To take down just one tower and virtually pulverise it would take approximatly 67 tons of explosives,how long do you think it would take to set that up.
If explosives were used why was there NO damage to nearby bldgs above the 20th floor,and why was`nt there bits of the towers found on the roofs of said buildings.
CCD it was not.
He`s probably right about the US government having something to do with it though.
@2000tc88 Do you think the government had something to do with it? A 767's engines were not designed to achieve 420 knots at 700 feet therefore whatever hit the twin towers was not a commercial airliner. Examination of the facts will reveal the truth.
@2000tc88 The first law of thermodynamics says energy cannot be created or destroyed therefore there would not be enough potential energy in the building to reduce it to rubble. That's why your assertion of explosives being impossible cannot be correct. It must be considered as an option as no one can explain where the energy came from to reduce the building to rubble.
@2000tc88 It's not my fault you were so poorly educated. Anyone cal easily google the first law of thermodynamics. The law states that energy can be transformed, i.e. changed from one form to another, but cannot be created nor destroyed. That means a cup cannot spontaneously explode because there is not enough potential energy in the cup for it to do that. It takes energy to destroy the cup. Is this too far over your head? Do you need to take some asprin?
@Daddyo930 For someone who thinks he is so well educated you have a very narrow mind. You say. "It must be considered as an option that explosives were used because no one can explain where the energy came from to reduce the building to rubble". That is on the verge of stupidity. The towers were turned to DUST that went up into the atmosphere. No CCD has EVER done that. You still cannot answer my questions. You are a waste of time. I wont bother replying to you again. I need a drink.
In the year 2000 all the worlds lights are going to go off because someone forgot to punch in a few extra digits in the computers. All the worlds nukes will go off, and the government will come in and enslave all it's people, and put them in brainwashing and concentration camps... oh wait, what? It didn't happen? You're kidding! Fuck me, I saw evidence....
They may call themselves "Jews", but they are actually converted Khazar Zionist. They follow the Talmud and Kaballa, which reveals grave findings. There are African tribes(The Lemba) with far more Hebrew DNA than anyone living in Israel. ISRAEL IS A HUGE LIE, and according to the Christian Bible, the people of Israel are from "The Synagog's of Satan" ...9/11 = 100% INSIDE JOB....WW1, WW2, ? <---A great deal of the facts were hidden. Search: "Jewish Nazi"
Funny, CNN was part of the orchestration on 9/11 and they well know it. When the time comes certain producers at CNN will stand next to Dick Cheney, John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Bill and Hillary, and the Bushes on trial for treason, fraud, racketeering, extortion, and murder.
A real patriot should be allowed to ask questions and not be marked as crazy or terrorist. The curtain is falling, people are waking up; now we need just 1 to kick 'em out of their beds and take to the streets. Enough is enough..... power to the people. Fuck the NWO.
It is an ''embarrassment'' to not look at the evidence....It is an ''embarrassment'' that a country would turn an eye to the facts and fall for a game. It is unpatriotic to not look at the evidence and to study what really happened that day. It hurts to look yes...but it is the TRUTH.
whatever happened to freedom of speech eh, this guy starts to produce a theory and the government tries to shut him down and paint him out in the media as a traitor and an idiot, and yet its soldiers fight for "freedom" lol
I used to get offended at hearing the conspiracy theorists' irreverent, ignorant, immature disrespect for the dead.
Now I realize that nobody takes them seriously, and theyre all just a bunch of basement dwelling troll faggots anyway--salivating and rubbing their micropenises to the prospect of making the relatives of the dead cry, and their countrymen look away in shame...
9/11/09 Dr. Barrett got an interview with Russia Today. Unfortunately he squandered his opportunity by telling RT viewers 4 lies in the first 4 minutes of his talk.
For information on an earlier KDKA radio interview Barrett gave, see my video "Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room"
I was wondering if the black boxes (really bright orange) were ever found on 9/11? I called the New Your FBI office and was eventually connected to the guy who answers such questions. Keep in mind the rumor was that in the entire history of the black boxes they have all been found after an accident - except for the jets of 9/11. Um really! So I called. Here is the answer I got 8.5 years later. " That is a good question, I don't know." WTF! Lucy, I think yous got some expanin to do.....
@lizardfirefighter110 -- I recall reading about this in 2004 -- do a google search "WTC black boxes found". "In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center... were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone." I believe it.
@starmanskye What the hell happened the myriad of cameras surrounding the Pentagon? Would love to see footage of what the fuck really crashed into it. Cause let me tell ya folks it was no Jumbo Jet. Hell no!
thats another stupid idea and mentality of the west ,
most people believe most people says most people dont like ...... what the most people knows about most of the things that they have no information what so ever ? how can i judge and make a comment about life in moon for example when i actualy dont know any thing about moon ?
well , this is just a good example of americans ignorancy .
@m98m99 life in moon? thats life on the moon. just another example of someone who dont know any thing about america and still calls us "ignorancy". LOL!! were you calling us ignorant or arrogant? BTW. Most people i have met from verious other countries have been the most aroggant douche bags ive ever had the displeasure of meeting. not that all other people in other countries are douche bags, but its just one example of how small minded people can be, nomatter what country they are from.
@chaosad09 well , forgive my ignorancy but i didnt get the point on this video . but coming to your statment , every one is intitle for his idea . but having said his idea , we must understand the concept of IDEA and when an opinion become an idea ?
it takes some degree and stage to opinion become an IDEA .
coming to our point or i should say your point , the statment you have made is your opinion and necessitate my respect if it,s NOT MY recognizing .
@m98m99 sory, i guess i was venting on you a litle. im just tired of every abody saying how stupid america is. it gets alitle anoying after a while. thank you and no hard feelings, : )
@chaosad09 Some things everyone needs to know to sort this out:
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
As for the the notion that this is too evil to have happened, that its offensive to think these things (or that there's going to be a new investigation), here's a video that deals with such ideas:
The Twin-Tower Sacrifice and the Oil Endgame watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo
Watch Friday Night's episode of Medium. They are planting the seed to Finger Larry Silverstein for 9/11. Larry should fess up and finger his CIA co-conspirators while he still lives. Watch it here> 1/4> watch?v=ZNxkR8Cgens , 2/4> watch?v=v_d9c3xdGIA , 3/4> watch?v=xoSi0383pK8 , 4/4> watch?v=gcrov5RTOiw
MAINSTREAM MEDIA: ...well people believe these 911 truthers are nut-jobs because their evidence includes the lack of interceptor planes in the air and well the government is just plain mean sometimes. Back over to you Charlie in the studio.
Balls of steel, this scott suder guy is using the oldest trick in the book, 'its offensive to the victims families', ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT, anyone who believes the official story simply doesnt have access to the alternative unbiased uncensored media, the internet!! Its a blatant inside job, so was 7/7!
@wellifthemediasaysit YEAH FUCK SCOTT SUDER!! "What possible motive does the government have to kill 3000".... What a complete fucking moron, obvious retard media talking points. "It's offensive to the families". NO IT FUCKING ISN'T. This is attacking credibility of government and I know that the majority of 9/11 survivors and families that lost their loved ones SUPPORT AN INVESTIGATION. Nobody is taking you seriously Scott, and now we all know you are a fucking liar!!!!!!!
THIS IS A TYPICAL 'FALSE FLAG' EVENT . GOVERNMENT MAKING PEOPLE BELEIVE IN AN ENEMY IN ORDER TO GET SUPPORT FOR A DIFFERENT AGENDA. LIKE THE WAR IN IRAQ.
FYI.. CNN IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY GENERAL ELECTRIC (GE) ONE OF THE LARGEST MILITARY CONTRACTERS IN THE WORLD. MUCH OF THE UPPER ECHELONS OF MEDIA, THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, RELIGION AND POLITICS IS OPERATED BY THE SAME ELITE GROUPS OF INTERNATATIONAL FINACIERS.
THIS IS A FACT..
LOOK IT UP!
BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HEAR IS PRIMED TO MISLEAD AND QUELL DISSENT.
Why would this be offensive to the victims and their families. That's a silly statement. I've heard that before. People want the real truth for these families. That is not offensive.
Basically, this story is about a professor who believes that shennanigans were behind 9/11 AND the subsequent shake-down politicians and special interests are bringing down on the school, to fire this man. In other words, question authority - question the government, and your ability to work - make a living, will be under assault. What a way to keep people in line.
LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS AGAIN BECAUSE IN FACT.. IT'S NOT AN OPINION.. THAT IS THE REALITY WE ARE FACING..
SEARCH STAN JONES SPEECH & WATCH AS A STATE LEGISLATER WARNS THE COUNTRY OF A COMMUNIST ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT IN CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS THE REAL THREAT AND THERE IS LITTLE TIME LEFT TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.
GOOGLE: 'WAR PROTESTERS HOUSES BEING RAIDED'
FBI doing it to LOOK for evidence! THIS IS NOT AMERICA.
Like the jew owner of WTC Complex...the one who won 12 billions thanks to the attacks...after signing an insurance police covering specificly terrorism acts 6 months before 911...??
Killing 3.000 with tax payers money...just to praise Jew´s hate for muslims while gaining a good sum of millions in the process and take fully control of the US...cutting citizens rights...
@Funfisique Believe it or not I'm a Jew who agrees with your assessment of Silverstein, the big ass crook who is knee deep in guilt for his part in blowing up NYC. Jews like him will eventually get Jews like me sent to concentration camps. I wouldn't mind so much if old Larry himself was in there too. I'd love to see him hang, along with all the other 9/11 insisde jobbers!
