Percussion Axiom TV: Episode #53: "Why we teach.... at any level"

[M7sus4]

Honestly listenin. Don't listen't to his conversatition, but his shit as a marimba player is epic, so epic, so much epic, great, tell your students, epic

[M7sus4]

tom burritt? episode why we teach? episode what? 53? good job. keep youtubeing teaching. Cold. But, Baylor thanks, I'lm glad you came.. but anyways, forget PASASP i mean yueah, cool, but yeah 2 times, booth times, friday, 10 o clock. it's too late... shit. old videos.... but anyways, so ehhhwhemmm... keyboard percusssion pannnnnon, friday, um, updates, twitter, follow, sponatiious, twiitier, free stuff, free streetmusic, 30 miniture, long song shit, shorty's scan southwestern geeky shit helpful

[M7sus4]

I'm very glad derek that thomas love's the show, he's got some great talent, you could learn a lot from teaching education, only if your in the audience, listening to the best, you know how to key in and balance to the best, chamber is the best to listen to because chamber in college is not based on percussion, but this is a great place to find helpful percussion lessons, in Texas at high School, bet a 1, great, fantastic.. But to learn, um, make sure as your developing musicianship

[tburritt1971]

To those commenting: How many times have each of you played: Stravinsky's "Soldiers Tale", Bartok's "Sonata for two pianos...", Antiel's "Ballet Mechanique", Torke's "Adjustable Wrench", etc..? I'm guessing only one or two, or none. This is what I mean by "difficult". These are difficult to perform, support, and present, especially if you want to sell tickets. Conversely, 4 percussion Ensemble concerts at a University offer a better chance for students to learn to play small works. Thks for com.

[whereitruns]

if we take what you define as 'difficult' to mean works that are hard to 'perform, support, and present, especially if you want to sell tickets' are we to think that the work you do champion provides little if any challenge to the more dominate modes of concert presentation?

[whereitruns]

no response from PATV?  do you only encourage interactivity when people agree with you?

[whereitruns]

still no response from patv. what happened to the idea of a provocative discussion of the ideas raised on the show?

[tburritt1971]

Been having problems leaving comments for some reason. So, I made a video response on the home page.

Thanks.

[whereitruns]

"In, and out of our academic environment, it can be difficult to have the opportunity to play with non-percussionists."

???

this is almost as confusing as when you asserted that

"there isn't a lot of repertoire out there that has mixed instruments with percussion."

[whereitruns]

"chamber music for percussion is difficult because there isn't a lot of repertoire out there that has mixed instruments with percussion."

are you serious?

[hallucinatorium]

I was wondering the same thing.

[tburritt1971]

Thanks for the comment! I'm referring to chamber percussion music. There are many pieces for just 4-6 percussionists that can help train our chamber music chops. Make sense?

[whereitruns]

no, it doesn't make sense. what exactly are you trying to say?

[thesearchableable]

I am still confused.  In the video you say there isn't a lot of repertoire out there but whether you're talking about percussion music or mixed instrumentation chamber music ,there's a huge amount of repertoire from the last 100+ years for percussion. Virtually every major composer of the 20th century has written at least one (usually more) piece with a percussion part.

[tburritt1971]

Yes, there are lots of pieces for both mixed ensembles (perc. and other instruments) and percussion ensembles (just perc). In, and out of our academic environment, it can be difficult to have the opportunity to play with non-percussionists. That is why it is important, especially in the university environment, to play works with other percussionists so you are better prepared should you get the opportunity to play with non-percussionists. Better prepared to listen, communicate, etc.. Thanks!

[whereitruns]

"In, and out of our academic environment, it can be difficult to have the opportunity to play with non-percussionists."

???

this is almost as confusing as when you asserted that

"there isn't a lot of repertoire out there that has mixed instruments with percussion."

[tburritt1971]

You are right, there are many works out there, just little opportunities to play them and study them.

[whereitruns]

really? is this actually true?

[thesearchableable]

Shouldn't we, as teachers, assume that at least some of our students will become professional performers after they complete their studies, affording them many opportunities to play chamber music? At the very least, people who hold professor positions in percussion departments are often called on to play chamber music, either in faculty ensembles or other professional situations.

[tburritt1971]

We don't assume, that is what we are training them to do. With 4 Percussion Ensemble concerts a year, our students are asked to play mostly chamber percussion pieces, as opposed to large percussion orchestra pieces, so they can be prepared to play in the very situations you describe above. They also play with other musicians, but the degree requirements don't make them do this more than a few times. That is why we focus on performing 4-5 player pieces without conductor.

[whereitruns]

this still doesn't answer why you think that playing with non-percussionists outside of the academy is 'difficult'. i also find it confusing why you think dividing the musical world between 'percussionists' and 'non-percussionists' is a useful strategy.

[strikingthings]

It's difficult in that it seems that there aren't as many non-percussionist instrumentalists interested in doing chamber works outside of school. They are largely 20th century and so many instrumentalists prefer to play Brahms, Beethoven, etc. vs. more contemporary works. Look at the offerings of any regional symphony's chamber program. They tend to stick to more traditional pieces, string quartets, mixed quintets, etc.