undertones, because vampires are SUPPOSED to be erotic creatures. Dracula itself was written as an erotic novel. Two year veteran of Vampire: The Requiem, over and out.
JustPhilNY 1 year ago
Oh yes, you certainly aren't a misogynist, demanding respect and obedience from women isn't degrading. Twilight does not produce a good role model, since the protagonist is defined by her relationships. She has no character. She is only stable when she is with a man, and so lacks independence that when not in a relationship, she's ready to kill herself. Is that really behavior to be emulated?
ZPM7 1 year ago 2
how does twilight teach respect, it teaches women to be submissive and promotes stalking as romance
morbideddie 1 year ago 3
@morbideddie Submissive? When the HELL was Bella EVER submissive to Edward?
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas oh i don't know. like nearly how all of their encounters or actions are motivated by what he does or wants. he is too creepy for words
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie @morbideddie So basically; you don't have a clue. Have you ever even read Twilight? How about things Bella did against Edward's will? 1. Hung out with him. 2. Fell in love with him 3. Went to save her mother from James 4. Refused to leave him at the end of Twilight 5. Started hanging with Jacob 6. Began doing dangerous things because she knew he wouldn’t want her doing them 7. Took him back at the end of New Moon
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
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@morbideddie 8. Tried to seduce him before they were married 9. Tried to see Jacob against his will 10. Had sex with him before she was immortal 11. Kept their baby 12. Became a vampire. These are just the ones off the top of my head. You should really think about what you're posting. You haters have a knack for knowing nothing about the comments you speak of.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas i started reading the 1st one a few years ago but it was to boring and stodgy for me to bother completing. my girlfriend made me watch the 1st film though. bella nearly kills herself when hees away, sounds like an independent woman to me. more like a domestic violence case waiting to happen. and when i follow a girl home and watch her sleep i fully expect to get maced
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie What a pity. I suppose reading skill does take some practice...
But yeah, I'm not going to say that Twilight's for everyone. Are you insinuating that if a girl becomes depressed over losing her loved one, it is then her fault if she's ever a victim of domestic violence in the future? If you've never even seen New Moon, do you even know why she jumps off the cliff? It's not like she wouldn't have done with Jacob eventually, even if she hadn't been trying to see Edward.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas lol. you say to a guy who read his dark materials and the silmarillion when he was 10. twilight books are poorly written to my eyes. maybe i'm just to used to fantasy/horror writing. and there's a difference between being depressed and nearly killing yourself. being depressed is normal. killing yourself shouldn't be, you think that paints a good message to younger children. and with the stalking its the thought that counts. its creepy, not romantic
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie Perhaps. I personally find it very well written, but I'm afraid we'll just have to disagree on this point; you can't change a person's taste in books by fighting with them over it.
I'm afraid you've made a very common mistake though; Bella wasn't trying to kill herself, as so many people who haven't read New Moon assume. She and Jacob were going to go cliff diving sometime anyway, she just didn't notice the storm coming. She was almost no longer depressed at this point anyway.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas even so it still comes across as suicide to everyone (including fans) ive talked to and if young children are watching that (a majority of the film fan base) they may get the wrong impression as alot do. see how that could be an issue
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie If the parents aren't taking care to make sure their children are mature enough before watching, that's their fault. It's just the same for every other movie. There are plenty of awful faults that most main-characters have, but nowhere near as many people crucify them for it. And if it had been suicide, why didn't she jump off a normal, water-less cliff, why was she smiling at first when she surfaced, and why did she start panicking when the waves drug her under?
