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  • I understand. But you are comparing a 300hp sled to a 150hp sled. Of course it should smoke it. It should also light it up and pass it around lol

  • ya well my phazer has 82 hp....

  • @AirTimeEh nice, is it the mtx

  • @smoker351 naww its the 07 fx in my opinion the best looking one, im happy with it because of its agility and acceleration :) :p

  • the title of the video has "drag race" in it. meaning the point is to see who's sled is faster. yamaha clearly took it on this one

  • What the Fuck? 300 hp? He should have beaten a 5.7 l hemi if that was the case. Wow grow the fuck up. who really gives a shit if one sled beats another by 1 or two sled lenghts.

  • @blacklabmustang1 So I was about to reply to your comment when it dawned on me that your comment is not relevant to the video, Who said anything about pick ups

  • @blacklabmustang1 Um. My brother used to have a skyline gtr, pretty well stock. had exhaust and bigger front mount, with a couple other small things... I used to have a 500 yamaha vmax, i remember racing him from a dig countless times and smoking him up to 130ish km/h... and thats on a 500. :/ my 800 vmax4 with light mods would rape that car now, as would your hemi. My point: no reason to compare a hemi to make it look good, to a sled. 2 different purposes.

  • skidooo fucks

  • @hassevonanka fuck you!

  • Who cares that the Yamaha won against Ski-doo? Speed is not the fun about driving snowmobiles, the fun in driving is! I don't think i would buy one that just went flying up to my cabin... I like to have fun while driving! *My Opinion*

  • @InfrazeWASD Yeah your right, you are intitled tol your opinion, but there are two types of riders, theres joy riders then theres extreme riders.

  • @smoker351 Yep :P

  • lol fuck i was at that race i live in inuvik that 1200 didnt even have turbo :L

  • Yamaha turbo: fast in a straight line, up down or flat, doesn't matter.

    2stroke: fun to ride, and possible to lift/ get unstuck.

    I tried picking up a nitro at the dealership, there is no way i could lift it if it was in a hole without help. Both have their places.

  • a turbo with how much hp?

    and also a 300hp ? uhmm hard to believe that is fair

  • @bbjlive2 it could reach 450hp

  • Sure, the yamaha can go fast in a straight line. Put them both on a beat up, bumpy trail and see who has more fun.

  • hahaha wouldn't call that blowing away. not even close

  • any record on the HP for the Ski Doo, cuz like drauglintuor said it comes down to the turbo and the HP of each sled if the Ski Doo has like 50 HP less that could be the loss but have each sled with the same HP and no weight reduction the Ski Doo really then kicks ass and would totally win

  • The Yamahas are heavy cause its all brawn under the hood.

  • @springgardenranch71 no its all heavy parts because yamaha doesn't know how to make a lightweight sled, i have reviewed ever ysled from 2011 and to mee it seems obvious that Skidoo beats the competition i have compared all years too and Skidoo may not have always been the best but they are better in this case HP differences are always an issue. Turbo for one sled may not have the same effect on every sled, you need to keep 2 stock sleds and race them, with no differences!

  • inuvik ftw lol im from inuvik but moved here :P

  • lol couldn't have said it better ABCDEFR ! came from a viper, just test rode a new nytro. not saying its the best but i would never go back to a 2 stroke again!

  • why dont you plp pay attention to the caption. And theres a reason 4 strokes are heavy

  • It looks like they were pretty side by side the whole time. Least to me it does. Either way, they're both fast as F#@%

  • congrats yamaha. you have successfully built the heaviest snowmobile on the market for the 100th time. anyone can make a fast sled if they don't care about the weight.. how hard would it be to put a bullet bike engine in your snowmobile when that engine has proven to be amazing. for skidoo to build a custom engine for that specific sled and then perform above the yamah, that just shows the technology and advancements of bombardier, which is clearly proof why skidoo is unmatched by all

  • @CHsummitX3 Theres been about 20g's of light weight shit put on it

  • @smoker351 Exactly..

