Not to be a pessimist, but this movement is doomed to fail. Just like all the other major protest's from before it will most likely be crushed by the cold indifferent powers that be.
this makes sence finally since most people cant give me a straight answer on occupy. but your saying they are greedy, but really it sounds like they are. why take money from these people who earned by making an empire. maybe they arent being taxed as much cause they make so much fucking money for the people that work for them if i wanna pocket a large sum of money for a company i own well fuckin shoot me then ha
Actually, this is ultimately the result of the layperson, who has become too ignorant to understand exactly what they are voting for each November. Ironically, occupy protesters only harm him because they do not have a cohesive message (not that any of them promote an appropriate course of action to solve this problem anyway), so their protest is fruitless, yet it still bears a great burden on the economy (none of the occupy protesters are working)
What if the super rich took away everything they give to you? Zuckerburg shuts down Facebook, Begos shuts down Amazon, and Youtube is shut down by its shareholders?
Would your life be better or worse? These people are rich because they have gave you something. And you want to take more from them? Stop being greedy.
@optionism Kinda funny you say that because for alot of Americans everything was taken away from them when they lost their job due the greed of the rich oh let me be sorrry real quick you made 80million instead of 100million and kept hundreds of jobs
their not rich becuase they gave people something, their rich becuase they took something away.
you listed a bunch of dot com companys ignoring the real issue.
manafacturers who sell stuff to america and claim their an american company and then ship all the jobs abroad, bankers who take higher and higher risks just so that they can get a bigger bonus, and when their banks collapse, who suffers?
@tuscanyiscol too bad companies have to take their jobs oversees because minimum wage, regulations, and taxes make business more costly in the US compared to other countries.
Funny that those who oppose OWS believe themselves to be among the elite, They dont realize that the 1% count only themselves as elite, all others are disposable minions of the elite, And they laugh at you while you do they're dirty work.
Certain laws were enacted to rein in the 1% ones like Monopoly laws, That now are completely ignored, It goes way beyond capitalism when Greedy Tyrants control everything and starve the people to squeeze the last penny out of them, Death to the Tyrants!
What this video ISN"T telling you is that the top 10% pay 60% of all Federal taxes,,and the bottom 47%,,PAY NO TAXES OR GET IT ALL BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR!!!
Not telling the WHOLE truth is the SAME as lying...and this video is LYING to you!!
And this is coming from someone who work the last 40 yr and can't retire because of the 47%,,,and I only made $48K not millions nor do I get anything back at the end of the year.
Wait, so you're suggesting that some people should have a 90% tax on their income? Why should anyone in this country be taxed at 90%? Would you like to earn $100K just to only get a paycheck for $10K?
You guys are leaderless. You guys aren't going through the proper channels. You missed your chance to do something when cops used excessive force--THAT was your moment and you missed it. What you should have done? Got lawyers, got paperwork, filled legal action. Got a WRITTEN, documented legal demand. believe it or not, legal action works
BUT the OWS movement has been a great symbol, people are starting to see who the real enemies are. Good job for that much.
The Occupy protestors have the wrong idea. If they wanted to bring a real change, they would be protesting the government that has allowed the deregulation of Wall Street. The corporations, although nefarious in nature, are generally staying within their legal guidelines. We need to make it clear that taking money from special interest groups and lobbyist is not allowed. I think most rational people would back something that related to getting the corruption out of DC. There are no free lunches.
40 or 50 years ago people would take any job just to have work and then when they found a better job they would take it. That is not how it is anymore. I constantly have people submit their Vitae's to our company wanting to start in a management position, but they have absolutely no experience but they sure want everything. There are jobs to be had but there are just too many lazy folks out there who want to start in an executive position without even knowing the business... LMAO Good Luck
@timb980 40 or 50 years ago, people were told that if they didn't want to end up flipping burgers at McDonalds, they had to go to college. Nowadays, after people go to their college, they don't get the job they studied for, and people expect them to flip burgers. Make sense now?
@Exemplariful Exactly my point... Our Country is turning into a Social Society and we are being taught to expect the government to jump in and help us with welfare. We need a new President who will tell the Chinese, Mexicans, Indians and every other country in the world that if they want access to our markets to sell their merchandise here in the USA, then we want the exact same access to their markets to sell our merchandise. That will bring manufacturing jobs back to the Good Old USA...
@timb980 If manufacturing jobs that could be done more efficiently outside the U.S. are brought back to the U.S, the U.S. economy will realize a net loss, because the higher costs associated with hiring U.S. laborers will be placed on U.S. consumers in the form of higher prices on the products being manufactured. Politicians only promote these programs because the benefits of the program on the laborers and producers are easily visible to voters, whereas the greater loss to consumers is not.
@timb980 Put simply, you can have your american customer service operator instead of an Indian one, so long as you are willing to pay more for the product.
@Exemplariful The first job I had out of college was folding towels at a gym, now I design residential solar power systems. My father did not go to college and works in aviation electronics. Now he is going back to school to earn a degree. Academics is an end to itself. Schools are for learning, jobs are for working. They complement each other, but doing one does not earn the other.
We have a peoples government, the problem is that we the people have been absent for too long.
@Entasis118 I just don't like to hear that working at fast food restaurants is a terrible thing. Flipping burgers can be a great start for anyone, those who do work those cook tops are gaining valuable skills learning how to work under stress. Don't let anyone make you think that such jobs aren't worth the time. Many times you have to start at the bottom to work your way up. Being American is having the independent responsibility to succeed. Measured in a variety of ways, not just money.
@Entasis118 The problem is that you and your father's cases are very rare. All those OWS protesters? For them, flipping burgers IS their career, not a pit stop, because other jobs simply aren't available.
@Exemplariful What do you really expect 'them' to do about it?
"So you want to be a lawer... well... we don't really need one... but you worked so hard for it... I guess we could hire another one, you can hold copies of what the other lawers are holding so we won't lose anything."
@Exemplariful So basically, you want the US to be better off, and f the rest of the world? Take jobs away from them so we can have them. Crack down on illegal immigrants, forcing many of them to live in their own crappy countries. Raise taxes on the rich, who already have the highest taxes. And everybody owning their own company is better? Who would work for them if nobody is an employee? And many people are, bluntly, too stupid to run a successful company.
@Exemplariful You should think less about yourself and your own country, and more about the entire world stage. Cheap production in asia means cheap products here. Raise the taxes on the 'rich' too much and there will be another revolt, in the opposite direction. Cracking down on immigrants... I'm sorta neutral about that. Not everybody can be an entrepreneur, those who are smart enough, and driven enough, already have the idea themselves.
@TheoryOfThought The whole basis of my idea was to make it more expensive to manufacture goods in china, not cheaper. I don't think the rich would revolt; and if they did, well, they're vastly outnumbered. And the thought of being an entrepreneur is a scary and forbidding idea to most Americans. Illegal immigrants ARE taking our jobs without contributing to the economy, though I'm not sure how many Americans would be willing to take their places and jobs.
@Exemplariful by having jobs and earning money they are contributing to the economy. only redneck morons who don't understand economics think that its possible to "steal" jobs. jobs are not a fucking consumable. illegal immigrants with jobs ARE contributing to the economy you fucking idiot, thats what having a job means.
@tuscanyiscol No, they're not contributing in a meaningful way. Illegal Immigrants can't sue their employer if they're being payed less than minimum wage. Not only that, but when an immigrant is hired, they take a job that a legal, authorized citizen could have used. So, yes, you CAN steal a job, and they are consumable. Should I mention I live in the most populous city of my state, and understand economics better than you ever will? I'm not a redneck moron.
@Exemplariful again, jobs aren't consumable. and you clearly have no understanding of the job market. most illegal immigrants take work in sector where there is work required.
the typically sited white example of the immigrant taking lower pay and making them redundant is a fantastically simlistic way of looking at the job market.
unskilled, low paid work is always in demand, anywhere, people who want a crap job for low pay can generally get one. and i meant what i said. you are a moron.
@tuscanyiscol You didn't actually disprove my point in any way. You skirted around my arguments. Not only that, but you consistently fail to utilize punctuation, spelling and grammar correctly, and rely on insults to get your points across.
Look buddy, we're probably on the same side of the fence here. I call myself pretty liberal, this is just the one area I don't agree with. If you can state your argument like a civilized person then maybe we can debate instead of name-calling.
@Exemplariful its the internet dummy, you dont have to "utilize spelling grammer and puntuation" the fact you hunderstood my comment meant that its point was acheived. just becuase i dont spend half an hour spell checking my youtube comments doesnt mean that my point is in any way less valid.
