Damn Jews and Arabs need to quit their childish bullshit already. Put all you you in a opium field until you forget the stupid reason you were fighting for. !0 years later when you sober up, maybe you'll have matured beyond your racism by then,
Its an insult for Muslims to wear the name Palestinean. Christians laugh when they leave the room - they first placed this name on the Jews - in Judea, which was not an Islamic or Arab land but a Zionist plot.
The whole thing with the Arab mufti telling them not to turn is a bit inaccurate. It is true that the leaders told the Arabs to leave before the war, but Israel did not let them return(as opposed to your narrative).
@DahStranger Actually there is loads of evidence that at least some to many of them were allowed to come back, but the Arab leaders didn't want them too.
Elders of Ziyon has a blog with lots of actual headlines and stories from the time.
they invade US soil, with the backing from the globe, and took over 30-40% of US soil and built a wall to prevent access to now, ex-US soil, and continued to do this for 120+ years.
you're ok with that?
AND, continue to do thisagainst the UN and global sentiment, and reduced media coming out from the US to prevent a change of opinion and staged consistant attacks to increase that to beyond the 30-40%, right under the global's nose.
Again, no. If Palestine were a sovereign country, than things would have been different.
Arguing with someone who argues on the basis that Israel shouldn't or doesn't exist is futile for me, I might as well be arguing with someone who says the earth is flat.
You are a hypocrite. It is like saying the US occupies land that isn't theirs. Only 20% of the land was owned by Arabs (mostly absentee owners), 7% owned by Jews and the rest was state land. You get the concept of state land? Look it up.
Are Arabs in Dearborn Michigan occupying land that isn't theirs today?
If Canada wanted US soil, and proclaims it so, and then waged war, sanctioned all imports to the US, and took out US infrastructure to prevent the US from gaining basic human rights, like water and food, and convinced the world that they have a right to US soil, when they clearly do not.
Nope. Canada is a sovereign country. The Palestine region was not. In the late 1800's there were half a million people where today there are 9 million. Most of the last was uninhabited. There was room for a Jewish population to grow and govern itself by majority.
I'm not discussing religion here. By 1947 there was a Jewish majority where the Jewish governed part of the Partition was located. The Arabs rejected the Partition and the rest is history.
Bacon - do a history klesson that does ot involve TV and media - you are as jilted towards Muslims as a whole - you are a racist but defend it by popular sentiment, not facts.
Bacon - I am a Jew - so your sentiment about all this is lost on me.
You are clearly a muslim hater and fail to include the history and fail to see that what you experience is directly resulting from the displacement of the Muslims by Israeli actions that, Israel, do not hide.
You complain about the current situation but do not ask the intelligent questions
Israel is a pain in the ass, when you look at their oppression of homosexuals, women, and non-believers. Let's also look at all of their suicide bombing, in order to get into some star trek convention in the sky............wait a minute! That is what the Palestinians are doing.
Let's see................... I would like NO BOMBING. Don't give me that "Israel bombed Gaza" nonsense because if we compare that one time Israel had to do so for self defense, and the Muslims bombing..
I would give an actual argument, but this video does that for me. I would like to say that if you are certain that Israel is what you say it is, why don't you take a trip to any other land in the middle east. Tell them that you are not a Muslim, and try to see how long you can go, without being killed.
That is why the Muslims are the biggest religious minority in Israel? Israel's treatment of people firing rockets at them is better than the Palestinians, who do not even know how to treat their own citizens. Israel's not basing their laws on a book that was written by a pedophile.
you make a good point about sovereign land, i think you have to go back to the treaty of Westphahalia, which can not apply and is totally contradictary considering palestine was under British mandate/colonial rule.. Superficial meaningless drivle like "ARABS want jews to die" no longer flies..the USA and ISRAEL vote againt a UN resolution for peacefully settling the conflict..OPPOSING the rest of the WORLD! WHY?
yout logic makes no sense, why cannt a palestinian come back to his motherland after <60 yrs, if ALL jews no matter where in the world they are from are automatically allowed in based on some ancient claim of "the promised land"? DOUBLE STANDARDS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE!
I wonder why every year the USA and ISRAEL vote againt a UN resolution for peacefully settling the conflict??? i know who the enemy of peace is DO U?
Ethnically cleansed ROFLMAO. Good Arab propaganda Simon. Still doesn't matter though. A person born to two Palestinian parents in the US is an American. If born in the West Bank, he is not an Israeli either.
Arabs left mostly on their own. They should have accepted the partition.
It is the Arabs stalling peace talks. Hamas will not accept Israel as long as Jews are the majority there.
Nice Arab revisionism though. And I'm the asshole. LOL.
I agree with your point that the Palestinians are being used as a pawn for the Islamic cause. They wouldn't be refugees if surrounding countries had taken them in. Without Israel, who would they have to blame for anything?
More Palestinians are born each and every day than die. And most die of natural causes. No genocide going on. That is just Islamic assmonkey rhetoric.
You are ugly on the inside and the outside. When is your next beating from your Muslim husband due? One hour, maybe two? And of course, the beatings are the fault of the Joooo.
your an idiotic pathetic cunt arent you? its no wonder you people are so hated.... id always wondered why .... now everyone is realising it. you should be in a bodybag in iraq seeing as we are dying because you bastards kille americans. die you bastard DIE!!
I have a good time when I make my videos. I couldn't have a good time if I were you though, someone who waits for her next beating from her Muslim hubby.
Watch the language, or I'll ban you from my site.
And see a psychiatrist. Your hubby has given you too many blows to the head.
I'm happily married to a non Jew. I only dislike retards like you. Your sex doesn't matter. And if you were the last woman on this planet, I would neither have sex with you (because you look like a man and you are hateful inside as well) and I would not beat you either (because I'm not a Muslim man).
who cares who is more to blame. put your text book aside for just one minute and drop your chubby finger. no matter what you or i say there is no justice here, why cant isreal put down thier guns... oh bc they know that they are better ppl and the arabs would attack and abolish them? get a grip, isreal would do the same, if they were so riteous then they would not be exploiting peace to begin with. do yourself a favor and dont respond to this because your digging yourself even deeper into a hole
"Terrorists hide amongst the general population. No terrorists, no Israel bombings." so they just bomb the shit out of the general population? thats what you are saying, how is that any better? and sir, do you know how to ever defend your points without attacking your opponents intelect, because i think not. you are immature and prejudice. your lack of ability feel any sympathy for the other side of this matter is sickening,& Im glad so few people care what u say. you love to argue, thats all.
You are totally unable to put yourself in Israel's situation. You fail to see who the real victims are. And I'm sympathetic but my patience is worn thin. Look what happened when the Jews pulled out of Gaza. You just don't have a clue.