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@morbideddie Younger children should not be watching Twilight in my opinion anyway, if only for the language content; it IS rated PG-13 after all. And as for the stalking... LOL. Many girls fantasies about that sort of thing, and believe me, I have no idea why. HOWEVER: I am NOT suggesting that ANYONE try this out, at the very last without asking permission first. It's kinda illegal otherwise, LOL.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas over 13s are still vulnerable to things like that. teens and young adults are easily influenced by these things. a cliff by the sea because its more melodramatic and fear of getting dragged under because drowning is a much more painful death than being dashed on the rocks. not to mention lots of people often feel remorse after attempted suicide, people can take an overdose and then regret it as soon as they've done it. so to someone whos not read the book it can easily come a
morbideddie 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas across as her killing herself
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie Well then I suppose that's a darn-good reason to actually read the book or watch the movie to find out what's going on, instead of just assuming, isn't it? And everyone has a different opinion of when children should be able to watch movies this mature; you can't say that no one should watch something just because you personally believe young adults shouldn't.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas it dosn't matter. if it comes across in the film and you haven't read the books then its influenced you and i personally think twilight portrays one of the most disturbing messages i've seen. worse than swearing or gore ect. weather the books say something different or not it dosnt matter. thats like me writing a book about kittens and then making a horror film based on it and saying, oh well in the book its not like that
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie I'm afraid you misunderstood me: it isn't any different in the book than in the movie. She wasn't trying to kill herself. That's why I said "or watch the movie". And may I ask what disturbing message that is? And if you're talking about just seeing the commercial, I don't think they'd play a commercial with Bella jumping off the cliff (Not even sure that had one with that in it) on a kid's TV channel. I completely agree with what you're saying about the book and movie parallel.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas the disturbing message is being emotionally dependant while at to younger age where its very easy to get carried away and call a relationship love, stalking=love and the Christian propaganda that lies in the two not boning. i have no problem with Christians, on the contrary, but i think putting messages like that in a film aimed at teen and vulnerable girls is a bit odd and disturbing
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie Okay um, I'm not sure if this is a typo, but I'm having trouble understanding this sentence, so, do you suppose you could re-do it? Thanks: "and the Christian propaganda that lies in the two not boning". And do you not believe sixteen-year-old girls should date?
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas sorry. essay questions were never my strong point at school. maths ftw. but what i meant is bella is ridiculously young to have found "the one" which and i think sets a bad example for other younger girls. they see her at such a young age and having only been in a relationship such a short time to be so attached and emotionally dependant they they think its normal and healthy at that age to be in such a relationship when in reality they don't understand how relationships work
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie As for the stalking... We never did find out why Edward was watching Bella sleep. It could have been because he was trying to read her mind, or that he was practicing not killing her, without the distraction of her doing things that make her smell even better. It also could have been that he was bored, and was trying to sort out his feelings for her. But the fact that he wouldn't sleep with her makes it hard for me to believe he was sitting there masturbating to her sleeping form.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas watching people sleep is creepy. if my girlfriend did that to me it would weird me out even though i know her well and she wouldn't have odd intentions. with a stranger who does it every night its more than a little odd
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie He's kinda a Vampire in love with a human... That's a bit odd too. lol And I suppose he probably thought that since she'd never catch him anyway, and he stood more of a chance of killing her accidentally than raping her, there'd be no harm.
I'm afraid we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the relationship point. It's too big a can of worms: I don't believe in dating for pleasure, I believe in dating to find who God wants you to marry. NP about the essay questions thing.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas im same in a way. i wouldn't date someone i couldn't see myself spending my life with. otherwise what's the point. may as well just be friends with benefits
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie That's pretty cool. So if you're not a Christian what are your beliefs? If you don't mind my asking...
