@GunPhysics 10/90 APAN is not so sensitive, but AP is a littlebit sensitive, but hammer on treefloor goes. =) Try it. But be careful. And read a lot of it before you begin.
Hey, stupid. You're gonna kill yourself with HMTD. If not kill yourself, then definitely change the finger count on your hands and your vision and hearing.
You just won't listen, will you? You need to get an ass whooping from your father.
I would like to know, what did you use to set off this stable mix? I know you didn't just use a piece of cannon fuse. I am new to ammonium nitrate devices. The stuff comes in little pellets always. Do you need to crush them to a powder, prior to mixing? Pm me Ultrasoniq please.
"do not mix AN as powder for apan? just mix pellets and AP? "
LMAO Look at that "mining industry" veteran asking how to make APAN!!! You fucking child. Get off the fucking YouTube before I forward your profile videos to FBI.
Positng Timothy McVeight and 500g APAN does not look very good for you. You stupid child.
AP is not dangerous at all until you squize is if it is not under presure it will just burn very fast but will not explode. HMTD manufacture is harder and the stuff needed are harder to find. Plus HMTD is quite similar to AP it is only slightly less sensitive.
bull! if there is more than 2 grams of it, then it will detonate under its own confinement but i dont think its tht dangerous still if your careful with it
AP is way too exaggerated in terms of detonation or deflag sensitivity.. It is only morons who handle it dangerously... other than that its a good start for HE, but HMTD process seems to not have as high of a batch amount so that may be why some prefer AP.
Well any primary is sensitive. Yes, it does depend on the user but weather its HMTD or any other primary, its still dangerous.
More product is made when producing TATP than HMTD but HMTD is a better ignitor than any other peroxide explosive. In other words, less HMTD would be needed to set off a bigger explosion.
And no. TATP is very sensitive (to heat, shock and friction). that's what primary explosives are suppose to be
From what I hear about the production of acetone peroxide, is its finished product rests in clumps. Then people come along and mix the acetone peroxide with ammonium nitrate. I would shit my pants litterally if I had the job of crushing acetone peroxide to a powder so it can be mixed properly. I can't imagine making APAN, since the acetone peroxide rests as rocks, not powder. How can you process it safely to a powder?? Ammonium Nitrate, surely is no problem to crush safely.
If Acetone Peroxide is synthesized with proper care, and the reaction cooled properly you will end up with a powder. There may be clumps when the Acetone Peroxide is drying, but once it is completely dry these clumps will just fall apart. Very rarely will you get clumps, and even if you do TATP isn't so unstable that it will detonate when you flatten the clump with a plastic spoon, unless you have formed the especially unstable dimer form.
I have the army manual that says you can use the Acetopne Peroxide as a blasting cap and set off a seperate amount of Ammonium Nitrate but it would need another high explosive, like TNT for example, as a booster.
@randyclar747 I would agree with crushing and mixing them together, but Acetone Peroxide does not rest in clumps, that only happens rarely when its wet.
@randyclar747 you have to crush it when it's not complete dry using plastic spoot . My process AP is not as a rock maybe your process is too much hydrogen peroxcide
soooo. APAN or just plane Acetone Peroxide is sensable to heat, shock, and fricton while ANFO isnt. so you would be able to make a little APAN as a booster for some ANFO by using a wick? or could you even just make a little home made black powder bomb to act as a booster for the ANFO?
Preparing hmtd is similar (but not exactly) the same as preparing AP. Muriatic (HCL-Hydrochloric) won't wok for HMTD. You will get the best results...i.e, yield and effectiveness if you use citric acid.
Thats not true. I use HCl (notice the L is capitalized!) to make HMTD all of the time. HMTD just requires more HCl to work properly. With 40mL of 35% H2O2 and 14g hexamine, I add 15mL HCl and the reaction takes about 24 hours.