"war may be a nessicary evil, but no matter how nessicary, it is always evil." Jimmy Carter
you fail to see the children & innocent victims of this on all sides. because you are so ennveloped in proving ireals right over the land. i do know whats going on, i do know what happens, & no matter whos "side" i view i see nothing but blood and greed. i hold isreal dear to my heart for many reasons, you are no one to tell me what i can see. Open your eyes and see the truth, no one is justified here
I'm done with you. But before I stop replying I'll add, Israel is not perfect but the Palestinians are way more to blame for the mess than Israel. And no matter how much you don't believe it, if the Arabs grew up, there would be peace and Israel would not exploit the peace.
they have! i misunderstood what you wrote, i thought you were saying that it would be headlines if isreal was bombing in general. and there isnt much headline news on isreals part, because the news staions and cable stations are predominantly run by jews are you really that ignorant to trust what you see on the news? do you even take into concideration arab news arab reports? there are 2 sides to every story sir, sorry to break it to you. i have made up nothing, you are a stubborn fool.
if the arabs dropped thier arms they would be abolished, and you are a fool if you deny this. I'm sorry if i was an arab i would not concider that opption for a moment, bc isreal would take adavantage as i said, and if isreal did that the arabs would do the same, why can they not come up with a peace treaty of some sort? bc the jews believe that they have holy land or something below a masq, and the muslims are not about to blow thier place of worship up for the jews to prove thier scriputre.
That is crap. I know the total history. Again, most Jews are secular for one thing, but the 150,000 Arabs who stayed during and after the 1948 war didn't want to ever leave years after the war, and were not forced to leave. There are Arabs on the Knesset. Check out Elder of Ziyon's blog. He did a piece on the Arabs who stayed about 3 or 4 days ago.
yes, but what does that have to do with what i am saying? that means nothing in the fact that the jews would take advantage, they already, palestinians are abused everyday by the power that isreal has, and where are you getting all your facts from? because my guess is that it is from jews, and if it is you should accept that your information is most likely automatically biased!
how could you expect them not to? i personally know many good honest isreali jewish people, and they ALL agree! isreal tries to bomb one of the muslim masqs almost every day, and thier bombs kill so many innocents, just like the arabs bombs. they abuse the power that they have while the american army is there, by abusing palestinian innocents! that is a fact, what makes you think that they would not take advantage of winning such a tremendous war effort?after so many of thier ppl were murdered?
i am not biased, i am educated on both ends of the spectrum, people who KNOW first hand, first hand footage and documentation! i know where all of my sources come from, and they are not all jewish, muslim, or either! i formed my oppinion after years of research and facination. why can they not have equality n peace, because of religious nonsense that God told the jews as did mohamad to the muslims, that the land is thier holy land.so how can you say one side is right, or less violent in any way?
You are completely biased. Just because you say you aren't doesn't make it true.
You are making stuff up about bombing mosques. That is beyond biased for you to even consider it.
And like I said Herzl was not religious. Jews for the most part just wanted to escape anti-semitism, though some look at the West Bank as holy land. Israel isn't perfect, but the Palestinians are the biggest whiners and babies on this planet.
dont care who wins who gives up, the fact of the matter that innocent people are dying for ridiculous reasons... a god no one has seen. bottom line, it should be international land. if the jews are so riteous why dont they put down there arms? how do you know how the arabs would react to the jews if they were not violent? you dont know. so stop pretending like you have all the answers, if you did more people would have taken you seriously.
Should land in Saudi Arabia be international land too? How about Jordan?
Israel is only defending itself from rocket attacks. They left Gaza, and nothing but rockets are being fired from rockets. You aren't very bright at all. You know very little about the IP situation, and I think it is IQ related.
ok, i worded myself wrong in the last one, i dont have a "side" in this matter. and i disagree, i dont believe that there is a "right side" in this matter. but the fact of the matter is, that both sides treat eachother terribly, and are too biased to give in on either part. this is going to go on until something unimaginable ends it. i dont want to see this, but tell me, do you really believe the palestine is at fault here? or do you just agree more with isreal's side?
both sided are horrible to eachother, i have lost 2 friends to bus bombings, who were isreali jews, i dont hate isreal, i just dont think that they are right or more just than palestine.
honestly, it's how the Israelis treat the people of palastine that pisses me off. I couldn't give a rats ass about the un owned lands, but Israel has done a lot of stuff illegal in UN law. You should watch some of the vids in my favs that are to that effect. One thing israel does is to make land un owned, they cut water supplies to the arab houses to force them to leave. IT's friggen sick. And then theres the murder and all...
Why does Israel do these things? Put any other country in their shoes. If Mexico were the West Bank, and it was attacking the US in the same manner, Mexico would be a giant crater by now.
...idk about a crater, but it wouldn't be much different from Iraq, plus you know all the gun nuts would mobilize. But Israel started the war, they have all the tanks and claim to be victims, and they also seem to be doing a lot of killing of civilians for simple sport, there are a few of my favs that show that, like even stripping a guy on the street and shooting him in the head while he's laying down.
Israel did not start any wars. They have been under attack since 1948 with guns pointed at them. Where do you get your history from? If the Arabs dropped their arms there would be peace in the middle east. Sure, every army has sadists but Israel deals with them harshly.
Hey, you seem like a reasonable person, but I don't want to debate here, would you mind doing it privately? Thre just isn't enough room here to say everything I have to say within 500 characters.
I'm not really up for debate, been there done that. I don't know if you've seen my first video on the subject.
To me, Israel wasn't formed any different than any other country on the planet. The land was not sovereign until 1948...and like everywhere else might made right. But feel free to send an email after you watch part one.
well, i guess we can agree to disagree. i know your facts and figures are wrong. I know that you conveniently avoid all humanistic ideas of the palestinian tragedy. there really is nothing more to say. good luck in your quest.
Calista, seriously you have avoided all the history and facts I threw at you. You are only humiliating yourself. Palestinians are addicted to being humiliated. Are you Palestinian?
i havent avoided anything. i have answered you and i have asked you q's that you have avoided. Do not build yourself up too much. I am not humiliating myself. I am not the one stalking via google. I dont know, am I palestinian? I dont think so.
It took a second. Are you saying that isn't you. You are stalking me here. It is clear for anyone to see that I have criticized Israel here and have been factual but you have ducked and dodged.
Calista, you are a troll, and not a very good liar.
You have put your head in the sand regarding all my sound arguments and historical fact. Now you are spewing sex stats for Israel. Are sex stats reported for any Muslim nation? LMAO
In Israel, a recent survey showed that 40,000 children, at least 1.5% of the total child population, are victims of parental incompetence, cruelty, neglect, or emotional, physical, and sexual abuse.