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas i am a Christian but more of a liberal. by that i mean i do my best to stick to the rules but if other people want to sin then its their choice, ill disagree with what they're doing but not intervene or try and stop them. unless its something like murder or stealing.but generally i think being preachy gets you now where, it just annoys people. my method is to be a good friend and hopefully they'l see not all Christians are stiffs and maybe give religion a chance
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie That's really cool man. I'm totally the same way. I only really tell my friends I'm against something they're doing that's wrong if I'm concerned for them and afraid they're going to get hurt. And I believe in letting God into your dating life completely, because, if He loves you enough to die, why wouldn't He love you enough to show you who you're supposed to be with? Christians were never meant to judge people; we're no better than them, and that's God's job.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas so true. some people put Christians as up their own arses, but its not always true. there are a few exceptions but its not like Christians are different to anyone else. enjoyed this little debate thing btw :)
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie :) Me too. I don't suppose I changed your mind about Twilight at all? The reason I debate so passionately about it is because I'm so sick of people, (Christians especially) hating it for completely assumed reasons. Stephenie Meyers honestly doesn't deserve all the hate that's thrown at her constantly.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas not really. fair play though. it gets allot of shit. my main reason its not something id watch is because i like to think of vampires in a more traditional sence ie sexy romantic maniacs as opposed to teenage romance
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie And I'm perfectly okay with people not wanting to watch it because it's not their "type" of Vamp. I've just had so many people (other Christians especially) in the last two years attack Twilight, (and me for liking it) because of reasons that don't apply, and the problem with those exaggerations, (like Bella ever being suicidal) is they spread like wild fire. I just want people to accept Twilight for what it is, and not go against it with such anger because of what they've heard.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@morbideddie P.S. : Bella already liked Edward a lot by the time he was watching her sleep, it wasn't like he was a stranger. And I won't condone that it was wrong for him to break and enter. LOL: one of the three reasons I'm Team Jacob I suppose....
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@morbideddie Side note: I want to thank you for being reasonable about this. Most of the people out there just want to throw expletives or insults at me, and not even try to come up with a logical answer. It's nice to talk to someone a little more open-minded, and not just angry towards Twilight because everyone else is. Thank you. :)
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@Myplasticdramas don't worry about it :)
morbideddie 1 year ago
@morbideddie I did do a normal reply too, underneath that last one, just so ya know.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
@morbideddie And yeah... I'm not going to condone stalking, but it's not like mace would have effected Edward anyway, and he so would have never gotten caught, he just told her eventually and I think she was flattered... You should watch this though.
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
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Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
Twilight - where vampires sparkle :) hahahahahaha
MrNaois 1 year ago
*Communist meaning: Pro-Abortionists,Social-Democrats,Social Liberals,Centrists,Libertarians, Homosexuals,Abortion Doctors, Teachers,ATHEISTS(Cue ghost sounds, also Ayn Rand was an atheist:DEAL WITH IT), apolitical people, non-mainstream monotheists(I.E. Christians,Muslims,or Jews-aka crap religions), essentially anything that doesn't align with your viewpoint.
s14e30 1 year ago
For somebody so rabidly anti-"communist"* why did you name yourself after a reprehensible Soviet premier(He authorized the massacre of Poles at Katyn LOLMASSMURDER, also he never regretted what he did) and put up a picture of an AK-47 when talking about armed mormons? Why is the AK important, you ask?
AK means "Avtomat Kalashnikova" Automatic Kalashnikov. Kalashnikov was a Soviet arms producer, and designed things for the Communist Soviet army. Why didn't you show the FREEDOM PATRIOT M16????
s14e30 1 year ago
@s14e30 I think that he named himself molotov because the Poles named the cocktail of gasoline that they were throwing at the communists Molotovs as a joke.
As for the Ak it is the "poormans" rifle and he believes that it would be the rich vs the poor in this so called civil war.
I don't like the guy either but get your facts straight.
AceofSpad3sking1994 1 year ago
hahahahaha this fuck head loves twilight, he really is a completly lost cause.
archofthedark 1 year ago
say what you want i still hate twilight
ridener13 1 year ago
Glen Beck and I.
dactyif 1 year ago
I get sick of this kind of stealth parody bullshit.
Trying to make right wing people look bad by doing a comically exaggerated, deranged version of their opinions.