BLIND SHEEP WOULD SAY NO TO 9-11 BEING AN INSIDE JOB I WISH IT WASN'T BUT ANALYSE THE FACTS PEOPLPE (NWO) WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE SO SCARED TO OPPOSE THE GOVERNMENT AREN'T THEY FOR THE PEOPLE AREN'T THEY THE PROTECTORS OF OUR FREEDOM COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSION
If we all put on our tinfoil hats it is obvious the planes were controlled by Jewpower and coincidentally quite by accident impacted the buildings at the same time the Freemasons and the Jew-Massud George Bush conspiracy detonated nanothermite explosives at key points within the buildings infrastructure. Seems so obvious now, duh? And don't forget the catalysts.
This guy was trying to teach this crap in a college...A college isn't some crackpot blog proffesor...Professors are supposed to be interested in the truth. Not his crackpot theories...God, what a lame ass fool...Believing there were no planes at the Pentagon and Shanksville. His friend believes a Space Ray took down the Towers....But I've heard they have since had a spit becouse he thought the space ray was to wacky...But I guess the Silent Explosives arent.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Hermann Goering Hitlers # 2
but its starting to break apart and bits of the truth are starting to spring to light. and whats the main stream media say ??? conspiracy theory....... they preach propaganda for the government they defend the government,
most people do believe 911 was an inside job... most people believe the main stream media is full of shit, most people believe war on terror is a war for oil.. most people are FUCKING PISSED OFF..
Classic example of the media being used to tell people what to think and keep them ignorant. Nice to see people on this board who don't buy into this horseshit.
Disrespectful to the family members - An organization called the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders, and survivors, has been gathering signatures to place a referendum for a new 9/11 investigation on the November ballot in New York City
Mr Barett you are a hero and the American school system should be ashamed of the selves, naturally those opposing your views has not done any research of the evidence themselves and have not read the FEMA or NIST reports
The assertion that the collapse of the towers could have occurred with explosives, and that the planes were not enough to bring them down, has full academic merit.
Mr. Barrett, I hope you are doing well, it has been a long time since I've heard from you. I know the system destroyed you since you came out in public with this info. I remember your old radio show, wish you would come back on Genesis or Republic Broadcasting.
"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles." Michael Rivero.
Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.
@sk8rpunks1313 Some things everyone needs to know to sort this out:
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
As for the the notion that this is too evil to have happened (or that there's going to be a new investigation), here's a video that deals with that idea:
The Twin-Tower Sacrifice and the Oil Endgame watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo
@sk8rpunks1313 Michael Tsarion is the worlds premier conspiracy researcher/lecturer/author. Dr. Bill Deagle, Leo Zagami, Jordan Maxwell and Alexandre Dumas pere are highly informative as well. p.s. melting Euphoria is similar to Ozric Tentacles and Gong
"its offensive for the victims and for its families" to support the theory that the country killed 3,000 of its citizens to gain billions in war policies ..... yeah right !! BEHOLD THE MAGIC BULLET THEORY !!! guess what , its the truth !!! looool .... Americans are so fkin stupid that its embaressing how they represent human kind !! they had a great opportunity to avenge evil but still they choose to believe the BS ... America : you will never wake up in time , all you see is money !!
The Sheeple of this earth don't want to believe that people inside a government would do this to them, so its dismissed with out another thought. All these so called planes vaporized and not 1 black box was found. 3000 people were murdered that day and they were turned to dust. But the most amazing thing is, one of the hijackers passport managed to survive the plane vaporizing, the massive explosion, the controlled demolition and was found on the sidewalk at the bottom of the tower ??
@giptonsilly well if you say everyone evaporated out of thin air and their passports were not found, what exactly does that mean? i don't understand. (i'm a 15 year old canadian bare with me lol) also, what are these black boxes everyones talking about? is that some part of the plane?
@BlondeEyeCandy We are told the plane vaporized in a giant fireball that was clearly viable when the planes crashed so if everything vaporized including titanium engines that melt at over 3000*C how would a bit of paper in the pocket of a hijacker survive, its a total fantasy. Oh the black box is actually Orange in colour and records everything that is happening to the plane up till impact, Data and cockpit recordings. Why don't they call it the Orange box then ? 9/11 was an inside job
Are you sure the black box stops recording after impact?(j/k) They are not "usually" orange they are all orange, so that they can be located after a crash. The term "black" was coined because at one time were black. You are associating "vaporized" with only heat from a fire or explosion, keep in mind the high speed and massive kenitic energy involved.
2 Identicle PASSPORTS for the SAME TERRORIST WERE FOUND! LOOK IT UP.
BUILDINGS WERE BEING REPORTED AS CALLAPSING BEFORE THEY EVER FELL! LOOK IT UP. WATCH THE VID WHERE THE REPORTER CLAIMS BUILDING 7 FELL WHILE YOU CAN STILL SEE IT IN THE BACKGROUND, UNTIL THE FEED IS PULLED WHEN THEY REALIZE THIS STUPID MISTAKE. SAME THING HAPPENED IN AUSSI!
@CARE2DOTCOM No need to shout mate, I think you will find most people know all these things your talking about, I find it a little insulting when people shout GOOGLE It as if your the only one that knows what is going on in the world. People are finally waking up to the new world order's agenda and I agree with you on the passport issue, the same morons fucked up at the London bombings when 2 passports were found at the same station.Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11 look at the FBI most wanted .
@giptonsilly another more recent and detailed analysis is here if you utube search: 911 - NIST : A New Standard of Deception - Kevin Ryan. (FULL)
I also posted a compilation of videos, links, documentaries and articles titled: "My Thoughts on 9/11 and False Flag Terrorism - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that if you're interested.
No way in hell is some guy gonna fly me to my death while I sit idly by....
Picture a plane-load of people all choosing to DIE, rather than get cut by a fuckin box cutter.
No Way, wouldn't happen...
I think at least half the people would fight back....
Call me a crackpot (I don't care) but I think the 2nd plane was a big-ass drone, loaded with explosives. It made good cover while they blew the charges already in the building....
The resolution of cameras weren't as good as they are nowadays. It was the airplanes right fairing with the right amount of sunlight, which gave it an exaggerated appearance. It was reflections, NOT a missile.
I agree it wasnt a missile. It was an E-10. The bottom of a 747 should be smooth but yet every single pic shows the tube structure. The frontal pic even shows that something under is raised. This also explains why so many claimed the plane was gray. You seem intelligent enough. Look at all of the facts, not just the people that say, "because we said so". Is it a horrible thought? Yes. You have to be more intelligent than they think you are capable of.
From a purely logical and mathematical stand-point of the hottest temperature of jet fuel being 1500 o F, the melting point of structural steel being 2800 o F, the heat from a thermite bomb being around 5000 o F, or 4532 o F to be exact (2500 o C x 1.8 = 4500 o F + 32 = 4532 o F).something HOTTER THAN A 2800 o F "jet fuel fire" was needed to MELT the STRUCTURAL STEEL FRAME-WORK of the WTC buildings into a MOLTEN STATE on September 11th
These buildings were built to withstand planes and helicopters crashing into them. That was a prerequisite when building the WTC. I'm saying once the planes hit the buildings a thermite bomb may have been deteonated to drop the buildings in a hour.
You are just parrotting incredulous misinformation. These buildings were not built to withstand a deliberate full speed attack with fully fueled commercial airliners. And despite the circulating urban myth, nobody actually knew what the building could or could not withstand. There was not enough computer power in the1960ties to calculate all the variables. There is now!
Just before his death De Martini himself reported(!) that WTC1 was dangerously wounded.
actually,you're wrong...there was evidence of thermite...go find the info yourself,it's out there....don't take my word for it,I'm a stranger to you...but please,don't just take the official story either,cause they don't know you and would lie to you just as easily as I could...I have no gain in telling you what I believe..What do they have to gain by lying to you?Read everything,listen to everyone,believe nothing,unless you can prove it with your OWN research...
And yes! I have read it all. All of Harrit's paper and all of Jones's investigations and much of what he has written.
All of it is speculation. None - none! - of it is scientifically verified. And all speculations contain contradictory statements.
Btw, there is no such thing as one(!) official story. There are peer-reviewed papers. And none of the peer-reviewed papers are from Jones or Harrit et al.
See,there are many theories,and the "official" story is just another theory... can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt...just like all other theories....U don't think there aren't other possible explanations to what happened?..Too many unanswered questions.even you've gotta admit .You seem educated on the subject,admittedly prolly more than I,other than the official story,whats your take on it?If you've looked at most of the same shit I've seen,you can't possibly think the gov was honest..
Who is the government? The government has nothing to do with the attack. Other than, perhaps, the fact that in hindsight they have been a little sloppy with some of the information.
And there are no theories. There only is biased speculation, truthers, and scientific facts. Science: WTC1+2+7 collpased due to fire. WTC5 almost collapsed due to fire. The Pentagon wing collapsed due to fire. And all because of 19 idiots with a daring and assiduous plan. It is as simple as that.
UNTC321: Excellent, and there is video of molten? iron pouring off a tower.
Me: No! There wasn't! The observed fire fountain could have many causes of which molten iron is the least plausible.
However, what was objectively(!) observed is that the outer support pilars progressively bowed inward and snapped at the moment of collapse. This can fully be explained. And this fact is also totally inconsistent with the thermite hypothesis. But I am anxious to hear your logical explanation.
There were globs of a glowing orange substance pouring off one of the towers. Firemen interviewed said below the rubble "there was molten steel running down the channels, like a foundry, like a volcano, like lava. You obviously have no idea of the constuction of the twin towers. The entire ectoskeleton could collapse and the core would remain. You are defending a lie so it is not easy.
Again you totally ignore all factual technical details I provided and stubbornly keep on repeating your false assertions and strawman arguments.
Again: WTC7 did not - NOT! - collapse because of the damage inflicted by the collapse of WTC1. It collapsed BECAUSE OF the subsequent fire it initiated.