Israeli women are victims of endemic violence, both domestic and sexual. In an Israel Women's Network report on the status of women in Israel, Shoshana One third of Israeli women will be a victim of sexual assault or rape in their lifetimes. A rape is committed every 12 hours and other types of sexual assault every four hours.
Israel: In Paragraphs 1 and 2 of the Rabbinical Courts Jurisdiction (Marriage and Divorce) Law (5713-1953), the State of Israel cedes jurisdiction over marriage to a sex discriminatory religious law, which provides that divorce depends solely on the will of the husband. womens salaries in israel 60% that of men.
its so funny how textbook you are. if all else fails in your attempt to win an argument, resort to ad hominem attacks and personal shots. but you know what, my husband was very surprised to learn we are divorced!!! In fact he is laughing right now in the other room wondering how much support he is going to have to pay. Viva FALASTEEN para siempre y siempre y siempre
Callista, I understand now why you are divorced, which is a no no for such a devout Muslim lady. You see only what you want to see, and keep your head in the sand when refuted.
also, there is one L in calista. 2. you have muslims confused with the jewish who do not provide woman with rights to divorce. Look at all the women in limbo in israel because the great men who walk out on them leaving them with nothing except a life sentence in a marriage that will never be again
I'll add, that if Israel started the war in 1948 with an intention of driving out Palestinians, then I would support the Palis. The fact is that Arab intolerance started the war. The Arabs lost a war they started. Get over it.
everytime a zionist gets backed into the corner by logic and indisputable facts he always starts talking about terrorism. your dichotomy is that of a 12 year old. and the only one projecting is yourself, but its ok. I dont expect you to notice.
all this boils down, i understand it now, you just hate muslims. you are not interested in historical fact at all. all your arguments are just to further anti-islam propaganda. you are right, you are an atheist.
what did u say? assmonkeys? the only thing pathetic is watching someone hang on to myths rather than looking at an issue with a courageous eye. there can never be change or peace or understanding until that occurs.
its almost cherry season in lebanon. best cherries there. i like cherries. my students will have a week's worth of learning about cherries beginning tomorrow. will have some nice videos from palestine too.
There was never a sovereign country called Palestine. Ever. That is a fact. It was scarcely populated land that has gone through many different governments, but not as a sovereign nation. Land is not Arabic because an Arab lives on some of it.
lol, there u go. "Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews. we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us."
When the Palestine problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 92% of the population of Palestine were Arabs and there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine? That Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians at that time lived in peace with each other?
Demographics change. There were 0% Muslims in Dearborn in 1880, now there is over 50%. Things change. There is 9 million people living where only half a million people were living in Israel 100 years ago. Demographics changed. No country on this planet started with everyone happy.
okay then. whats the problem with giving the palestinians back their land, that is not being inhabited by anyone now? whats the problem with stopping erecting settlements in palestinian areas?
It was never their land. That is a lie. Palestinians only owned 3.3 % of the what is now Israel. A renter of an apartment doesn't own the apartment. Palis are nonsensical babies.
The Palestinians are the biggest babies on the planet. ROR is a non starter. It will NEVER happen. Besides over 90% of Palis in the West Bank and Gaza or outside in another country were NOT born in sovereign Israel. No such thing as a genetic refugee.
You can see the future...thats good. you should do something useful with it. The tides are shifting and you will see. The Palestinian Issue is becoming more and more and more evident to everyday people. and the everyday people are gathering. ANd dont be fooled, there are more of us than there are of you. justice will prevail.
The tides are shifting. I am noticing the secular community showing less and less support for the Palestinians each day as they learn facts and how hateful the Palestinians are.
No apartheid, that is another lie. The West Bank and Gaza are not sovereign territory and the citizens who live there are not Israeli citizens unless Israel decides they are. That land is up for grabs.
Callista you are a hypocrite. The Palis only have themselves to blame for their plight. FACT.
yes apartheid. in israel and in palestine. israel uses color coded license plates to identify, they have jews only roads (not israeli only...jews only) even their marriage laws reflect racial discrimination and apartheid.just ask the semitic jews in israel what their position is in israeli society. im not a hypocrite. i do not say one thing and mean or do another.
You are a hypocrite because you probably feel that Muslims now being a majority in Dearborn Michigan is OK but Jews being a majority in Israel is not. You don't even know the definition of Apartheid. How many churches in Saudi Arabia by the way?
hmm. i didnt see any non muslims getting expelled from their homes in order to make room for muslims. I know apartheid very well. I am not talking about KSA. So trying to change the subject. Israel is an apartheid, terror state funded all by the US government. Americans are tired of having their kids go without at the same time Israel is being funded billions yearly. the tides are a-shifting.
In your dreams. You aren't really teaching in America are you? That is a crime seeing how idiotic you are. Hopefully you aren't teaching American children Muslim biased hate and lies.
Why are Muslims allowed in the West when you believe Jews shouldn't have migrated to Israel. The majority of the West do not want Muslims. You are a hypocrite.
i never said jews shouldnt migrate to wherever they want. people should be allowed to live where they choose. that includes palestinians too, but u dont agree with that. and if i like someone's house should i find a way to make them leave it so i can move in?
Again, up until 1947 when the Partition was announced, there was a Jewish majority without kicking anyone off land in the part of the land that was to be a Jewish governed state. The Jews accepted this, the Arabs started a war.
Was this prior to 1947? I'm sure the Arabs in other Arab nations did the same to Jewish homes when Jews (who were mostly forced to leave), left Arab countries in the early 50's.
You are ignoring the whole basis for the reason the Palis are in the situation they are in. And cherry picking which is typical of the Paliphile. The Arabs are responsible for the Palis plight, not the Jews.
There are 50 million refugees in the world today. There is no such thing as a genetic refugee. Your mindset is wrong. Nobody had to move. Arabs chose war. And they hardly owned anything. Land is settled where people live everywhere. 10 million people of Lebanese descent now live in Brazil.
so ben gurion was a liar? You are so funny. you are sitting in your western home supporting insane lies and ignoring that even ALL the Israeli PM's have admitted and defended their right to EXPEL the palestinians from their lands.
The fact is that if the Arabs didn't start a war in 1948, no one would have been expelled. Most left on their own regardless. I can bring up all kinds of quotes by Arabs stating it was the Arabs fault for the Palis plight. I'm sure you ignore them.
i dont care what the arabs started or didnt start. You are missing the point. The Pioneers of Israel had a strategy of expulsion, they admit it and you are still holding on to myths that even they dont.
