I am a Christian, and Yusuf is correct. I have seen a lot of that too. It is so wrong what people do for money in my religion. However, there are a few good preachers who teach the Bible correctly, not all of them are bad.
@TheCheerfulChick93 OMG I swear you'll never find sickness the way I found it, there this guy, I think he's a zionist OMG he kept on talking and sending weird hateful things about muslims, like two muslims killed 350 muslims and I was like :S :S OMG
so I replied to him, and he was like the quran/allah blablah. then I gave him this stronge verses from the bibble that shows racisim and raping..etc, he hept on changing the subject, but I kept on telling to explain these verses first, and he never
his jokes are wasted on indians, dont "water" on my shoes and tell me it's raining loolll islam takes the good from a people and leaves it's bad, if white guys are good at something it is not anti islamic to keep it rather we learn from it as long as it in not contrary to islam
@Alcatrazz013 its not perfect its a bit deep south america. i think the reason why non muslims are interested is because he use to be one of them and a preacher too, so he knows things we dont about that kinda circle such as the fake miracles.
@AtheismTV no u dont have 2 rely on the context 2 guess what the words are if there is dots or mark but if there is no dots or mark u have 2 rely on the context im arab btw ill give u an example the word jadeed it mean new and it have only one dot but if u take the dot away it become iron so there is no need for context except if there is no dot then even me i need context 2 know what the word is not guess
that would be true if the Quran is only preserved by writing but its not its preserved by memory look my country is a small country it have now 1 million ppl and more than 50 area and in every area there is 7 to 10 block and in every block there is 2 to 3 mosque and in every one of them there is an imam or priest as u call it and the imam memorized the Quran every dot and every mark no 1 ever said my Quran is right and yours is wrong i listen 2 an indian imam and many more its exactly the same.
@AtheismTV np yes Memorizing long texts is not a miracle but the texts not changing it is especially in old times there is no hard disk..etc and long period of time u would expect to be many version like the bible could u plz watch my video and tell me what u think u can watch it from beginning to end but i dont think any1 would so watch it from 11:0 to 13:0
@AtheismTV Ok ill agree if u answer this Qs if the Quran could be changed by men why we have today one Quran? and when any muslim say Quran he mean arabic Quran not other languages
@fkaah But there ARE multiple qur'ans. Some versions qur'ans have been destroyed for political reasons, just like the catholic church destroyed non-catholic bibles in the middle ages.
There are seven versions still in use today, with many minor differences:
Abu Bakr `Asim, Abu `Amr al-`Ala', Ibn `Amir, Ibn Kathir, al-Qisa'i, Hamzah, and Nafi`.
Scholar Subhii al-Saalih says the differences include: grammar, consonants, substitution of words, reversals, additions/deletions, etc.
@AtheismTV Not versions its readings approved by the prophet and the meaning its the same in all this readings
i dont think u understand my Qs if there is additions or deletions in the Quran as u say why all these versions (readings) as u say all the same the same order of verses and chapters and in every verse of those readings have the same meaning did all of them who made these versions as u say think the same when they made it did they say i want my version 2 be like this version
@fkaah LOL this is called "moving the goalpost" and it's a fallacy. You said "why we have only one qur'an today" and when I show you there's more than one you simply move the goalpost and say "All these different qur'ans are similar." You also skipped the other qur'ans that were destroyed in the past.
There's nothing miraculous about a book that obviously was changed over time in several different directions. There's nothing miraculous about a fragmented religion ( Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Wahabi...)
@AtheismTV You said i said All these different qur'ans are similar but i didnt say that i say there is no qurans there is only one Quran.
these differences ur talking about i will tell u about them 1 word that say clear and the other that say clear the same meaning all of them is approved by the prophet if someone other than the prophet did this why did he only changed the word 4 another word like it if his heart allowed him to change the words of God why did he not change the whole verse
@fkaah What you said is "the meaning its the same in all this readings".
That's not true either. The differences are significant. For example yawmal-qiyaamati is missing in Surah 2.275 in some versions, and not in others. Hundreds like it
But even if you were right, you're forgetting all those qur'ans that were burnt. The only reason there's "only one" (according to you) is that all other ones (maybe even one that's the REAL one) were burnt. URL: tinyurl (dot) com/7sf9xcp.