Oh yeah, right wing people are so stupid they think Twilight is a good film! Pleeeease! If videos like this want to attack right wing people, at least make real arguments rather then cheap jibes at the right like this trashy video.
funkydanieluk 1 year ago
most of the people that watched twilight are teenage girls, and they only care about team Edward or team Jacob, not all this political jargon you associate with the film. And I'm not even going to get in to the degradation of women that you have clearly implicated.
sdp121 1 year ago
you are against: feminism homosexuality black people mexicans aisans people who arent white and PROGRESS and abortion.
brainslurper 1 year ago
Did you like the part in the 'Twilight' series where the werewolf is all hot and bothered over the vampire baby? It's good to see that your taste in bullshit extends to bullshit books.
MongoMcMichael 1 year ago
Yeah. Everybody who doesn't live like you think they should is miserable because they're not like you. I'm sure there's a ton of evidence for that.
Seleteles 1 year ago
you are one seriously dumb fucker.
yblocthegreat 1 year ago
@yblocthegreat dude, not cool. hes mentally handicapped
brainslurper 1 year ago
My xwife was a Mormon she banged a least a dozen other guys while we were married most of whom she met at her church. I think mormons are a bunch of hypocritical douches. It amazes me how religious people go around yelling we are good people and think that somehow makes them good people then they immediately get drunk and have sex with a stranger and then tell a gay person they are an abomination.
kausidya 1 year ago
I Love this guy he is so awesome
sjmcas2007 1 year ago
Bella spent most of the time trying to get in sparkly's trowsers and turn her...
RockJosiah 1 year ago 2
Fuck this christian Motherfucker and Twilight is fucking gay
MrZuesThunder 1 year ago
More like twilight promotes obsessive and possessive behaviours in patriarchal society. The books are more disturbing than anything if you read between the lines and think about the fact that stephenie meyer is a mormon. Sorry if people disagree, i just respect women enough to not want to go back to times similar to when Jane Austen was alive.
wildvenisson 1 year ago 22
@wildvenisson Maybe you shouldn't read in between the lines of the books so much. It was ment to be a story for people ot enjoy. Not a throw back to the times of Jane Austen. Your acting like Bella isnt the driving force making her own decisions and edwards to, cause she is. You may respect women but not enough if your seeing stuff in the books that's not even there.
kittybr 1 year ago
@kittybr I like your comment but I'm studying Literature in my degree and from what I've read for the past 100 years of more if you don't read between the lines you get sucked in. It's ideology working at it's best when you don't realise what you are acknowledging and recognising. This may be arguing about language but it is impossible to make someone elses decision for them, you may influence them a great deal but it is always their decision else there was never a decision for them to make.
wildvenisson 1 year ago
@wildvenisson While you may be studying Literature in your degree, if you do read between the lines on everything you read, you can come up with some crazy stuff. Like for example twilight, it could be encouraging a female ruled world. I mean take Bella for example. Everything that happens pretty much happens because SHE wants it. Not Edward, not Jacob but Bella. So yeah reading between the lines while may be part of your degree can be very bad in putting things there that really arnt there.
kittybr 1 year ago
@kittybr So you're seriously telling me that the average woman would tolerate having her car engine taken out of her car deliberately stopping her from making a choice, being watched while she sleeps e.t.c. There are whole lists of quotes such as when Bella saying "In what strange parallel dimension would I ever have gone to prom of my own free will? If you weren't a thousand times stronger than me, I would never have let you get away with this." w w w . s q u i d o o . c o m / cullenabuse
wildvenisson 1 year ago
@wildvenisson You'd be surprised what women or men for that matter will tolerate from the person they love. I mean after all look at all the abused women/men in th world and their reasons for staying withs omeone. It isnt because they're stronger than them, it's because they Love them. But then again sites like that which you posted the link to is about the so called abuse of the bella, It doesnt take into account all the stuff that bella does to Edward that makes him go nuts.