@tuscanyiscol To be honest, yes, I am having some difficulty understanding your comments, and it does make your point a lot less valid than if you acted like a civilized person, didn't insult me like a child, and were having this conversation for any other reason than to boost your self-confidence and ego. I spend about 10 seconds spell-checking my comment; the fact that it would take you 30 minutes is a pretty good indicator of your reading level and intelligence.
These protesters want all of the money distributed evenly, well why don't they go out and start their own companies and get some of the cash "The Old Fashioned Way"... Earn It... It is no longer enough to get your High School Diploma, you need a College Education or you can work at McDonald's or stay un-employed and go protest. Protest because I am not giving you my money? LMAO
That is not what Occupy is about. It is about getting corporations and banks out of the government and to stop the corruption in this trio that is destroying America. We want a well regulated capitalistic-socialistic society, not pure socialism. Turn off your TV and talk to some Occupiers, get to know them.
@H3R0ify I am sick and tired of paying for people to be on "Welfare" which is what most of the "Occupy Protesters" are all about. Welfare = Socialism... This Administration that is currently in The White House has done absolutely nothing to help people get jobs. Instead of standing in a line all day and night carrying a sign, try getting two jobs and you won't have the time for your movement. America is still the land where you can do anything if you are willing to work hard enough for it.
@timb980 For every job opening there is AT LEAST 4 applicants (that is the least I have seen in any statistic). Its not as easy as "just getting a job" when the so called jobmakers give themselves bonuses instead of actually making jobs. Also the roads you drive on, the library you read at, the police who protect you, the firemen and women who save your life, the school who taught you, ect are all socialist services. If you want to capitalize those services you do not understand basic economics.
@H3R0ify I understand your point of view. There need to be basic jobs for Americans. We are moving toward a global economy and the US is paying for it. The US needs to get back to basics of production and exporting. Our Government for the last 20 years has made it so easy for every other country to sell goods here, but we can't sell goods in China and other places. We need a new President who has some balls and scrap NAFTA and stop the "Welfare" for Big Corporate like Bank of America.
@H3R0ify Our Country is already turning into a Socialist Society. I live along the Southern US Border and the Mexicans can drive their trucks up here and deliver goods with very little inspection on their trucks. It is too bad that many Americans feel that it is the Governments duty to pay for their every need. Today's American's are lazy and refuse to work when they can sit at home and collect welfare. I have plenty of them that work for me. They refuse to vote but want to cry about it...
I agree with what you said first, but the second I have to disagree with.
Many people don't believe that it is the government's duty to feed, clothe, and take care of them. However, many people believe that it is the government's duty to give us our basic human rights. Rights like health, education, food, and protection. It is government's sole duty to serve the people. What your saying is a generalization often used by conservatives but isn't backed by fact, just perspective.
@H3R0ify I spend most of my week traveling for work and every single big city that i go to has the same issue. People wanting welfare with no limits or restrictions. There are jobs out there, but people don't want to work for them and they tell me all the time. "Why should I get a job when I can earn just as much money on welfare sitting at home"... Every time I hear that and I hear it every week, I throw their lazy ass's out of my office... They seem to think they can start at the top???
what does 'easter' eggs...(Oestra...pagan 'god'..!!) , and such in your post. My point is ..that many have sent me 'invites' ..as they want an old 'viet nam protestor' involved in this. Our generation ...knows the evil of the communist regimes',,.etc, and this is akin to the bolshevik rev ...of the 1917's...etc. Please explain...! I am a 'drum circle' member myself, but , I KNOW of the chanting/etc, and whence it comes. I am NOT their Judge or jury, it is to them to be responsible.
Here’s a lesson in economics for OWS. Explain to the “99%” that they are actually in the 5% of richest people on the planet. Then take their wealth and redistribute it to the 95% of the world that is poorer than them. See how they feel about wealth redistribution then.
who in the f_ _ _ do these arrogant , assholes think they are..."demonstrating on their behalf"..., how do they get 'their' authority....did we vote for them..?? ...did we ask bratty kids to do the work for us..???,..are they trying to get us back to a moral, civil society..??..Hell NO..! they are sitting in their 'drum' circles...like rank pagans..., this is NOT what America or 'america' is, or was about. It was about Christianized peoples, looking for a society wherein there was freedom...
@novokarpati Seeing as you don't criticise the video, does this mean you and your friends will introduce your non "drum-circle" influence to the OWS protests? Just what are you doing to counter the injustice? Acting for other people's benefit even when they demonise you as "arrogant assholes" seems noble to me. (PS as a musician, the amateur drum circles annoy me too but they are a tiny minority of the protesters)
@novokarpati I don't recall Easter eggs in the bible, or Christmans trees. You know why? Because the Christian Easter and Christmas rituals are actually Pagan in origin. And All Saints Day is a hijacking of the pagan Samhain festival. You might try educating yourself or at least ask questionsso as to learn rather than making bold statements accusing others of arrogance.
You help conservatives because excessive taxation of the wealthy does not result in an equal effective contribution.
At 0:36 you state in the 50's the top 400 were @ 90% & today they're at an effective rt of 16%. @ 0:55 the chart shows the truth, as they were charged at 90% they only returned approx. 10% & today it's in the mid to upper 20's.
Finally, unemployment remains high because benefits are consistently extended. It's shown most find a job in the final month before benefits run out.
"Finally, unemployment remains high because benefits are consistently extended. It's shown most find a job in the final month before benefits run out."
You make no sense. People will take whatever job they can find when unemployment is about to run out...you have people with college degrees working at Starbucks. This isn't right at all, and even those jobs are not always available. There's only a finite amount of jobs for everyone, most of which pay far less then unemployment.
You guys failed to mention that only 49% of Americans pay federal income tax. So, 49% of America will be paying a good majority of all government funded services? The only money the government has to spend is from taxes.
@RemixedVoice Shhh, that doesn't fit their message. I have a problem with 10% of all tax payers paying 70% of the taxes. When they say, "they aren't paying their fair share," I think the bottom 50% you mentioned who pay nothing only 2.9% there is something wrong.
" I have a problem with 10% of all tax payers paying 70% of the taxes"
Meh well..what this country really needs is some campaign finance and tax reform! Our tax system is so convoluted it's absurd. Do away with the IRS in exchange for a simpler, more straight forward system!
Also..this countries economy is based mostly on consumption, which is bound to fail. We need to go back to producing things...we used to produce so much more..now we just consume consume consume.
HOW ABOUT WE STOP BUYING PRODUCTS FROM MAJOR COMPANIES. STANDING IN LINE FOR THE LATEST IPHONE IS ONLY MAKING THOSE COMPANIES RICHER AND US BRAINWASHED. STOP USING CREDIT CARDS START SAVING STARVE THOSE BANKS TO MISERY
@TheDemand24 Stop YELLING. We are all right here. If your point is valid I'm sure some will read it.
I laugh at all of the OWS folks with their Apple this and that. They claim they are against the 1% but Apple is one of the largest companies...and it actually builds the products outside the U.S. It only designs them here.
Quick question, where are you saving your money if not a bank (if you say credit union, touche)?
You should be protesting DC, the unions and our political process. If there was no incentive for businesses to lobby DC than the power & connection between DC and wall street would be broken. No one would need to lobby for political favors if they were not there to be granted.
YOUR LIST IS A LIE - YOU SOMEHOW "FORGOT" the BILLIONS IN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS BY UNIONS!! Almost 99% to Democrats FOR political favors TO their unions.
@knightd00b If businesses' incentive were to help the people, instead of profits, then we all would have a better life. We create a progressive society not by creating immense wealth for the few, but by actually using our resources for the benefit of all.
@NeatNetwork That is the beauty of business. It's honest. It says, here I am trying to make a profit for myself and my family. It is the most basic acceptance of personal responsibility and personal success or failure. That's why people go to work in the first place. The benefit to society is a secondary benefit, by employing people, staying off the street and inventing newer and better ways to live. Big government and unions are the lie, because they pretend to be altruistic while they steal.
@NeatNetwork Most of the wealthy earn their wealth by being smarter and more creative than the rest of us. We create little to nothing. They are the dreamers of the dreams. We should appreciate their greatness, not try to tear them down because we haven't achieved their success level. Only if by the system we are not allowed to become wealthy ourselves is their a problem. Pursuit of happiness, not a guarantee.
@NeatNetwork If you want to get into business to help people, by all means do it! Nothing is stopping you. That is just not the motivation for most people. And most people everywhere in every political system get up and go to work for themselves and for their families. That does not make them "bad" people, that just makes them human.
But don't go slamming business bc they don't all have altruistic goals. That is their right and it is least an honest endeavor, unlike politics & unions.