@AtheismTV What readings that have yawmal-qiyaamati in it?
you mean the ones burnt by othman what about them even now we burn our Quran does this mean we burnt the real one ur the one that forgetting that arab in those days dont read they memorize they write thing 2 be sure not bcuz they dont know it and the example 4 that is my Gfather and my Gmother if i tell them anything that have a Rhyme 3 sometimes 2 times they memorize it but my father and my mother its longer 4 them
@fkaah You are correct, this is Ibn Masud's qur'an that contains these words. This qur'an is not in use but can still be found. Probably MORE authentic than other qur'ans.
For an example of a change of meaning in the qur'ans currently in use, here it is:
In Hafs' qur'an 2:10 it says "yakdhibuuna" = "they lied"
But in Warsh's qur'an 2:9 (notice how the numbering differs too) it says "yukadhdhibuuna" = "they were lied TO" which is the total opposite. This is just one example, there are many more.
@fkaah (continued) and memorizing long texts is hardly a miracle.
Saying there's only one qur'an is like the following story.
A man plants wheat and barley in the same field. His son comes to see him and says "There's only wheat in the field, this is a sign from god! We have to plant only wheat in the field from now on." The father answers "What? But I planted barley too." He goes to check it out; the son had burnt all the barley. THAT IS NO SIGN FROM GOD, IT IS A MAN-MADE DECEPTION!
@AtheismTV its not just the texts but the content. the fact that they were poetic and the prophet SAW didnt even write. i think the preservation of the quran is a miracle, especially considering the early schisms and civil wars, during a time of unrest like that it could have easily been lost and made up later with different books like the new testament. but Allah protected the noble quraan and all the information in it including references to 'modern' scientific 'discoveries' eg.water cycle etc
@boxermaf But the qur'an WASN'T preserved. It changed over time. What's left today is a couple of branches in an evolution tree of books. Like when the catholic church ordered all non-catholic bibles to be burnt. There's no miracle in that. watch?v=AKl0gA35HaE
I am a Christian, and Yusuf is correct. I have seen a lot of that too. It is so wrong what people do for money in my religion. However, there are a few good preachers who teach the Bible correctly, not all of them are bad.
brassoadam 1 day ago
all that was going thru my mind was DERKA DERKA MOHAMID JIHAD
yomamalikeme1 1 week ago
Allahu Akbar true
eceap1 2 weeks ago
Mr.Shaykh Yusuf Estes Miraculous happend is the name of the Lord its no doubts
you are still blind? Becouze Quran give testomany about Jesus is parform the Miracle. its means you not bilive in Quran
9987281797 2 weeks ago
when i watch more videos of islam and islam debates i just feel so thankful and happy,, and it makes my faith grows even more..
الله يحفظ الاسلام والمسلمين
يا اخواني واخواتي المسلمين لا تردون على السفهاء فهم ضالون وجاهلون فقط ادعوا لهم ان يخرجهم الله الى نور الاسلام
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته :)
TheCheerfulChick93 1 month ago
@TheCheerfulChick93
Salam Alaikom <3
but Allah said in meaning "Wajadeloohom belati ahsan" :)
DeenaAhmed669 4 weeks ago
@DeenaAhmed669 salam 3lakom <3
ur right i guess im just upset of hateful comments
TheCheerfulChick93 4 weeks ago
@TheCheerfulChick93 OMG I swear you'll never find sickness the way I found it, there this guy, I think he's a zionist OMG he kept on talking and sending weird hateful things about muslims, like two muslims killed 350 muslims and I was like :S :S OMG
so I replied to him, and he was like the quran/allah blablah. then I gave him this stronge verses from the bibble that shows racisim and raping..etc, he hept on changing the subject, but I kept on telling to explain these verses first, and he never
DeenaAhmed669 4 weeks ago
@DeenaAhmed669 masha allah :D
الله يبارك فيج ويثبتج على دين الاسلام
والله انج احسن مني و من المسلمين اللي يردون بردود سيئة وبطريقة جاهلية
بحاول قدر الامكان اني اكون نفسج :D
TheCheerfulChick93 4 weeks ago
@TheCheerfulChick93 hehehe...awww ^_^ Thank you soo much wallahi inti marra adorable! <3
DeenaAhmed669 3 weeks ago
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naarakyuu 2 months ago
@naarakyuu i know, he is fake like most of them!
timesplitters333 2 months ago
man poor guys jokes were soooo epic, why didnt anyone laugh?
