English Civil War - Learning Zone (Part 2)

[5tonyvvvv]

Stick your cock in this Musket, and you can be as cool as Olivier Cromwell..!!

[steve4123456789]

Says the war didn't end until 1651.

[steve4123456789]

Fuck Cromwell, look at the state of the country now, I would fight for the king.

[TottenhamRocks17]

first things first it's not cromwall it is cromwell but otherwise it is a gd video

thank u

[VictorLepanto]

But would Britain be a democracy today if Charles' notion of royal absolutism had been allowed to prevail? I doubt it. The royals had to accept a more limited defined powe to return. Their return in turn checked the religious absolutism of the Puritans. So in the end, between these two extremes were secured British liberty. Hope I don't sound too much like an old Whig.

[TheFeralFury]

sic semper tyrannis. Enough said.

[freedomaintfries]

cromwell was a puritan fascist pig.

[SHONENJUMPBOY]

@freedomaintfries cromwell saved england from the king

[chris19001]

This is a very good documentary. Thank you.

[Robyn2186]

cromwell was a man of his time a soldier a statesman a god fearing leader he did the task set before him and delivered

[musketman2008]

I'm with the King. God save the king and success to his arms! This was a revolution and not every revolution is right or just.

[Steeleperfect]

Well said!

[huwwilson650]

To clarify before we can comment we must put ourselves in the situation of the time. In England it was God, King and Parliament (who spoke for the people). The people were expected to be submissive to the King and answerable to none but him. The King knew this well and as a result, he did nothing wrong except do what he believed him to do. Anyone who spoke against him were punished which they would have expected to happen anyway. I'm not saying it's right but Charles did nothing wrong!

[Steeleperfect]

Neither. He was King by divine right. And he considered himself the servant of his land. He was a man of great humility whose only fault was excessive gentleness. Had he been more ruthless, he would have won.

[333amigops]

I disagree, yes he was timid, but a man named William Pyrnne had spoken against him, and his ears were cut of.

[Steeleperfect]

That was not decided by Charles. He could have stopped it and didn't, but he didn't come up with it (unlike Cromwell, drowning a priest in a tidal pool for entertainment). The times were brutal. Charles was not a cruel man. Prynne knew what would happen to him. The penalties for sedition were strong, because there were so many people plotting against the throne. James I had almost been killed. Far worse things were done by his enemies, (like allowing his young daughter to starve)

[333amigops]

That's no excuse to appease Charles.

[Steeleperfect]

I don't think you mean appease. Charles is dead.

Charles was a good man. He wasn't perfect and he lived within the ethics of his times, which were not the same as ours, but he was a very good man and his enemies were vile, power-hungry traitors who murdered his fifteen year old daughter because they felt like it.

[tttaboo]

king charles was right about his right divine,after all the english chose another king(charles 2) to be their leader...

[witchhunter32]

GOD SAVE THE KING

[WhiteCrowUK]

A bit biased in the favour of Charles I there. The whole documentary lacks the detail of how he was trying to force a common form of worship on the country, and how he was found to guilty of treason, attempting to invade his own country using Catholic forces from abroad.

[Stewdanny]

It was not Charles I but Cromwell and his complicit parliamentarians who were guilty of high treason and murder in the highest degree.

[Stewdanny]

It was not Charles I but Cromwell and his complicit parliamentarians who were guilty of high treason and murder in the highest degree.

[jimmyjimjam01]

dont tell me you guys are still arguing about this.

[Steeleperfect]

Of course we are! Our liberty is vital to us and Charles I, God bless him, died to defend it.

[333amigops]

No, he died because he tried to defend his own power!

[Steeleperfect]

No man desired power less. He saw himself as the servant of his people. He was fighting to protect our rights.

[cavalier080854]

I'm one of those maniacs at 1.47 in white with a musket, its the Marquis of Newcastles Regiment of Foot. Why is there no mention of Scotlands part in the ECW. Scotlands 30,000 men swung the balance of power errevocably towards Parliment.

[brnleague99]

I thought Scotland was on the side of the Royalists? After all, they crowned Charles II king of Scotland after his dad was beheaded. Even though Cromwell was Lord Protector of the "Republic" of England, C2 was the Scottish king.

[brnleague99]

At least until the Restoration in 1660. Then C2 also became King of England.

[cavalier080854]

Scots Covenanter army entered the fray in 1644 and was one of five armies involved in the battle of Marsden Moor (outside York). Royalist armies were 1 Prince Rupert's, 2 Marquis of Newcastle, Parliament armies 1 Fairfax, 2 Manchester, 3 Leven(scots). After this Royalist hopes disappeared, Charles 1 fled to the scots in 1645 but they sold him back to Parliament. Scotland joined the Royalist cause in 2nd ECW and the 3rd ECW but were defeated both times.

[cavalier080854]

Sorry, Marston Moor (typo error). The war spread to Scotland with Earl of Montrose for the King to oppose the Covenantors and in the year of miracles brought Scotland to its knees. But Montrose was betrayed and was defeated and joined the future Charles 2 in exile.

[Steeleperfect]

The Scots were happy to betray both sides, as convenient.

[brnleague99]

Well England had treated them like shit for hundreds of years. What do you expect?

[RandlesBear]

you know charles was scottish though dont you?

[brnleague99]

Yes but I also know that the Scots were mondo pissed at Charles because he tried to control their religion.

[boroinczech]

@brnleague99 Its wasn't just Scots' Presbyterianism, but the whole of British Protestanism that felt threatened. The actions of both James and Charles destroyed Elizabeth's carefully balanced middle way. Marrying a French Catholic queen, being the grandson of Mary Queen of Scots, Laud's actions and ignoring a Parliament that was increasingly becoming influenced by the Puritans was going to piss off people from Land's End to John O'Groats

[RandlesBear]

not as badly as Cromwell later did

[mrfrostynova]

Aye, the English parliamentarians would almost certainly have lost were it not for the Bishops' wars starting first in Scotland and with Scottish help in 1644 after the signing of the Solemn League and Covenant.

[Mauricebear]

Yes and Cromwell had to smash the Scots in the 2nd civil which he did. Followed by the Irish

[dragonssports]

is this something u could give to ur teacher and she could show it for social studies?

[eddybennet]

Erm...it's certainly a relevant clip for History but only as a reference. You can't exactly pass it off as your own work or reasearch.

[montydendron]

59 signatures raised to petition his death.

I could raise ten times that to finish off Blair!