2,500,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Jordan, and treated like third-class citizens 650,000 Live in and around refugee camps in the West Bank under military occupation by Israel, being starved into submission by Israel and Jordan, and they are being treated as second-class citizens by the local population.
850,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Gaza being starved into submission by both Israel and Egypt, and they are treated as second-class citizens by the local population 200,000 Displaced internally inside Palestine Proper (Israel), they were ethnically cleansed from their original towns. They are dispersed all over Palestine Proper (Israel) without right to their confiscated property.
500,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Lebanon, denied the basic rights to owning property and practice many professions 500,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Syria as temporary guests 600,000 Live around Arab countries in refugee camps and with the general population as guest workers on temporary bases without any property and basic human rights. 600,000 Live scattered around the world
Damn Jews and Arabs need to quit their childish bullshit already. Put all you you in a opium field until you forget the stupid reason you were fighting for. !0 years later when you sober up, maybe you'll have matured beyond your racism by then,
politicsthatmatter 8 months ago
Its an insult for Muslims to wear the name Palestinean. Christians laugh when they leave the room - they first placed this name on the Jews - in Judea, which was not an Islamic or Arab land but a Zionist plot.
ELVISCHALLENGE 1 year ago
The whole thing with the Arab mufti telling them not to turn is a bit inaccurate. It is true that the leaders told the Arabs to leave before the war, but Israel did not let them return(as opposed to your narrative).
DahStranger 1 year ago
@DahStranger Actually there is loads of evidence that at least some to many of them were allowed to come back, but the Arab leaders didn't want them too.
Elders of Ziyon has a blog with lots of actual headlines and stories from the time.
baconeater 1 year ago
THEN
they invade US soil, with the backing from the globe, and took over 30-40% of US soil and built a wall to prevent access to now, ex-US soil, and continued to do this for 120+ years.
you're ok with that?
AND, continue to do thisagainst the UN and global sentiment, and reduced media coming out from the US to prevent a change of opinion and staged consistant attacks to increase that to beyond the 30-40%, right under the global's nose.
You're ok with that?
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Again, no. If Palestine were a sovereign country, than things would have been different.
Arguing with someone who argues on the basis that Israel shouldn't or doesn't exist is futile for me, I might as well be arguing with someone who says the earth is flat.
baconeater 2 years ago
Israel occupies land that is not theirs - that was clearlt pointed out.
You are bias
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
You are a hypocrite. It is like saying the US occupies land that isn't theirs. Only 20% of the land was owned by Arabs (mostly absentee owners), 7% owned by Jews and the rest was state land. You get the concept of state land? Look it up.
Are Arabs in Dearborn Michigan occupying land that isn't theirs today?
baconeater 2 years ago
I am saying Israel - not the US - are you nuts?
where did you pull that from?
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
You are just too stupid to spend any more time with. Bye.
baconeater 2 years ago
So what you are saying is
If Canada wanted US soil, and proclaims it so, and then waged war, sanctioned all imports to the US, and took out US infrastructure to prevent the US from gaining basic human rights, like water and food, and convinced the world that they have a right to US soil, when they clearly do not.
You're ok with that?
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Nope. Canada is a sovereign country. The Palestine region was not. In the late 1800's there were half a million people where today there are 9 million. Most of the last was uninhabited. There was room for a Jewish population to grow and govern itself by majority.
baconeater 2 years ago
palestine is not a religion, Islam is -- you are confusing it.
The room is disportionate to the population of Jews.
This was clearly pointed out.
You are unable to remain logical.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I'm not discussing religion here. By 1947 there was a Jewish majority where the Jewish governed part of the Partition was located. The Arabs rejected the Partition and the rest is history.
baconeater 2 years ago
Bacon - do a history klesson that does ot involve TV and media - you are as jilted towards Muslims as a whole - you are a racist but defend it by popular sentiment, not facts.
You are a religious zealot!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I'm an atheist, and you are a moron. You are boring me now. Why don't you go spam another video, retard.
baconeater 2 years ago
Bacon
1 thing that kills your sentiments
Apply everything you said to the Jews
They never had any right to go where there are as they had no claim on that land, using the direct analogy from what you said.
You are bias 'against' muslims and you show it!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I'm pointing out that Muslims are hypocrites. You missed the point.
baconeater 2 years ago
I do not miss your point at all.
Bacon - I am a Jew - so your sentiment about all this is lost on me.
You are clearly a muslim hater and fail to include the history and fail to see that what you experience is directly resulting from the displacement of the Muslims by Israeli actions that, Israel, do not hide.
You complain about the current situation but do not ask the intelligent questions
Who, Why, When, Where & How.
You just complain about the now
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
No point complaining about who why when where and how. Every country was formed the same type of way, and not 100% of the people are satisfied.
baconeater 2 years ago
bacon - then you are no intelligent if you refuse to ask those question.
In fact the only reason you are on a PC right now, is diue to people asking those exact questions.
So, to avaid being a hypocrite - get off your PC
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I no intelligent then, you hypocritical moron.
baconeater 2 years ago
bacon
you you dislike Muslims in general?
do you see muslims as a complete threat?
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
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► Israel is a pain in the äss.
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TejanoChimbo 3 years ago
Israel is a pain in the ass, when you look at their oppression of homosexuals, women, and non-believers. Let's also look at all of their suicide bombing, in order to get into some star trek convention in the sky............wait a minute! That is what the Palestinians are doing.
DahStranger 2 years ago
► Oh, so suicide bombing isn't your cup of tea. What kind of bombing do you like?
TejanoChimbo 2 years ago
Let's see................... I would like NO BOMBING. Don't give me that "Israel bombed Gaza" nonsense because if we compare that one time Israel had to do so for self defense, and the Muslims bombing..
DahStranger 2 years ago
► Right, you must defend your hostile occupation and settlement. Otherwise you're opposed to bombing
TejanoChimbo 2 years ago
I would give an actual argument, but this video does that for me. I would like to say that if you are certain that Israel is what you say it is, why don't you take a trip to any other land in the middle east. Tell them that you are not a Muslim, and try to see how long you can go, without being killed.
DahStranger 2 years ago
► I suppose Israel is and its outposts in OPT provide an inspirational living experience if you're not a Palestinian.
TejanoChimbo 2 years ago
That is why the Muslims are the biggest religious minority in Israel? Israel's treatment of people firing rockets at them is better than the Palestinians, who do not even know how to treat their own citizens. Israel's not basing their laws on a book that was written by a pedophile.