MY21098 2 months ago
his jokes are wasted on indians, dont "water" on my shoes and tell me it's raining loolll islam takes the good from a people and leaves it's bad, if white guys are good at something it is not anti islamic to keep it rather we learn from it as long as it in not contrary to islam
lilblitz 2 months ago
atheism tv is the biggest joke ever the biggest liars ever
mobil909 3 months ago
this audiance didn't understand nothing !!!!!
1impimp 3 months ago
Which came first, the qur'an or the classical arabic languge? /watch?v=bBH0igZf-14#t=5m42s
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@Alcatrazz013 its not perfect its a bit deep south america. i think the reason why non muslims are interested is because he use to be one of them and a preacher too, so he knows things we dont about that kinda circle such as the fake miracles.
boxermaf 3 months ago
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soheilafghan1 4 months ago
The audience need a better sense of humor...-_-
DarkMoodRing 4 months ago 62
@DarkMoodRing YES!!
naarakyuu 2 months ago
@DarkMoodRing They don't understand lol
BangaliUser 2 months ago in playlist More videos from zimmerinhere
i like the way shaikh recite verses of Quran, keep it up
MacroUK 4 months ago
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AtheismTV 6 months ago
@AtheismTV yes bcuz there is no dots in writing arabic before but now there is 2 help non arab 2 read arabic
fkaah 5 months ago
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AtheismTV 5 months ago
@AtheismTV no u dont have 2 rely on the context 2 guess what the words are if there is dots or mark but if there is no dots or mark u have 2 rely on the context im arab btw ill give u an example the word jadeed it mean new and it have only one dot but if u take the dot away it become iron so there is no need for context except if there is no dot then even me i need context 2 know what the word is not guess
fkaah 5 months ago
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AtheismTV 5 months ago
that would be true if the Quran is only preserved by writing but its not its preserved by memory look my country is a small country it have now 1 million ppl and more than 50 area and in every area there is 7 to 10 block and in every block there is 2 to 3 mosque and in every one of them there is an imam or priest as u call it and the imam memorized the Quran every dot and every mark no 1 ever said my Quran is right and yours is wrong i listen 2 an indian imam and many more its exactly the same.
fkaah 5 months ago
@fkaah I misunderstood what he was talking about completely. I retract all of what I said. Thanks for setting me straight.
Memorizing long texts is hardly a miracle.
AtheismTV 5 months ago
@AtheismTV np yes Memorizing long texts is not a miracle but the texts not changing it is especially in old times there is no hard disk..etc and long period of time u would expect to be many version like the bible could u plz watch my video and tell me what u think u can watch it from beginning to end but i dont think any1 would so watch it from 11:0 to 13:0
/watch?v=jpVUVQ9Vgj0
fkaah 5 months ago
@fkaah Texts did change. They changed a lot. watch?v=AKl0gA35HaE
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@AtheismTV Ok ill agree if u answer this Qs if the Quran could be changed by men why we have today one Quran? and when any muslim say Quran he mean arabic Quran not other languages
fkaah 3 months ago
@fkaah But there ARE multiple qur'ans. Some versions qur'ans have been destroyed for political reasons, just like the catholic church destroyed non-catholic bibles in the middle ages.
There are seven versions still in use today, with many minor differences:
Abu Bakr `Asim, Abu `Amr al-`Ala', Ibn `Amir, Ibn Kathir, al-Qisa'i, Hamzah, and Nafi`.
Scholar Subhii al-Saalih says the differences include: grammar, consonants, substitution of words, reversals, additions/deletions, etc.
