@NeoGracchus Spaz down, chief, no one is making any apologies for Hitler. Hitler was an anti-semite, but Nazi Aryan/anti-Juden policies were from Goebbles/Fischer. Nazis would've continued even if Hitler was replaced, a planned internal Nazi coup in '45 was to give military to the generals but continued all party policies. However, when Mao/Stalin died, the death toll stopped. The CCP has continually revised Mao's fatalies upwards and the EU has declared Stalinism a genocide alongside Nazism.
@NeoGracchus Robert Conquest, the Sovietologist, works for the Hoover institute. If you're rallying against their publications, now I understand where your extremism stems from.
@NeoGracchus Even before WW2, Stalin killed 100-200K Jews, 5-10 million Ukrainians (Holodomor), 8-10 million in collectivization famines/Kuklak massacres, and 3 million "enemies of the people" in 1937-38 purges. (Read R. Conquest's study) Docs after 1945 are still locked.
Mao: Even non-govt Chinese scholars now say at least 40-45 million were killed in the GLF. Look up the Cultural Revolution and the famines in the 1960's on top of that.
@mattaki Communism is not a chimera! There has never existed a true communist country, only dictatorships by evil greedy, non-communist men. Read the 'Communist Manifesto'. Communism is very close to Conservative Republicanism; little or no government and people setting up a system where everything is shared by need, the people doing the work are in control not the corporations and no need is left unattended, medical , social or quotidian a system Jesus would have set up.
@Dannydoc1951 that's right, because jesus would've been downright appalled at the body count that lenin, stalin, and mao amassed. makes hitler look like a junior varsity chump.
@Dannydoc1951 Communism in this movie is the Soviet system, a heretical implementation to Marx's idea (just ask the Mensheviks). After Stalin's Kuklak massacre and collectivization, while the industrial class was increasing, the wealth distribution pyramid in the USSR wasn't proportionally much different than 1914 except for the czar himself. The most direct message is from the Emma Goldman character, which was ignored by many on the left and right respectively when exalting/blasting this movie.
@mattaki thank you the Mensheviks were in utoipia for five minutes then it was Lenin (not his real name) and the sad horrors of stalin later, a historian, wow....now that I am an adult and filmmaker I am taking these scenes apart to understand what Beatty was trying to say. comments welcome. I do not think John Reed was a reporter after all, they lied to me in journalism class????
Not sure, actually you might not have to be stupid at all to say that. That is an actual quote from Lenin about Zinoviev.
Now how it all went down in the Lubianka in '36 along with Kamenev? Who can say. But that's what happens when you are part of a massive, exiled Trotsky-led plot that started with the evil killing of the beloved Comrade Kirov.
At least that's what Stalin and Yagoda said. Why would they lie?
Yes, Stalin supplies plenty of ammo for sarcasam.
But I think you are a tad low in the numbers on the purges from 1934-38. You had anywhere from 10-20 million sent to the gulags, and you know not many survived.
@jacktheripoff1888 The true numbers will not be known in the Putin era, since apparently the police have harassed Stalin researchers and confiscated their work - and the foreigner researchers are prone to have their visas cancelled, putting an end to their research. I've read figures of a 2-5% survival rate for those sent to the gulag, depending on where and what era.
I was unaware that Putin was clamping down on Stalin researchers. It's a good thing that they compiled as much as they did in the 90's. As far as literature goes, I would say that the best reading I've done was "Let History Judge" by Roy Medvedev, "The Great Terror" and "Harvest Of Sorrow" by Robert Conquest, and "Hitler And Stalin, Parallel Lives" by Alan Bullock. Discovery Channel aired a really good doccumentary series in the 90's called "Monster-A Portrait Of Stalin In Blood"
This STILL gives me goosebumps despite the fact that I have seen this film maybe 50 times. The only thing I can even begin to compare it to would be Slim Pickens death scene in Pat Garret and Billy The Kid.
it had won best supporting actress, best editing and director. In addition to that, it should have won best actress, actor, cinematography, and of course best film.