@knightd00b Corporations and banks have stolen trillions of dollars from the American taxpayers and the White House spends more than $1 billion a day on 3 wars. We keep feeding to this perpetual war economy. You are right about politicians being dishonest, but that is mainly because they are employed by the biggest banks and corporations. Unions are organized so that people can have a voice, you know democracy, which the biggest banks and corporations aim to destroy.
@NeatNetwork I agree with you to a point & here is what I think your missing - The Federal government did the "stealing" while certain businesses & banks profited. Then the party members receive stock options or sweet jobs after they are done raping the treasury and the people. This is a both party problem & it will continue until it is stopped. Until the ability of Washington DC to dole out Political favors is diminished, than even if a business is busted another one will take its place.
@NeatNetwork The people in the unions have no voice, they are told by their leftist and collectivist leaders who to vote for and where to shop and who to boycott. They have again and again hurt and destroyed business after business, taking as much as they can under the guise of "fairness" all the while crushing the cities in which they live. Detroit, Chicago, Vegas are all crushed under the weight of "labor power".. Terrible declines in those cities. The NBA union passed on a 51% deal on 9 bill.
@NeatNetwork A limited, constitutional Republic, as we were founded is the best way to protect the little guy.
Pure "democracy" is mob rule. That means if the "democracy" decides to take away your rights, then you are screwed. FInd me anywhere in the founding documents where it says "democracy". What did Socrates say about democracies? In a "democracy" who has the most power? Those in the media who can influence public opinion. They are leftists, Unions are leftists, all vote democratic..
Tnx for explaining WHY this is all happening. As with lots of things disclosure is needed. The amount of money spended is beyond reality. Here in Holland it is exactly the same. Everyone knows but feels like a grain on the beach. Nothing the common men can do.
Revenge of the Cubicle dweller.....just sit there and do nothing. They pretend to pay us...we pretend to work. Many are working on their own business ventures.
Wow, if only the protesters who are actually out there knew this, your silly little movement might actually have some traction. But instead, they're shitting in buckets, screaming obscenities, destroying public places and wasting my tax dollars. America laughed at the movement for two months, and now it's just time to make it go away. You have no convictions and no real platform, so it's time to take out the trash.
You're seeing the symptoms of a debt based monetary system. All the money gets funneled to the top and to the banks. You should look into Austrian Economics. The problems you are describing are a predictable outcome, and in fact they were predicted by Mises, Rothbard, and others. Economics is a boring subject, but you have to look into it otherwise you will never really understand why what has happened... happened. Look up money is debt on here, there are plenty of vids that explain it.
Where did the 60 second ad at the beginning come from? The loser, jealous Tea Partiers are trying to hijack the Occupy movement. No one even finds them vaguely interesting. They distinguish themselves because they're 'law abiding'. Why doesn't the Tea Party recognize that the historical event from which they got their name was an ILLEGAL act. Come on right wing, get a clue.
I'm sorry but however continues to say they don't know what this movement is about is either an idiot or a lier! And those who expect the protesters to know how to get us out of this mess are lunatics! Do you go to the doctor knowing what treatment you need? This entire system is sick,and if the "doctors" have no idea how to fix it,then why expect the patients to have the answers? We might not have the answers,but we will no longer sit down and watch this none sense!Power to the people!!!!
Then, what's the solution? That's my only issue with the Occupy Movement. If you're going to protest, have a solution in mind so that problem can be solved.
No, you're protesting because you dropped out of high school and decided to make a life out of using drugs and trying to drag the specter of socialism in to a nation that is drowning in PC and picking up slack for those who don't pull their own weight and expect entitlements. If you want more money, go earn it like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did. Create, innovate, become, earn, prosper. That is the American way. Not this communistic B.S. clogging up out city streets.
@Jiffypistol I'm sorry, but I disagree. While I agree that many of the protesters, perhaps even the majority, did not make the right choice at the right time, the economy is deteriorating solely because corporations decided they value short term profit more than long term profit, hence the layoffs. For example: My father is a computer programmer, hired by Cisco. He worked for them for a year, then was laid off because his boss was given a quota, and he was the most recently hired. Is that fair?
Yep. Other people were there first. Bad luck 'ole chum. The corporations had nothing to do with it. Out of control liberal government nanny state spending put us in this hole.
@Jiffypistol Can you please elaborate on your argument? I'm not sure I understand. Even while CEO paychecks and companies are reporting record profits, they still persist in laying off a couple million people! How are they not even slightly at fault for the economy?
I agree that state spending was part of the problem, but certainly not entirely responsible.
My father also created a few products/programs for Cisco. He was more 'valuable' in terms of productivity than most of his coworkers.
More "valuable" or not, shit rolls downhill. That's just how it is. They are not at fault because a business owner has the right to make money, even if they are laying off employees. The business owner is NOT responsible for the livelihood of anyone else. If the liberal parts of the government had not taxed businesses out of the country (with respect to manufacturing, i.e. GM) then there would be more jobs and more American industry. Blame you socialist friends...and Unions.
@Jiffypistol The problem I believe is not shit going downhill, it as been this way for ever. The true problem is that most people have lost faith in our institutions. If the livestock which are the common people looses faith in the institutions then there will be people sleeping in parks, and maybe more if the movement grows.
@Jiffypistol So the sum of your argument is... "I don't give shit about my fellow americans, because I believe that their boss has the right to deny them a job or medical benefits, and let them die or live on the streets, even though they did nothing to deserve this other than not getting there first."
We didn't 'tax out business', companies left because they realized they could rip some poor dude in China or Taiwan off and have them working for a couple cents an hour. Blame your greedy friends.
No, the sum of my argument is "Life's not fair. Deal with it." Yes the boss has the right to decide who to hire, fire, lay off, and promote. That's why he's the boss. Having a job is not a right. It is a privilege earned by being the best qualified. First come, first served. We did in fact tax our businesses out of the country. When you grow up, perhaps an economics class would suit you well.
By the way, I only make $34,000 a year. I earn it. I don't sit in filth and complain.
@Jiffypistol If you can give me definitive proof that we did indeed tax businesses out of our country, I'll believe you.
I think that you should consider the fact that perhaps companies *did* move out because Asia's workforce is cheaper than America's.
You make $34,000? Great, you're a part of the 99%. Now, while you struggle to make ends meet, a CEO or banker somewhere is making hundreds of times your income. Do you see that as fair? A small minority gets more annually than you ever will?
Even though I don't have as much money as the people you claim do, I accept responsibility for the fact that I screwed up and dropped out of college and let my debt pile up. I am fixing that now through hard work and perseverance. I am now halfway to my MBA. Life isn't fair, and the sooner people realize that the better. I struggle as a result of my own mistakes that I own up to. I have integrity.
Unfortunately, people aren't always able, perhaps due to their integrity, or just bad luck, to recover from a bad situation. To put it mathematically, did 99% of American citizens fuck up as a whole?
@Jiffypistol Well, as a part of the 99%, I apologize since we have so obviously collectively fucked up. I am sorry that I tried to make you think that businesses are not serving people, as they were intended to, but screwing them. I'm sorry that I thought that hardworking Americans have rights. Most of all, I apologize for believing that these people don't deserve the unfortunate circumstances they've been placed in, or more commonly, forced into.
No one is forced in to anything. People choose their destinies whether they are cognizant of it or not. Getting in to crime, dropping out of school, getting in to drugs, being duped by the opiate of a communist utopia... I am sorry, my friend, that so many have made a mistake. Businesses are not meant to serve people, businesses are meant to profit. That is why people work, and why businesses vend. But most of all I am sorry that you see your country in such a negative light.
@Jiffypistol I see it not in a negative light. I just look for the truth. And the truth, convenient or not, is that companies aren't giving people jobs. Can we agree on that? Our lives depend on jobs. We don't choose our destinies; companies do. In a system revolving so closely around working most of your life, corporations must give us work, or nobody wins. Yet they always value short-term profit more than anything else. Laying off people is an easy way to make profit.
@Jiffypistol You're absolutely right. A job is not a right. Is it a privilege earned by being the best qualified? No. How come scientists, engineers, and doctors can't find jobs? They're arguably the most likely to succeed!
Companies need restrictions, or they'll end up destroying the economy, as they almost did just a few years ago.
"32% of the rich pay off politicians so they can keep their money and the system allows them to do it."
I agree, this is bad. No one is arguing that point.
What I'm saying:
Rich are paying tax (whatever the amount/bribe/donation)
Roughly half of Americans (the lower income tax bracket) pay zero federal tax.
Rich pay some, poor pay none. Hence, "if you look at percentages as opposed to dollars"... the rich still pay more...because they're paying something vs nothing. How can you argue this?