My previous ratios=equivalent, sorry. I meant something more like OB APAN booster, ANFO secondary. And choice of primary charge/initiating charge(AP,HMTD,NAN3,UN,ETC,..) Two stage boosters seem to work well, and consistently prepared in the proper fasion. Pyro is correct, ANNM is a fantastic secondary easily obtained. Much cheaper, more effective in smaller quantities, and also helps to stretch supplies a bit further.
fikk dem av en kompis, de har pakkeplast/krympeplast på dem, så de bruker å pakke inn ting med.... du får sikkert tak i dem på alle lager i hele sverige =)
What sort of container for the charge did you use? it aroused my curiosity when i saw a huge black cylinder. My guess was a large co2 canister or pipe. Anyhow, very nice. Also very impressive. Side note: you could have gotten a much bigger bang for your buck using a 3:1 ratio APAN as a primary and a 1:3 ratio ANAP as a secondary. Great work though. I look forward to seeing many more videos from you lol. stay safe and be careful. HAPPY NEW YEAR
haha oh well, very impressive then. i am surprised to hear that you blew the shit out of that box with pvc. nasty little bugger apan can be =]]]] in a totally good way. cheers
What sort of container for the charge did you use? it aroused my curiosity when i saw a huge black cylinder. My guess was a large co2 canister or pipe. Anyhow, very nice. Also very impressive. Side note: you could have gotten a much bigger bang for your buck using a 3:1 ratio APAN as a primary and a 1:3 ratio ANAP as a secondary. Great work though. I look forward to seeing many more videos from you lol. be safe
600g APAN seems a bit large, why not just use APAN as a booster and make the bulk of the bomb ANFO or something?... 100% APAN i'm assumeing must by nature be more powerfull than ANFO?.. never thaught about it, kinda scary working with over half a kilo of APAN though yea?.. i mean jessus thats like 70g of AP!?!?!!
I agree. you should never use apan as the primary on something that large. annm is like 160% as powerful as tnt, use the apan as a booster to set that off.
Actually, ANFO, and especially ANNM, is more powerful than APAN if prepared and initiated properly, so it beats me why they use pure APAN as primary. Could have made three more pounds of ANFO easily and used this charge as an ideal initiator.
That would have been INSANE, btw. Still, Great work!
jeg håber du ved at hvis det springer for tæt på river det ikke bare en arm eller et ben af. det ødelægger vævet og det kan ikke bare repareres.
lederti 4 months ago
@lederti D vet jeg.Men tusen takk for advarselen og omtanken =D
ULTRASONIQ 4 months ago
probably a good detonator material, not very powerful as a main charge
nmmiller280 6 months ago
Nice vid! I got a question: is APAN the same as AP/AN?? And I know the AN stands for Ammonium Nitrate but what does the AP stand for? Thanks!
Kuploosh 8 months ago
@Kuploosh Yes it is. AP stands for Acetone Peroxide =)
ULTRASONIQ 8 months ago
@ULTRASONIQ Ah ok. Thanks!
Kuploosh 8 months ago
Apan haha, apan = monkey in swedish
nofreedomofspeech 9 months ago
APAN is weak, instead of using ammonium nitrate use ammonium perchlorate, it reacts faster and with more energy than ammonium nitrate.
Nitricthunder 9 months ago
@Nitricthunder I know, but where I come from, the perchlorate is 20 times more expensive than nitrate =) Soo.. what would you use ?? hehe
ULTRASONIQ 9 months ago
HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THAT FREEZER GO!!!!
masterbenjamin 10 months ago
@VinnieDain424 Jeg detonerte det med en 50/50 mix av AP/AN
ULTRASONIQ 1 year ago
@VinnieDain424 50/50 APAN ;)
ULTRASONIQ 1 year ago
How sensitive is APAN?
GunPhysics 1 year ago
@GunPhysics 10/90 APAN is not so sensitive, but AP is a littlebit sensitive, but hammer on treefloor goes. =) Try it. But be careful. And read a lot of it before you begin.
-Take care
ULTRASONIQ 1 year ago
@ULTRASONIQ Thanks for answering. How about replacing AP with HMTD? It would increase the storage time/safety. Also great video you've got a sub.