DahStranger 2 years ago
you make a good point about sovereign land, i think you have to go back to the treaty of Westphahalia, which can not apply and is totally contradictary considering palestine was under British mandate/colonial rule.. Superficial meaningless drivle like "ARABS want jews to die" no longer flies..the USA and ISRAEL vote againt a UN resolution for peacefully settling the conflict..OPPOSING the rest of the WORLD! WHY?
syf277 3 years ago
Which resolution would have peacefully settle the conflict?
baconeater 3 years ago
yout logic makes no sense, why cannt a palestinian come back to his motherland after <60 yrs, if ALL jews no matter where in the world they are from are automatically allowed in based on some ancient claim of "the promised land"? DOUBLE STANDARDS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE!
I wonder why every year the USA and ISRAEL vote againt a UN resolution for peacefully settling the conflict??? i know who the enemy of peace is DO U?
syf277 3 years ago
No double standards. If the land was sovereign the Jews could not migrate there the way they did.
The land is sovereign now. You really need to think a bit more.
Settling the conflict? The Arabs want Jews to commit suicide to settle the conflict. They are the enemy to peace.
baconeater 3 years ago
Most Palestinians were not born in Israel????
You are an idiot. Of course, because you lot ethnically cleansed their villages and pushed them into neighbouring countries.
You are an asshole but thanks- we know now why Israel keeps stalling peace talks!
SimonDK01 3 years ago
Ethnically cleansed ROFLMAO. Good Arab propaganda Simon. Still doesn't matter though. A person born to two Palestinian parents in the US is an American. If born in the West Bank, he is not an Israeli either.
Arabs left mostly on their own. They should have accepted the partition.
It is the Arabs stalling peace talks. Hamas will not accept Israel as long as Jews are the majority there.
Nice Arab revisionism though. And I'm the asshole. LOL.
baconeater 3 years ago
/watch?v=9DPrhOaCiQk
Runinwidscissors 3 years ago
Fail!!
NihilistArmstrong 3 years ago
Very profound.
baconeater 3 years ago
Total nonsense. Jews value education and were the successful minority because they value education and were forced to become entrepreneurs.
You sound like a Muslim. Are you?
baconeater 3 years ago
geosuper3=right
Runinwidscissors 3 years ago
Of course he is Achmed. Islam is a cancer on humanity. Not the Joooos.
baconeater 3 years ago
Too much Purim bread me thinks.
Mairinohailche 3 years ago
If a dog is born in a stable, does that make it a horse?
lovinglife123 3 years ago
I agree with your point that the Palestinians are being used as a pawn for the Islamic cause. They wouldn't be refugees if surrounding countries had taken them in. Without Israel, who would they have to blame for anything?
melora72 3 years ago
If it wasn't for the surrounding Arab nations, they would have accepted the partition as well, and none of them would have left.
baconeater 3 years ago
If only it had worked out that way. I can't see the Palestinians being that accepting even without the interference of other Arab nations.
melora72 3 years ago
Always blame the victims. Makes it easy to continue to irradicate them.
Runinwidscissors 3 years ago
More Palestinians are born each and every day than die. And most die of natural causes. No genocide going on. That is just Islamic assmonkey rhetoric.
baconeater 3 years ago
omg the ugliness seeps even from the inside.
to all Amerian brits and anyone who cares about their country and people:
watch?v=Um98G5tAF-U
Mairinohailche 3 years ago
You are ugly on the inside and the outside. When is your next beating from your Muslim husband due? One hour, maybe two? And of course, the beatings are the fault of the Joooo.
You are barely literate btw.
baconeater 3 years ago
your an idiotic pathetic cunt arent you? its no wonder you people are so hated.... id always wondered why .... now everyone is realising it. you should be in a bodybag in iraq seeing as we are dying because you bastards kille americans. die you bastard DIE!!
Mairinohailche 3 years ago 2
I'm only hated by retards like you. You are a self loathing barely literate imbecile who is a radical Islamic supporter.
You make zero sense with your assmonkey rhetoric.
Is hubby there? Time for another beating. Blame the Jooos LMAOAY.
baconeater 3 years ago
can you read?.... do you try to?
is that your comfort blanket?
look at yourself for fucks sake... nope no mirrorsa i guess huh?
god your repulsive.... a missed abortion for sure... who was fucking your mother for gods sake?
Mairinohailche 3 years ago
I have a good time when I make my videos. I couldn't have a good time if I were you though, someone who waits for her next beating from her Muslim hubby.
Watch the language, or I'll ban you from my site.
And see a psychiatrist. Your hubby has given you too many blows to the head.
baconeater 3 years ago
all this about beating woen says a lot about you. do you hate women? did your mother abuse you? hmmmm are you gay by any chance?
Mairinohailche 3 years ago
I'm happily married to a non Jew. I only dislike retards like you. Your sex doesn't matter. And if you were the last woman on this planet, I would neither have sex with you (because you look like a man and you are hateful inside as well) and I would not beat you either (because I'm not a Muslim man).
baconeater 3 years ago
yea...jews just don't get it do they??
VICEPPP 3 years ago
Your experience and a quarter is worth a quarter.
Blah, blah, blah. In my experience Muslims and Arabs go out of their way to be disliked, blah blah blah.
Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.
baconeater 3 years ago
who cares who is more to blame. put your text book aside for just one minute and drop your chubby finger. no matter what you or i say there is no justice here, why cant isreal put down thier guns... oh bc they know that they are better ppl and the arabs would attack and abolish them? get a grip, isreal would do the same, if they were so riteous then they would not be exploiting peace to begin with. do yourself a favor and dont respond to this because your digging yourself even deeper into a hole
paigesix10 3 years ago
"Terrorists hide amongst the general population. No terrorists, no Israel bombings." so they just bomb the shit out of the general population? thats what you are saying, how is that any better? and sir, do you know how to ever defend your points without attacking your opponents intelect, because i think not. you are immature and prejudice. your lack of ability feel any sympathy for the other side of this matter is sickening,& Im glad so few people care what u say. you love to argue, thats all.
paigesix10 3 years ago
You are totally unable to put yourself in Israel's situation. You fail to see who the real victims are. And I'm sympathetic but my patience is worn thin. Look what happened when the Jews pulled out of Gaza. You just don't have a clue.
baconeater 3 years ago
"war may be a nessicary evil, but no matter how nessicary, it is always evil." Jimmy Carter
you fail to see the children & innocent victims of this on all sides. because you are so ennveloped in proving ireals right over the land. i do know whats going on, i do know what happens, & no matter whos "side" i view i see nothing but blood and greed. i hold isreal dear to my heart for many reasons, you are no one to tell me what i can see. Open your eyes and see the truth, no one is justified here
paigesix10 3 years ago
I'm done with you. But before I stop replying I'll add, Israel is not perfect but the Palestinians are way more to blame for the mess than Israel. And no matter how much you don't believe it, if the Arabs grew up, there would be peace and Israel would not exploit the peace.