@chrisjmolina It's because their money is already gone. It was already taken from them. Of course the rich are now going to be paying money. The main reason is because that half (46%) of people have incomes that fall below the standard deduction and personal exemptions, the exemption for most Social Security benefits, and tax benefits aimed at low-income families and children. What I argue is that this wasn't ALL their fault. People are working their asses off just to support themselves.
@Lazyintellectual4 You honestly think the rich (corporations and not all of them of course) aren't a major part of the problem? A majority of the people that are jobless with low income are working multiple jobs and some are dealing with health problems that they can't pay for. These people just want to know what the rich are doing to make their money. They don't care if they become as rich as these people, they just want to support themselves to something acceptable.
if you think redistribution of funds is fair, next time you go to a restaurant (any restaurant), tell the waiter his service was great but, instead of rewarding him for a job well done with a tip, you're going to take his tip money and give it to the homeless guy who stands on the side of the freeway asking for beer money.
How do you think the waiters will respond? Try it out a couple times before you reply... and be honest!
Moreover, why should we penalize doctors, lawyers, managers, stockholders, etc. for earning a living?
Do you have any idea how many years these professionals sacrifice trying to learn their craft? How much loan debt they procure? If you want health care to take an even worse turn, let the government continue to reduce medicare reimbursements; then you'll really see a drop in quality and attainability.
Also, who are you to decide how much money one deserves for their work?
In proportion to their income, the rich pay the most. Come on, it's simple math.
Billionaires are in a different tax bracket and thus pay a higher tax on taxable income; these taxes fund unemployment, medicaid, homeless shelters, food stamps etc.
The poor pay no income taxes and apply for government handouts.
Recap: the rich pay, the poor take. The offset proportion is pretty obvious.
@chrisjmolina "In proportion to their income, the rich pay the most."
If you look at percentages as opposed to dollars, the rich pay less. Even Warren Buffet is wondering why his employees are paying a higher percentage than him.
"Recap: the rich pay, the poor take. The offset proportion is pretty obvious."
This statement alone makes me facepalm. 32% of the rich pay off politicians so they can keep their money and the system allows them to do it. The rest is also bullshit.
@Aeneas100011 Not a leftist buddy. I don't fall under any political denomination, but that doesn't mean I won't call out ignorance when I see it. I don't care for Obama myself, but I'm not going to blame him for things that happened BEFORE he got in office. It's very clear that you're a bias rightist and you probably blamed him for everything once he put his foot in the damn door. Disagreeing with informative material is one thing, but with bullshit it's completely different.
Drop taxes, curtail government bureaus and all problems will be fixed. Increasing taxes on the rich decreases total capital/cash flow in their respective businesses. This trickles down to a decrease in health benefits, total jobs, increased workload demanded on employees (to make up for the lack of additional hired individuals), and subsequent inflation - all of which will lead to a continuation of the malignant snowball effect depicted in this video. increased taxes/big government = always bad
This video is demagogic nonsense. The top 1% pay a disproportionately large amount of taxes. 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax at all. Thd Occupy Movement is a George Soros funded effort to divert attention from the failures of the Obama Administration.
@Aeneas100011 Are you dumb or retarded? The problems that are happening now were occurring BEFORE Obama got in office. To automatically place all the blame on him for things that were occurring BEFORE he was in office just shows your bias. Get your head out of your ass already.
I find it interesting how you ask us these questions as if we are supposed to give you an exact answer while many, whether they support the movement or not, cannot give an answer either. I'd like to point out that his intention was solely to answer the question why, as the title suggests. But in any case, the government itself cannot even come up with one. The representatives of the people are corrupt in their own part. Cutting tax loop holes down to zero and raising taxes on the rich
the "why" was made fairly clear but you didn't mention a thing about what you (or the movement) want to happen.
you think america will be fixed if we limit CEO pay to $1M?
top households with 87% rise in income. you want to tax them 70% so it'll go back down?
effective tax rate for richest going down.. what parts of the tax code do you want to change to fix this? get rid of favorable capital gains tax? that's gonna fix america?
We need to end corporate influence in politics: NOT A DIME of corporate money in politics. (I'd go even further: 100% public financing of elections.)
Corporate contributions to politicians that write laws on how corporations operate. Who could foresee a problem there?
Until the politicians that make the laws we live under are unshackled from wealty and corporate "donations" we will not fix this broken system of inequity.
Excellent Job T.D.C. I'm glad I subscribed. The naysayers should see this video. Although I'm sure all they would do is attempt to discredit these facts with lies & deception.
Not to be a pessimist, but this movement is doomed to fail. Just like all the other major protest's from before it will most likely be crushed by the cold indifferent powers that be.
ControverScielthings 2 months ago
@ControverScielthings Now, are you sure you're not trying to be a pessimist?
AnimalCackers117 1 month ago
@AnimalCackers117 realistic
ControverScielthings 1 month ago
so basically... the rich are getting richer, and the poor are becoming poorer?
neeharavi 2 months ago
we have Obama to thank for these problems, he is the current Puppet Master and war lover.
LuckyGuu 2 months ago
Read ATLAS SHRUGGED, get a clue!
LuckyGuu 2 months ago
Yeah, but who's really behind the movement?
Check this out-> watch?v=eMPlzmqrA5k
leesoarez 2 months ago
Google Ron Paul. Trust me.
patrickbohannon 2 months ago
this makes sence finally since most people cant give me a straight answer on occupy. but your saying they are greedy, but really it sounds like they are. why take money from these people who earned by making an empire. maybe they arent being taxed as much cause they make so much fucking money for the people that work for them if i wanna pocket a large sum of money for a company i own well fuckin shoot me then ha
portugaltheman6 2 months ago
And yet, working people still vote Republican.
blazak 2 months ago
54% <3
MoSxyxnr24 2 months ago
Actually, this is ultimately the result of the layperson, who has become too ignorant to understand exactly what they are voting for each November. Ironically, occupy protesters only harm him because they do not have a cohesive message (not that any of them promote an appropriate course of action to solve this problem anyway), so their protest is fruitless, yet it still bears a great burden on the economy (none of the occupy protesters are working)
Chaossangel 2 months ago
@TheDailyConversation You want to take a way the super rich's income.
What if the super rich took away everything they give to you? Zuckerburg shuts down Facebook, Begos shuts down Amazon, and Youtube is shut down by its shareholders?
Would your life be better or worse? These people are rich because they have gave you something. And you want to take more from them? Stop being greedy.
optionism 2 months ago
@optionism Kinda funny you say that because for alot of Americans everything was taken away from them when they lost their job due the greed of the rich oh let me be sorrry real quick you made 80million instead of 100million and kept hundreds of jobs
Theshit0345 2 months ago
@optionism
their not rich becuase they gave people something, their rich becuase they took something away.
you listed a bunch of dot com companys ignoring the real issue.
manafacturers who sell stuff to america and claim their an american company and then ship all the jobs abroad, bankers who take higher and higher risks just so that they can get a bigger bonus, and when their banks collapse, who suffers?
stfu if you dont know shit.
tuscanyiscol 2 months ago
@tuscanyiscol too bad companies have to take their jobs oversees because minimum wage, regulations, and taxes make business more costly in the US compared to other countries.
optionism 2 months ago
Funny that those who oppose OWS believe themselves to be among the elite, They dont realize that the 1% count only themselves as elite, all others are disposable minions of the elite, And they laugh at you while you do they're dirty work.
Certain laws were enacted to rein in the 1% ones like Monopoly laws, That now are completely ignored, It goes way beyond capitalism when Greedy Tyrants control everything and starve the people to squeeze the last penny out of them, Death to the Tyrants!
thatbritts 2 months ago
@thatbritts What are the laws? Not trying to be an ass but people make to many generalized statements
AlexJFit 2 months ago
@thatbritts I oppose OWS... I'm 18 years old, my mom is 38 thousand in debt... in what way do I supposedly consider myself to be among 'the elite'?
TheoryOfThought 2 months ago
I want. I want more. I want you to give me what you've got. I don't care if you worked for it. I want it. I want. I deserve it. Me . Me . Me
cloudberry121 2 months ago
What this video ISN"T telling you is that the top 10% pay 60% of all Federal taxes,,and the bottom 47%,,PAY NO TAXES OR GET IT ALL BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR!!!
Not telling the WHOLE truth is the SAME as lying...and this video is LYING to you!!
And this is coming from someone who work the last 40 yr and can't retire because of the 47%,,,and I only made $48K not millions nor do I get anything back at the end of the year.
Hermanvogel 2 months ago
@Hermanvogel I'll be the first to call bullshit on that. Gimme some proof.
jbrandonf 2 months ago
Wait, so you're suggesting that some people should have a 90% tax on their income? Why should anyone in this country be taxed at 90%? Would you like to earn $100K just to only get a paycheck for $10K?