  • @smoker351 doesnt matter on how much that engine and turbo kit weighs and not everyone had 20g's

  • @CHsummitX3

    Hi, thats so much bulls.. man ;;) Why cant Ski Doo make a bether engine then the Yamaha even with 200cc more?? The ski doo is lighter yes; but still it cant climb as the yamaha?? most be because the Yam has bether tecknology !!? ;)

  • @CHsummitX3 they are heavy because these are 4stroke, Yamaha has a much better thechnologies that skidoo, apex are the power stering, a 4stroke engine more efficient and reliable than other sleds always, never need an oil change, and what about ski doo snowmobile of light but the worst motor on the market, a lot of problem with: chaincase, clutches, pistons, valves, electronic system, so when you driving a 127mph beast that reaches full you do not give a fuck that other snowmobile lighter ...

  • @CHsummitX3 ....heavy....weight difference is not so great that it needs attention.....

    unless of course you're weak. grow some balls.

    All 2/4 stroke sleds have good and bad points.

    it boils down to preference and how bad you want to smell.

  • @smasheditorial u dont know what ur saying let me see u side hill 675lb sled in the mountains on a 75 degree andgle u prob havent even rode a sled so stfu

  • @MegaKoolkiller ....I,m guessing english is your second language.

  • @CHsummitX3 k he didnt perform above he lost, because the yammy was stage 2. why are you such a bombardier fanboy? its annoying. who cares about weight when youre talking about going faster in a straight line. is that what you say when your car loses to a bigger but more powerful car? "Youre too heavy" ? Lol. no.

  • I like the video. But the apex wasn't even close to blowing the skidoo away

  • @january989 but then again the apex did win

  • i shoulda kept my apex there a little longer think i woulda blew both them away :P

  • @smoker351 all I know, ITS BLOODY SUMMER !!! so no play...."sniff sniff sniff"

  • I would hope that a turbo would smoke a non turbo thats just common sence. And its on a lake, anything goes fast on a lake. Put them in the mountains in deep snow

  • @mhubbell12 when I put it in the MT the Apexs walk's all over the skidoo, and their both turbos.

  • @mhubbell12 they are not turbocharged, so it would be if the Yamaha would have done the race in a Weely

  • So a heavily modified Yamaha beats a 1200 stock Ski-Doo. Is that what it takes nowadays for Yamaha to keep their heads above the water? There's a reason people are switching to Ski-Doo. They're innovative! Look at their stuff and how much thought is put into their products (not just sleds). Look at what they did with 2-strokes.. The new 800 ETEC engines are much quieter, don't smoke, and are much lighter and just as powerful as 4-strokes.

    Sorry, "Ski-Doo 4 life" here kids, hands down!

  • @SilverHawkk I agree that I like my Rev better than my Yamaha Nytro XTX for handling but the Yamaha is neat to. You should ride one and see what I mean. Still, my rev is easier to steer, is lighter and seems to have a better setup than the Yamaha. But, when I fire the Yamaha up I can feel what the engineers have accomplished...they put a crotch rocket motor in a sled and somehow made that work and that is cool. My friend Daniel worked on the Rev platform and he and we know it is amazing.

  • First thing first- Yamaha should have a better fourstroke! that's all the idiots make!!! Second- Yah in this video they're fast on a lake. Put em' in the mountains and they get smoked by any Ski-doo summit or Polaris RMK. So stop bitchin bou tthis lake race cuz it ain't nothin.

  • @skidookid94 First of all its a river race, And for the mountain part, the Apex will smoke the skidoo on a vertical climb, IVE DONE IT.

  • @smoker351 the apex weight is like 305kg (672.4 lbs)..

    the Ski-doo .. hmm 235kg (519lbs) and the turbo kit to the ski-doo gives it like 274 hp

    its like 1,16HP / 1 Kg (2,2 lbs)

  • @smoker351 are you retarded? Lake or river? it's not like there's a difference when it comes to a race! DUH! its still flat ice! im not talking shootin up the mountain! Im talkin about the RMK and Summit's ability to sidehill! and jump and whip! which fat four strokes can't do cuz they're too heavy! and don't accel quick enough to sidehill and shit.