kittybr 1 year ago
@kittybr So that's an excuse to keep in a weak female character? As for the things that make Edward go nuts, that's no excuse either. Submissive attitudes do not constitute a reason to be tolerant towards people. It's the reason why men who actually care about how they treat people get pissed off when they see a woman being treated badly. On that web page it does have quotes of Edwards agrivation which he to some degree takes out on Bella.
wildvenisson 1 year ago
@wildvenisson Man, you are one flaming fucking mangina white knight motherfucker.
itachi705 9 months ago
@itachi705 I like the Mighty Boosh reference :). Remind me not cross a guy named after a fictional homicidal ninja lol.
wildvenisson 9 months ago
@wildvenisson im kind of confused. i dnt really like twilight bcuz i think its too easy to obsess over plus i've alway thought tht vampires are lame, but wat do yu mean by "times simiar to wen Jane Austen was alive" i dnt kno much about twilight so i dnt really understand
mysecret223 8 months ago
@mysecret223 In Jane Austen's time, women's rights were severely restricted to the point where they were owned by the men they were related to. Marriage vows still included ownership of a woman. Also women were only allowed certain employment, one of the most likely being a governess, a woman presiding over the servants and looking after the house of a rich man for very little money. Basically it was an accepted situation that all women were under the thumb of a man.
wildvenisson 8 months ago
@wildvenisson alrite, well then wat does that have to do with twilight. like i said, i dnt kno much about twilight so i dnt understand.
mysecret223 8 months ago
@mysecret223 I think I explained this to someone else in the comments section of this video before. If nothing else just google "twilight abusive relationship" and read up on it. Basically the book makes things that would otherwise be considered creepy or abusive sound more acceptable. Also do your research on mormonism.
wildvenisson 8 months ago 3
WHere did you steal the first clip of music from? Was it Breaking Bad or Deadwood? Either way, eat shit and die.
LuthianLightbriger 1 year ago
don't know if I can trust someone who thinks I'm a spirit brother of Satan.
jesusfreakrkg 1 year ago
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Fuck Twilight
seven47katana 1 year ago
After watching a few videos, I'm convinced that this guy is a parody.
ryanmshepard92 1 year ago 13
@ryanmshepard92 nope hes for real and a lot of people buy his bullshit
classicgamerguy112 1 year ago
The issue I had with twilight was the lack of self-confidence of the main character who defines herself by who she is in 'love' with. Also, the form of 'love' showcased in twilight looks more like addiction to me.
3mberfox 1 year ago
I'll give them the abstinence issue--- but on every other point about relationships, the series fails. Horribly. The relationships are abusive, neglectful, and fraught with dysfunctional obsession. (The girl even nearly kills herself at one point just so she can catch a glimpse of her vampire lover...)
RHJunior 1 year ago
Whhhhaaaat?
Twilight is...
I give up. -.-
blackshade9 1 year ago
WHAT THE BLOODY DEAL WITH TWLIGHT?!
why everyone.....ah forget it!
MEGAGUY21 1 year ago
did this guy just blame Obama for the economy. Where has he been the last decade.
tetsuo360 1 year ago 9
@tetsuo360 hes been in a better economy! lol
a2redneck 10 months ago
@tetsuo360
Kenya.
Chickelope555555 10 months ago
So...you support an angst-ridden girl who is non self-reliant and dumber than sand, while she decides between necrophilia and bestiality?
darkwarrior000 1 year ago 2
Christians frequently resort to threats of Hell when people act in ways they don’t approve. This is because at the end of the day, that is all they have. They can’t persuade someone to change their behavior with logical discourse, because they can’t reasonably support their position. So, they threaten with childish fantasies of revenge and torment upon their imagined enemies. It is really pathetic when you think about it.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@DEricKesler i prefer to leave cooments with logical responses. so lets take the gays for example. they are an abomination that spreads disease. lets look at some of those diseases.
AIDS
Herpes
Hepatitis
Gonarhea
Not to mention the fact that 25% of gay hookups result in ingesting feces(shit) which results in gay bowel disease.