But you fiercely deny the WTC7 fire was large or hot enough. You are demonstrably wrong because you are contradicted by the FDNY who told upfront it was going to collapse.
30 pages of harrit? and as i said im not downloading im just asking what it is!
Answer:
To my knowledge, Harrit's paper is just about the only paper that comes close, but not quite, to something almost representing an honest scientific inquiry by truthers.
All the rest is crap...especially all the unsupported bullshit of Jones and his irrelevant demonstrations of burning thermite he seems to demonstrate on so many boring layman meetings.
I am a software engineer by trade, though not a network expert. But that is completely irrelevant.
One advice:
Verify your sources! So far it shows you never do. Verify Harrit, Jones and such ilk. When scrutinized none - none! - of their claims remains standing. Don't believe me? Than name one claim!
By the way, to start: I have read and analyzed the complete 30 page article of Harrit. Would you like me to send you a link where you can download the report?
Im not downloading anything...What kind of software have u been involved with then?
Verify my sources? wtf? its all over youtube i dont even need to tell u where to go the only thing u need to do is SEARCH for the facts....And when it comes to FRA AND IPRED internet laws it should be known to you as an software developer!...
30 pages of harrit? and as i said im not downloading im just asking what it is!
I don't know what FRA or IPRED is but I am quite sure that it is totally irrelevant for the terrorist attacks on 9/11 2001.
Also, just because something is published on youtube or the internet or in the media in general does NOT make it a fact. You have to verify IF it is correct BEFORE you can call something a fact. Do not take anything at face value but VERIFY.
And when you do verify you will discover that none of the truthers claims hold any ground.
And u should know by now that obama want an on off swtich on internet...talk about POWER?...one man to rule them all..fuck them if the truth should call...I mean that alone should wake people up when the coward didnt even turned up on the washington demonstration to face the protesters!
AND btw did the washington protest even got aired? not in sweden...i had to watch THAT on youtube to even know it was there...That alone is to censor facts!
SomeWillLieSomeNot : ....Its so fucking easy for the government to put and end to this but still they wont!
Me: No it isn't! It is a f*ck1ng waste of time! Ever tried to debate with a creationist? They always do a gish gallop (look it up using google!) and they keep on moving the goal posts.
ehum......well...i started to read up on loads on things just a few months ago...about FR.A AND IPR..ED internet laws that could be used as a censor law..well its first said it came from E
politicians promised us that no IPRED OR FRA law was forced here...still it was...So we ourself are questioning the political parties right now...and so PIRATE PARTY was made..and are in germany and other countries! freedom of speach!
i mean...its not fiction that USA is making laws alittle here and alittle there..still the internet wasnt born yesterday! Nuff of that...FRA has allready been missused in norway i think it was or in denmark, for spying on polititians!
SomeWillLieSomeNot said: And from regular gass powered stovens u can have pans heating up far beyond ordinary fires and it will still not bend or melt? right? that alone? is a valid question to why a bulding like building 7 pankake from an orinary fire!
Me: You are guessing again! And constructing contradictory hypotheses again!
That is: There is direct proof for bend trusses for WTC1+2, in WTC5 they were directly observed and in all major burning WTC buildings bend trusses were found.
Let me explain what i mean about mass and the size of fire...U can take a regular frying pan and have a plasma cutter (i think its called that in american) and u have a small hotspot....well u can melt threw it....but the surroundings of the pan wouldnt melt since the heat is fixed...as i said befor...beneath the fires in both the tall towers and wtc7 wasent as heatened...far from...its a point of heat...thats why im saying wtc7 shouldnt fail from those small fires!
SomeWillLieSomeNot said: ....its? a freaking miracle building 5 hold out longer then the wtc7
Me: No miracle, just your incredulity. Let's summarize again:
1. The floor spans of WTC5 were smaller.
2. The building was lower and thus less bearing weight.
3. WTC5 was collapsed..kind of...that is: Most of the interior was collapsed. Meaning most of the outer wall was freestanding. Which is easier for a lower building than the much higher WTC7.
I dont know if i can agree with that...i do however agree with much more WEIGHT on the towers and wtc7...but those steel structures was built far bigger and stronger than in wtc5...just look up clips of the dimensions on them!
Yes i saw a clip with the interior fallen apart...but still...smaller building with smaller steel beams melts far faster than bigger ones! u have the key of mass there! And thats why i think the explanation of wtc7 failed!..Do you got pics of wtc7?
Well i ment the videos ive been looking on thats what i ment...things can be manipulated for sure....both from medias side and regular people trying to put a joke on youtube...But theres aswell a fact for you...government hasnt realy denied or tried to debunk those movies....Its so fucking easy for the government to put and end to this but still they wont!
And heres another thing...yet fuels is verry flamable for sure...and it would get burned up in a verry short amount of time if it where to ignite...in this case an explosion(seen in the videos)...Still fuel like that heat upwards not downwards...it can burn threw...but to think it burned threw both towers in that amount in time is redicouluse...since then we would se fires going downward!
You said: But there are to many things on here that makes me doubt!
Me: Funny! That is EXACTLY(!) what fundamental creationists are saying too!
Do you also believe the world is only 6000 years old?
If not than why do you believe all that wild unsupported and often contradictory truther nonsense.
You want an example?
Again: Please explain why WTC5 was about to collapse by fire alone? This is a fact! And in contrast you refuse to accept that WTC7 did collapse by fire alone. Why?
Well i dont know what to believe actualy..thats the main problem! I mean its a FACT that hitler brainwashed milions of people..and yes it can happen inside a democrasy aswell jut look at teheran votings etc...People hardly doesnt even vote anymore!
And from regular gass powered stovens u can have pans heating up far beyond ordinary fires and it will still not bend or melt? right? that alone is a valid question to why a bulding like building 7 pankake from an orinary fire!
And as i said...wtc5 was a far smaller building than wtc1 2 and 7...And it would take more damage from the debree than wtc7 since its much smaller..And still again the fire was far more intence on wtc5 than on wtc7...or so it looks anyway, still it hold on longer..and only some parts of it collapsed...not the whole building!
So basically you are guessing about WTC5 and desperately trying to find an excuse, any excuse, in order to uphold your conspiracy complex.
All the while ignoring each and every technical report and totally ignoring the fact that WTC7 had much wider floor spans critically depended on less support beams bearing a much greater load.
This on top of ignoring the fact that the FDNY, present(!) at the site, already knew hours before that WTC7 was going to collapse.
Any excuse no...I do know that a smaller wood house would get crushed by a far bigger wooden house if it stood to close and thats pretty obvious it would take more damage then world trade center 7 dont u agree?
Besides do you think wtc5 and wtc7 are built with the exact same sice of steel structure do you?
Im not ignorant, but from what ive heard the reports have been tossed arround like a feather ball with no actual final conclusion to what happened!
First of all u got one of the questions totaly wrong!
I said if U BELIEVED that wtc5 and 7 was built with the same kind of steel structure...and me for one does understand that the steel in wtc7 had dimentions that would fit that building! And as i said, from what ive seen the fires from wtc7 was far to smal to bring it down!
And again...wtc5 was smaler and took far more damage then wtc7 just look at some clips!...So i dont understand why u so mad about it?
And yet again....wtc5 never fell...it had some interior structure collapse...but it never fell! wtc7 on the other hand pankaked! and ive never seen any posted pics os clips from after the wtc7 collapse! no air wiev no nothing!
Sure i would agree with u that todays technology with computers and such can manipulate videos e.t.c! But did u know that internet was built more or less for war issues? Exactly who said that i do not know but im gonna research it...and this was way back befor 911 and the it crisis!
Yes I know about the origin of the packed switched network (=DARPA). But what is the relevance?
And Yes! You can manipulate videos. But all of them? And all people involved with these videos are lying? All thousands of people clearing the site are all lying as well? All the people calling from flight 77, 175, 93 and 11 were all lying too? All engineering universities of all the world are lying?
Again, you are desperately trying to construct a contradictory excuse.
Im not desperately trying to do anything! Im not even living in america, Im not even born in America!
I didnt talk about the truth videos u have seen though...i talked about the conspiracy videos...u realy should look at them...there are plenty news casts clips that didnt even aired etc...statment from people at the ground 911 claiming bombs etc..
Packed switched network? never heard of it that way maybe thats because im from sweden :P
I now you were from Sweden. This was a dead giveaway in the character set I saw you used.
By the way, I have lived in Oslo for three years. I am also not American, I am Dutch. But what is the relevance of all this? None!
As for the packed switched network:
In a packed switched network any number of nodes may be randomly destroyed. But as long as there is one connection left the data can always arrive. That(!) was the DARPA innovation.
ok now i know what DARPA is then i can look into that aswell!
Oslo is a nice place to make money from fishing...was that what u did? well u can make loads of money so it wouldnt surprice me!
hehe nice u reccon it...well...Noone is flawless i guess :)
I hope ur right though....that all this is an illusion...but as i said befor the big picture is more worth than a corner of it and i cant still get it why they totaly failed that day on 911..i mean there are many many many questions!
our generation arround 35 years and back in time is ignorant people...we have never seen a real war...Thats why its so damn important to read up on history etc...So that it doesnt come to a world war 3....And if we are going onto that topic here we get of topic so i wont type it all here!
SomeWillLieSomeWillNot said: our generation arround 35 years and back in time is ignorant people...we have never seen a real war...
Me: I have not seen a real war either. Thank god!
But in the 20 months I was in the army about 270 people died. Most by accident, some murders (including murdered civilians), and some suicides. I have personally seen thousands of corpses (skeletons actually) and nearly lost my life myself. Where? In the middle east (Egypt and Israel). And you?