baconeater 3 years ago
they have! i misunderstood what you wrote, i thought you were saying that it would be headlines if isreal was bombing in general. and there isnt much headline news on isreals part, because the news staions and cable stations are predominantly run by jews are you really that ignorant to trust what you see on the news? do you even take into concideration arab news arab reports? there are 2 sides to every story sir, sorry to break it to you. i have made up nothing, you are a stubborn fool.
paigesix10 3 years ago
if the arabs dropped thier arms they would be abolished, and you are a fool if you deny this. I'm sorry if i was an arab i would not concider that opption for a moment, bc isreal would take adavantage as i said, and if isreal did that the arabs would do the same, why can they not come up with a peace treaty of some sort? bc the jews believe that they have holy land or something below a masq, and the muslims are not about to blow thier place of worship up for the jews to prove thier scriputre.
paigesix10 3 years ago
That is crap. I know the total history. Again, most Jews are secular for one thing, but the 150,000 Arabs who stayed during and after the 1948 war didn't want to ever leave years after the war, and were not forced to leave. There are Arabs on the Knesset. Check out Elder of Ziyon's blog. He did a piece on the Arabs who stayed about 3 or 4 days ago.
baconeater 3 years ago
yes, but what does that have to do with what i am saying? that means nothing in the fact that the jews would take advantage, they already, palestinians are abused everyday by the power that isreal has, and where are you getting all your facts from? because my guess is that it is from jews, and if it is you should accept that your information is most likely automatically biased!
paigesix10 3 years ago
How do you know how Israel would react if they were dealing with a collective group not out to destroy them?
You are biased as well, and you don't even know it.
baconeater 3 years ago
how could you expect them not to? i personally know many good honest isreali jewish people, and they ALL agree! isreal tries to bomb one of the muslim masqs almost every day, and thier bombs kill so many innocents, just like the arabs bombs. they abuse the power that they have while the american army is there, by abusing palestinian innocents! that is a fact, what makes you think that they would not take advantage of winning such a tremendous war effort?after so many of thier ppl were murdered?
paigesix10 3 years ago
i am not biased, i am educated on both ends of the spectrum, people who KNOW first hand, first hand footage and documentation! i know where all of my sources come from, and they are not all jewish, muslim, or either! i formed my oppinion after years of research and facination. why can they not have equality n peace, because of religious nonsense that God told the jews as did mohamad to the muslims, that the land is thier holy land.so how can you say one side is right, or less violent in any way?
paigesix10 3 years ago
You are completely biased. Just because you say you aren't doesn't make it true.
You are making stuff up about bombing mosques. That is beyond biased for you to even consider it.
And like I said Herzl was not religious. Jews for the most part just wanted to escape anti-semitism, though some look at the West Bank as holy land. Israel isn't perfect, but the Palestinians are the biggest whiners and babies on this planet.
baconeater 3 years ago
dont care who wins who gives up, the fact of the matter that innocent people are dying for ridiculous reasons... a god no one has seen. bottom line, it should be international land. if the jews are so riteous why dont they put down there arms? how do you know how the arabs would react to the jews if they were not violent? you dont know. so stop pretending like you have all the answers, if you did more people would have taken you seriously.
paigesix10 3 years ago
Should land in Saudi Arabia be international land too? How about Jordan?
Israel is only defending itself from rocket attacks. They left Gaza, and nothing but rockets are being fired from rockets. You aren't very bright at all. You know very little about the IP situation, and I think it is IQ related.
baconeater 3 years ago
They try to bomb mosques? Are you for real? That kind of stuff would be headline news, if they did it even once, let alone once a day.
Israel targets terrorists. Terrorists hide amongst the general population. No terrorists, no Israel bombings.
baconeater 3 years ago
no isreal bombings? i thought you knew what you were talking about. and what part of im not on a side dont you understand? i
paigesix10 3 years ago
You said they try to bomb Mosques. Now you are spinning everything. I'm done with you. You are next to clueless.
baconeater 3 years ago
ok, i worded myself wrong in the last one, i dont have a "side" in this matter. and i disagree, i dont believe that there is a "right side" in this matter. but the fact of the matter is, that both sides treat eachother terribly, and are too biased to give in on either part. this is going to go on until something unimaginable ends it. i dont want to see this, but tell me, do you really believe the palestine is at fault here? or do you just agree more with isreal's side?
paigesix10 3 years ago
What do you think from watching my video what I think?
baconeater 3 years ago
both sided are horrible to eachother, i have lost 2 friends to bus bombings, who were isreali jews, i dont hate isreal, i just dont think that they are right or more just than palestine.
paigesix10 3 years ago
honestly, it's how the Israelis treat the people of palastine that pisses me off. I couldn't give a rats ass about the un owned lands, but Israel has done a lot of stuff illegal in UN law. You should watch some of the vids in my favs that are to that effect. One thing israel does is to make land un owned, they cut water supplies to the arab houses to force them to leave. IT's friggen sick. And then theres the murder and all...
kryptemonic 4 years ago
Why does Israel do these things? Put any other country in their shoes. If Mexico were the West Bank, and it was attacking the US in the same manner, Mexico would be a giant crater by now.
baconeater 4 years ago
...idk about a crater, but it wouldn't be much different from Iraq, plus you know all the gun nuts would mobilize. But Israel started the war, they have all the tanks and claim to be victims, and they also seem to be doing a lot of killing of civilians for simple sport, there are a few of my favs that show that, like even stripping a guy on the street and shooting him in the head while he's laying down.
kryptemonic 4 years ago
Israel did not start any wars. They have been under attack since 1948 with guns pointed at them. Where do you get your history from? If the Arabs dropped their arms there would be peace in the middle east. Sure, every army has sadists but Israel deals with them harshly.
baconeater 4 years ago
Hey, you seem like a reasonable person, but I don't want to debate here, would you mind doing it privately? Thre just isn't enough room here to say everything I have to say within 500 characters.
kryptemonic 4 years ago
I'm not really up for debate, been there done that. I don't know if you've seen my first video on the subject.
To me, Israel wasn't formed any different than any other country on the planet. The land was not sovereign until 1948...and like everywhere else might made right. But feel free to send an email after you watch part one.
baconeater 4 years ago
OK, will do.
kryptemonic 4 years ago
Two great videos AJ. Thanks for sharing. I might well use them on my blog in the future, with your permission of course.