And 3/4 of gay hookups result in the swallowing of semen.
Nowtell me that that is not an abomination.
AceofSpad3sking1994 1 year ago
@AceofSpad3sking1994
I find it interesting that you immediately wanted to talk about homosexuality. Do you think about gay sex a whole lot?
Homosexuality is not an abomination, because in order for something to be considered an abomination an offended deity is required. Since there is no evidence to support the existence of any gods or fairies or unicorns, the idea that anything is an abomination is rendered null and void.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@AceofSpad3sking1994 Tell me how any of these statistics relate to lesbians (gay women.) You can't. Because we have the highest rate of monogamy and the lowest rate of STD transmission. We are everything right with sexual humanity!
1000huzzahs 1 year ago
@1000huzzahs Yea except for the fact that you can't naturally reproduce.
On a side note I have renounced my faith and no longer hold my Christianity club card but the facts still stand even if you're a lesbian.
AceofSpad3sking1994 1 year ago
@AceofSpad3sking1994 nope, they don't. Because we lezbos don't have high STD transmission and we DO have very high monogamy. Care to try again?
1000huzzahs 1 year ago
@DEricKesler
Threats? Warning someone that they're walking the wrong path is hardly a threat, what happens to non-Christians doesn't affect me, but I will tell them the truth for their sake nonetheless.
AtheistTower 1 year ago
@AtheistTower Imagine your neighbor comes over and tells you that he has just finished constructing a torture chamber in his basement. He plans to use this facility to punish his children should they fail to love him. He has a deadline for his children to start expressing their love for him, but he is keeping this date a secret. He says he does not want to do it, but he may have to torture most of his kids forever and ever.
Does this scenario describe the actions of a loving and moral father?
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@DEricKesler
Who said anything about torture? If you reject God, you are separated from him for eternity (sounds reasonable to me), if you accept him you get to spend an eternity with him. There's nothing neither unfair or illogical about that. You get exactly what you want in the end.
AtheistTower 1 year ago
@AtheistTower
Matthew 25:46 describes Hell as eternal punishment. So, to answer your question, one of the writers of Matthew said something about torture.
You say that this eternity of god given torture is a reasonable consequence of rejecting the alleged son of the alleged Abrahamic god. I disagree. As described in the biblical texts, God is a mafia boss handing out broken knee caps if you fail to pay for his protection.
Thankfully, this vile scenario is not supported by any evidence.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@DEricKesler
The torture is merely the fact that you're completely separated from God. The fiery images of hell presented in the bible are simply metaphors for the concept of hell, the gnashing of teeth comes from the internal regret.
How is God a mafia boss? He sacrificed his son just so that each of us can righteously enter heaven, if God is perfect it's a logical requirement for him to have perfect standards from us, no matter how unfair that sounds to you.
AtheistTower 1 year ago
@AtheistTower God created a universe in which all of us are alleged to be born in sin. In order to atone for this crime, God sent an aspect of himself to suffer through a barbaric ritual of torture. This blood rite somehow magically atones for the original sin if we but willingly submit to his tyranny.
The whole scenario is built upon the faulty premise that I am guilty of some sort of crime that transpired prior to my birth. I reject that absurd accusation.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@DEricKesler
Clearly you misunderstand the whole sacrifice. It wasn't about being nailed to a cross, that's merely a symbol of what was going on, it was Christ taking the spiritual burden of our sins.
You are only guilty of what you have consciously done in your own lifetime, and I can bet over my own life that you're not perfect, the fact that you live your daily life without gratitude to the one who gives you everything is a sin unto itself.
AtheistTower 1 year ago
@AtheistTower I’ve certainly committed transgressions against other human beings. In such cases, the right action is to make amends with the wronged party. In your mythology, one can commit horrible actions against others and then ignore the wronged party, seeking forgiveness through the agency of the magical scapegoat.