Please explain why WTC5 was about to collapse as a consequence of structural damage due to fire alone. Please keep in mind that exactly zero explosives and zero explosive devices were found in WTC5.
Which, by the way, is the same amount of explosives found in the rubble of WTC7, or in any other WTC rubble for that matter.
Listen to the Norad tapes. There is absolutely no mystery. Everything, and I mean everything, has a logical explanation.
To start with, even the collapse of WTC7 as opposed to the non-collapse of WTC5. That is, contrary to WTC5, WTC7 had enourmous floor spans. This means that the expansion and subsequent contraction of the floor spans of WTC7 was substantially greater than WTC5. Hence the almost structural failure of WTC5 versus the structural failure of WTC7. QED.
Why is the structural damage of WTC5 ignored by truthers? Can they not handle the truth? And I mean FACTUAL INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRMED and DOCUMENTED truth, not speculation.
Observation:
You can thumb down this question as much as you like (as was done previously). But thumbing down comments does NOT make these FACTS disappear.
Well...its not the questions only about the towers (even if world trade center 7 is kinda a mysteriouse thing)
There are plenty of other things... that went worng that day all from norad to george W Bullshit opps ment bush!
If u sum it up....there are plenty questions and not only a few...and the fact remains the totaly ignores the questions....All the things that can fail...failed one in the same day in washington...And that alone sounds fucked up!
And to build buildings like that without any defence system is fucked up in the first place...those towers just begged to get attacked one way or another, inside job or not....But still the government is totaly ignoring it and calling ordinary people idiots and psycho cases just for asking questions that indeed are important....Thank god im not living there...allthough i feel for the people!
SomeWillLieSomeWillNot said: And to build buildings like that without any defence system is fucked up in the first place...those towers just begged to get attacked one way or another, inside job or not....
Me: That is a non sequitur! Name one high rise building in the world that has an air defense system. There are none! (except from some obvious military or government buildings).
Thats what i mean...they should build some defence system in the highets towers..so they can have an over sight over the city and a good chance to fire a misile at a good distance...All tall buildings must not have it..in wtc 1 2 case it would be plenty with 1 misile tower!
Your suggestion for a missile defense system on public high rise buildings world wide is noted but utterly irrelevant for the sequence of events on 9/11 in New York.
I would appreciate if you address and answer the observation that WTC5 was about to collapse due to fire alone and, at the same time, why you assume a collapse by fire alone is impossible for WTC7. And not dodge this observed fact.
Well from what i saw, the building itself is far smaller then the wtc 1 2 7, so no wonder it would take far more damage...And the fact is it burned for hours, some claim it didnt even collapse.
Plus there was far more intense fires in that building!
Ok...Airplane fuel is said to burn at arround 1300 degrees C...Steel has a melting point arround 2600 something.
Sure it was large fires but if u look at other clips they have had buldings that burnt for hour and hours and never collapsed du to regular fires in steel buildings!
And for a massive steel bulding like wtc 1 and 2 to collapse like they did with almost free fall and no resistance on the way down makes me wonder...and that goes for wtc 1 2 and 7...Sure it might of weekend the steel...But it wouldnt weakened the whole tower since the fire was far over the middle at each towers
Then we come into the molten steel theory or the thirmate theory...that would INDEED weeken all the towers....But then again they are denying thermite and explosions...even if there are people with sample from the site claiming there was both thermate and explosives!
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megamogx 4 months ago
Kevin Barrett is right. Just prove him wrong. Debunkers can't.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Is he,or do you just believe him.
To take down just one tower and virtually pulverise it would take approximatly 67 tons of explosives,how long do you think it would take to set that up.
If explosives were used why was there NO damage to nearby bldgs above the 20th floor,and why was`nt there bits of the towers found on the roofs of said buildings.
CCD it was not.
He`s probably right about the US government having something to do with it though.
2000tc88 3 months ago
@2000tc88 Do you think the government had something to do with it? A 767's engines were not designed to achieve 420 knots at 700 feet therefore whatever hit the twin towers was not a commercial airliner. Examination of the facts will reveal the truth.
Daddyo930 3 months ago
@Daddyo930 What has plane speed got to do with what I said.
I think the government know a LOT more than what they are telling,so does he.
If it was not a commercial airliner as you say, then what was it??
Why do you think he is right in saying it was a CCD.
I`ve told you why it was`nt.
2000tc88 3 months ago
@2000tc88 The first law of thermodynamics says energy cannot be created or destroyed therefore there would not be enough potential energy in the building to reduce it to rubble. That's why your assertion of explosives being impossible cannot be correct. It must be considered as an option as no one can explain where the energy came from to reduce the building to rubble.
Daddyo930 3 months ago
@Daddyo930 Your right out there are`nt you,you ramble on about a planes speed,which had nothing to do with any of my comments.
Now it`s energy cannot be created,are you for real???.
Your first sentence is CRAP.
You are a waste of time.
2000tc88 3 months ago
@2000tc88 It's not my fault you were so poorly educated. Anyone cal easily google the first law of thermodynamics. The law states that energy can be transformed, i.e. changed from one form to another, but cannot be created nor destroyed. That means a cup cannot spontaneously explode because there is not enough potential energy in the cup for it to do that. It takes energy to destroy the cup. Is this too far over your head? Do you need to take some asprin?
Daddyo930 3 months ago
2000tc88 3 months ago
@2000tc88 Good for you. Drinking too much will destroy your liver though. I guess that's probably another conspiracy theory.
Daddyo930 3 months ago
so they r passing the bill to ban this guy from teaching... where is so called freedom of speech now
777Chatha 7 months ago 2
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In the year 2000 all the worlds lights are going to go off because someone forgot to punch in a few extra digits in the computers. All the worlds nukes will go off, and the government will come in and enslave all it's people, and put them in brainwashing and concentration camps... oh wait, what? It didn't happen? You're kidding! Fuck me, I saw evidence....
mechaghostman2 7 months ago
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They may call themselves "Jews", but they are actually converted Khazar Zionist. They follow the Talmud and Kaballa, which reveals grave findings. There are African tribes(The Lemba) with far more Hebrew DNA than anyone living in Israel. ISRAEL IS A HUGE LIE, and according to the Christian Bible, the people of Israel are from "The Synagog's of Satan" ...9/11 = 100% INSIDE JOB....WW1, WW2, ? <---A great deal of the facts were hidden. Search: "Jewish Nazi"
Born2Flesh 7 months ago
"...the US government probably orchestrated the September 11th attacks"...?
NO!? YA THINK!???
This teacher should get a medal.
And this guy, too: He's gonna' blow the lid off all this. Watch this 7 part interview - AND this guy has the credentials to back it up.
youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs&feature=player_embedded
gemriderz 8 months ago
john sudder is a fag and a puppet.. get him off from the legislation..idiot disgrace to all americans we are weak minded individuals
mikedomes 9 months ago
Funny, CNN was part of the orchestration on 9/11 and they well know it. When the time comes certain producers at CNN will stand next to Dick Cheney, John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Bill and Hillary, and the Bushes on trial for treason, fraud, racketeering, extortion, and murder.
IranContraScumDid911 9 months ago
A real patriot should be allowed to ask questions and not be marked as crazy or terrorist. The curtain is falling, people are waking up; now we need just 1 to kick 'em out of their beds and take to the streets. Enough is enough..... power to the people. Fuck the NWO.
sswemmer 9 months ago
It is an ''embarrassment'' to not look at the evidence....It is an ''embarrassment'' that a country would turn an eye to the facts and fall for a game. It is unpatriotic to not look at the evidence and to study what really happened that day. It hurts to look yes...but it is the TRUTH.
Fiorwestcoast 10 months ago
whatever happened to freedom of speech eh, this guy starts to produce a theory and the government tries to shut him down and paint him out in the media as a traitor and an idiot, and yet its soldiers fight for "freedom" lol
BMXchris100 10 months ago
This MEDIA is so fucked up, everyone knows the Govt. Did it.
Fuck the MEDIA.
Mi37591 10 months ago 2
thats because MOST people drink fluoridated water and worship the KJV !
sickasso72 1 year ago
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I used to get offended at hearing the conspiracy theorists' irreverent, ignorant, immature disrespect for the dead.
Now I realize that nobody takes them seriously, and theyre all just a bunch of basement dwelling troll faggots anyway--salivating and rubbing their micropenises to the prospect of making the relatives of the dead cry, and their countrymen look away in shame...
DripsMetal 1 year ago
9/11/09 Dr. Barrett got an interview with Russia Today. Unfortunately he squandered his opportunity by telling RT viewers 4 lies in the first 4 minutes of his talk.
For information on an earlier KDKA radio interview Barrett gave, see my video "Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room"
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
OPERATION NORTHWOODS....
Jononutoob 1 year ago
FREE THINKERS ARE DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chaosad09 1 year ago
I was wondering if the black boxes (really bright orange) were ever found on 9/11? I called the New Your FBI office and was eventually connected to the guy who answers such questions. Keep in mind the rumor was that in the entire history of the black boxes they have all been found after an accident - except for the jets of 9/11. Um really! So I called. Here is the answer I got 8.5 years later. " That is a good question, I don't know." WTF! Lucy, I think yous got some expanin to do.....
lizardfirefighter110 1 year ago
@lizardfirefighter110 -- I recall reading about this in 2004 -- do a google search "WTC black boxes found". "In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center... were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone." I believe it.
starmanskye 1 year ago
@starmanskye What the hell happened the myriad of cameras surrounding the Pentagon? Would love to see footage of what the fuck really crashed into it. Cause let me tell ya folks it was no Jumbo Jet. Hell no!
Loejyrrab 11 months ago
I watched the 9/11 film explaining the conspiracy and i have to agree there's pieces to the puzzle missing.