Angel4711 2 months ago
@Angel4711 Where are you getting 90%?
AlexJFit 2 months ago
keep religion and money out of politics.
MrMewfasa 2 months ago
Why Occupy Wall Street is failing:
You guys are leaderless. You guys aren't going through the proper channels. You missed your chance to do something when cops used excessive force--THAT was your moment and you missed it. What you should have done? Got lawyers, got paperwork, filled legal action. Got a WRITTEN, documented legal demand. believe it or not, legal action works
BUT the OWS movement has been a great symbol, people are starting to see who the real enemies are. Good job for that much.
BiohazardBunney 2 months ago
HEY! i can use graphs and personal opinions to make a video too! but i think i would use my brain in mine.
davidcrigler 2 months ago
The Occupy protestors have the wrong idea. If they wanted to bring a real change, they would be protesting the government that has allowed the deregulation of Wall Street. The corporations, although nefarious in nature, are generally staying within their legal guidelines. We need to make it clear that taking money from special interest groups and lobbyist is not allowed. I think most rational people would back something that related to getting the corruption out of DC. There are no free lunches.
bringbkamerica 2 months ago
OCCUPY LAS VEGAS!!!!
XxLeoRiversxX 2 months ago
The point, well missed.
bryonlape 2 months ago
40 or 50 years ago people would take any job just to have work and then when they found a better job they would take it. That is not how it is anymore. I constantly have people submit their Vitae's to our company wanting to start in a management position, but they have absolutely no experience but they sure want everything. There are jobs to be had but there are just too many lazy folks out there who want to start in an executive position without even knowing the business... LMAO Good Luck
timb980 2 months ago
@timb980 40 or 50 years ago, people were told that if they didn't want to end up flipping burgers at McDonalds, they had to go to college. Nowadays, after people go to their college, they don't get the job they studied for, and people expect them to flip burgers. Make sense now?
Exemplariful 2 months ago 9
@Exemplariful Exactly my point... Our Country is turning into a Social Society and we are being taught to expect the government to jump in and help us with welfare. We need a new President who will tell the Chinese, Mexicans, Indians and every other country in the world that if they want access to our markets to sell their merchandise here in the USA, then we want the exact same access to their markets to sell our merchandise. That will bring manufacturing jobs back to the Good Old USA...
timb980 2 months ago
@timb980 you have a point...
Rinaszs 2 months ago
@timb980 If manufacturing jobs that could be done more efficiently outside the U.S. are brought back to the U.S, the U.S. economy will realize a net loss, because the higher costs associated with hiring U.S. laborers will be placed on U.S. consumers in the form of higher prices on the products being manufactured. Politicians only promote these programs because the benefits of the program on the laborers and producers are easily visible to voters, whereas the greater loss to consumers is not.
Chaossangel 2 months ago
@timb980 Put simply, you can have your american customer service operator instead of an Indian one, so long as you are willing to pay more for the product.
Chaossangel 2 months ago
@Exemplariful The first job I had out of college was folding towels at a gym, now I design residential solar power systems. My father did not go to college and works in aviation electronics. Now he is going back to school to earn a degree. Academics is an end to itself. Schools are for learning, jobs are for working. They complement each other, but doing one does not earn the other.
We have a peoples government, the problem is that we the people have been absent for too long.
Entasis118 2 months ago
@Entasis118 I just don't like to hear that working at fast food restaurants is a terrible thing. Flipping burgers can be a great start for anyone, those who do work those cook tops are gaining valuable skills learning how to work under stress. Don't let anyone make you think that such jobs aren't worth the time. Many times you have to start at the bottom to work your way up. Being American is having the independent responsibility to succeed. Measured in a variety of ways, not just money.
Entasis118 2 months ago
@Entasis118 The problem is that you and your father's cases are very rare. All those OWS protesters? For them, flipping burgers IS their career, not a pit stop, because other jobs simply aren't available.
Exemplariful 2 months ago
@Exemplariful What do you really expect 'them' to do about it?
"So you want to be a lawer... well... we don't really need one... but you worked so hard for it... I guess we could hire another one, you can hold copies of what the other lawers are holding so we won't lose anything."
TheoryOfThought 2 months ago
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@TheoryOfThought @TheoryOfThought What I expect them to do about it?
Tax imports from China so it gradually becomes as expensive to produce goods in Asia as it is here, and move the jobs to the US;
Raise taxes on the rich to pay for a universal health care system, too many people can't afford to live.
Deport and crack down on illegal immigrants.
Introduce the idea that being an entrepreneur is better than being an employee.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Exemplariful 2 months ago
@Exemplariful So basically, you want the US to be better off, and f the rest of the world? Take jobs away from them so we can have them. Crack down on illegal immigrants, forcing many of them to live in their own crappy countries. Raise taxes on the rich, who already have the highest taxes. And everybody owning their own company is better? Who would work for them if nobody is an employee? And many people are, bluntly, too stupid to run a successful company.
TheoryOfThought 2 months ago
@Exemplariful You should think less about yourself and your own country, and more about the entire world stage. Cheap production in asia means cheap products here. Raise the taxes on the 'rich' too much and there will be another revolt, in the opposite direction. Cracking down on immigrants... I'm sorta neutral about that. Not everybody can be an entrepreneur, those who are smart enough, and driven enough, already have the idea themselves.
TheoryOfThought 2 months ago
@TheoryOfThought The whole basis of my idea was to make it more expensive to manufacture goods in china, not cheaper. I don't think the rich would revolt; and if they did, well, they're vastly outnumbered. And the thought of being an entrepreneur is a scary and forbidding idea to most Americans. Illegal immigrants ARE taking our jobs without contributing to the economy, though I'm not sure how many Americans would be willing to take their places and jobs.
Exemplariful 2 months ago
@Exemplariful by having jobs and earning money they are contributing to the economy. only redneck morons who don't understand economics think that its possible to "steal" jobs. jobs are not a fucking consumable. illegal immigrants with jobs ARE contributing to the economy you fucking idiot, thats what having a job means.
tuscanyiscol 2 months ago
@tuscanyiscol No, they're not contributing in a meaningful way. Illegal Immigrants can't sue their employer if they're being payed less than minimum wage. Not only that, but when an immigrant is hired, they take a job that a legal, authorized citizen could have used. So, yes, you CAN steal a job, and they are consumable. Should I mention I live in the most populous city of my state, and understand economics better than you ever will? I'm not a redneck moron.
Exemplariful 1 month ago
@Exemplariful again, jobs aren't consumable. and you clearly have no understanding of the job market. most illegal immigrants take work in sector where there is work required.
the typically sited white example of the immigrant taking lower pay and making them redundant is a fantastically simlistic way of looking at the job market.
unskilled, low paid work is always in demand, anywhere, people who want a crap job for low pay can generally get one. and i meant what i said. you are a moron.
tuscanyiscol 1 month ago
@tuscanyiscol You didn't actually disprove my point in any way. You skirted around my arguments. Not only that, but you consistently fail to utilize punctuation, spelling and grammar correctly, and rely on insults to get your points across.
Look buddy, we're probably on the same side of the fence here. I call myself pretty liberal, this is just the one area I don't agree with. If you can state your argument like a civilized person then maybe we can debate instead of name-calling.
Exemplariful 1 month ago
@Exemplariful its the internet dummy, you dont have to "utilize spelling grammer and puntuation" the fact you hunderstood my comment meant that its point was acheived. just becuase i dont spend half an hour spell checking my youtube comments doesnt mean that my point is in any way less valid.
tuscanyiscol 1 month ago
@tuscanyiscol To be honest, yes, I am having some difficulty understanding your comments, and it does make your point a lot less valid than if you acted like a civilized person, didn't insult me like a child, and were having this conversation for any other reason than to boost your self-confidence and ego. I spend about 10 seconds spell-checking my comment; the fact that it would take you 30 minutes is a pretty good indicator of your reading level and intelligence.
Exemplariful 1 month ago
@Exemplariful
If you're bemoaning someones usage of grammer, it might be a good idea to use more than one huge rambaling sentence.
tuscanyiscol 1 month ago
People would take the occupy movement a lot more seriously if these protesters left their drums at home.
cskyinthalou 3 months ago
@cskyinthalou a couple thousand people living in a park for over a month is pretty serious, with or without drums
golfplayer93 3 months ago
These protesters want all of the money distributed evenly, well why don't they go out and start their own companies and get some of the cash "The Old Fashioned Way"... Earn It... It is no longer enough to get your High School Diploma, you need a College Education or you can work at McDonald's or stay un-employed and go protest. Protest because I am not giving you my money? LMAO
timb980 3 months ago
@timb980
That is not what Occupy is about. It is about getting corporations and banks out of the government and to stop the corruption in this trio that is destroying America. We want a well regulated capitalistic-socialistic society, not pure socialism. Turn off your TV and talk to some Occupiers, get to know them.