My other favorite scene is the dropping aluminum cup in the hospital at the end of the film. This is my all time favorite.....
@inaz1992 HUH your accounts of OSCAR HISTORY IS WAY OFF..and before you say something WON Something..go look it up.......Raiders of the Lost Ark won best editing..Michael Kahn!!! Reds won Cinematography....not editing...it is so easy to look this shit up...why dont u next time
tra i miei preferiti in tutto.
elisa6825 1 day ago
tra i miei preferiti...in tutto....
elisa6825 1 day ago
Please anyone knows where exactly in Spain was filmed this scene? thanks
w1239345 1 month ago
esta escena es para lo que saben el concepto de sensibilidad, lo que significa...
mariolamarin 1 month ago
One of the most beautiful love stories ever
marylandria 4 months ago
Diane looks adorable in Commie Central Casting Worker's Drag.
poetcomic1 6 months ago
It is one of the best movies of the 20th Century and the one that book change journalism forever!
Diane Keaton, yes for best actress!
Angelflyboy 6 months ago
One of the five best movies of the 20th Century. Vastly underrated. Beatty and Keaton were both magnificent.
AndersonDE7 7 months ago 2
@NeoGracchus Spaz down, chief, no one is making any apologies for Hitler. Hitler was an anti-semite, but Nazi Aryan/anti-Juden policies were from Goebbles/Fischer. Nazis would've continued even if Hitler was replaced, a planned internal Nazi coup in '45 was to give military to the generals but continued all party policies. However, when Mao/Stalin died, the death toll stopped. The CCP has continually revised Mao's fatalies upwards and the EU has declared Stalinism a genocide alongside Nazism.
mattaki 1 year ago
@NeoGracchus Robert Conquest, the Sovietologist, works for the Hoover institute. If you're rallying against their publications, now I understand where your extremism stems from.
mattaki 1 year ago
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mattaki 1 year ago
@NeoGracchus A true model of scholarship and integrity in public discourse. Well trolled, sir!
mattaki 1 year ago
@NeoGracchus Even before WW2, Stalin killed 100-200K Jews, 5-10 million Ukrainians (Holodomor), 8-10 million in collectivization famines/Kuklak massacres, and 3 million "enemies of the people" in 1937-38 purges. (Read R. Conquest's study) Docs after 1945 are still locked.
Mao: Even non-govt Chinese scholars now say at least 40-45 million were killed in the GLF. Look up the Cultural Revolution and the famines in the 1960's on top of that.
See well cited scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
mattaki 1 year ago
they would've been fine if they hadn't gotten seduced by the chimera of communism.
mattaki 1 year ago
@mattaki Communism is not a chimera! There has never existed a true communist country, only dictatorships by evil greedy, non-communist men. Read the 'Communist Manifesto'. Communism is very close to Conservative Republicanism; little or no government and people setting up a system where everything is shared by need, the people doing the work are in control not the corporations and no need is left unattended, medical , social or quotidian a system Jesus would have set up.
Dannydoc1951 1 year ago
@Dannydoc1951 that's right, because jesus would've been downright appalled at the body count that lenin, stalin, and mao amassed. makes hitler look like a junior varsity chump.
mattaki 1 year ago
@Dannydoc1951 Communism in this movie is the Soviet system, a heretical implementation to Marx's idea (just ask the Mensheviks). After Stalin's Kuklak massacre and collectivization, while the industrial class was increasing, the wealth distribution pyramid in the USSR wasn't proportionally much different than 1914 except for the czar himself. The most direct message is from the Emma Goldman character, which was ignored by many on the left and right respectively when exalting/blasting this movie.
mattaki 1 year ago
@mattaki thank you the Mensheviks were in utoipia for five minutes then it was Lenin (not his real name) and the sad horrors of stalin later, a historian, wow....now that I am an adult and filmmaker I am taking these scenes apart to understand what Beatty was trying to say. comments welcome. I do not think John Reed was a reporter after all, they lied to me in journalism class????
thepixieful 3 months ago
I haven't seen this since I saw it in the movies, but I still remember this scene and it still makes me cry.
blkchk 1 year ago
Pense na garota q vc gosta, ponha a mão no coração e pense no nome dela 3 vezes e envie isso em 2 videos e amanha ela vai dizer q gosta de vc
Lord7Nick 1 year ago
What a film!