GunPhysics 1 year ago
@GunPhysics Dont now anything about HMTD. I dont do high explosives anymore thoug, I'm too fond of my life hehe.
ULTRASONIQ 1 year ago
@GunPhysics I Dont now anything about HMTD. I dont do high explosives anymore thoug, I'm too fond of my life hehe.
ULTRASONIQ 1 year ago
@ULTRASONIQ Too bad. Does that mean you wont upload any new videos?
GunPhysics 1 year ago
@GunPhysics There will be more videos by shells and homemade fireworks. Maybe some time in the future there will be more HE videos ;)
ULTRASONIQ 1 year ago
@GunPhysics
Hey, stupid. You're gonna kill yourself with HMTD. If not kill yourself, then definitely change the finger count on your hands and your vision and hearing.
You just won't listen, will you? You need to get an ass whooping from your father.
dawson01912 1 year ago
HAHA
Dittatore22 1 year ago
awesome. What are the ratios, and what not please?
randyclar747 2 years ago
10/90
ULTRASONIQ 2 years ago
I would like to know, what did you use to set off this stable mix? I know you didn't just use a piece of cannon fuse. I am new to ammonium nitrate devices. The stuff comes in little pellets always. Do you need to crush them to a powder, prior to mixing? Pm me Ultrasoniq please.
randyclar747 2 years ago
dont crush the pellets. put the acetone peroxide in a metal tube and put that inside a container of ammonium nitrate.
arkfussion 1 year ago
do not mix AN as powder for apan? just mix pellets and AP?
Rzaforshiza 1 year ago
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@Rzaforshiza
"do not mix AN as powder for apan? just mix pellets and AP? "
LMAO Look at that "mining industry" veteran asking how to make APAN!!! You fucking child. Get off the fucking YouTube before I forward your profile videos to FBI.
Positng Timothy McVeight and 500g APAN does not look very good for you. You stupid child.
dawson01913 1 year ago
@Rzaforshiza
You are retarded newb. First thing trying to learn ...........APAN. ***Facepalm***
dawson01913 1 year ago
Hvordan lager du APAN? Må bare vite det. Digger videoen din.
MrJervell 2 years ago
Fett!
Aljokuli 2 years ago
try with aluminium powder 10%
jaras0303 2 years ago
you idiot T_T what if static sets it off
KooKooCow 2 years ago
dont even fuck with AP
go with HMTD if you gonna make a peroxide its MUCH safer
but harder to find..
EIMScrew90s 2 years ago
AP is not dangerous at all until you squize is if it is not under presure it will just burn very fast but will not explode. HMTD manufacture is harder and the stuff needed are harder to find. Plus HMTD is quite similar to AP it is only slightly less sensitive.
bobilas 2 years ago
bull! if there is more than 2 grams of it, then it will detonate under its own confinement but i dont think its tht dangerous still if your careful with it
vdl1996 2 years ago
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MrGreatmoviemaker 2 years ago
you obviously have no idea what your talking about, even if AP is lightly compressed it can go off becuase of static or even friction
KooKooCow 2 years ago
AP is way too exaggerated in terms of detonation or deflag sensitivity.. It is only morons who handle it dangerously... other than that its a good start for HE, but HMTD process seems to not have as high of a batch amount so that may be why some prefer AP.
Chslosers 2 years ago
Well any primary is sensitive. Yes, it does depend on the user but weather its HMTD or any other primary, its still dangerous.
More product is made when producing TATP than HMTD but HMTD is a better ignitor than any other peroxide explosive. In other words, less HMTD would be needed to set off a bigger explosion.