H3R0ify 3 months ago
@H3R0ify I am sick and tired of paying for people to be on "Welfare" which is what most of the "Occupy Protesters" are all about. Welfare = Socialism... This Administration that is currently in The White House has done absolutely nothing to help people get jobs. Instead of standing in a line all day and night carrying a sign, try getting two jobs and you won't have the time for your movement. America is still the land where you can do anything if you are willing to work hard enough for it.
timb980 3 months ago
@timb980 For every job opening there is AT LEAST 4 applicants (that is the least I have seen in any statistic). Its not as easy as "just getting a job" when the so called jobmakers give themselves bonuses instead of actually making jobs. Also the roads you drive on, the library you read at, the police who protect you, the firemen and women who save your life, the school who taught you, ect are all socialist services. If you want to capitalize those services you do not understand basic economics.
H3R0ify 3 months ago
@H3R0ify I understand your point of view. There need to be basic jobs for Americans. We are moving toward a global economy and the US is paying for it. The US needs to get back to basics of production and exporting. Our Government for the last 20 years has made it so easy for every other country to sell goods here, but we can't sell goods in China and other places. We need a new President who has some balls and scrap NAFTA and stop the "Welfare" for Big Corporate like Bank of America.
timb980 3 months ago
@H3R0ify Our Country is already turning into a Socialist Society. I live along the Southern US Border and the Mexicans can drive their trucks up here and deliver goods with very little inspection on their trucks. It is too bad that many Americans feel that it is the Governments duty to pay for their every need. Today's American's are lazy and refuse to work when they can sit at home and collect welfare. I have plenty of them that work for me. They refuse to vote but want to cry about it...
timb980 3 months ago
@timb980
I agree with what you said first, but the second I have to disagree with.
Many people don't believe that it is the government's duty to feed, clothe, and take care of them. However, many people believe that it is the government's duty to give us our basic human rights. Rights like health, education, food, and protection. It is government's sole duty to serve the people. What your saying is a generalization often used by conservatives but isn't backed by fact, just perspective.
H3R0ify 3 months ago
@H3R0ify I spend most of my week traveling for work and every single big city that i go to has the same issue. People wanting welfare with no limits or restrictions. There are jobs out there, but people don't want to work for them and they tell me all the time. "Why should I get a job when I can earn just as much money on welfare sitting at home"... Every time I hear that and I hear it every week, I throw their lazy ass's out of my office... They seem to think they can start at the top???
timb980 2 months ago
@timb980 Well said.
Exemplariful 2 months ago
what does 'easter' eggs...(Oestra...pagan 'god'..!!) , and such in your post. My point is ..that many have sent me 'invites' ..as they want an old 'viet nam protestor' involved in this. Our generation ...knows the evil of the communist regimes',,.etc, and this is akin to the bolshevik rev ...of the 1917's...etc. Please explain...! I am a 'drum circle' member myself, but , I KNOW of the chanting/etc, and whence it comes. I am NOT their Judge or jury, it is to them to be responsible.
novokarpati 3 months ago
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Here’s a lesson in economics for OWS. Explain to the “99%” that they are actually in the 5% of richest people on the planet. Then take their wealth and redistribute it to the 95% of the world that is poorer than them. See how they feel about wealth redistribution then.
RoboSlater 3 months ago
who in the f_ _ _ do these arrogant , assholes think they are..."demonstrating on their behalf"..., how do they get 'their' authority....did we vote for them..?? ...did we ask bratty kids to do the work for us..???,..are they trying to get us back to a moral, civil society..??..Hell NO..! they are sitting in their 'drum' circles...like rank pagans..., this is NOT what America or 'america' is, or was about. It was about Christianized peoples, looking for a society wherein there was freedom...
novokarpati 3 months ago
@novokarpati Seeing as you don't criticise the video, does this mean you and your friends will introduce your non "drum-circle" influence to the OWS protests? Just what are you doing to counter the injustice? Acting for other people's benefit even when they demonise you as "arrogant assholes" seems noble to me. (PS as a musician, the amateur drum circles annoy me too but they are a tiny minority of the protesters)
sqgl 3 months ago
@novokarpati I don't recall Easter eggs in the bible, or Christmans trees. You know why? Because the Christian Easter and Christmas rituals are actually Pagan in origin. And All Saints Day is a hijacking of the pagan Samhain festival. You might try educating yourself or at least ask questionsso as to learn rather than making bold statements accusing others of arrogance.
sqgl 3 months ago
You help conservatives because excessive taxation of the wealthy does not result in an equal effective contribution.
At 0:36 you state in the 50's the top 400 were @ 90% & today they're at an effective rt of 16%. @ 0:55 the chart shows the truth, as they were charged at 90% they only returned approx. 10% & today it's in the mid to upper 20's.
Finally, unemployment remains high because benefits are consistently extended. It's shown most find a job in the final month before benefits run out.
skibum415 3 months ago
@skibum415
"Finally, unemployment remains high because benefits are consistently extended. It's shown most find a job in the final month before benefits run out."
You make no sense. People will take whatever job they can find when unemployment is about to run out...you have people with college degrees working at Starbucks. This isn't right at all, and even those jobs are not always available. There's only a finite amount of jobs for everyone, most of which pay far less then unemployment.
Irockmarkdowns 3 months ago
PEOPLE JUST SCREAMING FOR THE GLOBAL HELP TO ALL OF US BUT POWERFUL DON`T LIKE IT !!!
MegaMikss 3 months ago
You guys failed to mention that only 49% of Americans pay federal income tax. So, 49% of America will be paying a good majority of all government funded services? The only money the government has to spend is from taxes.
RemixedVoice 3 months ago
@RemixedVoice Shhh, that doesn't fit their message. I have a problem with 10% of all tax payers paying 70% of the taxes. When they say, "they aren't paying their fair share," I think the bottom 50% you mentioned who pay nothing only 2.9% there is something wrong.
j(dot)mp/WhoPaysForTheUSA
skibum415 3 months ago
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@skibum415
" I have a problem with 10% of all tax payers paying 70% of the taxes"
Meh well..what this country really needs is some campaign finance and tax reform! Our tax system is so convoluted it's absurd. Do away with the IRS in exchange for a simpler, more straight forward system!
Also..this countries economy is based mostly on consumption, which is bound to fail. We need to go back to producing things...we used to produce so much more..now we just consume consume consume.
Irockmarkdowns 3 months ago
HOW ABOUT WE STOP BUYING PRODUCTS FROM MAJOR COMPANIES. STANDING IN LINE FOR THE LATEST IPHONE IS ONLY MAKING THOSE COMPANIES RICHER AND US BRAINWASHED. STOP USING CREDIT CARDS START SAVING STARVE THOSE BANKS TO MISERY
TheDemand24 3 months ago
@TheDemand24 Stop YELLING. We are all right here. If your point is valid I'm sure some will read it.
I laugh at all of the OWS folks with their Apple this and that. They claim they are against the 1% but Apple is one of the largest companies...and it actually builds the products outside the U.S. It only designs them here.
Quick question, where are you saving your money if not a bank (if you say credit union, touche)?
skibum415 3 months ago
You should be protesting DC, the unions and our political process. If there was no incentive for businesses to lobby DC than the power & connection between DC and wall street would be broken. No one would need to lobby for political favors if they were not there to be granted.
YOUR LIST IS A LIE - YOU SOMEHOW "FORGOT" the BILLIONS IN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS BY UNIONS!! Almost 99% to Democrats FOR political favors TO their unions.
opensecretsDOTorg/orgs/list.php
knightd00b 3 months ago
@knightd00b If businesses' incentive were to help the people, instead of profits, then we all would have a better life. We create a progressive society not by creating immense wealth for the few, but by actually using our resources for the benefit of all.
NeatNetwork 3 months ago
@NeatNetwork That is the beauty of business. It's honest. It says, here I am trying to make a profit for myself and my family. It is the most basic acceptance of personal responsibility and personal success or failure. That's why people go to work in the first place. The benefit to society is a secondary benefit, by employing people, staying off the street and inventing newer and better ways to live. Big government and unions are the lie, because they pretend to be altruistic while they steal.
knightd00b 3 months ago
@NeatNetwork Most of the wealthy earn their wealth by being smarter and more creative than the rest of us. We create little to nothing. They are the dreamers of the dreams. We should appreciate their greatness, not try to tear them down because we haven't achieved their success level. Only if by the system we are not allowed to become wealthy ourselves is their a problem. Pursuit of happiness, not a guarantee.
knightd00b 3 months ago
@NeatNetwork If you want to get into business to help people, by all means do it! Nothing is stopping you. That is just not the motivation for most people. And most people everywhere in every political system get up and go to work for themselves and for their families. That does not make them "bad" people, that just makes them human.