1. The commission claims no black boxes were found yet on Jesse Venturas Conspiracy Theory the guy admits to seeing two black boxes personally.
2. In the film you can clearly see the plumes of smoke as it seems like charges are going off as the building crumbles to the ground.
3. The narrator explains that many of the supposed hijackers are still alive.
Watch the film sometime!
jambandfreak1 1 year ago
I watched the 9/11 film explaining the conspiracy and i have to agree theres pieces to the puzzle missing.
1. The commission claims no black boxes were found yet on Jesse Venturas Conspiracy Theory the guy admits to seeing two black boxes personally.
2. In the film you can clearly see the plumes of smoke as it seems like charges are going off as the building crumbles to the ground.
3. The narrator explains that many of the supposed hijackers are still alive.
Watch the film sometime!
jambandfreak1 1 year ago
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Fire can not melt steel explosives can.
justicepartyuk 1 year ago
thats another stupid idea and mentality of the west ,
most people believe most people says most people dont like ...... what the most people knows about most of the things that they have no information what so ever ? how can i judge and make a comment about life in moon for example when i actualy dont know any thing about moon ?
well , this is just a good example of americans ignorancy .
m98m99 1 year ago
@m98m99 life in moon? thats life on the moon. just another example of someone who dont know any thing about america and still calls us "ignorancy". LOL!! were you calling us ignorant or arrogant? BTW. Most people i have met from verious other countries have been the most aroggant douche bags ive ever had the displeasure of meeting. not that all other people in other countries are douche bags, but its just one example of how small minded people can be, nomatter what country they are from.
chaosad09 1 year ago
@chaosad09 well , forgive my ignorancy but i didnt get the point on this video . but coming to your statment , every one is intitle for his idea . but having said his idea , we must understand the concept of IDEA and when an opinion become an idea ?
it takes some degree and stage to opinion become an IDEA .
coming to our point or i should say your point , the statment you have made is your opinion and necessitate my respect if it,s NOT MY recognizing .
thank you for your time my brother
m98m99 1 year ago
@m98m99 sory, i guess i was venting on you a litle. im just tired of every abody saying how stupid america is. it gets alitle anoying after a while. thank you and no hard feelings, : )
chaosad09 1 year ago
@chaosad09 Some things everyone needs to know to sort this out:
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
As for the the notion that this is too evil to have happened, that its offensive to think these things (or that there's going to be a new investigation), here's a video that deals with such ideas:
The Twin-Tower Sacrifice and the Oil Endgame watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo
iBlindGame 10 months ago
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Watch Friday Night's episode of Medium. They are planting the seed to Finger Larry Silverstein for 9/11. Larry should fess up and finger his CIA co-conspirators while he still lives. Watch it here> 1/4> watch?v=ZNxkR8Cgens , 2/4> watch?v=v_d9c3xdGIA , 3/4> watch?v=xoSi0383pK8 , 4/4> watch?v=gcrov5RTOiw
GunClingingPalin 1 year ago
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history will judge. 9/11 did not happen the way it was presented to the world.
Gonko100 1 year ago
MAINSTREAM MEDIA: ...well people believe these 911 truthers are nut-jobs because their evidence includes the lack of interceptor planes in the air and well the government is just plain mean sometimes. Back over to you Charlie in the studio.
jamezbond78 1 year ago
Balls of steel, this scott suder guy is using the oldest trick in the book, 'its offensive to the victims families', ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT, anyone who believes the official story simply doesnt have access to the alternative unbiased uncensored media, the internet!! Its a blatant inside job, so was 7/7!
wellifthemediasaysit 1 year ago
@wellifthemediasaysit YEAH FUCK SCOTT SUDER!! "What possible motive does the government have to kill 3000".... What a complete fucking moron, obvious retard media talking points. "It's offensive to the families". NO IT FUCKING ISN'T. This is attacking credibility of government and I know that the majority of 9/11 survivors and families that lost their loved ones SUPPORT AN INVESTIGATION. Nobody is taking you seriously Scott, and now we all know you are a fucking liar!!!!!!!
ultradeth7 1 year ago
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@wellifthemediasaysit Total bullshit. Only a brainwashed fool thinks 9/11 was an inside job, get a clue, fool.
LONG LIVE THE USA!
LONG LIVE ISRAEL!
FUCK ISLAM AND ALL MUSLIMS!!!
BurnQuranSept11 1 year ago
THIS IS A TYPICAL 'FALSE FLAG' EVENT . GOVERNMENT MAKING PEOPLE BELEIVE IN AN ENEMY IN ORDER TO GET SUPPORT FOR A DIFFERENT AGENDA. LIKE THE WAR IN IRAQ.
OnlyBoo1 1 year ago
FYI.. CNN IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY GENERAL ELECTRIC (GE) ONE OF THE LARGEST MILITARY CONTRACTERS IN THE WORLD. MUCH OF THE UPPER ECHELONS OF MEDIA, THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, RELIGION AND POLITICS IS OPERATED BY THE SAME ELITE GROUPS OF INTERNATATIONAL FINACIERS.
THIS IS A FACT..
LOOK IT UP!
BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HEAR IS PRIMED TO MISLEAD AND QUELL DISSENT.
CARE2DOTCOM 1 year ago
Why would this be offensive to the victims and their families. That's a silly statement. I've heard that before. People want the real truth for these families. That is not offensive.
lovethe1wolves 1 year ago
Basically, this story is about a professor who believes that shennanigans were behind 9/11 AND the subsequent shake-down politicians and special interests are bringing down on the school, to fire this man. In other words, question authority - question the government, and your ability to work - make a living, will be under assault. What a way to keep people in line.
deanfromvenice 1 year ago
@deanfromvenice FASCISM.. SOCIALISM.. COMMUNISM..
LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS AGAIN BECAUSE IN FACT.. IT'S NOT AN OPINION.. THAT IS THE REALITY WE ARE FACING..
SEARCH STAN JONES SPEECH & WATCH AS A STATE LEGISLATER WARNS THE COUNTRY OF A COMMUNIST ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT IN CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS THE REAL THREAT AND THERE IS LITTLE TIME LEFT TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.
GOOGLE: 'WAR PROTESTERS HOUSES BEING RAIDED'
FBI doing it to LOOK for evidence! THIS IS NOT AMERICA.
CARE2DOTCOM 1 year ago
@deanfromvenice In fact there are laws on the books as we speak calling war protesters TERRORISTS!
It is now a crime to discuss the government in the fashion we are & protesting thE Gov is now a CRIME!
GOOGLE: 'SPY SATALITES TARGETTING AMERICANS'
GOOGLE: 'THE CFR'
CHILDRENS HISTORY BOOKS NOW TEACH THEM ABOUT THE 'NEW WORLD ORDER'.. GOOGLE IT.
WE ARE THREE QAURTERS DOWN A PATH TO A ONE WORLD COMMUNIST ORDER..
PRESIDENTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES ARE NOW WARNING AMERICANS!
CARE2DOTCOM 1 year ago
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All 9/11 conspiracy theories can be explained scientifically: go see it your self if you are looking for truth and not propaganda BS !!!
debunking911. c o m
jod911 . c o m
911myths . c o m
You are protecting Radical Islam - Bin Laden him self said he planed it and that Al-Kaida did it !
creatingfl 1 year ago
this video is offensive.
BlondeEyeCandy 1 year ago
I tended to believe the media until a year ago,do your research people,BIN LADEN ISNT EVEN CHARGED WITH 9/11 !!!!
LukeRoxALot 1 year ago
PURE TRUTH! No matter what that is!!!
knjnrpap 1 year ago
Zicker...a jew in class?
Like the jew owner of WTC Complex...the one who won 12 billions thanks to the attacks...after signing an insurance police covering specificly terrorism acts 6 months before 911...??
Killing 3.000 with tax payers money...just to praise Jew´s hate for muslims while gaining a good sum of millions in the process and take fully control of the US...cutting citizens rights...
That´s NOT OFFENSIVE,..right?
Funfisique 1 year ago
@Funfisique Believe it or not I'm a Jew who agrees with your assessment of Silverstein, the big ass crook who is knee deep in guilt for his part in blowing up NYC. Jews like him will eventually get Jews like me sent to concentration camps. I wouldn't mind so much if old Larry himself was in there too. I'd love to see him hang, along with all the other 9/11 insisde jobbers!
Loejyrrab 11 months ago
Fired...
Funfisique 1 year ago
F*** you Scott Suder!!!!
ugoezy 1 year ago
BLIND SHEEP WOULD SAY NO TO 9-11 BEING AN INSIDE JOB I WISH IT WASN'T BUT ANALYSE THE FACTS PEOPLPE (NWO) WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE SO SCARED TO OPPOSE THE GOVERNMENT AREN'T THEY FOR THE PEOPLE AREN'T THEY THE PROTECTORS OF OUR FREEDOM COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSION
1990banks 1 year ago
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If we all put on our tinfoil hats it is obvious the planes were controlled by Jewpower and coincidentally quite by accident impacted the buildings at the same time the Freemasons and the Jew-Massud George Bush conspiracy detonated nanothermite explosives at key points within the buildings infrastructure. Seems so obvious now, duh? And don't forget the catalysts.
takesinbjs247 1 year ago
what a badass
slapme7times 1 year ago
jordan maxwell
d m murdock
jazzmaster1972 1 year ago
No Black Box found! Govt in Govt. I mean Madoff fooled SEC for 20 years.A Firefighter found a bod in closet before he was able to exsca
stephenrhaylock 1 year ago
its offensive to blow up twin towers to bring in fascist laws oops I mean "anti terrorism laws" :|
Jacintalee24 1 year ago
Israeli Traitor Zionists Did It!