  • @smoker351 you can clumb vertical? seems like i cant be done... you go up the side of a building?

  • @skidookid94 not completely accurate...Yamaha was making 2 stroke motocross bikes and sleds for decades. They knew that they had no chance of taking on Arctic Cat, Ski-Doo and Polaris ...at least not at the U.S. sales volume levels. So, they adapted their crotch rocket technology to a sled I think that is cool. Idiots? These are the engineers that make some of the finest motor sport machines in the world. I spent time in Japan and saw the mfg. first hand. They please you for pride.

  • @tc25d still not my point. they make good bikes, some people like their four stroke pieces of shit. i don't, they are way to god damn heavy! if they could produce that hp and make it 200 lbs lighter hell i'd ride em' in a heart beat. but in the mountains ski-doo and polaris still out climb when it comes to agility and sidehilling in the mountains, hands down.

  • yamaha pwns :D

  • cant even see a pass in the video...good argument starter thats about it

  • The Yamaha sucks anyway, beacuse they dont go in SNOW.

    Used to drive Yamaha but got my mind straight and got me a DOO :)

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  • and now hen i look closer... i can see the REV pull away towards the end. closing up on the finish =)

  • if you watch..

    he only passes because the 1200 starts to ride a wheelie and lets off just a bit.... but I bet the 1200 is faster..

  • @calholli .you wrong, but who cares any ways, that Apex is for pointing and shooting up the side of a mountain. Its a fucken rocket dude. It now has 420 plus HP.

  • the 1200 turbo won i was there its my dads.

  • @Tuker1200 Ya and I video tape, the apex won.

  • @smoker351

    from your POV (standing), you can't even see the finishline :S

    so plz, don't be so cocky =)

  • skidoo has every other 2 stroke wooped out of the water.... and 4 thats im happy because i absolutely hate 4 strokes always have and always will

  • the 800 etec would murder the apex, the etecs are just as fuel efficient if not better then the 4 strokes and they have twice the snap.... think about it.... yes they needed to rid the carburated 2 strokes but now they have bested the 4 strokes with direct injection on a 2 stroke.....

  • @Etrician55 any how long do ya think thatll last buddy. 4 strokes are the future it happened with bikes, cars, lawnmowers, airplaines, dirtbikes, atvs sooner or later there wont be any 2 strokes. Its old technology. 4 strokes make more power and are more effiecient , are more forgiving and have a much broader powerband.

  • Lmao @ all you fucking retards saying the ape has 300 hp and the Doo has 140. The Turbo 1200 4-tecs are making upwards of 270 hp. Seems like a fair race considering the weight difference. Quit bitching, Doo still hasn't bested Yammie in the 4 stroke market just yet. I'm not brand loyal, just don't give a shit about volatile 2-smokes. and strictly speaking from 4-strokes, Yamaha still beats Doo. Putting a solid engine in would def. help BRP out though.

  • Finally some fucking commonsense. right.

  • @ABCDEFR what r u talking about a stock doo has like 140

  • @ABCDEFR

    lol...according to the number of folks ditching Yams for the Doo 4Tec, I would say Yam has been bested.

  • @ABCDEFR i agree ski doo has been in 4 stroke for 3 years and yammie has for 10

  • OWNED! YAMAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • No surprise there...

  • no shit the apex will win... its hookin up way better. plus its got 100 more hp than that ski doo does. not a fair race

  • @skidookid94

    PFFTT. That just means that buddy on the Doo came unprepared and got smoked.

  • @skidookid94 what i thought all yammie has is heavy 4stroke sleds with no power...stop whining when you machine loses suck it up

  • That and look how long the track and lugs are on that apex lol

  • well of corse the apex is going to win because its FRIGGIN 300HP and the ski doo 1200 has i dont how much maybe like anywere from 120HP to 150HP im guessing

  • ski-doo with the turbo 270 if tuned vs 300 hp

  • 120 hp ment to fit in the 600 2 stroke class where as a 4 cyl. ape is ment to fit in 800 2 stroke class

  • rofl, yamahas #1

  • ya what a beat down,lol

  • That Yamaha also has 4 cylinders and the Skidoo has 3 Cylinders so what are you trying to say?