Portis1Luv 1 year ago
Stinking commies.
Zinoviev, Reed's hero, was a cowardly punk. Lenin said he "Was the bravest man I ever saw, after a crises was over."
He went out crying like a bitch in the Lubianka. Kamenev at least had some dignity.
jacktheripoff1888 1 year ago
@jacktheripoff1888 commies dont stink
how stupid are you to say that?
outskool100 1 year ago
@outskool100
Not sure, actually you might not have to be stupid at all to say that. That is an actual quote from Lenin about Zinoviev.
Now how it all went down in the Lubianka in '36 along with Kamenev? Who can say. But that's what happens when you are part of a massive, exiled Trotsky-led plot that started with the evil killing of the beloved Comrade Kirov.
At least that's what Stalin and Yagoda said. Why would they lie?
jacktheripoff1888 1 year ago
@jacktheripoff1888 Were you being sarcastic? Stalin falsified everything he could!
mattaki 1 year ago
@mattaki
Yes, Stalin supplies plenty of ammo for sarcasam.
But I think you are a tad low in the numbers on the purges from 1934-38. You had anywhere from 10-20 million sent to the gulags, and you know not many survived.
jacktheripoff1888 1 year ago
@jacktheripoff1888 The true numbers will not be known in the Putin era, since apparently the police have harassed Stalin researchers and confiscated their work - and the foreigner researchers are prone to have their visas cancelled, putting an end to their research. I've read figures of a 2-5% survival rate for those sent to the gulag, depending on where and what era.
mattaki 1 year ago
@mattaki
I was unaware that Putin was clamping down on Stalin researchers. It's a good thing that they compiled as much as they did in the 90's. As far as literature goes, I would say that the best reading I've done was "Let History Judge" by Roy Medvedev, "The Great Terror" and "Harvest Of Sorrow" by Robert Conquest, and "Hitler And Stalin, Parallel Lives" by Alan Bullock. Discovery Channel aired a really good doccumentary series in the 90's called "Monster-A Portrait Of Stalin In Blood"
jacktheripoff1888 1 year ago
@jacktheripoff1888 where did you get that information, if i may ask?
domapusic 1 year ago
The best scene ever!!!
er6789er 1 year ago
Absolutely my favorite scene ever in any movie.
dande1ion46 1 year ago
This STILL gives me goosebumps despite the fact that I have seen this film maybe 50 times. The only thing I can even begin to compare it to would be Slim Pickens death scene in Pat Garret and Billy The Kid.
1motorcycleboy 1 year ago
La plus belle histoire d'amour!! Merci beaucoup Mr. Beatty.
IrisClaudiaPezzali 1 year ago
it had won best supporting actress, best editing and director. In addition to that, it should have won best actress, actor, cinematography, and of course best film.
My other favorite scene is the dropping aluminum cup in the hospital at the end of the film. This is my all time favorite.....
inaz1992 1 year ago
@inaz1992 HUH your accounts of OSCAR HISTORY IS WAY OFF..and before you say something WON Something..go look it up.......Raiders of the Lost Ark won best editing..Michael Kahn!!! Reds won Cinematography....not editing...it is so easy to look this shit up...why dont u next time
UFOSPACE1999 1 year ago
One of the great scenes in film history from an epic that is epically underrated.
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago 7
Love this scene! Epic movie.
244rjs 1 year ago
...diane keaton obviously should've won the oscar for this.
ooks 1 year ago 6
The greatest film it's ever been my privilege to see.
JanineRobin 1 year ago
Beautiful. It's one of those scenes that everyone can relate to in their own way.
Not to mention both actors are extremely talented and beautiful.
HeyLookItsJess 2 years ago 2
sooooo well done. this whole movie (which i loved) was worth it just for this scene
mntlPurple 2 years ago
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Tigerlily21 2 years ago