They did it.
jackfr3 1 year ago 3
This guy was trying to teach this crap in a college...A college isn't some crackpot blog proffesor...Professors are supposed to be interested in the truth. Not his crackpot theories...God, what a lame ass fool...Believing there were no planes at the Pentagon and Shanksville. His friend believes a Space Ray took down the Towers....But I've heard they have since had a spit becouse he thought the space ray was to wacky...But I guess the Silent Explosives arent.
JPPolachek 1 year ago
@JPPolachek so your telling us you believe jet fuel pulverized millions of tons of steel and concrete right? is that what your tellling us?
MCHESTER29 1 year ago
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Hermann Goering Hitlers # 2
85Tourist 1 year ago
@85Tourist well siad
MCHESTER29 1 year ago
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@85Tourist well said
MCHESTER29 1 year ago
Google PNAC
85Tourist 1 year ago
not knowing is also offensive to the victims surviving family & friends
yuchoobstalker 1 year ago
911 inside job
copperwaxwing 1 year ago 2
but its starting to break apart and bits of the truth are starting to spring to light. and whats the main stream media say ??? conspiracy theory....... they preach propaganda for the government they defend the government,
neozzyinu 1 year ago
most people do believe 911 was an inside job... most people believe the main stream media is full of shit, most people believe war on terror is a war for oil.. most people are FUCKING PISSED OFF..
neozzyinu 1 year ago
kevin barrett is the man! keep teaching the truth.
Jeezy42O 1 year ago
Asking questions and fighting for freedom/truth is not offensive to 9/11 victims families....it's supporting them.
CNN and all the other large media outlets are PURE propaganda. Don't Believe the hype!!!
PeaceIsRad 1 year ago 2
Classic example of the media being used to tell people what to think and keep them ignorant. Nice to see people on this board who don't buy into this horseshit.
MikeRec21 1 year ago
Disrespectful to the family members - An organization called the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders, and survivors, has been gathering signatures to place a referendum for a new 9/11 investigation on the November ballot in New York City
Fred7038 2 years ago 2
Look at U.S. Government trying to shut down free speech.
Fucking bullshit. Fuck them.
dawson01912 2 years ago
Mr Barett you are a hero and the American school system should be ashamed of the selves, naturally those opposing your views has not done any research of the evidence themselves and have not read the FEMA or NIST reports
jockefr1 2 years ago 2
The assertion that the collapse of the towers could have occurred with explosives, and that the planes were not enough to bring them down, has full academic merit.
Neanderthalcouzin 2 years ago
Mr. Barrett, I hope you are doing well, it has been a long time since I've heard from you. I know the system destroyed you since you came out in public with this info. I remember your old radio show, wish you would come back on Genesis or Republic Broadcasting.
Thanks for what you've done.
Kerrville911Truth 2 years ago
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TOP FIVE 911 TWOOFER LIES
1) Nanothermite (aka paint chips from PPG)
2) No flight 93 (despit 95% of plane debris recovered)
3) No flight 77 (even though over 150 witness saw a plane)
4) Marvin Bush WTC security (never happened)
5) Free fall speed (absolutely no building fell a freefall speed)
ctcole77 2 years ago
"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles." Michael Rivero.
sk8rpunks1313 2 years ago
Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.
sk8rpunks1313 2 years ago 22
@sk8rpunks1313 Probably the most salient and accurate comment ever.
ricorreze 1 year ago
@sk8rpunks1313 Some things everyone needs to know to sort this out:
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
As for the the notion that this is too evil to have happened (or that there's going to be a new investigation), here's a video that deals with that idea:
The Twin-Tower Sacrifice and the Oil Endgame watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo
iBlindGame 10 months ago
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@sk8rpunks1313 Michael Tsarion is the worlds premier conspiracy researcher/lecturer/author. Dr. Bill Deagle, Leo Zagami, Jordan Maxwell and Alexandre Dumas pere are highly informative as well. p.s. melting Euphoria is similar to Ozric Tentacles and Gong
augustmaquet 7 months ago
not all americans r oblivious to this shit. plenty of people know wuts goin on but decide to keep theor mouths shut everyones brainwashed
akronzips101 2 years ago
"its offensive for the victims and for its families" to support the theory that the country killed 3,000 of its citizens to gain billions in war policies ..... yeah right !! BEHOLD THE MAGIC BULLET THEORY !!! guess what , its the truth !!! looool .... Americans are so fkin stupid that its embaressing how they represent human kind !! they had a great opportunity to avenge evil but still they choose to believe the BS ... America : you will never wake up in time , all you see is money !!
yuxn 2 years ago 3
The Sheeple of this earth don't want to believe that people inside a government would do this to them, so its dismissed with out another thought. All these so called planes vaporized and not 1 black box was found. 3000 people were murdered that day and they were turned to dust. But the most amazing thing is, one of the hijackers passport managed to survive the plane vaporizing, the massive explosion, the controlled demolition and was found on the sidewalk at the bottom of the tower ??
giptonsilly 2 years ago 21
100 percent correct
thefightbeginswithu 2 years ago
@giptonsilly Well said! and there was me believing that humanity were intelligent THINKING beings... silly moi :-)
dabbywabby1979 1 year ago
@giptonsilly just coincidence.
thewigwamtribe 1 year ago
@giptonsilly well if you say everyone evaporated out of thin air and their passports were not found, what exactly does that mean? i don't understand. (i'm a 15 year old canadian bare with me lol) also, what are these black boxes everyones talking about? is that some part of the plane?
thanks.
RIP 9/11 victims. <3
BlondeEyeCandy 1 year ago
@BlondeEyeCandy We are told the plane vaporized in a giant fireball that was clearly viable when the planes crashed so if everything vaporized including titanium engines that melt at over 3000*C how would a bit of paper in the pocket of a hijacker survive, its a total fantasy. Oh the black box is actually Orange in colour and records everything that is happening to the plane up till impact, Data and cockpit recordings. Why don't they call it the Orange box then ? 9/11 was an inside job
giptonsilly 1 year ago
@giptonsilly
Are you sure the black box stops recording after impact?(j/k) They are not "usually" orange they are all orange, so that they can be located after a crash. The term "black" was coined because at one time were black. You are associating "vaporized" with only heat from a fire or explosion, keep in mind the high speed and massive kenitic energy involved.
DjSmurf84 1 year ago
@giptonsilly
ACTUALLY YOUR WRONG, SORTA..
2 Identicle PASSPORTS for the SAME TERRORIST WERE FOUND! LOOK IT UP.
BUILDINGS WERE BEING REPORTED AS CALLAPSING BEFORE THEY EVER FELL! LOOK IT UP. WATCH THE VID WHERE THE REPORTER CLAIMS BUILDING 7 FELL WHILE YOU CAN STILL SEE IT IN THE BACKGROUND, UNTIL THE FEED IS PULLED WHEN THEY REALIZE THIS STUPID MISTAKE. SAME THING HAPPENED IN AUSSI!
NO STEEL REINFORCED BUILDING EVER FELL FROM FIRE!
3 FELL ON 9-11!
THOSE ODDS ARE BEYOND REALITY.
CARE2DOTCOM 1 year ago
@CARE2DOTCOM No need to shout mate, I think you will find most people know all these things your talking about, I find it a little insulting when people shout GOOGLE It as if your the only one that knows what is going on in the world. People are finally waking up to the new world order's agenda and I agree with you on the passport issue, the same morons fucked up at the London bombings when 2 passports were found at the same station.Bin Laden is not wanted for 9/11 look at the FBI most wanted .
giptonsilly 1 year ago
@giptonsilly another more recent and detailed analysis is here if you utube search: 911 - NIST : A New Standard of Deception - Kevin Ryan. (FULL)
I also posted a compilation of videos, links, documentaries and articles titled: "My Thoughts on 9/11 and False Flag Terrorism - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that if you're interested.
Chidanandaji 10 months ago
No way in hell is some guy gonna fly me to my death while I sit idly by....
Picture a plane-load of people all choosing to DIE, rather than get cut by a fuckin box cutter.
No Way, wouldn't happen...
I think at least half the people would fight back....
Call me a crackpot (I don't care) but I think the 2nd plane was a big-ass drone, loaded with explosives. It made good cover while they blew the charges already in the building....
nightmathzombieethan 2 years ago
Generally i have found that the people who jump up and shout that this was not an inside job, know nothing about that day and nor do they want to.
skyrabbit74 2 years ago
It wasn't .. try me.
mahnameiswin 2 years ago
Ok then : )
1. Whats the tube on the bottom of the second plane?
I think its funny that the mainstream media are saying its offensive to the victims families yet its the families that started this.
skyrabbit74 2 years ago 3
The resolution of cameras weren't as good as they are nowadays. It was the airplanes right fairing with the right amount of sunlight, which gave it an exaggerated appearance. It was reflections, NOT a missile.
mahnameiswin 2 years ago
2:01 i fucking agree
will2jack 2 years ago
I agree it wasnt a missile. It was an E-10. The bottom of a 747 should be smooth but yet every single pic shows the tube structure. The frontal pic even shows that something under is raised. This also explains why so many claimed the plane was gray. You seem intelligent enough. Look at all of the facts, not just the people that say, "because we said so". Is it a horrible thought? Yes. You have to be more intelligent than they think you are capable of.
skyrabbit74 2 years ago
From a purely logical and mathematical stand-point of the hottest temperature of jet fuel being 1500 o F, the melting point of structural steel being 2800 o F, the heat from a thermite bomb being around 5000 o F, or 4532 o F to be exact (2500 o C x 1.8 = 4500 o F + 32 = 4532 o F).something HOTTER THAN A 2800 o F "jet fuel fire" was needed to MELT the STRUCTURAL STEEL FRAME-WORK of the WTC buildings into a MOLTEN STATE on September 11th
paintandillustrate 2 years ago 2
paintandillustrate,
What is it what you want to say?