But don't go slamming business bc they don't all have altruistic goals. That is their right and it is least an honest endeavor, unlike politics & unions.
knightd00b 3 months ago
@knightd00b Corporations and banks have stolen trillions of dollars from the American taxpayers and the White House spends more than $1 billion a day on 3 wars. We keep feeding to this perpetual war economy. You are right about politicians being dishonest, but that is mainly because they are employed by the biggest banks and corporations. Unions are organized so that people can have a voice, you know democracy, which the biggest banks and corporations aim to destroy.
NeatNetwork 3 months ago
@NeatNetwork I agree with you to a point & here is what I think your missing - The Federal government did the "stealing" while certain businesses & banks profited. Then the party members receive stock options or sweet jobs after they are done raping the treasury and the people. This is a both party problem & it will continue until it is stopped. Until the ability of Washington DC to dole out Political favors is diminished, than even if a business is busted another one will take its place.
knightd00b 3 months ago
@NeatNetwork The people in the unions have no voice, they are told by their leftist and collectivist leaders who to vote for and where to shop and who to boycott. They have again and again hurt and destroyed business after business, taking as much as they can under the guise of "fairness" all the while crushing the cities in which they live. Detroit, Chicago, Vegas are all crushed under the weight of "labor power".. Terrible declines in those cities. The NBA union passed on a 51% deal on 9 bill.
knightd00b 3 months ago
@NeatNetwork A limited, constitutional Republic, as we were founded is the best way to protect the little guy.
Pure "democracy" is mob rule. That means if the "democracy" decides to take away your rights, then you are screwed. FInd me anywhere in the founding documents where it says "democracy". What did Socrates say about democracies? In a "democracy" who has the most power? Those in the media who can influence public opinion. They are leftists, Unions are leftists, all vote democratic..
knightd00b 3 months ago
The rich get richer and the people who keep this machine called America oiled get pissed on.
WatchdogDisciple 3 months ago
Tnx for explaining WHY this is all happening. As with lots of things disclosure is needed. The amount of money spended is beyond reality. Here in Holland it is exactly the same. Everyone knows but feels like a grain on the beach. Nothing the common men can do.
Dragonstorm1980 3 months ago
I hate economics. And politics. And whiners. I am the 1%. O_O
HeraldandGerald 3 months ago
Dude.... can you do a UK version?
......... because the Brits are just not getting it at all :(
HarrysSecret 3 months ago
Revenge of the Cubicle dweller.....just sit there and do nothing. They pretend to pay us...we pretend to work. Many are working on their own business ventures.
Corporate slave revolt.
MrGreatLakesBuffalo 3 months ago
Why no you go socialist? Why you hate socialism? Why you no see?
oldras 3 months ago
Wow, if only the protesters who are actually out there knew this, your silly little movement might actually have some traction. But instead, they're shitting in buckets, screaming obscenities, destroying public places and wasting my tax dollars. America laughed at the movement for two months, and now it's just time to make it go away. You have no convictions and no real platform, so it's time to take out the trash.
mattwillwork 3 months ago
You're seeing the symptoms of a debt based monetary system. All the money gets funneled to the top and to the banks. You should look into Austrian Economics. The problems you are describing are a predictable outcome, and in fact they were predicted by Mises, Rothbard, and others. Economics is a boring subject, but you have to look into it otherwise you will never really understand why what has happened... happened. Look up money is debt on here, there are plenty of vids that explain it.
jdm43 3 months ago
Where did the 60 second ad at the beginning come from? The loser, jealous Tea Partiers are trying to hijack the Occupy movement. No one even finds them vaguely interesting. They distinguish themselves because they're 'law abiding'. Why doesn't the Tea Party recognize that the historical event from which they got their name was an ILLEGAL act. Come on right wing, get a clue.
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The "Patriot Act" was an act of treason and tyranny against the American people!! We the people should demand that it be repealed!!
SilenceDoGood25 3 months ago
FCC net neutrality, is "CLOUD"!!
bart666a 3 months ago
I'm sorry but however continues to say they don't know what this movement is about is either an idiot or a lier! And those who expect the protesters to know how to get us out of this mess are lunatics! Do you go to the doctor knowing what treatment you need? This entire system is sick,and if the "doctors" have no idea how to fix it,then why expect the patients to have the answers? We might not have the answers,but we will no longer sit down and watch this none sense!Power to the people!!!!
Crisivanowski 3 months ago
Then, what's the solution? That's my only issue with the Occupy Movement. If you're going to protest, have a solution in mind so that problem can be solved.
danjigirl88 3 months ago
No, you're protesting because you dropped out of high school and decided to make a life out of using drugs and trying to drag the specter of socialism in to a nation that is drowning in PC and picking up slack for those who don't pull their own weight and expect entitlements. If you want more money, go earn it like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did. Create, innovate, become, earn, prosper. That is the American way. Not this communistic B.S. clogging up out city streets.
Get real....
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol I'm sorry, but I disagree. While I agree that many of the protesters, perhaps even the majority, did not make the right choice at the right time, the economy is deteriorating solely because corporations decided they value short term profit more than long term profit, hence the layoffs. For example: My father is a computer programmer, hired by Cisco. He worked for them for a year, then was laid off because his boss was given a quota, and he was the most recently hired. Is that fair?
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Exemplariful
Yep. Other people were there first. Bad luck 'ole chum. The corporations had nothing to do with it. Out of control liberal government nanny state spending put us in this hole.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol Can you please elaborate on your argument? I'm not sure I understand. Even while CEO paychecks and companies are reporting record profits, they still persist in laying off a couple million people! How are they not even slightly at fault for the economy?
I agree that state spending was part of the problem, but certainly not entirely responsible.
My father also created a few products/programs for Cisco. He was more 'valuable' in terms of productivity than most of his coworkers.
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Exemplariful
More "valuable" or not, shit rolls downhill. That's just how it is. They are not at fault because a business owner has the right to make money, even if they are laying off employees. The business owner is NOT responsible for the livelihood of anyone else. If the liberal parts of the government had not taxed businesses out of the country (with respect to manufacturing, i.e. GM) then there would be more jobs and more American industry. Blame you socialist friends...and Unions.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol The problem I believe is not shit going downhill, it as been this way for ever. The true problem is that most people have lost faith in our institutions. If the livestock which are the common people looses faith in the institutions then there will be people sleeping in parks, and maybe more if the movement grows.
hillcon45 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol So the sum of your argument is... "I don't give shit about my fellow americans, because I believe that their boss has the right to deny them a job or medical benefits, and let them die or live on the streets, even though they did nothing to deserve this other than not getting there first."
We didn't 'tax out business', companies left because they realized they could rip some poor dude in China or Taiwan off and have them working for a couple cents an hour. Blame your greedy friends.
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Exemplariful
No, the sum of my argument is "Life's not fair. Deal with it." Yes the boss has the right to decide who to hire, fire, lay off, and promote. That's why he's the boss. Having a job is not a right. It is a privilege earned by being the best qualified. First come, first served. We did in fact tax our businesses out of the country. When you grow up, perhaps an economics class would suit you well.
By the way, I only make $34,000 a year. I earn it. I don't sit in filth and complain.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol If you can give me definitive proof that we did indeed tax businesses out of our country, I'll believe you.
I think that you should consider the fact that perhaps companies *did* move out because Asia's workforce is cheaper than America's.
You make $34,000? Great, you're a part of the 99%. Now, while you struggle to make ends meet, a CEO or banker somewhere is making hundreds of times your income. Do you see that as fair? A small minority gets more annually than you ever will?
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Exemplariful
Even though I don't have as much money as the people you claim do, I accept responsibility for the fact that I screwed up and dropped out of college and let my debt pile up. I am fixing that now through hard work and perseverance. I am now halfway to my MBA. Life isn't fair, and the sooner people realize that the better. I struggle as a result of my own mistakes that I own up to. I have integrity.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol Congratulations on that MBA!
Unfortunately, people aren't always able, perhaps due to their integrity, or just bad luck, to recover from a bad situation. To put it mathematically, did 99% of American citizens fuck up as a whole?