As far as the suggestion that one can transgress against an omnipotent and omniscient tyrant, I dismiss as absurd. What a small and petty and capricious God you have.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@DEricKesler oohhhh! big words and another person who dosent know who God is!! well done
utmost11 1 year ago
@utmost11
Does this God that you follow oppose big words? Does he fear a well rounded vocabulary?
The Abrahamic God is credited with creating all the different languages in order to confound humanity. God, according to the myth of the Tower of Babel, knew that if humans could clearly communicate with one another would be able to accomplish anything that they imagined.
Of course, linguistic studies have demonstrated that the origin of languages can't traced to Mesopotamia.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@AtheistTower First, you say that the flames of hell are metaphorical and then you say that the death of Jesus was symbolic. Is there nothing of substance within your holy books? Is it nothing more than elusive allegory and metaphor and symbolism? If nothing in your mythology is concrete, how can you confidently state anything with any measure of certainty?
DEricKesler 1 year ago
@AtheistTower The mythical sacrifice of Jesus was hardly a sacrifice at all. It would be easy to volunteer for such torture and death if you knew that you would eternally save people that you care about. Especially, if you knew that it in three days time you would be up and running around again as if nothing had ever happened.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
The United States of America is a secular nation. The Founding Fathers did not even mention God in either the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Furthermore, they did not create any laws or issue any proclamations to promote or protect the Christian faith. There is not one single legal document that can be cited as legal precedent or that is considered binding in a court of law that supports the claim that the United States of America is a Christian nation.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
First off, there won’t be any civil war in the United States of America. Please lay off the fear mongering.
Secondly, the character of Bella is an abused woman. Edward is the abuser. Jacob is a pedophile. However, you don’t care about any of that as long as no one has the horrible pre-marital sex. As is often the case, you morals are all fucked up.
DEricKesler 1 year ago
wow.... Molotov COCK-FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!! you're a fucking idiot
hawkeye40222 1 year ago
Huh?!! You're kidding, right? I mean, Mormonism is a satanic cult; and the "Twilight" series is based on satanic stories about vampires. Not exactly things that born-again believers in Jesus Christ should be promoting.
MrCairokid 1 year ago
@MrCairokid
Isn't mormonism a part of christianity? Also, vampires are not necessarily satanic, the story is not satanic, it's a love story. (A bad one, but not satanic). However, it gave birth to Cullenism, which is dictionary-definition satanic :P
darkwarrior000 1 year ago
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Jesus said: "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6
MrCairokid 1 year ago
The ONLY reason Twilight is popular is because millions of girls, from 12 year olds to their mothers want to fuck Edward and Jacob RIGHT NOW. Not when they have their magical wedding. Did you know that they sell Twilight brand dildos, fleshlights, and even underwear? Yeah, underwear. With Edwards mouth on the inside. On the crotch. Because abstinence obviously.
BiscuitsJoe 1 year ago
He hates gays, is a paranoid bigot, AND he loves Twilight? There's NO redeeming factors to this guy...
Cocarat206 1 year ago 5
Oh God, not this guy again -.- I saw his video about homosexuals, just disgusting.
handmiadenofgod 1 year ago 4
You like twilight. Since you are the opposite of normal person, that makes sense.
VYTStemp 1 year ago 4
When the SHTF and the world is in chaos, a famous author once commented that the only two organizations that could survive mass anarchy and chaos are the Mormons and the Masons. It's an interesting thought.
As far as Twilight goes - dunno. Haven't seen the movies or read the books - I am tired of the whole Vampire infatuation.
fnordguy 1 year ago
Anyone who thinks Utah is a paradise and Twilight is a good thing doesn't deserve to breathe. Oh, and the anti-women shit is pretty mendacious, too.
TomatoBreadOrgasm 1 year ago
Edward is gay if you missed it dude. In the real world men who sparkle don't have sex with girls. ;)
lazerbeam134 1 year ago
This guy is so hilerios, is anyone realy taking this seriosly?