What has molten steel to do with the collapse on 9/11?
What has thermite to do with 9/11?
None of the buildings collapsed because of molten steel.
None of the buildings contained any trace of thermite or any other trace of incendiary substance that can be linked to the collapse.
Therefore, mentioning the temperature of burning thermite is as relevant as mentioning the temperature of the surface of the sun.
Regards, Wim Ahlers.
wimahlers 2 years ago
These buildings were built to withstand planes and helicopters crashing into them. That was a prerequisite when building the WTC. I'm saying once the planes hit the buildings a thermite bomb may have been deteonated to drop the buildings in a hour.
paintandillustrate 2 years ago
paintandillustrate ,
You are just parrotting incredulous misinformation. These buildings were not built to withstand a deliberate full speed attack with fully fueled commercial airliners. And despite the circulating urban myth, nobody actually knew what the building could or could not withstand. There was not enough computer power in the1960ties to calculate all the variables. There is now!
Just before his death De Martini himself reported(!) that WTC1 was dangerously wounded.
wimahlers 2 years ago
paintandillustrate: These buildings were built to withstand...
Me: You are poorly informed.
These calculations were base on:
a) kinetic impact only (thus fires were excluded)\
b) and NOT based on deliberate maximum speed impact.
Not to mention the fact that these buildings did indeed not collapse immediately. A miracle by itself.
And not to mention the fact that I can back up my above statements by the testimonies of the original engineers and by all engeneering universities.
wimahlers 2 years ago
actually,you're wrong...there was evidence of thermite...go find the info yourself,it's out there....don't take my word for it,I'm a stranger to you...but please,don't just take the official story either,cause they don't know you and would lie to you just as easily as I could...I have no gain in telling you what I believe..What do they have to gain by lying to you?Read everything,listen to everyone,believe nothing,unless you can prove it with your OWN research...
prfctchins 2 years ago
prfctchins: ...there was evidence of thermite...
Me: No! There is not!
And yes! I have read it all. All of Harrit's paper and all of Jones's investigations and much of what he has written.
All of it is speculation. None - none! - of it is scientifically verified. And all speculations contain contradictory statements.
Btw, there is no such thing as one(!) official story. There are peer-reviewed papers. And none of the peer-reviewed papers are from Jones or Harrit et al.
wimahlers 2 years ago
See,there are many theories,and the "official" story is just another theory... can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt...just like all other theories....U don't think there aren't other possible explanations to what happened?..Too many unanswered questions.even you've gotta admit .You seem educated on the subject,admittedly prolly more than I,other than the official story,whats your take on it?If you've looked at most of the same shit I've seen,you can't possibly think the gov was honest..
prfctchins 2 years ago
prfctchins ,
Who is the government? The government has nothing to do with the attack. Other than, perhaps, the fact that in hindsight they have been a little sloppy with some of the information.
And there are no theories. There only is biased speculation, truthers, and scientific facts. Science: WTC1+2+7 collpased due to fire. WTC5 almost collapsed due to fire. The Pentagon wing collapsed due to fire. And all because of 19 idiots with a daring and assiduous plan. It is as simple as that.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Excellent, and there is video of molten iron pouring off a tower. But all that is baseless speculation to 911 fairytalers like wimahlers.
UNTC321 2 years ago
UNTC321: Excellent, and there is video of molten? iron pouring off a tower.
Me: No! There wasn't! The observed fire fountain could have many causes of which molten iron is the least plausible.
However, what was objectively(!) observed is that the outer support pilars progressively bowed inward and snapped at the moment of collapse. This can fully be explained. And this fact is also totally inconsistent with the thermite hypothesis. But I am anxious to hear your logical explanation.
wimahlers 2 years ago
There were globs of a glowing orange substance pouring off one of the towers. Firemen interviewed said below the rubble "there was molten steel running down the channels, like a foundry, like a volcano, like lava. You obviously have no idea of the constuction of the twin towers. The entire ectoskeleton could collapse and the core would remain. You are defending a lie so it is not easy.
UNTC321 2 years ago
funny how every bodys got a theory but nobodys got an answer......
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
indeed!
That is why I specifically and only deal in answers.
In contrast, truthers deal with baseless speculations.
Regards, Wim Ahlers.
wimahlers 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot ,
Why don't you read, for instance, Harrit's paper, so we can discuss something substantial instead of all the amateurish guess work you put up so far?
Regards, Wim Ahlers.
wimahlers 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
Again you totally ignore all factual technical details I provided and stubbornly keep on repeating your false assertions and strawman arguments.
Again: WTC7 did not - NOT! - collapse because of the damage inflicted by the collapse of WTC1. It collapsed BECAUSE OF the subsequent fire it initiated.
But you fiercely deny the WTC7 fire was large or hot enough. You are demonstrably wrong because you are contradicted by the FDNY who told upfront it was going to collapse.
wimahlers 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
You asked:
30 pages of harrit? and as i said im not downloading im just asking what it is!
Answer:
To my knowledge, Harrit's paper is just about the only paper that comes close, but not quite, to something almost representing an honest scientific inquiry by truthers.
All the rest is crap...especially all the unsupported bullshit of Jones and his irrelevant demonstrations of burning thermite he seems to demonstrate on so many boring layman meetings.
wimahlers 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
I am a software engineer by trade, though not a network expert. But that is completely irrelevant.
One advice:
Verify your sources! So far it shows you never do. Verify Harrit, Jones and such ilk. When scrutinized none - none! - of their claims remains standing. Don't believe me? Than name one claim!
By the way, to start: I have read and analyzed the complete 30 page article of Harrit. Would you like me to send you a link where you can download the report?
wimahlers 2 years ago
Im not downloading anything...What kind of software have u been involved with then?
Verify my sources? wtf? its all over youtube i dont even need to tell u where to go the only thing u need to do is SEARCH for the facts....And when it comes to FRA AND IPRED internet laws it should be known to you as an software developer!...
30 pages of harrit? and as i said im not downloading im just asking what it is!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
I don't know what FRA or IPRED is but I am quite sure that it is totally irrelevant for the terrorist attacks on 9/11 2001.
Also, just because something is published on youtube or the internet or in the media in general does NOT make it a fact. You have to verify IF it is correct BEFORE you can call something a fact. Do not take anything at face value but VERIFY.
And when you do verify you will discover that none of the truthers claims hold any ground.
wimahlers 2 years ago
And u should know by now that obama want an on off swtich on internet...talk about POWER?...one man to rule them all..fuck them if the truth should call...I mean that alone should wake people up when the coward didnt even turned up on the washington demonstration to face the protesters!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
AND btw did the washington protest even got aired? not in sweden...i had to watch THAT on youtube to even know it was there...That alone is to censor facts!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot : ....Its so fucking easy for the government to put and end to this but still they wont!
Me: No it isn't! It is a f*ck1ng waste of time! Ever tried to debate with a creationist? They always do a gish gallop (look it up using google!) and they keep on moving the goal posts.
Kinda what you are doing right now!
wimahlers 2 years ago
ehum......well...i started to read up on loads on things just a few months ago...about FR.A AND IPR..ED internet laws that could be used as a censor law..well its first said it came from E
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
to come from EU..but it was later found out to come from USA...just look at thepiratebay...Well...that made me research!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
politicians promised us that no IPRED OR FRA law was forced here...still it was...So we ourself are questioning the political parties right now...and so PIRATE PARTY was made..and are in germany and other countries! freedom of speach!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
i mean...its not fiction that USA is making laws alittle here and alittle there..still the internet wasnt born yesterday! Nuff of that...FRA has allready been missused in norway i think it was or in denmark, for spying on polititians!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot said: And from regular gass powered stovens u can have pans heating up far beyond ordinary fires and it will still not bend or melt? right? that alone? is a valid question to why a bulding like building 7 pankake from an orinary fire!
Me: You are guessing again! And constructing contradictory hypotheses again!
That is: There is direct proof for bend trusses for WTC1+2, in WTC5 they were directly observed and in all major burning WTC buildings bend trusses were found.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Let me explain what i mean about mass and the size of fire...U can take a regular frying pan and have a plasma cutter (i think its called that in american) and u have a small hotspot....well u can melt threw it....but the surroundings of the pan wouldnt melt since the heat is fixed...as i said befor...beneath the fires in both the tall towers and wtc7 wasent as heatened...far from...its a point of heat...thats why im saying wtc7 shouldnt fail from those small fires!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot said: ....its? a freaking miracle building 5 hold out longer then the wtc7
Me: No miracle, just your incredulity. Let's summarize again:
1. The floor spans of WTC5 were smaller.
2. The building was lower and thus less bearing weight.
3. WTC5 was collapsed..kind of...that is: Most of the interior was collapsed. Meaning most of the outer wall was freestanding. Which is easier for a lower building than the much higher WTC7.
4. Different load bearing for WTC5.
wimahlers 2 years ago
I dont know if i can agree with that...i do however agree with much more WEIGHT on the towers and wtc7...but those steel structures was built far bigger and stronger than in wtc5...just look up clips of the dimensions on them!
Yes i saw a clip with the interior fallen apart...but still...smaller building with smaller steel beams melts far faster than bigger ones! u have the key of mass there! And thats why i think the explanation of wtc7 failed!..Do you got pics of wtc7?
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot said: but those steel structures was built far bigger and stronger than in wtc5...just look up clips of the dimensions on them!
Me: I don't caree about videos. I care about specs!
Also, now you contradict yourself again! First you claim that videos can easily be manipulated and now you demand to trust the videos you suggest.