And no. TATP is very sensitive (to heat, shock and friction). that's what primary explosives are suppose to be
EIMScrew90s 2 years ago
fucking awesome!
tunicanl 2 years ago
comment fait tu pour sécher la nitrate d'ammonium ?
nicovvvv44 2 years ago
un séchoir a cheveux ou tu la laisse sécher dehors au soleil
LvBomb 2 years ago
youtube not zefu fastan!
sparklerbombg 2 years ago
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sparklerbombg 2 years ago
What the fuck is the point!?!?!
jasdiofa 2 years ago
From what I hear about the production of acetone peroxide, is its finished product rests in clumps. Then people come along and mix the acetone peroxide with ammonium nitrate. I would shit my pants litterally if I had the job of crushing acetone peroxide to a powder so it can be mixed properly. I can't imagine making APAN, since the acetone peroxide rests as rocks, not powder. How can you process it safely to a powder?? Ammonium Nitrate, surely is no problem to crush safely.
randyclar747 2 years ago 6
Crush it with a plasticspoon together with powdered an. in small charges. Its not so verry dangerous if you no what your doing =)
ULTRASONIQ 2 years ago
There is a 50/50 APAN, and a 12/88APAN mix. These are both weight, not volume ratios correct?
randyclar747 2 years ago
weight, yes =)
ULTRASONIQ 2 years ago
If Acetone Peroxide is synthesized with proper care, and the reaction cooled properly you will end up with a powder. There may be clumps when the Acetone Peroxide is drying, but once it is completely dry these clumps will just fall apart. Very rarely will you get clumps, and even if you do TATP isn't so unstable that it will detonate when you flatten the clump with a plastic spoon, unless you have formed the especially unstable dimer form.
Stopbeingfaggots 2 years ago
@randyclar747
I have the army manual that says you can use the Acetopne Peroxide as a blasting cap and set off a seperate amount of Ammonium Nitrate but it would need another high explosive, like TNT for example, as a booster.
TAMYCRON 1 year ago
@randyclar747 I would agree with crushing and mixing them together, but Acetone Peroxide does not rest in clumps, that only happens rarely when its wet.
AfricanPyro 1 year ago
@randyclar747 you have to crush it when it's not complete dry using plastic spoot . My process AP is not as a rock maybe your process is too much hydrogen peroxcide
nuanfo 11 months ago
Stick with flash powder kids! =)
LucasA753 2 years ago
hur gör man sånthär då
psychobarnet 3 years ago
who that sounded aweosme with my subwoofer
theflamingpanda 3 years ago
no bp doesn't have enough shock to set of ANFO u need a blasting cap like APAN, AP, HMTD......
PYROMAN562 3 years ago
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sparklerbombg 2 years ago
soooo. APAN or just plane Acetone Peroxide is sensable to heat, shock, and fricton while ANFO isnt. so you would be able to make a little APAN as a booster for some ANFO by using a wick? or could you even just make a little home made black powder bomb to act as a booster for the ANFO?
sk8pwner9 3 years ago
hvor fikk du tak i hydrogen peroxide...
tazexmania 3 years ago
HOLY SHIT!!!
twenglish1 3 years ago
The other canadian,
Preparing hmtd is similar (but not exactly) the same as preparing AP. Muriatic (HCL-Hydrochloric) won't wok for HMTD. You will get the best results...i.e, yield and effectiveness if you use citric acid.
MetalRunner4 3 years ago
Thats not true. I use HCl (notice the L is capitalized!) to make HMTD all of the time. HMTD just requires more HCl to work properly. With 40mL of 35% H2O2 and 14g hexamine, I add 15mL HCl and the reaction takes about 24 hours.
rltw04 3 years ago 3
I meant to type the "l" is NOT capitalized. Oops : D
rltw04 3 years ago
how many grams are yielded?
dhrider1 3 years ago
My previous ratios=equivalent, sorry. I meant something more like OB APAN booster, ANFO secondary. And choice of primary charge/initiating charge(AP,HMTD,NAN3,UN,ETC,..) Two stage boosters seem to work well, and consistently prepared in the proper fasion. Pyro is correct, ANNM is a fantastic secondary easily obtained. Much cheaper, more effective in smaller quantities, and also helps to stretch supplies a bit further.
