@naumutroi There are always differences in how techniques are executed between different lineages/schools and even person to person. Different does not equate wrong as long as the practitioner has a reasonable and scientific explination of why those techniques are executed in said manner
@K3hungsing yes i agree completely. there are many ways of expressing the same thing, many paths. if everyone was the same how boring it would be. i know and understand all of this you have said. Even after being in the martial arts for so many years sometimes in my zeal i forget some things such as the principle of the empty tea cup and i sometimes have too much "chon" for my own good..
This video says these students are performing at Chicago Chinatown fair. The best place to learn Lama Kung Fu or to learn martial arts in Chicago is from Grand Master Wai Lun Choi of Chicago's Chinatown.
@naumutroi We know Wai lun Choi. he no longer teaches in chicagos chinatown. BTW, I saw your other comment before you erased it. In kung fu you should talk with your hands not your mouth. I don't think your sifu would approve of your insulting remarks
@K3hungsing my apologies for my disrespect and i should not have been so rude. That is why i removed the original comment after thinking upon what i wrote.
They are today few systems that we can call ethnic styles within China today except for Muslim styles(Hui), Hakka and maybe Lion's Roar tradition(which many people still debate about the location of its origins).
Not only the Chinese muslims(the Hui) took up traditional Chinese martial arts but also the Mongolians and Tibetans(who brought wrestling traditions), the Manchu/Evenk tribes in the cold forested North, The Dai(Thai) in the far hot South etc....They all adopted and made variations of Chinese martials to suit their culture and enviroment.
This system is known as lama pai and hop ga, there is an off shoot of this system called Tibetain White crane. All these systems are popular in Guangdong and Hong Kong. The creation stories of this system place it's origins in Tibet. I can't speak to the acuracy of this systems history as I wasn't there. What is important is that we have used these techniques with great success in self defense and sanda competition.
People do not realize that the historical cultural Tibetan is much larger than present Tibet itself. Within China itself traditional areas like most of Qinghai, most of W. Sichuan, SW Gansu, Small pockets of Xinjiang have been culturally Tibetan for centuries. For example there's the famous Labrang monastery in either Gansu or Qinghai and I would bet anything that the Lion's Roar(Lama Pai KF) tradition may have started in these areas rather than Tibet itself.
@blackarawak83, dude! The state religion for Yuan and Qing dynasty is Tibetan Buddhism, or we should call it Lamaism. Tibetan culture is way beyond just a local culture in this grand East Asian civilization commonly called "China". It is the major religious culture for Northern Plains for hundreds of years.
Martial art have been practiced all over Asia for thousands of years(Tibet included). China however is the country that has had an everlasting influence (from 600BCE to about 1600AD) . This is a 2000 plus influence from writing, religion, culture and martial arts too. As far Tibetan Kung Fu concerned, it could be anything but a Chinese reference of a particular branch of KF once practiced by Lamas or Tibetan people in and around the Tibetan areas within China.
thanx for agree with me K3hungsing. It makes perfect sense that non Han people would take up and influence Chinese martial arts too. The Arab, Persian and Turkish ancestors of Hui long ago adopted systems like Chang Chuan to the point they even developed highly efficient systems of they own (directly or indirectly): Systems like Cha Chuan, Liu He Chuan and many others
i dont want to disappoint people but tibetan kung fu does not exist, or it was never practiced in ancient tibet as far as i know.tibetans do have wrestling like the indians and the mongols though.
It does exist. In tibet the stile is called lion roar. was brought to china, by monk sing lung. In china it received the name lama pai. The well known stiles like hap gar and pak hok pai are derivated from it.
im sorry my freind but sing lung is not a tibetan name.i am a tibetan and i would know.pai is also not a tibetan word.i just dont like how the CCP is trying to sinicize the tibetan culture,although i think this martial arts looks good.i dont think people should stop practising this..just want them to know that this is not really a part of tibetan culture.
i don't know for sure, i believe that sing lung is an chinese aproximation of his name, the name of the monk who created the stile has many versions too, ah tah toh, adato, etc. The story is repassed by the chinese people. I'll ask my master about that. I pratice pak hok pai, the names hap gar, pak hok pai and lama pai were given in china. Remenbering in Tibet it was called "lion's roar"(don't know the name in tibetan language).
in tibetan buddhist tradition Lions roar means "fearless proclamation of truth", it means being truthful and not lying.adahta is also not a tibetan name. tibetan names always have meaning. his holiness' name "tenzin gyatso". tenzin loosely means wisdom and gyatso means ocean.therefore his holiness' name means "ocean of wisdom". my first name is chimay which means undying.
aYO, "as far as you know"? Then you don't know that Tibet & China were neighbors back in the days & were warring with each other. Have you heard of Khampa? Tibetan warriors, fought with swords, archery,spears & rode on Horses in battles. FYI, I'm a Tibetan & practice the Martial Arts, boxing . No styles needed as long as one can take care of oneself in a fight & win successfully. RANGZEN!