Beaman80 4 years ago
You can use my videos any time you want.
baconeater 4 years ago
well, i guess we can agree to disagree. i know your facts and figures are wrong. I know that you conveniently avoid all humanistic ideas of the palestinian tragedy. there really is nothing more to say. good luck in your quest.
calista48 4 years ago
Good luck supporting people who have no claim to Israel and base their goals on false and hypocritical assumptions.
baconeater 4 years ago
Calista, seriously you have avoided all the history and facts I threw at you. You are only humiliating yourself. Palestinians are addicted to being humiliated. Are you Palestinian?
baconeater 4 years ago
i havent avoided anything. i have answered you and i have asked you q's that you have avoided. Do not build yourself up too much. I am not humiliating myself. I am not the one stalking via google. I dont know, am I palestinian? I dont think so.
calista48 4 years ago
It is clear you avoided just about everything I threw at you. Reread the posts.
baconeater 4 years ago
Also Calista, if you are indeed married, you should take off your ad on Muslim Match dot com
baconeater 4 years ago
lol what a psycho you are. whats that word called? stalker? hhhhaaaaaaaaah
calista48 4 years ago
It took a second. Are you saying that isn't you. You are stalking me here. It is clear for anyone to see that I have criticized Israel here and have been factual but you have ducked and dodged.
baconeater 4 years ago
i am a ducking dodging stalker, eh? i dont know, is it me? go hide under your blanket.
your a stalking little hater. go send muslim match a message maybe ull get a response.
calista48 4 years ago
I'm hardly a stalker. Just doing due diligence against an insane woman.
baconeater 4 years ago
hahahahahahahah. you are really a typical jackass. i feel sad for ur wife and your dog.
calista48 4 years ago
I knew you would comment again. You can't leave even when you said you would. All us men are jackasses aren't we? I feel happy for your ex husband:)
baconeater 4 years ago
yes me too feel happy for him. considering he was murdered, you zionist pig.
calista48 4 years ago
You are lying about something. It says you are divorced on your Muslim Match ID. LMAO Are you taking anything for your mental illness?
baconeater 4 years ago
Calista, you are a troll, and not a very good liar.
You have put your head in the sand regarding all my sound arguments and historical fact. Now you are spewing sex stats for Israel. Are sex stats reported for any Muslim nation? LMAO
baconeater 4 years ago
no i believe your mother is the troll. you have no sound arguments. oh israel is exempt from all criticism in your mind. you have a problem.
calista48 4 years ago
in Israel "Slavery and the buying and selling of persons are not criminal offences."
calista48 4 years ago
In Israel, a recent survey showed that 40,000 children, at least 1.5% of the total child population, are victims of parental incompetence, cruelty, neglect, or emotional, physical, and sexual abuse.
calista48 4 years ago
With approximately one million visits to prostitutes each month, the Israeli sex "industry" generates an estimated billion dollars a year...nice
calista48 4 years ago
Israeli women are victims of endemic violence, both domestic and sexual. In an Israel Women's Network report on the status of women in Israel, Shoshana One third of Israeli women will be a victim of sexual assault or rape in their lifetimes. A rape is committed every 12 hours and other types of sexual assault every four hours.
calista48 4 years ago
Israel: In Paragraphs 1 and 2 of the Rabbinical Courts Jurisdiction (Marriage and Divorce) Law (5713-1953), the State of Israel cedes jurisdiction over marriage to a sex discriminatory religious law, which provides that divorce depends solely on the will of the husband. womens salaries in israel 60% that of men.
calista48 4 years ago
its so funny how textbook you are. if all else fails in your attempt to win an argument, resort to ad hominem attacks and personal shots. but you know what, my husband was very surprised to learn we are divorced!!! In fact he is laughing right now in the other room wondering how much support he is going to have to pay. Viva FALASTEEN para siempre y siempre y siempre
calista48 4 years ago
I did a search of your ID and found someone with your exact ID on a Muslim date site. Maybe it isn't you, but it sure seems like you:)
baconeater 4 years ago
LOL you googled me? lol looooooooooooooooool thats sweet
calista48 4 years ago
Callista, I understand now why you are divorced, which is a no no for such a devout Muslim lady. You see only what you want to see, and keep your head in the sand when refuted.
baconeater 4 years ago
divorced? you really dont know much about anything.
calista48 4 years ago
also, there is one L in calista. 2. you have muslims confused with the jewish who do not provide woman with rights to divorce. Look at all the women in limbo in israel because the great men who walk out on them leaving them with nothing except a life sentence in a marriage that will never be again
calista48 4 years ago
I'll add, that if Israel started the war in 1948 with an intention of driving out Palestinians, then I would support the Palis. The fact is that Arab intolerance started the war. The Arabs lost a war they started. Get over it.
baconeater 4 years ago
nope. you are just a apologetic for the zionists. its ok. cognitive dissonance 100%
calista48 4 years ago
You are projecting. You are either a liar or wilfully ignorant. You are an apologist for terrorism.
baconeater 4 years ago
everytime a zionist gets backed into the corner by logic and indisputable facts he always starts talking about terrorism. your dichotomy is that of a 12 year old. and the only one projecting is yourself, but its ok. I dont expect you to notice.
calista48 4 years ago
You are the one projecting. You are ignoring all the facts and argument I've presented. You have no logic going for you. You are wilfully blind.
baconeater 4 years ago
ok
calista48 4 years ago
all this boils down, i understand it now, you just hate muslims. you are not interested in historical fact at all. all your arguments are just to further anti-islam propaganda. you are right, you are an atheist.
calista48 4 years ago
Wrong, I don't hate Muslims collectively. I don't deny any part of history. You are very selective. It is pathetic.
baconeater 4 years ago
what did u say? assmonkeys? the only thing pathetic is watching someone hang on to myths rather than looking at an issue with a courageous eye. there can never be change or peace or understanding until that occurs.
calista48 4 years ago
You are the one who makes myths by ignoring facts and cherry picking.
baconeater 4 years ago
its almost cherry season in lebanon. best cherries there. i like cherries. my students will have a week's worth of learning about cherries beginning tomorrow. will have some nice videos from palestine too.
calista48 4 years ago
There is no such thing as Palestine. And with attitudes like yours, there probably never will be.
baconeater 4 years ago
ok Golda. Palestine is, was and always will be. period
calista48 4 years ago
There was never a sovereign country called Palestine. Ever. That is a fact. It was scarcely populated land that has gone through many different governments, but not as a sovereign nation. Land is not Arabic because an Arab lives on some of it.
baconeater 4 years ago
lol, there u go. "Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews. we must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us."
calista48 4 years ago
When the Palestine problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 92% of the population of Palestine were Arabs and there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine? That Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians at that time lived in peace with each other?
calista48 4 years ago
Demographics change. There were 0% Muslims in Dearborn in 1880, now there is over 50%. Things change. There is 9 million people living where only half a million people were living in Israel 100 years ago. Demographics changed. No country on this planet started with everyone happy.