  • 4 cylinders? what are you saying?

  • The Apex has 4 piston's 4 Cylinders and the Skidoo has 3.

  • 75 thousand dollars, thats bull and the only reason the 1200 lost is because its so heavy, it doesnt matter what size engine it is cuz if its heavy its not as fast as you think

  • 1200 isnt that heavy, and its put in the 600 class

  • Yes this guy is right plus that Yamaha has 4 cylinders and the Skidoo has 3. The Yamaha has 150 horse and the Doo has 130 before the turbos. I would buy the Skidoo that is 70 lbs litter that that Yamaha. I rode the Yamaha and it was fun but that thing was heavy.

  • Yeah I mean the Yamaha with 300 horses better beat the little 130 hp doo, or something is majorly fucked up

  • @IMT00FIERCE The skidoo 1200 is 530lbs dry.

  • @kevtech733 So true.

  • dude the fuckin apex is 300+ of course it won that wasnt a fuckin fair race

  • @Travisvermette it weighs less then that apex there for its a fair race and the doo was turboed so that makes it around 280 hp so really it was fair.....

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  • This guy has a really good point.

  • who has a good point?

  • @idodonuts What???????????

  • kevtech733 said this guy has a really good point and i was wondering who he is talkin to lol

  • maybe you should of been standing at the finish line because i think the doo won .

  • ahhh, once again ill say it, the apex took it. and looks can be diseving

  • @markz800 I think you are right.

  • doesnt look like it passed....

  • well it did. right where i was standing was the half way mark

  • @maxd131 I think u are right.

  • I'm not enviromental its just common sense. why burn your lubrication and leave shit all over your engine, or let it do its job. And for the 210mph, theres no question, its a fact.

  • Hey, did you ever wonder why every other engine other than a chainsaw is 4 stroke or going to be. Its the future. End of story. By the way tell me how the worlds fastest sled is a piece of shit. 210mph, Rx-1 Turbo.

  • first of all its the enviromental bitches like you that wine about fumes n shit, theres the answer to your first question. and for your second question, well i ant got a answer cause its a stupid question and dosnt make sense

  • With turbos it all comes down two things: Size of the turbo and depth of your pockets.

  • yamis suck dick.

  • @bennjayman and yet we yammi riders walk all over the competition

  • yea im sure you do you cocky bitch...

  • hey its not my fault.....

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  • @bennjayman Not!!!

  • that was Kurt Wainman on his 2006 Yamaha Apex GT

  • @foxtrot089 No dude, that was jodie on his Apex

  • i wish some of the yamaha guys who try to back yamaha up would have a little bit more to say then just "ski-doo sucks yamaha is the best" :S lmfao.. we all know both these sleds are for pussys fucken 4 strokes LOL POINT AND SHOOT 1 ton pices of shit... 4 strokes are like tampons every pussy has one "CAUTION MAY CAUSE AVALANCH WHEN LANDING A JUMP" when they brake down they need choppers to pull the off the hills cause there so heavy !!!

  • now i know some little punk is gonna say NO ITS BECAUSE THEY GO WERE NO ONE ELS CANT GO ... no they have to ride there because no one els wants to lissen to that stupid fucken sound !!! BBBBBBBBBbbbbbbb HAHAHAHAAH it takes a super charged nitro to keep up to are 600 mods in snowcross AHAHAHA now thats funny !!! BUT THERE SOOOOO GOOD right ??? lets take a goood rider like ian haydan and turn him into shit by giving him a yamy contract HAHAHAHA .... GOD BLESS!!! lol

  • hey...dumbass.