I have studied Lama Kung Fu for years under Sifu Steven Ventura who's teacher was Chan Tai San and let me tell you that it is obvious that dav3ka is an ignorant person. He would not have the guts to look up the system.
I on the otherhand, respect the art. Keep more clips coming.
ok well first you can start explaining to me how this tibetan kung fu can do in terms of defence, how can it benefit you, besides exercising.
From what i know, kung fu needs proper stances , i mean they look like one kick and they can drop. . .legs arn't straight. .i dont know, i studied wushu before and this just totally contradicts what i've learned.
First you are comparing modern wushu which practices exagerated extended and low stances for asthetic purposes with traditional kungfu designed purely for combat
Google, lama pai/ hop ga. It's a popular style in southern china famous for it's success on the lei tei (full contact. If that doesn't satisfy you then feel free to stop by our school and test us out.
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.....uh what the fuck, the tibetan's train this kungfu ?. ... i'm sorry but, theres no proper form, stances. .. go take some real kung fu, wing chun, wushu, or traditional. .
i await for negative thumbs down. but whoever that thinks this shit is kung fu. .. go to another school. .. . .. honeslty i'm so amazed at the form. .its so.. ... .. i dunno question marks all over.
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naumutroi 4 months ago
@naumutroi There are always differences in how techniques are executed between different lineages/schools and even person to person. Different does not equate wrong as long as the practitioner has a reasonable and scientific explination of why those techniques are executed in said manner
K3hungsing 4 months ago
@K3hungsing yes i agree completely. there are many ways of expressing the same thing, many paths. if everyone was the same how boring it would be. i know and understand all of this you have said. Even after being in the martial arts for so many years sometimes in my zeal i forget some things such as the principle of the empty tea cup and i sometimes have too much "chon" for my own good..
naumutroi 4 months ago
This video says these students are performing at Chicago Chinatown fair. The best place to learn Lama Kung Fu or to learn martial arts in Chicago is from Grand Master Wai Lun Choi of Chicago's Chinatown.
naumutroi 4 months ago
@naumutroi We know Wai lun Choi. he no longer teaches in chicagos chinatown. BTW, I saw your other comment before you erased it. In kung fu you should talk with your hands not your mouth. I don't think your sifu would approve of your insulting remarks
K3hungsing 4 months ago
@K3hungsing my apologies for my disrespect and i should not have been so rude. That is why i removed the original comment after thinking upon what i wrote.
naumutroi 4 months ago
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naumutroi 4 months ago
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THAMOSK 9 months ago
it was a vast nomadic region with a meager population density after all
nactan 1 year ago
bare handed martial arts didn't take off in tibet because people were allowed to carry weapons around
nactan 1 year ago
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they are lame
rockveopera 1 year ago
They are today few systems that we can call ethnic styles within China today except for Muslim styles(Hui), Hakka and maybe Lion's Roar tradition(which many people still debate about the location of its origins).
blackarawak83 2 years ago
Not only the Chinese muslims(the Hui) took up traditional Chinese martial arts but also the Mongolians and Tibetans(who brought wrestling traditions), the Manchu/Evenk tribes in the cold forested North, The Dai(Thai) in the far hot South etc....They all adopted and made variations of Chinese martials to suit their culture and enviroment.
blackarawak83 2 years ago
This system is known as lama pai and hop ga, there is an off shoot of this system called Tibetain White crane. All these systems are popular in Guangdong and Hong Kong. The creation stories of this system place it's origins in Tibet. I can't speak to the acuracy of this systems history as I wasn't there. What is important is that we have used these techniques with great success in self defense and sanda competition.
K3hungsing 2 years ago
People do not realize that the historical cultural Tibetan is much larger than present Tibet itself. Within China itself traditional areas like most of Qinghai, most of W. Sichuan, SW Gansu, Small pockets of Xinjiang have been culturally Tibetan for centuries. For example there's the famous Labrang monastery in either Gansu or Qinghai and I would bet anything that the Lion's Roar(Lama Pai KF) tradition may have started in these areas rather than Tibet itself.
blackarawak83 2 years ago
I agree
K3hungsing 2 years ago
@blackarawak83, dude! The state religion for Yuan and Qing dynasty is Tibetan Buddhism, or we should call it Lamaism. Tibetan culture is way beyond just a local culture in this grand East Asian civilization commonly called "China". It is the major religious culture for Northern Plains for hundreds of years.