baconeater 4 years ago
okay then. whats the problem with giving the palestinians back their land, that is not being inhabited by anyone now? whats the problem with stopping erecting settlements in palestinian areas?
calista48 4 years ago
It was never their land. That is a lie. Palestinians only owned 3.3 % of the what is now Israel. A renter of an apartment doesn't own the apartment. Palis are nonsensical babies.
baconeater 4 years ago
lol
calista48 4 years ago
The Palestinians are the biggest babies on the planet. ROR is a non starter. It will NEVER happen. Besides over 90% of Palis in the West Bank and Gaza or outside in another country were NOT born in sovereign Israel. No such thing as a genetic refugee.
baconeater 4 years ago
You can see the future...thats good. you should do something useful with it. The tides are shifting and you will see. The Palestinian Issue is becoming more and more and more evident to everyday people. and the everyday people are gathering. ANd dont be fooled, there are more of us than there are of you. justice will prevail.
calista48 4 years ago
The tides are shifting. I am noticing the secular community showing less and less support for the Palestinians each day as they learn facts and how hateful the Palestinians are.
baconeater 4 years ago
lol. ok
calista48 4 years ago
No apartheid, that is another lie. The West Bank and Gaza are not sovereign territory and the citizens who live there are not Israeli citizens unless Israel decides they are. That land is up for grabs.
Callista you are a hypocrite. The Palis only have themselves to blame for their plight. FACT.
baconeater 4 years ago
yes apartheid. in israel and in palestine. israel uses color coded license plates to identify, they have jews only roads (not israeli only...jews only) even their marriage laws reflect racial discrimination and apartheid.just ask the semitic jews in israel what their position is in israeli society. im not a hypocrite. i do not say one thing and mean or do another.
calista48 4 years ago
You are a hypocrite because you probably feel that Muslims now being a majority in Dearborn Michigan is OK but Jews being a majority in Israel is not. You don't even know the definition of Apartheid. How many churches in Saudi Arabia by the way?
baconeater 4 years ago
hmm. i didnt see any non muslims getting expelled from their homes in order to make room for muslims. I know apartheid very well. I am not talking about KSA. So trying to change the subject. Israel is an apartheid, terror state funded all by the US government. Americans are tired of having their kids go without at the same time Israel is being funded billions yearly. the tides are a-shifting.
calista48 4 years ago
In your dreams. You aren't really teaching in America are you? That is a crime seeing how idiotic you are. Hopefully you aren't teaching American children Muslim biased hate and lies.
baconeater 4 years ago
why would i teach differently? sue me or dont send your kid to my class.
calista48 4 years ago
Why are Muslims allowed in the West when you believe Jews shouldn't have migrated to Israel. The majority of the West do not want Muslims. You are a hypocrite.
baconeater 4 years ago
i never said jews shouldnt migrate to wherever they want. people should be allowed to live where they choose. that includes palestinians too, but u dont agree with that. and if i like someone's house should i find a way to make them leave it so i can move in?
calista48 4 years ago
Again, up until 1947 when the Partition was announced, there was a Jewish majority without kicking anyone off land in the part of the land that was to be a Jewish governed state. The Jews accepted this, the Arabs started a war.
baconeater 4 years ago
go check out the clips and stills of jews moving into palestinian homes...go read up on the looting laws. so moral.
calista48 4 years ago
Was this prior to 1947? I'm sure the Arabs in other Arab nations did the same to Jewish homes when Jews (who were mostly forced to leave), left Arab countries in the early 50's.
baconeater 4 years ago
looting is looting. stop making excuses.
calista48 4 years ago
You are ignoring the whole basis for the reason the Palis are in the situation they are in. And cherry picking which is typical of the Paliphile. The Arabs are responsible for the Palis plight, not the Jews.
baconeater 4 years ago
yes i am a paliphile.
calista48 4 years ago
No kidding. You cherry pick, deny reality and history, and common sense. Plus you are hypocritical.
baconeater 4 years ago
Arabs have no claim to Israel. None whatsoever:
emetnews. org/analysis/arab_claim_to_palestine. php
baconeater 4 years ago
thats beacuse israel is not real. they dont want or need claim to israel. israel is the king of squatters of all history.
calista48 4 years ago
Israel is very real. Palestine does not exist, and the way the assmonkeys behave, it never will.
baconeater 4 years ago
lol, there u go.
calista48 4 years ago
There are 50 million refugees in the world today. There is no such thing as a genetic refugee. Your mindset is wrong. Nobody had to move. Arabs chose war. And they hardly owned anything. Land is settled where people live everywhere. 10 million people of Lebanese descent now live in Brazil.
baconeater 4 years ago
no one had to move. you are perpetuating a huge lie. but thats ok. because it is expected of a zionist.
calista48 4 years ago
No one had to move before the Arabs showed their intolerance and started a war. You have a very selective memory.
baconeater 4 years ago
so ben gurion was a liar? You are so funny. you are sitting in your western home supporting insane lies and ignoring that even ALL the Israeli PM's have admitted and defended their right to EXPEL the palestinians from their lands.
calista48 4 years ago
The fact is that if the Arabs didn't start a war in 1948, no one would have been expelled. Most left on their own regardless. I can bring up all kinds of quotes by Arabs stating it was the Arabs fault for the Palis plight. I'm sure you ignore them.
baconeater 4 years ago
i dont care what the arabs started or didnt start. You are missing the point. The Pioneers of Israel had a strategy of expulsion, they admit it and you are still holding on to myths that even they dont.
calista48 4 years ago
Some did. I realize it. But they wouldn't have got anywhere if the Arabs didn't start a war. There would be peace.
baconeater 4 years ago
2,500,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Jordan, and treated like third-class citizens 650,000 Live in and around refugee camps in the West Bank under military occupation by Israel, being starved into submission by Israel and Jordan, and they are being treated as second-class citizens by the local population.
calista48 4 years ago
850,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Gaza being starved into submission by both Israel and Egypt, and they are treated as second-class citizens by the local population 200,000 Displaced internally inside Palestine Proper (Israel), they were ethnically cleansed from their original towns. They are dispersed all over Palestine Proper (Israel) without right to their confiscated property.
calista48 4 years ago
500,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Lebanon, denied the basic rights to owning property and practice many professions 500,000 Live in and around refugee camps in Syria as temporary guests 600,000 Live around Arab countries in refugee camps and with the general population as guest workers on temporary bases without any property and basic human rights. 600,000 Live scattered around the world
6,400,000 Total Estimated Palestinian Refugees
calista48 4 years ago