  • @beaverphucker man i ride a yamaha but i like u ur not beaking ur just point the truth

  • haha, yamaha is bad ass, but i know what your saying, cause i love my triple//

  • how are we pussys if we have to work with more weight. it sounds like you ride a little kitty kat

  • wrong tell u the truth i had a apex mountin turbo... biggest pice of shit ever .. and then i have my yearly snowcross sleds.... witch are IQ polaris's recently switched from ski-doo revs so am realy not a " SNOMOBILE RACIST" i just say it as it is .. lol its just funny to lissen to the hard core yamy boys get all wound up when i chirp them lol :)

  • pardon me i dint mean yammy boys .. 4 strokers was wat i was looken for

  • i call bull shit.... why would you have a huge mountain sled then switch to a race sled?

  • y not u cant jump stuff with a huge MOUNTAIN turbo lol

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  • ski dont, arctic crap and polar shit.. yamaha is the best plain and simple.

  • @MNyamaha14 NOT!!!

  • @kevtech733 You know it.

  • iv seen powderlite turbo 1200's kill yamis and iv seen apexes kill 1200's it just depends who has more money into their sleds.

  • @summit146 You got a good point.

  • yeah......... why would you invest that much money into a pieace of crap lol. fuckin yamomas.

  • well you probly would do the same if you had a job...lol

  • punch in the ass!

  • @2004Skidoorev LOL So true...

  • Yamaha is the best! skidoo sucks..

  • heheeee it's all good boy's....it's all good

  • .........won the race by 1 to 1 1/2 lengths. The 1200 got beat throughout the day by other slower apexs'...........

  • yup, finaly some agreement......im sick of argueing, i made the video..the apex definatly won

  • Well, well...let me set the record straight. The 1200 had the hole shot due to my lack of a challenge. He was 1 to 2 lengths out of the hole and I tracked him down at the 1/2 way point...............

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  • Lol

  • the 1200 was rite there, he definatly didnt get killed

  • That Apex turbo never came close to smoking that 1200 XR ... They were side by side,and its pretty bad that a turbo sled with 300+ couldn't beat a stock sled...Just goes to show the balls that Bombardier has.

  • yep boosted stock. i heard that. dip shit

  • thats right, finaly some agreement

  • he never was ahead of me....i know i was racing........if he was ahead of me at 05...how come i ws ahead at 07 ,08 , and o9

    he may have caught up at 05 for a sec then ....my sled kiked in again....i just bogged for a sec..

  • k dude what ever, all i kno is the proff is right there on vid... judges say he won, they must be lieing. but what ever k u won what ever, i doint care any more.

  • you people have to think that the 1200 has 265 turbo hp's and the apex has 300+ hp's.

  • plus u gotta remember, power to wieght ratio..that 1200 fucking heavy

  • Yeah, right...It's flyweight if you compare to the Apex. Xr 1200 is just over 230 kg...Apex is atleast 20 kg's heavier!

  • @kethrildur Yamaha 1000 is 6o5lbs and the Skidoo 1200 is 530lbs.

    We call the Yamaha RX1 THE RX ONE TON :~) What does an RX1 wiegh any idea?

  • @kevtech733 True that Yam is almost a ton of fun.

  • power to weight ratio ..my friend power to weight......... anyways thats enough of that.....

  • yeah but an apex can get over 400 hp's without tearing on the engine. 1200 has the safe limit on 310.

  • winters almost here. we shall see

  • heheehee got the yammee's running scared

  • sick apex,,tottaly won

  • it almost the ame thing

  • i used to live there

  • Damn, the apex took that one!

  • lol clearly you can see i won ...the apex was no match..... the judges should see the video..

  • no man jodie on the apex smoke ya. you can see he passes you at the halfway mark..... the finish is down at the end of video. the camera was only at the halfway mark.

  • put your mouse on the half way mark and watch.......

  • yea I think the 1200 won. And truthfully I would buy a 1200 over an apex.

  • im sick of arguing, ware i was video tapeing was the halfway mark, the apex passed the 1200 AT the halfway mark, i was there, i watched the damn race, for cryng out loud, ps, thats a 75thousand doller apex.

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