BlankPageNumberXIII 1 year ago
how is this promoting decency he has to drain her of life so they can be together its a very anti-woman piece of literature she has to give up everything to be with him. There is nothing decent or normal about that. Any relationship where you have to give up everything while the partner gives up nothing is unhealthy
KrissytheWorldWithin 1 year ago
"We are thinking" - muahahahahahaha! That's a great joke! You, Sir, are classic!
Defending Twilight, though? Seriously? How low can you actually sink? :D
And you and Glen Beck? I wonder what sweet secret you two manly dudes share - is there another "rightwingnutjob&religulousbigotactually isoneofthegay"-scandal on the horizon?
uuuuuuh - I'm getting all giddy just *thinking* about that possibility! :D :D :D
commanderkruge 1 year ago
@commanderkruge I find it incredibly ironic that liberals such as yourself tout how you stand up for gays and minorities, but you're the first person to accuse conservatives of being gay like its a derrogitory insult.
What a sad little mind you have.
JonOccamBluecollar 1 year ago
LOL. I don't think this ass-clown has actually read the books.
GreyFoxNinjaFan 1 year ago
all feminists do is try and get respect from men. are u retired
superblasphemusprime 1 year ago 2
@superblasphemusprime lol commenting two vids at once i meant are u retarded
superblasphemusprime 1 year ago
Twilight advices teenage girls to be completely dependent on a completely irresponsible man. Which usually ends in the man fucking her silly, and her self-esteem ruined. Hate women? Read Twilight.
TheMetallicSharpie 1 year ago 2
Yeah, Mormonism. Those polygamist racists are so decent.
poniesinashed 1 year ago 4
is a civil war breaks out, you'll be a pussy and run for your life, because you don't have faith your God's prayers will protect you. Twilight glorifies non-humans, because they know humans are doomed, sinful and God-hating.
funwjoshnjenn 1 year ago
Twilight: a girl's choice between bestiality and necrophilia. Then again, one of the greatest pieces of fiction since the bible.
ogodsell 1 year ago
You know, Molotov, I was very much suprised to learn that your real. I've never seen something as sickeningly stupid as you...but you are, wow...
Cocarat206 1 year ago
Twilight sucks period!
serioushamster 1 year ago 2
You like Twilight? In that book Edward takes stuff out of Bella's car so that she can't drive to her friends house. That's not exactly... healthy.
And another civil war is not going to happen. Our military would easily deal with it.
Because someone has a vagina they should, for some reason, be of less than you and me? Weird.
Gareth2Jones 1 year ago
really?? DEN supports Twilight??.... Was that the sound of the Women's Rights Movement suddenly going into reverse??
moonlady3000 1 year ago
yeah right, you liked it because of all the young, muscular, shirtless boys you closet homo.
DevilWomanCake 1 year ago 3
there is one major flaw in your argument. Twilight sucks dick beyond belief. Not a good film, not a good video and you're not a good person. you're an idiot
phantomdoodler 1 year ago 14
@phantomdoodler Here's a hint: learn to read and check out the books. And since when does having a difference in opinion make someone a bad person?
Myplasticdramas 1 year ago
I hope you move to Utah with your lover Glenn Beck. Because then we know where to drop the nukes.
furusanx 1 year ago 5
edward does nothing but disrespect bella. edward stalks bella and breaks into her house and watches over her when she sleeps. he breaks her car when she wants to go visit her friend and also just leaves her out in the middle of the woods to fend for herself. you need to read the books before you praise something blindly. watch the new south park episode. human beings are wired to be sexual creatures. having sex with multiple partners should not be consider slutty or whorish. just natural.
sideburnz711 1 year ago 3
This is fucking stupid.
xandrilzaax 1 year ago
Funny thing is Bella isn't a respectable character because she cant handle her life without some man being there.
SpartanOnFire 1 year ago 46