jimmyjamesWang 1 year ago
Martial art have been practiced all over Asia for thousands of years(Tibet included). China however is the country that has had an everlasting influence (from 600BCE to about 1600AD) . This is a 2000 plus influence from writing, religion, culture and martial arts too. As far Tibetan Kung Fu concerned, it could be anything but a Chinese reference of a particular branch of KF once practiced by Lamas or Tibetan people in and around the Tibetan areas within China.
blackarawak83 2 years ago
I agree again
K3hungsing 2 years ago
thanx for agree with me K3hungsing. It makes perfect sense that non Han people would take up and influence Chinese martial arts too. The Arab, Persian and Turkish ancestors of Hui long ago adopted systems like Chang Chuan to the point they even developed highly efficient systems of they own (directly or indirectly): Systems like Cha Chuan, Liu He Chuan and many others
blackarawak83 2 years ago
i dont want to disappoint people but tibetan kung fu does not exist, or it was never practiced in ancient tibet as far as i know.tibetans do have wrestling like the indians and the mongols though.
TerakuOimikado 2 years ago
It does exist. In tibet the stile is called lion roar. was brought to china, by monk sing lung. In china it received the name lama pai. The well known stiles like hap gar and pak hok pai are derivated from it.
joaocostalonga 2 years ago
im sorry my freind but sing lung is not a tibetan name.i am a tibetan and i would know.pai is also not a tibetan word.i just dont like how the CCP is trying to sinicize the tibetan culture,although i think this martial arts looks good.i dont think people should stop practising this..just want them to know that this is not really a part of tibetan culture.
TerakuOimikado 2 years ago
i don't know for sure, i believe that sing lung is an chinese aproximation of his name, the name of the monk who created the stile has many versions too, ah tah toh, adato, etc. The story is repassed by the chinese people. I'll ask my master about that. I pratice pak hok pai, the names hap gar, pak hok pai and lama pai were given in china. Remenbering in Tibet it was called "lion's roar"(don't know the name in tibetan language).
joaocostalonga 2 years ago
in tibetan buddhist tradition Lions roar means "fearless proclamation of truth", it means being truthful and not lying.adahta is also not a tibetan name. tibetan names always have meaning. his holiness' name "tenzin gyatso". tenzin loosely means wisdom and gyatso means ocean.therefore his holiness' name means "ocean of wisdom". my first name is chimay which means undying.
TerakuOimikado 2 years ago
aYO, "as far as you know"? Then you don't know that Tibet & China were neighbors back in the days & were warring with each other. Have you heard of Khampa? Tibetan warriors, fought with swords, archery,spears & rode on Horses in battles. FYI, I'm a Tibetan & practice the Martial Arts, boxing . No styles needed as long as one can take care of oneself in a fight & win successfully. RANGZEN!
gohan4585 2 years ago
never heard, read, seen such called Tibetan kungfu..except few on youtube.. Tibetans do wrestle and yoga.. snif snif.. smells bit fishy..
StudioTibet 2 years ago
lol my point exactly.i guess only tibetans have never heard of tibetan kung-fu lol.
TerakuOimikado 2 years ago
BTW, your comments will only hold water if you post video of yourself doing better or at least say what school you are from
Next time do your research before you comment.
K3hungsing 3 years ago
I have studied Lama Kung Fu for years under Sifu Steven Ventura who's teacher was Chan Tai San and let me tell you that it is obvious that dav3ka is an ignorant person. He would not have the guts to look up the system.
I on the otherhand, respect the art. Keep more clips coming.
memyself2k 3 years ago
then u shouldn't have responded. I SEE A POST!
ok well first you can start explaining to me how this tibetan kung fu can do in terms of defence, how can it benefit you, besides exercising.
From what i know, kung fu needs proper stances , i mean they look like one kick and they can drop. . .legs arn't straight. .i dont know, i studied wushu before and this just totally contradicts what i've learned.
dav3ka 3 years ago
Ok, aynonomus armchair internet warrior
First you are comparing modern wushu which practices exagerated extended and low stances for asthetic purposes with traditional kungfu designed purely for combat
Google, lama pai/ hop ga. It's a popular style in southern china famous for it's success on the lei tei (full contact. If that doesn't satisfy you then feel free to stop by our school and test us out.
K3hungsing 3 years ago
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.....uh what the fuck, the tibetan's train this kungfu ?. ... i'm sorry but, theres no proper form, stances. .. go take some real kung fu, wing chun, wushu, or traditional. .
i await for negative thumbs down. but whoever that thinks this shit is kung fu. .. go to another school. .. . .. honeslty i'm so amazed at the form. .its so.. ... .. i dunno question marks all over.
dav3ka 3 years ago
I was going to respond to this but it's so ignorant, I'm not sure where to start.......
K3hungsing 3 years ago
Nice- Siu Lohan Kuen
kiwihapgar 3 years ago
wow that is my favorite form.
lostlohan 3 years ago 3
nice!
straightblast5 3 years ago 4