And again, I don't care about videos, I care about specs.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Well i ment the videos ive been looking on thats what i ment...things can be manipulated for sure....both from medias side and regular people trying to put a joke on youtube...But theres aswell a fact for you...government hasnt realy denied or tried to debunk those movies....Its so fucking easy for the government to put and end to this but still they wont!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
And heres another thing...yet fuels is verry flamable for sure...and it would get burned up in a verry short amount of time if it where to ignite...in this case an explosion(seen in the videos)...Still fuel like that heat upwards not downwards...it can burn threw...but to think it burned threw both towers in that amount in time is redicouluse...since then we would se fires going downward!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
You said: But there are to many things on here that makes me doubt!
Me: Funny! That is EXACTLY(!) what fundamental creationists are saying too!
Do you also believe the world is only 6000 years old?
If not than why do you believe all that wild unsupported and often contradictory truther nonsense.
You want an example?
Again: Please explain why WTC5 was about to collapse by fire alone? This is a fact! And in contrast you refuse to accept that WTC7 did collapse by fire alone. Why?
wimahlers 2 years ago
Well i dont know what to believe actualy..thats the main problem! I mean its a FACT that hitler brainwashed milions of people..and yes it can happen inside a democrasy aswell jut look at teheran votings etc...People hardly doesnt even vote anymore!
And from regular gass powered stovens u can have pans heating up far beyond ordinary fires and it will still not bend or melt? right? that alone is a valid question to why a bulding like building 7 pankake from an orinary fire!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
besides wasnt all the building aspets coated?
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
And as i said...wtc5 was a far smaller building than wtc1 2 and 7...And it would take more damage from the debree than wtc7 since its much smaller..And still again the fire was far more intence on wtc5 than on wtc7...or so it looks anyway, still it hold on longer..and only some parts of it collapsed...not the whole building!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
So basically you are guessing about WTC5 and desperately trying to find an excuse, any excuse, in order to uphold your conspiracy complex.
All the while ignoring each and every technical report and totally ignoring the fact that WTC7 had much wider floor spans critically depended on less support beams bearing a much greater load.
This on top of ignoring the fact that the FDNY, present(!) at the site, already knew hours before that WTC7 was going to collapse.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Any excuse no...I do know that a smaller wood house would get crushed by a far bigger wooden house if it stood to close and thats pretty obvious it would take more damage then world trade center 7 dont u agree?
Besides do you think wtc5 and wtc7 are built with the exact same sice of steel structure do you?
Im not ignorant, but from what ive heard the reports have been tossed arround like a feather ball with no actual final conclusion to what happened!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot, here are some of your older arguments:
You: if it (red. wtc5.) stood to close and thats pretty obvious it would take more damage then world trade center 7 dont u agree?
Me: Irrelevant! Relevant is: Neither WTC5 nor WTC7 were crushed. Both were destroyed by the fire AFTER some initial damage.
You: wtc5 and wtc7 are built with the exact same size of steel
Me: Irrelevant! Relevant is: Different designs and different heights.
You are again desperately mining for excuses.
wimahlers 2 years ago
First of all u got one of the questions totaly wrong!
I said if U BELIEVED that wtc5 and 7 was built with the same kind of steel structure...and me for one does understand that the steel in wtc7 had dimentions that would fit that building! And as i said, from what ive seen the fires from wtc7 was far to smal to bring it down!
And again...wtc5 was smaler and took far more damage then wtc7 just look at some clips!...So i dont understand why u so mad about it?
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
And yet again....wtc5 never fell...it had some interior structure collapse...but it never fell! wtc7 on the other hand pankaked! and ive never seen any posted pics os clips from after the wtc7 collapse! no air wiev no nothing!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
So actualy....its a freaking miracle building 5 hold out longer then the wtc7
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
Sure i would agree with u that todays technology with computers and such can manipulate videos e.t.c! But did u know that internet was built more or less for war issues? Exactly who said that i do not know but im gonna research it...and this was way back befor 911 and the it crisis!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
Yes I know about the origin of the packed switched network (=DARPA). But what is the relevance?
And Yes! You can manipulate videos. But all of them? And all people involved with these videos are lying? All thousands of people clearing the site are all lying as well? All the people calling from flight 77, 175, 93 and 11 were all lying too? All engineering universities of all the world are lying?
Again, you are desperately trying to construct a contradictory excuse.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Im not desperately trying to do anything! Im not even living in america, Im not even born in America!
I didnt talk about the truth videos u have seen though...i talked about the conspiracy videos...u realy should look at them...there are plenty news casts clips that didnt even aired etc...statment from people at the ground 911 claiming bombs etc..
Packed switched network? never heard of it that way maybe thats because im from sweden :P
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
I now you were from Sweden. This was a dead giveaway in the character set I saw you used.
By the way, I have lived in Oslo for three years. I am also not American, I am Dutch. But what is the relevance of all this? None!
As for the packed switched network:
In a packed switched network any number of nodes may be randomly destroyed. But as long as there is one connection left the data can always arrive. That(!) was the DARPA innovation.
wimahlers 2 years ago
ok now i know what DARPA is then i can look into that aswell!
Oslo is a nice place to make money from fishing...was that what u did? well u can make loads of money so it wouldnt surprice me!
hehe nice u reccon it...well...Noone is flawless i guess :)
I hope ur right though....that all this is an illusion...but as i said befor the big picture is more worth than a corner of it and i cant still get it why they totaly failed that day on 911..i mean there are many many many questions!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
our generation arround 35 years and back in time is ignorant people...we have never seen a real war...Thats why its so damn important to read up on history etc...So that it doesnt come to a world war 3....And if we are going onto that topic here we get of topic so i wont type it all here!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeWillNot said: our generation arround 35 years and back in time is ignorant people...we have never seen a real war...
Me: I have not seen a real war either. Thank god!
But in the 20 months I was in the army about 270 people died. Most by accident, some murders (including murdered civilians), and some suicides. I have personally seen thousands of corpses (skeletons actually) and nearly lost my life myself. Where? In the middle east (Egypt and Israel). And you?
wimahlers 2 years ago
Please explain why WTC5 was about to collapse as a consequence of structural damage due to fire alone. Please keep in mind that exactly zero explosives and zero explosive devices were found in WTC5.
Which, by the way, is the same amount of explosives found in the rubble of WTC7, or in any other WTC rubble for that matter.
Regards, Wim Ahlers.
wimahlers 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
Listen to the Norad tapes. There is absolutely no mystery. Everything, and I mean everything, has a logical explanation.
To start with, even the collapse of WTC7 as opposed to the non-collapse of WTC5. That is, contrary to WTC5, WTC7 had enourmous floor spans. This means that the expansion and subsequent contraction of the floor spans of WTC7 was substantially greater than WTC5. Hence the almost structural failure of WTC5 versus the structural failure of WTC7. QED.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Repeat:
Explain the structural damage of WTC5.
Question:
Why is the structural damage of WTC5 ignored by truthers? Can they not handle the truth? And I mean FACTUAL INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRMED and DOCUMENTED truth, not speculation.
Observation:
You can thumb down this question as much as you like (as was done previously). But thumbing down comments does NOT make these FACTS disappear.
Regards, Wim Ahlers.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Well...its not the questions only about the towers (even if world trade center 7 is kinda a mysteriouse thing)
There are plenty of other things... that went worng that day all from norad to george W Bullshit opps ment bush!
If u sum it up....there are plenty questions and not only a few...and the fact remains the totaly ignores the questions....All the things that can fail...failed one in the same day in washington...And that alone sounds fucked up!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
And to build buildings like that without any defence system is fucked up in the first place...those towers just begged to get attacked one way or another, inside job or not....But still the government is totaly ignoring it and calling ordinary people idiots and psycho cases just for asking questions that indeed are important....Thank god im not living there...allthough i feel for the people!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeWillNot said: And to build buildings like that without any defence system is fucked up in the first place...those towers just begged to get attacked one way or another, inside job or not....
Me: That is a non sequitur! Name one high rise building in the world that has an air defense system. There are none! (except from some obvious military or government buildings).
wimahlers 2 years ago
Thats what i mean...they should build some defence system in the highets towers..so they can have an over sight over the city and a good chance to fire a misile at a good distance...All tall buildings must not have it..in wtc 1 2 case it would be plenty with 1 misile tower!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
SomeWillLieSomeNot,
Your suggestion for a missile defense system on public high rise buildings world wide is noted but utterly irrelevant for the sequence of events on 9/11 in New York.
I would appreciate if you address and answer the observation that WTC5 was about to collapse due to fire alone and, at the same time, why you assume a collapse by fire alone is impossible for WTC7. And not dodge this observed fact.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Well from what i saw, the building itself is far smaller then the wtc 1 2 7, so no wonder it would take far more damage...And the fact is it burned for hours, some claim it didnt even collapse.
Plus there was far more intense fires in that building!
Ok...Airplane fuel is said to burn at arround 1300 degrees C...Steel has a melting point arround 2600 something.
Wtc5 didnt pankake from what ive seen!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
Sure it was large fires but if u look at other clips they have had buldings that burnt for hour and hours and never collapsed du to regular fires in steel buildings!
And for a massive steel bulding like wtc 1 and 2 to collapse like they did with almost free fall and no resistance on the way down makes me wonder...and that goes for wtc 1 2 and 7...Sure it might of weekend the steel...But it wouldnt weakened the whole tower since the fire was far over the middle at each towers
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
And as most know the HEAT climbs upwards not downwords!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago
Then we come into the molten steel theory or the thirmate theory...that would INDEED weeken all the towers....But then again they are denying thermite and explosions...even if there are people with sample from the site claiming there was both thermate and explosives!
SomeWillLieSomeNot 2 years ago