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Exemplariful
Yep.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol Well, as a part of the 99%, I apologize since we have so obviously collectively fucked up. I am sorry that I tried to make you think that businesses are not serving people, as they were intended to, but screwing them. I'm sorry that I thought that hardworking Americans have rights. Most of all, I apologize for believing that these people don't deserve the unfortunate circumstances they've been placed in, or more commonly, forced into.
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Exemplariful
No one is forced in to anything. People choose their destinies whether they are cognizant of it or not. Getting in to crime, dropping out of school, getting in to drugs, being duped by the opiate of a communist utopia... I am sorry, my friend, that so many have made a mistake. Businesses are not meant to serve people, businesses are meant to profit. That is why people work, and why businesses vend. But most of all I am sorry that you see your country in such a negative light.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol I see it not in a negative light. I just look for the truth. And the truth, convenient or not, is that companies aren't giving people jobs. Can we agree on that? Our lives depend on jobs. We don't choose our destinies; companies do. In a system revolving so closely around working most of your life, corporations must give us work, or nobody wins. Yet they always value short-term profit more than anything else. Laying off people is an easy way to make profit.
Exemplariful 3 months ago
@Jiffypistol You're absolutely right. A job is not a right. Is it a privilege earned by being the best qualified? No. How come scientists, engineers, and doctors can't find jobs? They're arguably the most likely to succeed!
Companies need restrictions, or they'll end up destroying the economy, as they almost did just a few years ago.
Exemplariful 3 months ago
"32% of the rich pay off politicians so they can keep their money and the system allows them to do it."
I agree, this is bad. No one is arguing that point.
What I'm saying:
Rich are paying tax (whatever the amount/bribe/donation)
Roughly half of Americans (the lower income tax bracket) pay zero federal tax.
Rich pay some, poor pay none. Hence, "if you look at percentages as opposed to dollars"... the rich still pay more...because they're paying something vs nothing. How can you argue this?
chrisjmolina 4 months ago
@chrisjmolina It's because their money is already gone. It was already taken from them. Of course the rich are now going to be paying money. The main reason is because that half (46%) of people have incomes that fall below the standard deduction and personal exemptions, the exemption for most Social Security benefits, and tax benefits aimed at low-income families and children. What I argue is that this wasn't ALL their fault. People are working their asses off just to support themselves.
Lazyintellectual4 4 months ago
@Lazyintellectual4 You honestly think the rich (corporations and not all of them of course) aren't a major part of the problem? A majority of the people that are jobless with low income are working multiple jobs and some are dealing with health problems that they can't pay for. These people just want to know what the rich are doing to make their money. They don't care if they become as rich as these people, they just want to support themselves to something acceptable.
Lazyintellectual4 4 months ago
if you think redistribution of funds is fair, next time you go to a restaurant (any restaurant), tell the waiter his service was great but, instead of rewarding him for a job well done with a tip, you're going to take his tip money and give it to the homeless guy who stands on the side of the freeway asking for beer money.
How do you think the waiters will respond? Try it out a couple times before you reply... and be honest!
chrisjmolina 4 months ago
@chrisjmolina
Well said. Here be truth.
Jiffypistol 3 months ago
Moreover, why should we penalize doctors, lawyers, managers, stockholders, etc. for earning a living?
Do you have any idea how many years these professionals sacrifice trying to learn their craft? How much loan debt they procure? If you want health care to take an even worse turn, let the government continue to reduce medicare reimbursements; then you'll really see a drop in quality and attainability.
Also, who are you to decide how much money one deserves for their work?
chrisjmolina 4 months ago
In proportion to their income, the rich pay the most. Come on, it's simple math.
Billionaires are in a different tax bracket and thus pay a higher tax on taxable income; these taxes fund unemployment, medicaid, homeless shelters, food stamps etc.
The poor pay no income taxes and apply for government handouts.
Recap: the rich pay, the poor take. The offset proportion is pretty obvious.
chrisjmolina 4 months ago
@chrisjmolina "In proportion to their income, the rich pay the most."
If you look at percentages as opposed to dollars, the rich pay less. Even Warren Buffet is wondering why his employees are paying a higher percentage than him.
"Recap: the rich pay, the poor take. The offset proportion is pretty obvious."
This statement alone makes me facepalm. 32% of the rich pay off politicians so they can keep their money and the system allows them to do it. The rest is also bullshit.
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check out Milton Friendman's videos: he's a genius
chrisjmolina 4 months ago
Apparently you leftists cannot accept the fact that anyone could possibly disagree with your irrational economic nostrums.
Aeneas100011 4 months ago
@Aeneas100011 sometimes leftists can be worse than their right wing counterparts...
philafan33325 4 months ago
@Aeneas100011 Not a leftist buddy. I don't fall under any political denomination, but that doesn't mean I won't call out ignorance when I see it. I don't care for Obama myself, but I'm not going to blame him for things that happened BEFORE he got in office. It's very clear that you're a bias rightist and you probably blamed him for everything once he put his foot in the damn door. Disagreeing with informative material is one thing, but with bullshit it's completely different.
Lazyintellectual4 4 months ago
Drop taxes, curtail government bureaus and all problems will be fixed. Increasing taxes on the rich decreases total capital/cash flow in their respective businesses. This trickles down to a decrease in health benefits, total jobs, increased workload demanded on employees (to make up for the lack of additional hired individuals), and subsequent inflation - all of which will lead to a continuation of the malignant snowball effect depicted in this video. increased taxes/big government = always bad
chrisjmolina 4 months ago
FREE TRADE AND TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS ARE A HOAX
kn9ioutom 4 months ago
This video is demagogic nonsense. The top 1% pay a disproportionately large amount of taxes. 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax at all. Thd Occupy Movement is a George Soros funded effort to divert attention from the failures of the Obama Administration.
Aeneas100011 4 months ago
@Aeneas100011 TOP ONE PERCENT PAY MORE TAXES BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE WEALTH !!!
kn9ioutom 4 months ago
@kn9ioutom That's if this was actually true....
Lazyintellectual4 4 months ago
@Aeneas100011
I thought it was comparing it to the amount they had to pay in the 1950s.
The fact that you would even bother to defend the top 1% suggests to me you weren't listening anyway.
wheelsfalloff 4 months ago
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@wheelsfalloff "The fact that you would even bother to defend the top 1% suggests to me you weren't listening anyway."
Sounds right to me lol.
Lazyintellectual4 4 months ago
@Aeneas100011 Are you dumb or retarded? The problems that are happening now were occurring BEFORE Obama got in office. To automatically place all the blame on him for things that were occurring BEFORE he was in office just shows your bias. Get your head out of your ass already.
Lazyintellectual4 4 months ago
What bullshit!
Aeneas100011 4 months ago
@xtxoxpxd
I find it interesting how you ask us these questions as if we are supposed to give you an exact answer while many, whether they support the movement or not, cannot give an answer either. I'd like to point out that his intention was solely to answer the question why, as the title suggests. But in any case, the government itself cannot even come up with one. The representatives of the people are corrupt in their own part. Cutting tax loop holes down to zero and raising taxes on the rich
Sryiforgotmyusername 4 months ago
the "why" was made fairly clear but you didn't mention a thing about what you (or the movement) want to happen.
you think america will be fixed if we limit CEO pay to $1M?
top households with 87% rise in income. you want to tax them 70% so it'll go back down?
effective tax rate for richest going down.. what parts of the tax code do you want to change to fix this? get rid of favorable capital gains tax? that's gonna fix america?
xtxoxpxd 4 months ago
You have a good and clear voice. The automatic audio transcription worked surprisingly well :)
Hydorior 4 months ago
If you know a congressman; Send them this vid. If you know someone who knows a congressman; Send them this vid.
Multi-millionaires are way over-represented in the US congress by the way. Try electing a few less wealthy ones...
crocfme 4 months ago
we NEED to NATIONALIZE THE BANKING SYSTEM!
666katch 4 months ago 2
Well said :)
KpopManiacSFL 4 months ago
Do the John Wall to make everything right again
TheLiberalPacifist 4 months ago
Amen brother!
bamboo4tameshigiri 4 months ago
We need to end corporate influence in politics: NOT A DIME of corporate money in politics. (I'd go even further: 100% public financing of elections.)
FabulousLakeTahoe 4 months ago 3
You nailed a core issue,
Corporate contributions to politicians that write laws on how corporations operate. Who could foresee a problem there?
Until the politicians that make the laws we live under are unshackled from wealty and corporate "donations" we will not fix this broken system of inequity.
Highlyskeptical 4 months ago
Excellent Job T.D.C. I'm glad I subscribed. The naysayers should see this video. Although I'm sure all they would do is attempt to discredit these facts with lies & deception.
Friedstuffsable 4 months ago
Does not get any clearer than that.
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