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@AtheismTV Not versions its readings approved by the prophet and the meaning its the same in all this readings
i dont think u understand my Qs if there is additions or deletions in the Quran as u say why all these versions (readings) as u say all the same the same order of verses and chapters and in every verse of those readings have the same meaning did all of them who made these versions as u say think the same when they made it did they say i want my version 2 be like this version
fkaah 3 months ago 8
@fkaah LOL this is called "moving the goalpost" and it's a fallacy. You said "why we have only one qur'an today" and when I show you there's more than one you simply move the goalpost and say "All these different qur'ans are similar." You also skipped the other qur'ans that were destroyed in the past.
There's nothing miraculous about a book that obviously was changed over time in several different directions. There's nothing miraculous about a fragmented religion ( Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Wahabi...)
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@AtheismTV You said i said All these different qur'ans are similar but i didnt say that i say there is no qurans there is only one Quran.
these differences ur talking about i will tell u about them 1 word that say clear and the other that say clear the same meaning all of them is approved by the prophet if someone other than the prophet did this why did he only changed the word 4 another word like it if his heart allowed him to change the words of God why did he not change the whole verse
fkaah 3 months ago
@fkaah What you said is "the meaning its the same in all this readings".
That's not true either. The differences are significant. For example yawmal-qiyaamati is missing in Surah 2.275 in some versions, and not in others. Hundreds like it
But even if you were right, you're forgetting all those qur'ans that were burnt. The only reason there's "only one" (according to you) is that all other ones (maybe even one that's the REAL one) were burnt. URL: tinyurl (dot) com/7sf9xcp.
You're a failure.
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@AtheismTV What readings that have yawmal-qiyaamati in it?
you mean the ones burnt by othman what about them even now we burn our Quran does this mean we burnt the real one ur the one that forgetting that arab in those days dont read they memorize they write thing 2 be sure not bcuz they dont know it and the example 4 that is my Gfather and my Gmother if i tell them anything that have a Rhyme 3 sometimes 2 times they memorize it but my father and my mother its longer 4 them
fkaah 3 months ago
@fkaah You are correct, this is Ibn Masud's qur'an that contains these words. This qur'an is not in use but can still be found. Probably MORE authentic than other qur'ans.
For an example of a change of meaning in the qur'ans currently in use, here it is:
In Hafs' qur'an 2:10 it says "yakdhibuuna" = "they lied"
But in Warsh's qur'an 2:9 (notice how the numbering differs too) it says "yukadhdhibuuna" = "they were lied TO" which is the total opposite. This is just one example, there are many more.
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@AtheismTV Who told you this mean they lied and this mean they were lied TO
you need to change your source or you need to learn arabic
i want to ask u something and give me a straight answer is there something eternal or not? yes or no
Watch and listen to the first 7 minute
/watch?v=tx7unjJUQZo
fkaah 3 months ago
@fkaah (continued) and memorizing long texts is hardly a miracle.
Saying there's only one qur'an is like the following story.
A man plants wheat and barley in the same field. His son comes to see him and says "There's only wheat in the field, this is a sign from god! We have to plant only wheat in the field from now on." The father answers "What? But I planted barley too." He goes to check it out; the son had burnt all the barley. THAT IS NO SIGN FROM GOD, IT IS A MAN-MADE DECEPTION!
AtheismTV 3 months ago
@fkaah LOL, didnt understand your comment man.
naarakyuu 2 months ago
@AtheismTV its not just the texts but the content. the fact that they were poetic and the prophet SAW didnt even write. i think the preservation of the quran is a miracle, especially considering the early schisms and civil wars, during a time of unrest like that it could have easily been lost and made up later with different books like the new testament. but Allah protected the noble quraan and all the information in it including references to 'modern' scientific 'discoveries' eg.water cycle etc
boxermaf 3 months ago
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@boxermaf But the qur'an WASN'T preserved. It changed over time. What's left today is a couple of branches in an evolution tree of books. Like when the catholic church ordered all non-catholic bibles to be burnt. There's no miracle in that. watch?v=AKl0gA35HaE
AtheismTV 3 months ago