CHEERS
winstonbandb 4 years ago
to make hmtd do u do the same thing u would to make AP? does muriatic acid work for hmtd too?
theothercanadian 4 years ago
var fick du tag på hårda pappersrör?
hgfsdhg 4 years ago
fikk dem av en kompis, de har pakkeplast/krympeplast på dem, så de bruker å pakke inn ting med.... du får sikkert tak i dem på alle lager i hele sverige =)
ULTRASONIQ 4 years ago
What sort of container for the charge did you use? it aroused my curiosity when i saw a huge black cylinder. My guess was a large co2 canister or pipe. Anyhow, very nice. Also very impressive. Side note: you could have gotten a much bigger bang for your buck using a 3:1 ratio APAN as a primary and a 1:3 ratio ANAP as a secondary. Great work though. I look forward to seeing many more videos from you lol. stay safe and be careful. HAPPY NEW YEAR
winstonbandb 4 years ago
I used a hard paper cylynder for the charge, and a 13mm pvc pipe for the booster...I just tok some black tape oround it..=) happy new year u 2 =)(=
ULTRASONIQ 4 years ago
haha oh well, very impressive then. i am surprised to hear that you blew the shit out of that box with pvc. nasty little bugger apan can be =]]]] in a totally good way. cheers
winstonbandb 4 years ago
What sort of container for the charge did you use? it aroused my curiosity when i saw a huge black cylinder. My guess was a large co2 canister or pipe. Anyhow, very nice. Also very impressive. Side note: you could have gotten a much bigger bang for your buck using a 3:1 ratio APAN as a primary and a 1:3 ratio ANAP as a secondary. Great work though. I look forward to seeing many more videos from you lol. be safe
winstonbandb 4 years ago
600g APAN seems a bit large, why not just use APAN as a booster and make the bulk of the bomb ANFO or something?... 100% APAN i'm assumeing must by nature be more powerfull than ANFO?.. never thaught about it, kinda scary working with over half a kilo of APAN though yea?.. i mean jessus thats like 70g of AP!?!?!!
ekimkraur 4 years ago
I agree. you should never use apan as the primary on something that large. annm is like 160% as powerful as tnt, use the apan as a booster to set that off.
hptk01 4 years ago
Actually, ANFO, and especially ANNM, is more powerful than APAN if prepared and initiated properly, so it beats me why they use pure APAN as primary. Could have made three more pounds of ANFO easily and used this charge as an ideal initiator.
That would have been INSANE, btw. Still, Great work!
Pyrodregget 4 years ago
Oh, and mind the shrapnel. Those bits would have decapitated anyone close enough, so keep your distance.
Pyrodregget 4 years ago
apan is fucking dangerous, loser
Xardas7489230 4 years ago
DUDE SHUT UP! We know what we are doing!
mcbombs 4 years ago
n1 n1 n1 n1 n1 n1
entetheking 4 years ago
how do u get apan
richj005 4 years ago
make it
ULTRASONIQ 4 years ago
what is it
richj005 4 years ago
acetone peroxide and ammonium nitrate
CrotchBrowny 4 years ago
Pent
Tamasen1 4 years ago
you meant, petn?
mcbombs 4 years ago
lol apan is fucking shit damn man apan is a looser explosive its damn dangerous man
weedkiller91 4 years ago
Did you use a blasting cap to apan?
Kallebongoa 5 years ago
no, i used home made booster with 50/50 apan (maby 50 g)
ULTRASONIQ 5 years ago
Haha men vart fick du den ifrån ? :)
laztic 5 years ago
lagde den selv seff... ;)
alle lager apan en sin selv...
ULTRASONIQ 5 years ago
vart får man tag på sånna smällare ? :D
laztic 5 years ago
I vertfall inte i leksak butikan =D
ULTRASONIQ 5 years ago
Uhm nice charge!!!
Jacollonzolo 5 years ago
Fuck en fed lyd
Uberownager 5 years ago
nix 10/90 APAN ;)
ULTRASONIQ 5 years ago
Var det OB-APAN?
brainiiac 5 years ago